and he can ensure stability on food market. we need to the blog. odessa, her son michel, i've scored less poor. it's but through the aggressive bullet dig so of politic through their aggressive for war or for russia. war was earn blocked the port slave towards her, blocked in ukraine, and then they've made all the steps in these directions towards fair. this troy meant, or the on group cultural sector and eurasia, which is why to stop the war and to ensure stability in this sector. is the base to prove ran sir, millions of people from hunger and from cow us. we've been talking about unblock king of ukraine ports by russia, so that the food can be supplied. this is very important for our ukraine,

and i would like to reiterate. it's important for the whole world and for you and that has been reported that the whole world has been represented by you and in this malignant difficult, unofficial. yet to day ukraine is an epicenter of unbearable heart. h and bane. i witnessed that very vividly to day at aunt cave, the says las loss of life, the massive destruction the unacceptable violations of human rights and the. busy laws of war, it is vital that the international criminal court and other un mechanisms conduct that work, so that there can be real accountability the position of united nations. this clears, as i said in moscow, rush is invasion of ukraine is a violation of it's that it's not only integrity and of the charter of united nations. and i'm here to falk was annoyed on all the un can expense

a board for the people of ukraine saving lives, reducing suff. well yeah, apologies about this. this was a pre recorded or interview a pre recorded press conference as were all the international channels getting the same pictures and then are the agencies were then gained to replay, the full interview, unedited the full press conference, unedited to all of the international channels, including those of us here at al jazeera, we were just hearing that the secretary general begin, his statement will oh, i think we can go back to it now. such a step back in again christ sides with so many brave ukrainian organizations. i salute the more than 1400 staff of the when the vast majority of room ukrainian

nationals, they are on the ground in 9 operational harps, uncertainty, locations many have been here from they weren't. and we have sent in additional person else is them to serve ukrainian people that engage in an enormously complicated mission and the difficult conditions these one of the fast, the scale up operations we have ever undertaken. and we are very much aware that not every single, perfect, whatever we can provide baines in comparison to the needs. and i, me of the plans that will bolster our efforts across the board. again, apologies are for this, this is sort of the stop start scenario. what should we face, sir, when we are dependent on agency or agency cameras, who are the sole distributors of such important press conferences. but let me just

explain. the press conference has been recorded in full. it's been an edited. it was to be broadcast to all of the international news agencies. it's got a few technical problems we think that we can bring in their james base, our senior diplomatic editor james, it's bit of a stop start scenario to that press camera that we got a jest, certainly of what a president zalinski wanted to get across to the un secretary general and he's made his position and the evidence very clear to him. yeah, 1st thing to tell you is there's a reason why it's recorded and then replayed. and that security reasons, they did not want to know that the russians to know exactly when these dignitaries were, where they were, which the you can sometimes get information from the backdrops. and they didn't want them to know exactly when it was taking place. so that's why the whole thing was recorded, they left the area or left the room, and then the, the, the conference was replayed at strong comments coming from president lensky and the

un secretary general. remember, president zalinski had scolded the you and 2nd general, the fort this trip unhappy that he'd gone to moscow. first, he said that order was wrong. he said he should have come to ukraine 1st to see the situation on the ground. and it's interesting that the secret generals itinerary has changed several times to what i been told he was going to do. and he certainly made a big point before he saw president zalinski of going outside keep to going to butcher and other places to see scenes of where there have been a war crimes allegedly carried out by russian forces. and in his comments, they're saying that there needs to be a full investigation into what he said. we're an unacceptable violations of international law by the international criminal court. and others were telling you, here at the un, we've had the prosecutor of the international criminal court in the last few hours, kareem con, saying that they and he's been to care of himself. and to this, those play those scenes as well. saying that he is now trying to make this the

fastest investigation of its tight war crimes investigation in history. he said the always working went work with something like this. and he wants to try and proceed with his prosecutions with his investigations as quickly as possible. so, so what can realistically be achieved, maybe from this visit, james, that you say long term we are looking at possibly, you know, a crimes against humanity type of investigation. and eventual trial. it seems paths that the secretary general is at the moment between a rock and a hard place as to try and make sure that his agency is seen as doing something positive. yeah, the sex general, the perceptions of this trip i think are important. but yes, the 2nd general going to the scene of these are of where the bees massacres allegedly took place. seeing presence lensky. yes, that's important that the world sees that, but he's certainly not the 1st are made this trip. we've seen the u. s. secretary

of state and defense secretary, we've seen are the british prime minister. we seen other world leaders do this. so that sector general is in some ways on the back foot. but he has a very difficult job because he is 2nd general of an organization where the central a body is the security council and where the permanent members of the security council had the veto effectively on any un action. and one of those permanent members is russia. they always talk about the rules based international order at the united nations. but the honest truth is the rules that they have to follow and say that the permanent members have a sort of get out of jail card. they can do what they want and they can veto anything that happens. and normally that's not a problem unless you have a situation as you have now. but what are those permanent members has invaded another country? the 2nd general certainly gone further than his predecessor bank. he moon 2014, he didn't want to say that it was a breach of the un charter. the secretary said it's a breach of the un charter. he says it's

a war. he says his invasion. but i think he's limited. and in what he does here into the humanitarian side, i think that's where the you and can make a difference. he gave the latest numbers. 1400 start in ukraine, or they have 9 hubs. 30 locations around ukraine. and they're trying to step up on the humanitarian side. they're setting up a new contact group with the un, with the russians, with the ukrainians to try to improve the humanitarian situation around the country . but perhaps more important and more urgent. they're doing special operation with regard to mary apple. they're trying to get you and staff into to deal with that urgent situation. james, thanks very much for the update. we're going across back to keith. now just this, that press conference, the questions that are being asked of our president and secretary general article is, was at the lawyer on him analytics of expressing your opinion that you are not happy there. general said 2 or 3 there you go. there of you and gutierrez will go to

russia 1st and then to ukraine to day after you have heard this meeting, i can you change your attitude, your opinion, your view, and do you see any practical help? cronum un, especially as regards to mary oriental who just recently and spoke to the a biggest or criminal over 21st century. they had over there, the biggest vision of planet earth is supporting. you've looked into his eyes, and now he, he told you all, this was something. and now you're here in ukraine and you've seen what he has done around key of and around ukraine. do you see any chance, any practical chances that the world can stop him, especially with he is a continuous threats to use the nuclear weapons. thank you so much. ah, douglas is up with dinah. the actual quarter up. thank you for your question. was sash josh? should me grained answer briefly?

i really think it's that he thought this would happen to days priority. we and i believe that the lead there is people, the estate years, that decision makers of the whole world specially this regards to human rights sir. free dumb, and right to life, they have to be in ukraine today. this is my personal opinion. that's what they believe in. and i'm grateful to general secretary ah, that he has come to our country to day ungrateful that we were discussing the mattress is regards to russian federation. and what we can do, what you land can do. so that really as of style is the blocked. so that's really light of the people they are, are saved today, the dedicated to lot of time to discard those mattress. an ideal believe. first of

all, like all of those, sir, relatives said, dear one of those who are blocked there is that the view succeed to receive the desired result and save the people. i have to say that term. what i said in moscow, what i said here, and what i say in new york is exactly the same power. you have heard my press conference with the minister lover of the speech was very similar to this one. you have eventually, or see the part that her, the russian television as given of the conversation between present 14 and myself. and you heard me saying to present fulton the same things. i said myself. so it is being coherent within the fence of the values of the well and the values of un

charter and one of the values of the way and un charter is that the territorial integrity of countries must be respected. these is fundamental from the point of view of international law, and i hope that as in everything else in life law will prevail. jacob las go, switzer? skip the leg companion. thank you. can't miss dependence lensky could you please say was, are actually the security guarantees you are asking from the russian federation for the humanitarian career out of mural. and mr. general secretary, could you please tell us a little bit more about the general principle. but mr. putting agreed on when you met him in moscow a few days ago, and what will the un do if the russian federation is violating these general principles? president agreed on. thank you very much. merit may i 1st?

yeah, please. madam, what do you want? we want the people to be rescued or the want me to so something that will be an obstacle to the thrust. at the present moment. i can only tell you, we are doing everything we can to make it happen. i am not going to enter into any comment that both end than mine. that's possibility. because my 1st and only priority is the people that suffer and the people that must be rescued. that's the exactly it can i does have exactly what you want is to me to say sings that would not facilitate the work we are doing at the present moment is to guarantee that that happens. i. i cannot admit that it will not happen if it will not happen, i will take the right decisions at the right moment and about

a taint time frame. you can say anything about the time frame. again, i am working with only one objective not to shine in the media. i am being very boring to the media on purpose because the only way to ensure the rescue of people is to be boring to the media because we have enough difficulties by themselves. all over new engine was spoke le, man. and he said, doors from of throttling. ah, it so they still remain guaranteed to litigate for me to perform either to ensure that the thousands, hundreds of thousands of people that they are deported forcibly taken kidnapped to the territory or persian federation. and earl lee mosley dean brush. as i said, that they have already received a 1000000 of people,

and we know that forcibly they deported 500000. so for me, the guarantee the main guarantees that all of those people are alive so that they are not enslaved, so that they are free to move and come back. i know what's the date that you need and so that they are taken back to the territory that is under control over the frame greener owners are putting a door opener on the 6th area or so. so ms. gonzales. she wouldn't sure that was spec. let him question you need your general secretary and you said the day that the security council of you and didn't know what to complete the function that they're expected to off eat with the with what's your you or what sort of proof warm is needed for you and so that this organization is effective to resolve conflicts and listen to repeat the past. so for a legal league of nations and to the president took him there is

a talk head board that we're close to both. so do refer and of course song that didn't take place today, but apparently is so ready being prepared for a so called down. lugens can denise people who fall play come next month's equivalent to day during the received some information as if mary, opal is already part of restore war. bless. so what sir, what do you think about all of this information that is being circulated? as i said, the un is not told me the security council the are and is also the general assembly . and the general assembly was clear in this regard. and the ran are all the men and women that are working in different parts of the world to support people that are victims of war, the victims of conflict. i have not the power to reform the significance. i have no illusions about the possibility to do it immediately, but i will do everything i can. so making the, when,

as effective as possible in situations like these to at least compensates for a failure that i cannot solve. and you can be sure of all total commitments to support you. plenty of people in this difficulty and to woah, permanent voice asking for the use of these war and the end of this war in respect for international law and in respectable. yup. direct vision, natural disaster, seldorf, a judge law roof random sir. they, there can be many of their, sam lindsay or it's only the beginning of this war if we look at the crimea matter . i so practically, and there is lots of brick units. ukraine will never recognize state and no one is the civilized world will ever recognize that though those fake referendums,

dora characters can award to be joint to, to, to russia are people sure that they can deal with them even their whole, like, i'm not real, but we need to talk about con, trade things. there are methods so many carry an impor it on said the blocking people there are economical math risk is regards to a food security, not only important for us, but for the whole world. there is many mattress if we want to complicate this for the whole europe for the whole law world then. and there is a way of continuing to play with all of this metrics of referendum said so on. bert at practically, we need to focus on or the other important mattress. thank you very much. everybody there the meeting. gov. the president admits zalinski are hosting the u. s. extra general antennae get harish is actually finishing all sale of course are they

spoke over a range of issues and took questions from the press. let's cross over to our diplomatic, added james bay's at the you and james, i think the one glaring comment was my feeling that i think the un secretary general was wanting to rebuke one journalist for trying to perhaps endanger the negotiations that are ongoing for the safety of those trying to get out of merrier . pol, he just wasn't going to be drawn on the specifics yet he seemed somewhat angry and annoyed by that question and saying, because the question was, what will you do if russia blocks this knox, this operation? and he said, what do you, what do you want this operations to succeed, or do you want me to speak out in a way that will actually stop it succeeding. so he is, i think, making the point that in this particular area quart diplomacy right now is what's

needed. and he needs to do things that are not going to infuriate russia if he needs the cooperation of russia for this, mary, or pull operation, which is worth telling you, is planned to be an operation with the consent of the ukrainians. and the russians involving the u. n and the international committee of the red cross, i can tell you the you and have brought in officials. not only those that are in ukraine, they bought in experts from other parts of the world. some of the most experienced people in the u. n. system. but they're not really giving us any details of the time frame for this operation to try and get them out of the steel works where most the civilians are and to take them to take them out of mary apple and set take them to safety. now it's also worth bearing in mind that these people, we understand in the still works are there along side fighters, ukrainian fighters. and there are some, certainly, some in the ukraine in public, even who would like those fighters to be brought out as well. and i think that's

the difficulty of negotiations. they're going to take place. and the russians, i think, will be very keen that the civilians, if they are allowed out, are only the ones allowed out and every one else is screened and checked. and this is going to be, i think, potentially the problem with this sort of operation. it does feel to me as we talk about all of this, very similar to some of the things, some of the things that happened in various stages during the syrian war. where of course, the syrian government was working hand in hand with the russian forces, who were their advisors and their air force. and there we saw a situation where cities came on the siege. there were people blocked and then the, the un i tried to negotiate access to them but, but it, it always what was never quite a great success any time that happened. and i think this the difficulty, the un face, certainly the secretary general is going to be judged on this trip. at the fact he came here a much later than other leaders. i don't think the perceptions of the trip are

going to be great. and certainly does a great deal of criticism where i am in new york, the un headquarters is in the u. s. and the u. s. media, the u. n. is greatly criticized for not doing enough in this conflict. so it will be on that humanitarian part of the situation that the secretary general should show results if he's able to show results. and that's certainly where he's focusing his attention. he is the secretary general who's part of an organization where russia has a leading role as a permanent member. and obviously if he was to and he's criticized, i think as far as he would be, i would say he is criticized as far as he would say. as much as he can russia calling this an invasion, calling this out a war. but i think he feels he can't go any further because potentially, if he would kick and he can't do this anyway, if he were to kick rush out of the un or could, could kick it out the security council, then protected, potentially, that un would spend to potentially, china might leave and it's worse or money just on the humanitarian would collapse,

just like the league of nations did before world war 2. james, thanks so much for the update goes, we'll come back to her as things develop as cars over to our correspond, audibility these in keys and hotter. and i believe you have a interviewed on this at the general and we'll, we'll see that into shortly. i just want to get your initial impressions all read and only via a camera lens. well, i have to tell you that he probably also just of black smoke over the capitol. we don't have any much more detail than that. i cannot tell you what has been targeted, but what i can say is that keith has been vacant for the past few exam than been any air strikes in the area or in the city or outside of the city for quite a while now. and this comes just under day, and the secretary general is here. meeting with air presidents, viola, demure de lensky. ah,

the meeting wrapped up about an hour ago. and so certainly the secretary now so for himself he went this morning he so did of as 30 lea a at quite a serious escalation. i would say because there was a feeling really that it, that keith at the moment would be as bird, even though the government has been st warning. people all along do not relax. do not think it's all over. we can behave at any time, and that's exactly what happened in terms of security or scenario where you are. we keep hearing over a course of several days. it as a keep is more relaxed, it's becoming more open. people are moving around. and then of course, you know, you, as you say, you just have one explosion in an unknown area with well, i think, i mean if you go around a capital, yes, it was more relaxed over the past days, some cafes had opened,

very few shops had open again, but by and large, most of the people who live in give, haven't returned yet. and actually the mayor, the president, everybody has been warning that it is too soon to think that the capital is now safe. now, do you had these 2 large explosions? i'm sure we'll be able to give you a bit more details in the next hour or so at the moment. all we can hear is basically the sirens of the fire workers. i suppose the police are they probably on site checking what had happened, but i think this such a loud explosion that really shook. oh, where we were sitting in the we had no doubt when we heard it at that was an s tray . that certainly i think you'd have many people around here, maybe those who have, who have already returned a wondering what is happening now. it has been in targeting cities, especially on this side of the country in the west of the country has been going on

for nearly on a daily basis. you had st airstrikes in vinny. they had air strikes. olivia, you had air strikes a bit around the city in odessa, around the country. but the capitol, it's been a few weeks that nothing was happening. and this is just as talk reminder now. is there another message? is it by quince it is that is happening just under day that to both the bulgarian prime minister or was here. we assisted to his press conference, he was standing next to president zalinski. he was offering a lot of support, chew, discount tree. he offered also to have the ukrainian drain, which is so important for the countries income a trans is through bulgaria to then be dispatched to the world not to disrupt food, so sure to if food supply around the blind and then the very the visit of the secretary general, is this a coincidence? i think this is something you authorities here would be looking into

a question we journalists will try to find an answer to. but certainly many people here in cave now wondering what i've done to me that with the latest, thanks very much. well, happy for that prescott recent any guitar ish as how to said spencer as de touring part of the war ravaged countries on the capital. and so for himself, what he calls evil and an absurdity in the 21st century devens chiefs on his 1st visit to ukraine since usher invaded $63.00 days ago. and a shapell reports, a tour of the villages and towns north of keefe, where russia is accused of committing war crimes starting and borrowed yankee, where you went, secretary general antonio quoterush saw for himself the scale of devastation. there is no way a water can be acceptable in the 21st century. look at bro danco. like so many towns was occupied by russian forces and nearly flattened by their onslaught.

ukrainian say mass graves, there are proof that russian forces are committing atrocities. then to boucher were bodies of civilians were found with hands tied behind their backs. earlier this month when you crane recaptured it from russian forces garish. now, asking russia to help find those responsible, i fully support the federal google mon, that i a view to the russian federation to accept to corporate with international criminal court. and to charge residential towers in urban for there's been extensive damage. innocent civilian living in this building they were paying the highest price for a war for which they are not going to be good. mental ukrainian officials were frustrated. he visited russian president vladimir putin in moscow before keith zalinski called it ambiguous to see the aggressor before the victims. the un secretary general has been unable to get the sides to see eye to eye. but once to

begin the negotiation.