okay, what matter do you know it was to be radical? how can the thing that's radical with part one and the highway and denise is not about wanting to sell, you know about the message studio b and split dates on alex's era. ah. hello there, i'm miss darcy at hand. oh, how? at the top stories here on al jazeera ukraine's president says about a 100 civilians have been freed from a besieged steel works plant and mary paul, elderly women and mothers with small children were seen being helped out of the rubble of the plant. and then voiding buses and evacuation is being led by the u. n . and the red cross in coordination with both ukranian and russian forces. alexia bryan ports flanked by you in officials and russian troops, basses carrying a vacuum,

ease from your mother. your pulse as of style steel plant, arrived in the village, outside the sissy. more than 70 buses were made available, but not many people were brought out to about 11 people got out with us. we went from one side of the plant and the others went through it all. just imagine at their own risk with the little children under shelling about exit point. they were told no, we will not let you out. russians are there, they will execute you. we can't risk your lives like that. and so they went back, there were those who went back, those who managed to escape. we just don't know how long trapped beneath the steel works said to be up to a 1000 civilians and 2000 ukrainian fighters. the industrial complex is the last bastion of ukrainian territory in the port sissy, surrounded by russian forces. satellite images show how much of it now lies in ruins. i got it on saturday. ukrainian president for laudermill zalinski hosted us

. how speaker nancy pelosi in cave. in a major show of support, she's the highest ranking american leader to visit ukraine since the start of the war. commitment neither one until i die. when that will be, remains far from certain rush has been intensifying its operation in the east and south with relentless rocket hillary and mortar attacks. these people are escaping the conflict zone and a new front line near the town of the man. they should have been enjoying a gentle retirement. instead they contemplating a very different future with the liberators. the russians have carmen, have freezers from was our lives. and now i am an elderly person and i have to run away from home. this war has uprooted, more than 12000000 people in the past 2 months, longer below ground,

and matter you poll, hundreds more awaiting for their chance to escape alexia brian, else's era. while, meanwhile, russia is intensifying attacks aimed at seizing more territory in east and ukraine . the town of w around 50 kilometers from the frontline was targeted on saturday. 7 people were injured when a residential building was struck. and now ukraine is suffering fuel shortages after russia damaged its infrastructure and brocaded its ports long hughes. the vehicles, as you can see, have formed outside petrol stations. most are limiting drivers now to 10 leases of fuel at a time. while some kids have closed and muslims around the world are celebrating the 1st day of eat outfitter. mocking the end of the holy month of ramadan. 200000 palestinians attended prayers at the alex and must compound tension as been high in recent weeks. following israeli incursions inside the mos on worship. as in riyadh, have packed mosques there to before morning prayers. this is the 1st day for

muslims without the obligation for daytime fasting observed during ramadan chin. his years president says he is forming a new committee task with drawing up a draft constitution. kai is saying, says the group called debate a roadmap for the future, for what he calls a new republic said, initiated a political crisis. 9 months ago after sacking the government and taking emergency powers a move, his opponents have labeled a cou. police in china have arrested 9 people following the collapse of a building on friday, including the owner, rescue cruise continue to search for survivors in the ruins of that residential building. and changsha. 7 people have been pulled from the rubble of the 8 story building and who none province. another 39 remain missing. while those are the headlines, they'll be much more news for you here on al jazeera after the bottom line. stay with us. ah,

i am steve clements and i have a question. how did that joe biden presidency go from climate emergency to burn baby burn. let's get to the bottom line. ah. climate action was a major pillar present, joe biden's election campaign back in 2020. he promised big changes to confront the threat to our planet that many scientists have been warning about, especially to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2030 or else basic stream heat drought in violent weather bite and called climate change. an existential threat. biden's moves were in sharp contrast, the former president, donald trump, who mocked climate change, and he pulled america out of the paris climate agreement and reverse the country's fight against global warming. but this year, joe biden was hit by a tri factor of setbacks that it put the brakes on his ambitions. he wasn't able to get most of his climate legislation passed and congress inflation became rapid,

especially the rising price of gas, which makes him even more popular at the moment. and war broke out in europe. now he's singing a different tune. he's released oil from the nation strategic reserves, and he's encouraged more drilling in the hopes of lowering gas prices. these days, the white house issuing oil and gas permits at a faster pace than former president donald trump did so as biden lived up to the promises he made back when the world was normal. or at least kind a sort of normal 2 years ago. and if a climate emergency can be shoved to the back seat, does that mean it's not as a life and death? as some folks made it out to be. to day we're talking with jamal rod, the co founder and executive director for evergreen action and advocacy group pushing for progressive national climate policies. and john palmer here spokesman for the sunrise movement, a political action organization that advocates for the green new deal and backs politicians who are pro renewable energy and anti big oil. let me just start out with huge. i'm all you were recently up in seattle. you live in seattle, the president was there on earth day and he and he shared this comment about about

the next generation if you will this listen, president biden. you know, every time i get billed down, i don't know about my colleagues. i to expect the same, i just turn on television or take a look at all the young people. this young generation is not going to put up with a modest though there is, i mean, there, they are really, really energized jamal. you know, you're, you're one of our, every, both of you are a younger generation. i guess i would ask you in response to president, you know, obviously we're asking this question about what the state of president biden's climate policies are amidst a lot of crises. and as a young person that he was speaking to, are you willing to take it? well, i'm not that young but allow it. um, i yeah, i was at the address in seattle on friday. he touted administrations progress on his historic climate commitments through executive action. and the good pieces of the bipartisan infrastructure law. and while it's true that the president has made

some progress already, he won't be able to make good on the pledges he's promoting until he delivers the center piece of his climate plan. a legislative package of investments that could supercharge our transition to a healthy acquittal and secure clean energy economy. he did say that his pen was ready and congress should act. and the next 5 weeks between now and memorial day, we have one last shot to deliver those investments. and that's going to be the real key test here. well, john paul, you are in the generation that president biden was speaking about in to and i was going to give, you know, jamal an opportunity be in that generation too. but i guess the quick key question i have as a young person, and i know a bit about your background, you've been engaged in this conversation, you've engaged in, you know, essentially antagonizing those that did not have the frame on the seriousness of climate. are you pleased with the steps of buying administration taking? are you part and by what president biden set on earth day? do you think there are a lot of gaps that we ought to be putting a, you know,

a lot more effort into than we are right now? you know, president biden well knows, and what he said on his statement that day that young people are indeed energized. and he knew that as a candidate himself, he brought us on board a unity task for us to completely revamp his climate policy, which was not up to par after. we got involved in redesigning his climate policy, the number shot up amongst young people. and we know that young people came out in record numbers smashing, turn out expectations, and 2020. i missed a pandemic to deliver a bold mandate for the president and the rest of his party for systemic action on climate. now, like you mentioned at the beginning of the administration way back in january, we saw some exciting steps be taken. we saw the rejoining of the us, the peers climate agreement. we saw, you know, plans stopping drilling in the arctic refuge. but as jamal said, once we began getting into the territory of

a legislative fight in congress that would have actually secured historic investments that we need when it comes to climate. it was fumbled a bit. and now as we stand in the midst of an emergency, we're looking to president biden to make those choices to actually deliver on the promises that he campaigned on that we orchestrated in order to not only meet the moment for young people like myself who are uncertain about our futures, but also you know, to secure the safety and dignity dignity of people across this country because this crisis is an incredibly great threat. is climate a hard national security issue, an existential threat along the lines that president biden talked about during the campaign? or is it something you do casually, you do it when you can and you let you know envoy john carry out there either cause shoal or shame or seduce players to come along, which i sort of feel like that's what you know secretary carries, trying to do right now, you know, this crisis is very real and it's, it's very hard as well. i grew up in miami,

a place that's increasingly ravaged by her attains rising sea levels and so on. i'm sure jamal can attest to the prevalence of fires in the pacific northwest in historic heat waves over the last summer. this is having real effects on people and impacts on our livelihoods. now, does that mean that we should let these oil prices continue to skyrocket and half working people feel that pain in order for us to get anything done? absolutely not any form of climate policy. that's actually smart. the framework that we have given to joe biden is a form of climate policy that centers worth people at or from alongside climate investment. right. that's gonna get people on to the streets. that's what's going to get people mobilized. that's what's going to get politicians, hearkening messages that will actually win and jamal. i would love to get your sense of how you amp up the sense that this is a hard issue when you spoke about. i felt the tension in you, but i have to say just because i'm a realist, you know, i don't know if the, you know, to, to, to whatever, to we have been feeling violent,

whether the impacts of tornadoes, mudslides fires, whether that's felt broadly enough and whether people are connecting it to climate . what would you put on the table on how we change this from being a casual, if we can issue to do you know, as philanthropy, as far as coming to work every day and say, wow, we have to work on this immediately and urgently? well, not only is it is drawn right because climate change is no longer a chart or a graph are happening in some far off future. it's the smoke that's going to be choking our lungs this summer in the pacific northwest. it's the odds rising sea levels in miami where john is it's, but beyond that, there are intertwining crises right now that are directly at fault of our dependence on fossil fuels. it's the crisis in ukraine. ah, vladimir putin as the fossil fuel fascist. that has been enabled it by his wealth, by selling fossil fuels to, to create a mass in ukraine and enter, engage not conflict. we're seeing rising fossil fuel prices,

that's the main driver of inflation open. the majority driver of inflation is gas prices and fossil fuel prices. and there's a solution to both those problems. a conversion, a 100 percent clean. electra energy and 100 percent clean electricity look present by and made some major important commitments during his campaign. ah ha, to resend clean electricity by 2035. cutting overall climate pollution by 50 percent by 2030 directing 40 percent of the benefits of climate spending to disadvantaged committees passing major climate investments in congress is here is essentially meeting all 3 these commitments and we can't give up on there. there is still a key moment here that we can get this done with lesson to president biden for a moment and what he was laying down in a, in a state of the union address, which, by the way, i want to take there to like sound bites about climate and the presence of the unit . they're both quite good. we're gonna play one right now, but we're comparing that to many of the other crises who's talking about climate

kind of got short shrift in the presence dangerous. but let's listen to the present . let provide investment tax credits to whether your home and your business to be energy efficient and get a tax credit for it. double america's clean energy production in solar wind is so much more lower the price of electric vehicles saving another $80.00 a month that you're not going to have to pay at the pump. jamal in response to, to president biden's comments and the state, you know, just trying to wrap this up. the thing that came to my mind is, what are the od bedfellow moments to try to get to the vision he laid out? you know, when you kind of look at the reality, those that have the big assets in oil and energy are the fossil companies. they argue that they're the ones making the biggest bats and the biggest, invent investments in renewables. where are you in an action plan that's real and tangible and has traction in working with other incumbent energy players to get the

vision that the president laid out? or do you think it's folly to work with these? well companies the oil companies are not, are friends and won't be a part of the solution to the climate crisis. i their profits, i motives suggest. otherwise i, i often are, can i call ada the 3 card monte of climate policy? no, we support the other climate policy that's not being discuss currently law. i think that we need to pass these clean energy tax credits is not only because they're going to cost lower the costs of renewables like wind and solar. but it will strengthen the power of the renewable energy industry, which we need to do in order to achieve further goals in, in our efforts to defeat the climate crisis law. i thought that the, the stay the union was important because president by and introduce the idea that clean energy investments and reconciliation would save american families an average of $500.00 per year on their energy bills. that clean energy is

a way to tackle inflation. i thought that was an important message to introduce to the american public. you know, thank you for that. i would love you at your response that as well john paul, in, in, in whether or not it is, you know, i think that you have played a very important role in being a kind of thorn in the side if you will, to lot of your counties but do you see any progress on their side in moving, you know, in some of the direction want to go, is that come through regulation, oversight, or do or do you think it's doable without them that it has to be a 0 sum game with the fossil fuel companies, you know, with americans paying um, incredible high gas prices. in the midst of incredibly precarious economic times. it has just shown us the playbook of the fossil fuel industry that they do not care about the well being of, you know, regular people. and so to have them in,

on procuring the solutions that will overall guarantee the safety of the american people and pretty much the rest of the world when it comes to actually entertaining climate solutions at their speed, scope and scale. i can't see how their profit motives, like jamal said, would be acting in a well manner in this, in this shape. you know, in response to the state of the union address, one of the biggest crises that the president spoke of then was what was going on in ukraine with russia's invasion. and this is yet another site of what we, what we see the fossil fuel industry doing. they reveal their playbook once again. they do not fear and enabling or granting profits for autocrats and authoritarians a law around the world as long as they can can secure their investments. and frankly, these types of actors are not the ones we need when we're dealing with

a solution. and we're trying to come up with a solution to an existential threat, like the climate crisis. that's pretty much where i lie on that. and that's why the president should be taking decisive action right now to give leverage and push forward solutions that the people of this country and that people around the world have been advocating for for decades. well i, i, you know, i listen to you and i actually am motivated on this topic because i feel climate change is, is a major existential threat. and i been disappointed to be candid that all of the players in it have it somehow achieve making this a harder full time ambition of the policy established that it is, it that we approach it to casually, that said, i'm worried about the math. i'm worried about the math, you know, of global warming. i'm worried about the math of likely outcome or potential outcome in the next a midterm election in the united states and, and what that might say, and i'm worried, but of the math here, where the latest report from the un intergovernmental panel on climate change says

that we've there fewer than 3 years to, to peek emissions and, and to rapidly de carbonized us before you lock in, things have become very, very hard to reverse. and so when i look at that, and i listened to both of you, this is why perhaps i more amenable the odd bedfellow. alliances in both of you. i worry that the urgency of the moment ah, isn't being felt in what i'm hearing from scientists, or the very short time span. i mean, so i'd love to hear from you a jamal. how do we, how do we deal with the realities of that math? which, particularly the political math i feel yearned see at the moment. yeah, i believe it may as a make or break months in the u. s. senate, on whether we strike a deal or not to avert the worst impacts of climate crises. we are facing a timelines of both ecological scale and in the political legislative calendar where we know that many bills die in the heat of summer in the u. s. senate. we are

not. we don't have a lot of time. a year ago, last week. the president committed the united states to cutting greenhouse gas pollution by over 50 percent by 2030. that is a very bold goal. that was america's pledge to the international community, under the pears or even after 4 years of backsliding. under present, donald trump projections show that the country will need the full reconciliation climate package. we need the clean energy tax credit. we need a civilian climate court. we need a green bank. we need a major investment to a lower carbon emissions and buildings and. and in transportation and failing to pass the reconciliation bill would severely undermine our promised allies broad and with further art american international credibility on climate change. so i believe that there is not 10 republican votes for bold policy. they will actually stand this crisis and get us on the pathway to meeting our international commitments or president buying the campaign commitments. we need to move forward

with a reconciliation bill. we need president biden and leader shimmers direct engagement and leadership over the next weeks. with senator mansion to get over the finish line. john paul, what are your thoughts on the math of this? and let me add that, you know, some other complexities you know, do we need to double down on another taboo subject? you know, of nuclear, you know, which, which is friendly on climate unfriendly, in other arenas do, you know, given the seriousness of this challenge, do we need to get out of some of the tracks we have to try to fix these, the mathematics challenge, given what the intergovernmental report, just shared with us, you know, the, the fact of the matter is that this is a, an urgent issue. and it is an issue that you know, had to be tackled yesterday and frankly, is blaring in our faith. this is today and it's not like we haven't moved on quick times, bills in this country before. what we saw in the midst of world war 2 was an economic

mobilization that was able to fight the threat of fascism in a world war. and at the same time mobilized the entire american economy, it's manufacturing sector, it service sector. and so want to be able to meet the moment and meet the crisis at its speed, scope and scale. what we need right now is a response that matches that mobilization. we need to treat this crisis as the warlike crisis that it is. and frankly, there's a war going on to. and so when we talk about math, we're talking like jim all said, not only about legislative, an electoral cycles which are important because those are opportunities to secure what we need. but we're also talking about the repercussions that my generation will face beyond these 2 and 4 year cycles for the rest of our lives. and so, you know, when we, when we talk about the urgent things that can be done, the sort of energy policies that can be pursued, the answers are there. and they've been there for a while. we merely can't give up,

is power to the same folks who have been around for decades and decades writing policies, while at the same time being bank rolled by a few fossil fuel corporations. that's really the only bipartisan thing about this, you know, bill that's being echoed right now by senator joe mansion. so what we do need is to get on track and get back to that reconciliation bill centers reliable renewable and clean energy in the united states. john paul, just just real quick. just the younger generation, get it or are they going to vote democrat in the mid term election and, you know, surprise, us all and you know, kind of turn things around because all of the prognostic theatres, you know, see a lot of doom coming for the by new ministration, you know, you know, i objective in this, but i'm just guessing where you think the younger generation is right now. the younger voting generation. whether they're animated by this enough to actually have a footprint in the next election along the lines you're talking about. i'll tell

you what we get and what we don't get. what we get is that throughout every major historical milestone in this country, young people and workers have been at the forefront leading social movements that have turned the tide to make massive change. and that's the value that young people hold right now. and we are desperately yearning for a world that is safe and equitable and doesn't just repeat the same crises that we've grown up in financially, environmentally and so on. what we don't get is how we can get to and for 2 year and 4 year promises that are never met. i think right now what we really have to hold on to is the fact that young people, in fact, did break record numbers when they came out to vote in 2020. and they did that as they felt that there was a president and a party who was speaking to them. and now, 2 years later, after delivering a democratic trifecta, you know,

young people aren't really feeling the results and the risk that not only the president but the rest of his party. and frankly, this country runs is taking young people for granted. and just expecting them to show up every time. now, i won't say that young people won't show up to vote in november for the mid terms, but in order to actually get younger people energized to do so, we're going to need some action and from president biden. right, you know, that means like jamal said, really pushing through, right and delivering on the fact that young people voted for him, not jo, manage and to pursue reconciliation, but also take massive executive actions like the widening you of the defense production act, to kickstart clean energy and also the canceling of student debt. i think we're just real quick jamal, because we're right the on the show, i want to ask, you know, the issue and ask your thoughts on that in this other as we, as we close here. but secretary, carrie, you know, our climate on envoy is around basically anticipating and char mail, shake egypt,

the cop $27.00. they're trying to get nations to stand by commitments they've already made because there's a sense of erosion and a lack of commitment. even worrying whether the united states under the, by the ministration itself maintains as commitment. i just want to get it, you know, a quick answer from you. what would be the biggest things on the u. s. portfolio to make sure we do meet the commitments of the united states is made previously at the glasgow summit. and, and what are the things you're putting on the table to advise these, these, these policies, ours in this, on, on how to achieve real resulting in ensure our mail shake. yeah. so we have no credibility of telling other countries to uphold their commitments. if we can of old ours and let me tell you, cause conferences are littered with pass failed american commitments to the international community. so. ready i, i believe that we must achieve our international commands before we tell others to do anything. 11 thing i want, john was saying that i thought was really important. the top issue of voters, young voters that did not vote in 2016 but did not. but did vote in 2020 was

climate since january of 2021 by and support a strong 19 points among voters aged 18, a 34. that's exactly when the climate progressions and bill back better crumbled. and so i do think that we need to show that the, the youth, and frankly, the american people that we can take on the big challenges our nation and our planet faces. and so far were that we haven't done so. i think that is it is key for us to achieve a 100 percent clean electricity. by 2035, there was the central plank of biden's climate platform. is the chief. it is key to achieving the steep carbon pollution cuts we need to meet our international climate goals. the good news is the reconciliation. bell helps us get there by including clean energy tax credit, which would drive down the cost of when in solar that would allow more renewables to get on the grade as quickly as possible. we need to write a, it got use the power in the clean air it. we need

a passed these clean energy tax credits, and we need to show the international community that we're serious about. this will . thank you. we'll have to leave it there. fascinating discussion. climate activists, jamal rod from evergreen action and john palmer here from the sunrise movement. thanks so much for sharing your candid thoughts with us today. thank you so much. thank you. so what's the bottom line? climate action has turned into the province of rich nations that have the resources and can afford to be worried about future generations. and the planets health they're going to inherit. most of the world is not thinking unfortunately about melting glaciers, entrap carbon. but like us climate envoy, john kerry says all of it's happening, whether the folks believe it or not, whether is crisis in ukraine or not, where the price of fuel is up or down. the question is how to find strong middle ground options and alliances between climate activists and maybe the fossil fuel industry between major carbon burning economies, and those who become obsessed with renewables. when both sides of the table start working with players, they don't like that will know that everyone recognizes the threat to be really

existential. not one that we can shrug off until more so called urgent priorities are dealt with. and that's the bottom line. ah and the vietnam war, the u. s. army used to heidi talks to cub decide, with catastrophic consequences. agent orange was the most destructive instruments for chemical warfare. a decade later, the same happened in the us state of oregon. you helicopters flying over the ridge, bringing something they didn't even see the kids foot 2 women are still fighting for justice against some of the most powerful forces in the world. the people versus agent orange on out, is there a, a

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