Skip to main content

tv   The Stream  Al Jazeera  May 3, 2022 11:30am-12:00pm AST

11:30 am
parts at the rocket is made out of so they want to try to minimize the exposure to salt water as much as possible. which is why this mid air catch was invented, you know, so that they would avoid the booster falling into the ocean at all. and instead they would, i'm sort of drop it onto the deck of the ship. if you look at space acts, which is the only other company right now that is we're using rockets the. 6 first stage accounts for probably about 60 percent of the cost of the rocket. so that's a significant savings when you're talking millions of dollars. ah, hello again, i'm fully back table with the headlines on al jazeera protests have been held outside the u. s. supreme court, after leak, suggesting justices could strike down a key bullying on abortion rights has been considering the judgement known as roe v
11:31 am
wade that legalize a procedure across the country. sharma sawandi is a member of seattle city council. she says pro abortion activist need to get out and protest. w wade, it's so was one in the 1st place to mass grouped, us working, be berlin. in fact, the supreme court rend ruby reed was one in 973 was also majority republican in thought 5 of the 7 justices who would say abortion rights about i'm well republican and yet women and working people that i wanted because it was the serious pressure of mass movement during a dying when we had be under war. good, right? environmental and civil rights movement. it's a reminder of what needs to be done today. so we need mass for dust in hundreds of cities across the nation to defend really weight in ukraine, attempts to free more people from the city of maria pole have been delayed. russian forces are reported to have resumed, shunning at the as of south seaward. shortly after the evacuation of around $200.00
11:32 am
civilians on sundays, the use energy commissioner has rejected the kremlin demands for gas payments to be made in rouble, despite threats of supplies being disrupted. gary simpson says, european companies should consider other payments agreement with france and military government is accusing the former colonial power of violin to his national sovereignty, including its aerospace relations between the 2 have been deteriorating since the gen to cease power in 2025 fighters in the u. s. are trying to slow a blaze affecting several southwestern states. hot dry winds, a fueling flames across arizona and nevada, and new mexico. thousands of people have left their homes across the region. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. i will be back with more news after the stream stay with us. how and why did it become so obsessed? with this law, we were giving them a tool to hold the corrupt individuals in human rights abusers accountable. they're
11:33 am
gonna rip this deal apart if they take the white house, the point 25. what is the world hearing what we're talking about by american today? your weekly take on us politics and society. that's the bottom line with i am at 7 dean and you're in the stream today, mongolia, a protest that began in the city center of the capitol along the tar, has now mostly moved online and has become known as the do. your job movement will talk to mongolians, to better understand what exactly the youth are demanding. and why i 30 years after the fall of communism, mongolia has experienced a series of protest movements around issues ranging from air, pollution voting, mining and the economy. most notably and recently protests against the miss treatment of coven 19 patients,
11:34 am
which eventually led to the shock resignation of the prime minister. mongolia is a landlocked country in east asia, bordered by russia to the north and china, to the south with a population of just over 3000000. it's also one of the world's most sparsely populated nations. in early april young mongolians gathered in silk, but tar square for 2 days of peaceful demonstrations, they demanded changes to the economy, taxation more jobs, and a plan to reduce high rates of inflation. while the protests ended a few weeks ago, the do your job movement still lives on line. the global pandemic has also devastated mongolia in 2020 and closed its borders shut down businesses and banned all international travel. as a result, the economy suffered it's worse decline since the 19 ninety's, and more than a quarter of a 1000000 people fell into poverty. and you add to that the recent russian invasion
11:35 am
of ukraine and inflation, food shortages and fuel prices are all skyrocketing. now. that's because mongolia is almost entirely dependent on neighboring russia for its energy. that's a lot to discuss today, and i'm very pleased to be joined by jar czar to hand the greater central asia editor at global voice is also on on to more targa. i'm a journalist in alon better and who'll on duke. there is a journalist and host of the media podcast. and for those of you joining us on youtube live, put your comments in the questions and the youtube chat. and we'll bring those to our guests on michelle on and i want to start with you with the basics you were there in the square. you were covering the story a few weeks ago when the youth really gathered their physically, what were they actually demanding? and since then has anything changed? so have me on the show. first of all,
11:36 am
the youth were basically the man and you said it, they want to live in mobile and they wanted to see a better future in magnolia. and most as, as you seen, all of those banners and slogans. banners saying, i want to live, i want to live. i want to live in my country. i want to dream of living in my own country. that is basically the, the central message of, of this protest that the youth, the man that, that the, that their lives are way too hard. and there's just no prospects for the future to live in mongolia basically. yeah. and, you know, we're looking at some of those images that you took right now. as you're talking ins are, you are nodding as we heard from on. and do you agree? i mean, this felt like it was a moment that it was significant. but, but what is new about this or is anything new about this
11:37 am
thank you. so tell me who. busy the most important thing is that when gold has a culture of protest, political process and the things where is the very prominent, the most important sport. because of the parliament and the see to the president and prime minister, they're located in the same building. so it's very convenient place, place to protest. and as you also mentioned last year, the been the partis, which basically led to the resignation of the prime minister. he is the president now, so he knows well how the port is important. the different thing this time was that the youth was traditionally not very active in, in political life. the voting turned out is very low compared to the leo at any age groups. and usually also, traditionally they thought again,
11:38 am
something specific look sample covered treatment and so on. and often there are political groups of parties behind them. this time it turned out to be that the youth wednesday on their, on the list active politically active group. they didn't have any political packing organisation behind them. and they had basically brought the list of demands that you could also see from, from the posters and what they have. there are so many topics, right, right. and most of them it, and we'll get to the very different demands. and the many demands that they have, but before we do that, hold on, i thought you nodding as our 1st to get, we're speaking and explaining to us what was going on. why do you think the youth sort of took to the streets the time and do you think that there's hope that some of their demands might be met?
11:39 am
well, i think the contest was about the any call option. it isn't the, you know, that given to the young people in limbo was not just about like inflation related to the club at 910 situation. it was, it was about also about like so equally. beta monday will opportunity to study or like for each occasion. and social insurance policies and everything. so i would say that and also their new thing for me was that, you know, like you, what does the patient for the election was really long. it has been but they are on the square and demanding what they need was like really new because even though they are participation for the election as well, you're in gauge mentor. like like a participation in the society. yeah. so yeah, yeah, no, i appreciate you bringing up that point. we actually have
11:40 am
a video comment that was sent to us from the again, someone who works for an independent research institute and mongolia about this very issue. you know how the youth have struggled historically to kind of have a real impact on decision making. i think nodding on and we'll come to you at the back of this. historically the young people in mongolia has been able to sessions clear example is that the democrats resolution itself also on people. but today, young people have very limited opportunities to those decisions in our risk and all 3 s the use us why more than 70 percent said they like financial resources. they like political experiences as more importantly, they like support from the society, 100 political parties and even from their own families, they feel they are not respected and they are not taken seriously. but the society, yes. the youth, the least, the highest age cook and on goal, in terms of political,
11:41 am
economic, social environment, all aspect. so whether the recent economic use process will lead to any change. i think they will incentivize the governments other younger generation and especially the political parties to has more user friendly gender so on and you, it's been activated and engaged. but what's going to come of this? what do you make of that comment? yes, i agree with the comment for hartley and i would like to add on that when i was there at the square, there was a lot of elderly or people who are older. dave, they told me that this is what they're chosen, basically that you live what you saw before the roof, which is so and they should have been. and one or older lady told me that they should have voted for the, for the on right now. now they're living with the consequences, but i would like to add that goal in youth again are not real represented.
11:42 am
and i think in 2016 to duke university did a study on, on people's preferences on voting. and in that many people don't vote on the specific stuff economics like they don't vote on policies and they vote on identity our, our current politicians are current parties do not represent any kind of identities of the go in youth. they have to basically have separated themselves from, from the, from the younger groups that are struggling based. right, right. and i think that separation is part of this, right? i mean, it's not uncommon when you see the sort of popular uprisings in any country who land. we often see people wanting to overthrow the government or to remove people
11:43 am
from power. this is really about having the government be held accountable to do their jobs. and in terms of holding the government accountable, we've also seen calls recently since the protest told the police accountable for police brutality. and from allegations that have been coming out when these videos have been surfacing of police on, on that night in the middle of the night around 4 am, you know, attacking, beating some of the protesters as you can see in this footage. hulahan, you know, we, we, we, we often see a disconnect between generations and in any country, right? in terms of the demands that they want for a better future in society. but i'm curious, even though this is being led by the youth. how, how can this actually materialize into change for all citizens in mongolia? are you optimistic that this will grow as a movement and the change will happen?
11:44 am
well, i'm not really sure. i was going to say that yes, did not sound very convincing. yeah. one thing that i would like to add on the comment was like, i've seen quite a few posts on social media that young people are demanding. you know something, but you need to go in the sense. but, you know, we have like 3 political parties which are really active and one is quite small. and you know, majority of the parliament is actually the one party. and you know, when there is election, it's young people say that there is no choice, you know, so all we can do is just reminding you know, do your job better. and the also comment was really right. you know, young people are not taken really seriously. those political parties think that
11:45 am
young people, like number of the young people is just the number of the low to group that will test actually in a number of young people. they are actually moving the countries so they need to be taken seriously. yeah. and you know, when we talk about things that need to be taken seriously, and the reason they need to be taken seriously, we have a comment in our youtube, a live chat box here from yoseph alto. right? he's saying the country is going to be depleted of young people. there will be a brain drain, essentially, if they don't listen to their demands. now switching gears to kind of, whether or not this is going to have a real impact, or we have a video comment from someone named man ly, who has a kind of commenting on, on their lack of faith in any real lasting impact from these very, very many demands, let's take a listen. mongolian young people just like everywhere else to want to have a better life stable income, leaving wages into wants to leave in generally,
11:46 am
society. but this needs and demands are quite abstract and in concrete, the extraction of denise and lack of consensus was quite evident during the progress where, for example, someone called for an increase in wages and other social benefits a while others would call for complete disappearance of the state in dealing with people who dislike the so called sound demands as it turned into 15 demands was deliberate by someone who was associated with you thing of the ruling party and india and the 15 to mass. so look, a lot like a general sense of the current government. so in my opinion, i don't think this protests will have any significant impact on actual policy changes, only positive, positive optical. my see is that it as activated youth as a social and political group and hopefully to continue to fight in the future.
11:47 am
so i want to ask you, after you hear that comment, and after you look at this headline from man like, you know who we just heard from there saying why, mongolia can't and won't produce abroad mass movements. do you agree that despite the youth being activated, that it's not realistic that we'll see any lasting impact? i think one thing i should add is to to the previous comments in both to them. yeah, that and goal is the very young country. the median age is slightly below 30, and it is a country where the young people make up the great chunk of the population. and but the, the problem, and i also say what melissa, there is some kind of despair hope with just some extent. if for example, i am based in conflicts time we had the,
11:48 am
the bloody and protestant lead to hundreds of death, which basically took the streets of the whole country and different cities. and are compared to that in all the process. what i could fence reading all the posters and logan with kind of a hopelessness to despair. not anger. like in case of our country. yeah. so talking about the brain doing this to one of the major motors was what is called this number. and the remoter and we want to live well in one goal in our country. yeah. and there been many videos and social media people would say that i could leave the country. i have an education, i have possibilities. but we, we don't want that. we want to transform this entry, and there was a sense of misgivings that things are not going well specifically for young young
11:49 am
people. and you know, when you say things are not going well specifically for young people, i think it's worth mentioning for our audience, for those who maybe don't know that's a very large proportion of the population. more than 1000000 and a country of just over 3000000. i mean youth aged 15 to 34, represent the largest demographic group in the country. and when you think about that, you know, we see, i personally have some experience. i've been to mongolia and i bring this up because i was, i was very impacted by not only its beauty but, but the frustration, especially amongst young men. i was working on a documentary where they were looking at how they were redefining masculinity. just 30 years after communism fail, you know, and it seems like there's a reverse gender gap also in mongolia which is quite rare. where a lot of young women might have jobs, there might be more, more stable or secure. and so i'm curious, you know,
11:50 am
just what can you share with our audience on, on about this, this question of whether these concerns are too general, whether these demands are too general. we heard from jar, you know, we didn't see the kind of mass death and violence that we saw on the protests in kazakhstan few months ago. are you optimistic that despite the dependence on russia, that there is a way out of this crisis? so i also have a very dark notion basically that there is, isn't much there isn't any kind of resolve. i would say that the government can do because it's, it's almost like like a bubble at 1st. and there is no way of fixing it because this has been building up and building up for
11:51 am
a very long time. i would say from the beginning of when we go, i became a democracy. there was issues of welfare issues of wage low wages for workers and also again you talked about particularly about men, about our masculinity, about who we are as an uncle in men. that is a big issue. because why is that such a big issue? i mean, i know that traditionally there was a very narrow sense of what a man needs to do and be, you know, we need need to wrestle, he needs to be able to ride horses. what's the issue? i mean, i know that sounds a bit cliche but, but that does stem from a very kind of rigid view of the role of men in society. am i wrong for, for me, i think the issue social when mongolia transition from, from a, from a communist country to a democracy we, we lost all most of the. how can i feel like the,
11:52 am
the blue collar jobs or the factory workers at the base? the proletariat or what have you, right? the people who are working, my class of that that's specific cation of men have become law. so there's basically 3. there's basically 3 magole men. there's one that is who is like a super rich businessman. yeah. and there's the mongolian who lives in the countryside . and the 3rd is the main goal in who is a strong man who is like a wrestler. so those are the only 3 images that are perpetuated in, in our, in our society. and it's, and again i, i, as i talked why dance of not met him when william man cannot be all those things very difficult, right? and, and, and, and, you know, all decided not to cut you off, but all this on and really begs the question,
11:53 am
if the government and the decision makers are ever really going to be receptive and willing to actually listen to the youth. especially if their demands might not be very specific or, or as organized as some critics say that it can be. and with that in mind, i do want to share on you tube we have as xander, as in our chat, asking or bringing up a point about they're saying, i feel that that, that the impact is informed by how open to criticism and listening to their plight . the government will be, and i, you know, i, i, we also have a video comments are one more that i think is worth going to when we talk about solutions hulahan. when we talk about what to do about this, now that this is happen now that the conversation is continuing online in mongolia . ok, let's listen to what zal jargo had to say, and we'll come to you hold on. contrary to the politicians, how policies and that practice had view on business and
11:54 am
in the san implicitly, their practice reveal the evidence of their b, r, q concerned structure crisis. so hold on your thoughts. i saw an under seemed to agree as he was nodding as, as she made her point. what do you think will on well, i would like to go back to the previous coming or, you know, since the one period of the population of the country is sir, you? yeah. i yeah, i hope that the things will be changing, of course, but i don't know how and why or when, but for example, like so this photos for example, it's be like acting the sofa, you engage me like they are participation. and also, since the country, it doesn't matter like, you know, we see that, you know, slight,
11:55 am
could be surprised. the number of the decision making positions, people. sure. so $6.00 to $1.00 3rd of the population. yes there's, yeah, they of course will dissipate in the society and also run for the office as well. right. so i think that would be the hope. all right, right. be, you know, i'm not, not, not, not, not to broaden this out of mongolia, but in so many issues are flashpoints in any country around the world. it's so often the case right that the youth are either sidelined or feel as though they have no voice or not being taken seriously, even if they are a disproportionately larger number of the population. so one thing that perhaps, you know, if you're watching this, you have in common at the young person, if you're watching with people in mongolia before we go, i do want to just ask, you know, this energy issue because of the pandemic. and then we have this invasion of ukraine by russia. mongolia,
11:56 am
for those who don't know is entirely dependent essentially on russia for its energy supplies. jar, how difficult do you think the situation is going to be if this war continued? how effective will mongolia be? basically the pandemic and the optimal hit mongolia quite heavily, both in terms of inputs from the experts and specifically for the country which exports, coal and other minerals, china and the one which is basically entirely almost dependent on energy resources from, from russia. the last 2 years, and i would say this is partially the, basically the background, all this despair when the world started opening up after the pandemic, that's what the expectation because the country was closed, travel was close tourism and trade decline. it was a hope that probably this is the time that things will get better. but the new
11:57 am
restrictions in china and the closing of florida and the war and ukraine made hits. but the goal is specific and this is the country which has only 2 bars. prussia, china, right, and, and imports energy from one and sell took some cold, copper nose to the other raw materials mainly. and basically it was a double hit and things are not going well. bryan actually and politically. and in recent years, mongolia got involved in this wind rush, the energy energy do, and there's and there's and there's so much more to discuss about the geo politics of it all and all the different reasons i do want to thank you. we're out of time for today, so thank you for joining us to our guests and for you at home. see you next time. ah
11:58 am
witness, bay witness. bravery, witness. reader, witness. slavery, witness. people, witness. how was witness and lifetime witness and our witness man witnessed b. witness prejudice. witness. peace, witness. love, witness. ball witness. the world witness. next door, witness life. witness. era may on al jazeera frontline reporting in depth analysis. we bring you the latest from the ukraine war and the unfolding humanitarian crisis documentary, but inspire with me swings world issues into focus through compelling human stories . the philippines votes in one of asia biggest election over 35 years since the
11:59 am
country emerged from his father's dictatorship could frontrunner ferdinand mouth was junior to take the tops both al jazeera investigative program, full blinds were tons with a special theories on abuse in the boy scouts of america, lebanon goes to the polls, but will political change help the country find its way out of its crippling economic crisis may on al jazeera, in the vietnam war, the u. s. army used to heidi, talk to code the side with catastrophic consequences. agent orange was the most destructive instance of chemical warfare. a decade later, the same happened in the us state of oregon. these helicopters flying over the ridge, bringing something they didn't even see the caird foot. 2 women are still fighting for justice against some of the most powerful forces in the world. the people versus agent orange on al jazeera. ah,
12:00 pm
a knowledge is iraq. with no a protest outside you. i supreme court after an unprecedented league suggest justice is good overture and the roe v wade case sat legalized abortion ah ha. you're watching al jazeera alive from bill. how with me for the back table also ahead a group of people who escaped the be scenes, ukrainian city of mary a full reach safety.

36 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on