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a conversation large cannot be easily erased by, by the superpower with no host and no limitation. what matter do you know was to be radical. how can the thing that's radical be for say, part one of the highway and denise to pool is not about wanting to sell. you know about the message in the studio. b, unscripted on outs is era. ah, this is al jazeera ah oliver, i'm new clark. this is a new life from dell coming up for the next 60 minutes. i protest outside the u. s. supreme court offer an unprecedented lead suggest justices could overturn the roe
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vs wade case that legalized abortion. russia shells planted merrier poll, where hundreds of ukrainians are taking shelter. it's good versus evil. that is why ukraine must, with u. k prime minister barak johnston addresses ukraine's parliament pledging $300000000.00 in military aid to defeat russia. a celebration so violent in india is tensions rise between muslims and hindu. in sports, we will look ahead as nights, champions, league semi final plus tennis from the madrid open. and in the embassy piles the top seeds make winning saw the conference semi ah,
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so we begin this news with the landmark abortion law in the united states, which is facing a possible threat elite to draft of the supreme court's opinion suggest. the justices may strike down the decades old wrote versus wade ruling. that news has generated a range of reaction from shock and disappointment, to praise. or this is the in washington dc, 9 o'clock in the morning, live pictures that the supreme court justice getting together. they've been the overnights and other already course demonstrations in other parts of the country as well. that's enough for military brian, who begins our coverage. 2 0, god, it's one of the most divisive issues in the united states. within hours of a leaked draft opinion, showing justices could overturn a landmark ruling on abortion rights. protesters from both sides gathered outside the supreme court. why it's been
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considering whether to overturn the 1973 judgement known as roe, the wade that legalized abortions across the country. i'm very passionate about being her life. and i'm just curious. i what the attitude is like and kind of witness history because this is a huge deal. it's expected to issue its ruling in june, but the draft written by conservative justice samuel leto suggests the top court would find the rosie way decision was wrongly decided. because the u. s. constitution makes no specific mention of abortion rights. this is really just tearing apart everything that we've worked for and everything. all the change that we've worked for to happen. it would represent a seismic shift and us politics, pushing decisions on abortion rights back to individual states. ah, it could also have a major impact on upcoming midterm elections as well as the presidential vote in 2024 would be a good faith to fight in regard to california. we'll,
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we'll keep illegal here. but other states like texas and others were red states are pretty, are 21 states are waiting with legislation to be the restrict abortion or the band altogether. right now at this point, you're waiting for this kind of decision. several conservative states have recently joined a growing push to restrict abortions. some activists are calling for legislation at the federal level to protect rights that we need mass co does in hundreds of cities across the nation to defend really weight. and we also need to go on the off, and so today's passcode as action clue, workplace actions by the living woman for abortion, and reproductive care to be free. oh wow. the unprecedented lake has smart controversy across the us. the draft rolling can only become final when it's published by the court, alexia brian, al jazeera. ok, let's explore this as john is not from am her son, massachusetts? is laura briggs?
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she's a professor of women, gender and sexuality studies. a wrigley writes about reproductive politics or feminism and race. laura briggs, welcome to the program. first of all, what was your reaction to this extraordinary news? i wish i could say i was disappointed, but we know that the republicans have been stacking the courts for years. um, anticipating this outcome. so how long has his campaign been going on to overturn this laura and what now can be done potentially to stop it? well, since the nixon administration and nixon thought of the idea of politicizing the question of abortion in this way. and in order to win republican votes, but it's also clear that whoever lead this draft ascension intended that people should mobilize either to stockpile medication for medical
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abortion or to get into the streets and get on the pages of the editorial pages of news magazine to newspapers and let the court know that the majority of american support, the outcome of roe v wade and legal abortion and the kind of bodily autonomy for pregnant people that represents right. given the majority in the united states, do not want this overturned. why is it that the republicans have be working so you mean you say back to the next nixon days? why is it been going on for so long? because it mobilizes a small core of their voters. and even child co conservative christians in particular, who will, will get out, who will be the volunteers for the campaigns and who will vote for people like former president trump, who otherwise i think they would be not drawn to in your view,
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if this does go through what are the implications? well, what we know from the texas bounty law is that 90 percent of the people who were seeking abortions got them anyway. so they cross state lines or they turned to medication abortion so that they could do in their own own. and so what this car will do with this particular ruling will do is turn the question back to the states and about a dozen states cross the south in mid west have trigger laws that will immediately set out to criminalize abortion. and while other states, like i'm here in massachusetts, will protect the re and possibly even expand the right to abortion. and if that happens, if we criminalizing abortion, if that happens, what have implications for women around the country?
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or one of the things that we know is that women will die. and women have always sought abortions. and when it was the right time in their lives to have a pregnancy to have another baby and when they couldn't afford it, and they couldn't squared it in their lives. and to women often taken drastic measures to and to get an abortion to stop a pregnancy. and some of them die. it's a little bit safer now than a once before the ro arrow, because we have the up opportunity to use medication, abortion which women around the world and places where abortion is criminalized, have been using successfully and safely to bout is safe. it's tylenol. ra, thanks to talking to sir. laura briggs is speaking to us from am has to massachusetts in the united states. thanks very much. thank you.
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more than 200 civilians remain trapped in the huge steel plant in the ukrainian city of merrier pole. that's according to the man. russia has confirmed it is attacking ukrainian fighters inside the factory without tillery and with plains moscow resume shelling of the plant soon after at least one hundreds of millions were evacuated on sunday. that group is now on its way to a free ger along with other evacuees from the city. where volunteers in mason ukraine and risking their lives to rescue people in danger of rush attacks, civilians from towns and villages of be evacuated, even though there's no agreement in place with moscow or the united nations. of course, what shall stratford and his team or the bus taking people from the frontline town of these to safety be our volunteer evacuation driver. ego come live. listen to directions from a contact on the front line. there will be
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a petrol station. you go straight off to the cross roads. you turn right? she says, we put on our protective vests and get on the bus you. it's an alice drive to the town of that div gusts who countryside, that so far doesn't bear the skulls of war. eagle's church group got a call that up to 40. people wanted to be evacuated immediately. he has to move fast because there's been a low in the shelling bush. we feel we have to do some think because people have to live. it's as simple as that. when we go in, we are very anxious, but when we get people out, we feel joy, that those weak destroyed buildings begin to appear as we enter town. the bus stops and we walked down into a nearby bunker all in our fled shelling around the town of cremmit tossed with her 2 daughters, uva and maria. she says she is too afraid to leave the relative safety of the underground shelter. i punch in these cabinets and it's,
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it's not added. the children are terrified of the shelling shells are hitting buildings near our home. it's not as loud under ground that if the streets above a virtually empty rushing shells have hit residential housing blocks nearby. people stop boarding the bus, some have bought their pets, sisters moms and dads, and the elderly. this terrified old lady told us, i'm so scared and i don't want to die, nor her emotion miss. i feel great relief. we live for more than a month in the basement. we are just so thankful. it's very scary. we'd just have to leave you a the boss races out of town before the shelling stultz again. this is the 1st time in the church. her was received a call from people desperately wanting to get out of the of these evacuation now place a 3 day journey to a shelter. we wish the new crime there are ongoing evacuation efforts to various
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villages and towns happening across east and ukraine. but they are not negotiated by the un or agreed upon by russian forces. there is no safe passage for thousands of people like these. charles stratford al jazeera at the ymca eastern ukraine. british prime minister bars johnson is told the parliament in cave that ukraine will win the war against russia. he gave his address via video link is the 1st world leader to do so, since the conflict began, johnson said britain would help fortify ukraine, so it could never be attacked again. we, who are your friends must be humble about what happened in in 2014. because ukraine was invaded before for the 1st time in crimea, was taken for from, from ukraine. and the war in the dorm bass began. and the truth is that we was too slow to grasp what was really happening. and we collectively failed to impose the
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sanctions then that we should have put on vladimir putin. and we cannot make the same mistake again. i let me tell you, our correspondent nanny bobby joins us from london that night. him tell us more about what parts johnson had to say in many surprises in his dress will make a thing come, it was a, it was a very, a welcome speech and one that, that term combined 2 themes really firstly, it was a, a message of solidarity to both the leadership in ukraine and the people of ukraine, boys, johnson, and specifically included and not to the 2nd world war. now, president zalinski ukraine, of course, addressed the british parliament in march, making reference to world war 2 and alluding to a church hill speech about fighting the enemy on the beaches and so on. will bars,
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johnson said, bertram, that was a comparison to be done. busy between how the british people are resisted during the 2nd world war and how ukraine currently is resisting the russian invasion. he said this, this was a new kinds, finest hour. this is a quote to your children and grandchildren will say that ukrainians taught the world. that brute force the brute force of an aggressor, counts for nothing against the moral force of a people determined to be free. and he went on to predict that ukraine would win. but it was also an announcement of new military aid. so practical assistance. he said that britain would be providing equipment and so on to the tune of around $375000000.00. that's on top of around $250000000.00 worth it's already been sent, which is and things like her anti tank missiles radar systems. and so the new
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equipment which involves 13 men armed armored vehicles, which are supposed to help in civilian rescues from areas where the civilian population is under siege and also to help and crucial workers to actually get the infrastructure of the country up and running again as soon as they can, this is, this has been expected, but the detail is you and i'm sure that will be very welcoming. give it indeed. i, i imagine all that's been very well received by the president lensky. isn't it? not just by the president who was there applauding as an prime minister johnson appeared on the video screen along with the rest of the parliament, some of whom were holding union flags. but yeah, those, those elected representatives saying things like, we were lucky to have as good a friend as boris johnson saying they hadn't seen a standing so many standing ovations in parliament since the russian invasion started. so it's gone down very well in care of, of course,
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johnson and zelinsky did a walk walk through care of last month together. so boyce johnson has already appeared physically in the capital. but yet, in, in, in, in ukraine it's gone down very well somewhere where boys johnson has seen his popularity. plumb it all go down recently is here in britain. and he's now being accused by the opposition, liberal democrats of electioneering, trying to use this image of himself as somebody who is a big player on the international stage. but more than that actually going above and beyond in helping ukraine. it's our of needs. they're saying that what was his been carefully timed in that this could have been announced when the british parliament was actually in session in recent weeks, whatever the case, the british government says it could have gone quicker on the issue of ukrainian refugees. something broke johnson admitted on the waves on tuesday himself, and they're facing the prospect of legal action by people in the u. k. wanting to
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host ukrainian refugees who say that there's just too much of a delay and only around a quarter of people have been issued with visas. i've actually arrived here in the u. k. that's the background. that's how it's being seen in britain bar is johnson will hope obviously, that he get some kind of bounce in the opinion polls in the coming days. but certainly in ukraine, it's being seen as a welcome move and one which obviously they'll hope the other heads of governments will actually replicate a rider. nadine, thanks for that. said that the bible reporting from london. we are going to cross over towards 0. what i will hammered, who is in the credit city is a preacher. where about a 100 people who left a steel were planted, merrier. pull ahead of me. been waiting use of those so many hours. now what, what more do we know about these rivals? well we just heard from the deputy prime minister who is here to welcome these
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people. as you said, we've been waiting for hours since this morning. around 8 o'clock we worked. we were told arrival is imminent is they still haven't reached this parking lot. now, as we understand it now, because most of the evacuees have crossed under ukrainian side, but the deputy prime minister was explaining that it's a very slow process because the russians are vetting every single person before they cross the agreement. originally that the you and the i, c, r c, are made between the 2 sides, is that only the civilians inside the as of style of the steel factory would to be evacuated. well that has change while they were there under ground. ukraine wanted to include more civilians that are outside of that factory in say, in more you post. so it deeper that had to be negotiated again. and again. now as
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she says about a 156 people who are on that convoy, so not many more as they do and maybe would have which we still have to hear from them because they have been quite silent on this all operation. i asked over and over again, and the spokesperson was all the say we cannot give any it is because we don't want to jeopardize this operation. oh, she said that there was this huge convoy that went through with buses. they could have accommodated about a 1000 people, but that did not happen. she says that there's more civilians that are hold up in that steel factory. and she said there was at least 40 people who are badly injured . now we don't know if those injured are actually soldiers fighters of the, as of a regiment or a civilian. she didn't explain any of that. but at the moment, as we understand in that, on what it will finally make it here, people are trickling on to the ukrainian side. and at some point,
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when all that is done, they will come here and we'll get more details from you and an international red cross, but certainly an operation that they thought might have taken a day. and now we are in the 3rd day waiting for that. and it has been from what we understand complicated at every stage of this operation or order will be there for the moment back with you as soon as you have further news of the impending arrivals of those evacuated from mary paul. thank you, but marcella had on the news are including, you know, where to go. we follow the plates of villages belonging to the car and minority. escape your tax from most army. and was this christiane rinaldo saying good bye to the mice? united fans. little traffic will have the latest on his future in sport. ah,
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the curfew has been declared an indian city of your poor, following fighting between hindus and muslims internet connection. there has also been cut. the unrest began on monday nights during religious festivals in both communities and continued on tuesday. this problem is a new delhi and explains what's behind the confrontations. very heavy police press now in and around an area called a jewelry gate, off the city of george pul, following more clashes more fighting between hindus and muslims on tuesday. local media is saying that at least 10 people have been injured and one person has been taken to hospital. now. these altercations again on monday night when him do muslims started arguing over hoisting religious flag. muslim the listen to calibrating the end of rums on its ead in india on tuesday. and hindus was celebrating a festival called should j empty. both groups wanted to voice their flags in the
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area. now that led to violence between the groups police trying to disperse the crowd using battens, and using gas crowd than attacking a police pose and injuring offices. that things had come down by tuesday. they were very much under control. each praise in the area took place peacefully, but following e prayers. they were more clashes and 5 different areas around the gate. so what authorities have done now is imposed a curfew and 10 areas around louis gate till midnight on tuesday, the internet to remain suspended. internet is often suspended and india in times of tension. a short gaylord, he's the state leader, he's sent home secretary and senior officials to the area from roger that sustains that job, corps and roger capital j port. and make sure that the violence here does not escalate against that is on a joint is from new delhi, is you're going to have his political activist. you're going to appreciate your
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time at 1st of all. what is your feeling about what's been happening? nick buster fall is nobody to you and to all their yours because that's the day we celebrate either in india today. it's very sad news on the 8th day on this particular incident that happened yesterday. and today is somewhat, a typical, somewhat, slightly unusual to what has been happening for the last one months. it's unusual aid because it appears to be a clash from new site, which is not what has been happening to the last one month. it's also unusual because it is taking place in the state of friday on and off india, which is gover, not by the ruling party at the center. it's governed by the congress. and therefore, one can expect the law and order of machinery protects them. but. but that's not what has been happening to the last one month. and this is what makes this morning . this didn't like this. so crucial, so critical,
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and therefore the entire nation's eyes are on this incident, which otherwise would it faster, which otherwise would not have affected much attention and which otherwise would not have become such a major incident. it is the overall context of what is happening for the last 3 weeks in the country where minorities have been systematically target indian constitution is a 2nd constitution, grand equal rights to really just minority infect grants, special rights to religious and cultural minorities. but in reality, on the street that is being effect or being written, what can you have witnessed in the last one months? is that the state or in the street or being used of the minority, specifically the most right and muslims make up 14 percent of india is what is it one point? 4000000000 population they are, as you say in the minority. what safeguards if any, are in place to, to protect him, to stop this kind of thing from happening. the constitutional says god, sir,
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as i said, constitution provides equal citizenship. prostitution provides the right to religious propagation. prostitution provides right through a liberty congregation, right? to establish religious institutions and everything else, but you need something to protect the constitution itself and eventually the government, the b j. p policy. but they're not doing enough. so what we have witnessed to the last one month is that the government has been either quite sadly, including the prime minister or to have been increasing in the st middle anti protest that are happening really just 2 sessions are organized that deliberately stopped outside in mos that provoked provoke for war until the retaliation happens . and ben, misty, eps, anybody parties in weight. so the state has been either sounding or increase inch or partisan. bulldozers have been used against the mostly minority groups,
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individuals, families who have been accused of being party to the wireless, not no reference to any court of law. and sadly, the final fallback that you should have, namely the court, the human rights commission, the minority commission, all of which are in place. sadly, they have not come out to defend their minority right. and the manner in which one expect it together, we're going to leave the i do appreciate your perspective on this. thank you very much in the for joining hernandez or are you going to read that list? collectors? thank you. we are going to move on to the weather, his rock. now the hot, windy and dusty weather been blowing out to north africa into the middle east. it seems forever, but it's just be the last couple of weeks, really brief system of the system. so quite back conditions every now again. but usually when this blows through, the hot weather is blown size followed by fresh weather is the case on the coast
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for example of egypt and israel. so juices that's 22 in beirut as 20 to 10 degree drop. wanted or change, but the heat is push saved and there was a movie from west to east, which to some is something the advantage, for example, in pakistan where the class been building the winds in picking up the recent really high temperatures sunday. so 49 and 49, a half of been dropped. so 4542 respectively says a bit of a change coming through what really have been extremely hot conditions is a picture for wednesday. then the north end didn't play is also affected by this is you, nobody could attempt to a down a little bit here because the strengths of the wind. but that also brings dust in the abs. me with it, but it's university quite hot. so he's wanting treating solution in the heat the sun, if you're in, for example, a rick shaw and you've got a garden on your roof. it's a little colder inside. it really does work. further east is not as hot, it's cooler, but the feet of moisture means big shower in the forecast for the northeast of india and bangladesh,
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i still had hair and al jazeera. we look at the difficulties confronting gen. listen, uganda and the rest of the world is the well marked press. freedom and a contend of a catch of years. major league baseball. pretty good. as cardinals. a rope to the hey, run that story on the wednesday just another aah! frank assessments. what are the political risks of panic russian or the gas for western leaders? o sanctions on russian energy exports a recipe for such informed opinions, france he's not abandoning to fight against jedi. still is a media debt going to be attaching from nisha and from chad critical debate. could china actually help in russia's invasion of ukraine in depth analysis of the days global headlines inside story on al jazeera cotton, one of the fastest growing nations in the won the casa needed to oakland and
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development pool international shipping company to become a team middle eastern trade and wanting skillfully, mcdonald 3 key areas of development who filling a promise of connecting the world, connecting the future. wanted cato. gatos gateway to whoa trade. lou ah, again, you're watching, i'll deserve who mind about top stories and more than 200 civilians remain trucks in the huge deal plant in the ukranian city of merrier pope. according to the map,
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a russia has confirmed it is targeting ukrainian fighters inside the factory with artillery and with plague. internet connections have been caught in a curfew imposing the density of your poor. following fighting between hindus and muslims, the unrest began on monday nights during religious festivals and continued into tuesday. is like pictures, protest as have begun gathering outside the u. s. supreme court. this after a leak, suggesting that justices could strike down a keen ruling on abortion rights at the top court has been considering the judgement known as roe vs wade. that legalized procedure across the country. tuesday is world press freedom. day journalist, you gather, say it's getting harder to do their jobs because of the government crackdown on dissent. rights group say it's part of a long running campaign to silence critics, or in tulsa as this for these journalists waking. again,
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that is frustrating and sometimes dangerous. in march, the independent online tv station was rated by security officials, journalists wasted for what the government court fiber, stalking and offensive communication. some say they were tortured before being released on bail. anything in regards to broadcast was picking anything regarding to or office equipment from computers to even media paperwork even receipts me. i was, it was, it's for fuel. i mean everything was taken. that's why it's a noun clause, because as move our own will find i am sure you. so our team, as i do, as it seems at our section, we do anything, rights groups. the keys presidential weird mas seventies government of silencing critics was saving. he has been in power since 1986. the opposition says he has become increasingly authoritarian,
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cracking down and voices of descent and harassing independent media outlets that it causes the attacks on jalissa. i think she are fairly appreciate the critical role that will media plays in a democracy where the security and governments tend to think that was generally. so media house curves the story that he's not in their favor, the fighting demand against them. they do not appreciate the critical importance of holding lead us to our account over exposing bus or gross misuse of office and power. uganda government says it is not trying to muzzle the press, but journalist can't be allowed to publish. false news, commit libel, and fuel incitement. they are not going to count to ignore the media house. oh journalists, desa, because they are. so you're talking about is, this is of grain. i'm the security process going in there, but it's not targeting the, the journalist, but some journalists in uganda feel the state is targeting them. and they say more
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needs to be done to respect people's rights to freedom of speech and expression. parramatta, out there while you're going and unesco hosting manual or global, oppressive freedom day conference in point to dallas. the and to transpose that conference joins us live from there. and theresa press freedom under the spotlight . more than ever, tell us what's happening, what are you hearing? well, yes, we're here in boone valley. there were journalists, journalist associations, no years international organizations are all getting together to discuss how to defend freedom of speech and freedom of expression. there's hundreds of people that have come here today, and the theme of this session is journalism, under digital feat, discussing the challenges that germany face to date by the use of social media. tro centers, surveillance technology, among other things, the united nation cultural agency, unesco,
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awarded this years. we don't have speech are war 2 and a back to met. he's chairman of the associate belie ruth association of a journalist. he travelled all the way here to you why, from an undisclosed location. he's away fleeing from the government of alexander lucas, who since the election been 2020 home, the west of the elections, where he has launched a crackdown on journalism. and there's over a 1000 political prisoners earlier today, we spoke to andy back, and this is what he had to say on this special day for journalism around the world . wouldn't you, will you like to think it's cool? is that what i would like people to remember that there are governments around the world to transmit fake news. that's why i want to send a message to the people who work and controlled by governments, that they should start transmitting real information to people. and i send a message of support to those who are doing it from independent media and other
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trenches. so as i said before, the theme of this conference is journalism under digital, the gender, things that are being discussed, for example, is the use of malware and fireware like a gasoline. and during that, i've been talking for lots of journals who have been victims of those of artificial intelligence and how attacks against female during that is have, have increased online in the past few years. but it was also being discuss what can be done to protect freedom of speech, to protect journalism from this surveillance technology that we're talking about. and we were earlier today talking to their rapport to for freedom of speech. irene can voice requesting, for example, a moratorium on the sale and transfer of surveillance technology. this is a big, big demand here. and they also wanted to keep government accountable, the one governments to respond because they're using a technology that is meant to go after criminals,
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to try to suppress dissent or threads or leave it there for moment. thanks very much of nature is about speaking to her. so, but we are still going to stay with the story because we're going to speak to judy ginsburg, who is president of the committee to protect your lesson, joined us now from new york. i, jody, welcome to the program on this day. we've just been hearing about the challenges journalists faced in this digital world. what more can be done to protect journalists in these challenging times? i think there's a lot of that can be done. we've seen a real decline in support from for the press over the past 2 years, and that's really been a tone that has been set from the talk. so one of the 1st things that we'd like to see is leaders in the, in positions of authority come out strongly in support of media and the role of the press in supporting democracy, supporting free societies. it was encouraging the weekend to hear the u. s. president joe biden with us some of the language that had been used by his
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predecessor and talk about the press as guardians of the truth, as opposed to an enemies of enemies of the people. not really, really important. so that's the 1st thing in the 2nd thing is as we heard, governments have been increasingly using surveillance techniques miss using and abusing legislation. contended to deal with se terrorists or other criminals. she prosecute and pursue journalist who are simply doing their jobs report saying accurately and fairly, at those in positions of power. right answer because we know well about the challenge is worky and authoritarian regimes where it, where there is little democracy but restrictions, as you just alluded to, restrictions all being imposed in place as you might not expect, i should say within the united states, yet with in europe well, that's exactly the problem. so what we're seeing is the kinds of techniques that have been traditionally used, as you say by authoritarian regimes being pursued in democracy. one of the things
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that particularly worrying i think is we had in your report related to it. we've seen a lot of online harassment of journalists, particularly women and women. jonas, women of color. i'm not has a chilling effect on the freedom of the press, but in order to deal with some of that harassment government to trying to introduce legislation that i think could end up limiting the freedom of the press that we need to think very carefully and scrutinize very cassidy, the kinds of laws being introduced, even in democracies, that meant to do with online harassment, but could end up having quite negative consequences on the ability of the press to report independently and really. okay, so that's, that's one front line. another of course, is those journalists working on in both ends on front lines like ukraine. but another one is those working in or in countries run by for a terra and regimes. you have to fight censorship or worse. so how can we support them? absolutely, i mean we've seen at least 150 janice, for example,
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have to had to leave russia because of the restrictions that have been imposed during the will on independent reporting on russia. one of the things we can do is ensure that those journalists have the ability to report outside of country. but the thing that we keep having to do is to stress the importance of afraid and independent presses. important, of course, to provide training support to those generally supporting conflict in ukraine. the vital, i'm making sure that they've done this, which i triple independent they can coach is able to continue to do say ok, jody will leave it there. thanks very much. indeed. i, jody ginsburg, president of the committee to protect journalists, speaking to a thank you very much indeed. ah, let's bring you some breaking news out of ukraine. a group of about 100 people who left the field found to the besieged city of mariposa arriving as we speak in
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zachary job. believe this is the, or will, is one of the buses that they are on. i think this something like a 156. in this particular convoy we been waiting for old boat. this is now the 3rd day of waiting and dead. they've been hold up in that factory for several weeks in mary, a pole and have been released in it full. at 1st we thought it was just an evacuation from the steel plot. the has a cell steel plant, but we understand there were negotiations between the united nations and the red cross. and the russians that allowed more civilians from outside to steal plants, i believe, to join say something like across what it was like about a $156.00 people on that convoy and will be seen them disembarking where they will be received and taken on the medical care, no doubt. the city has been under siege cincy early days of the war truck civilians and they've had scarce access to food to water, to medicine,
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to electricity. you might remember had more than a week ago, president putin, to russia, saying that after mariposa, the majority of it had been captured. he told his troops to block off this industrial area so that a fly cannot pass through. well, now it is certain amount of directories have come out of the steel plant and have made the long and arduous journey into ukrainian hill territory out of the steel plant and, and now being received at by security guards and people and medical staff. and zachary j, where they will then be processed and presumably the state within the country and go elsewhere all to other parts of europe. you can see some of those evacuation to ladies is coming off the coach that harbor hammett, or correspondent who's joining us on the phone. i think we can actually get her on
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camera, but she's observing the scenes auto. so tell us more about what you will see. well, the 1st bus has just arrived here. i mean, a boy, we see women, we saw a couple of elderly getting off the bus. now the u. n. actually is deputy prime minister of ukraine told that is a 156 people aboard their scorned void. the un issued a statement saying that out of those a 101 where evacuated from the as of styles to your factory. now they have been trying to organize this so us me just stay away from the buses until people get off. they get registered at the reception center does attend back there and then we will have access to that. but this took 3 days into the making. if not more, there was a lot of negotiations happening a while to put this agreement together. if you remember to un secretary general,
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i went 1st to turkey, then to moscow, and then to keep and then he as and at that point, he got an agreement in principle at the time from president vladimir putin. for this exact this to happen. then he came here and he discussed it more with president as the lensky. the buses had arrived in maria, pull out the outskirts of that as us felt as deal factory on saturday. and it took it at the beginning, there was a group of 20 people who had been evacuated, is not, it's only next day that they got the bulk of the civilians. and we saw does very dramatic pictures of them, really should of crawley, out of the rubble being helped by the ukrainian soldiers who are still hold up in there. so it's been very long after that once they got out from what we understand
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from do you and every step of the, of the journey has to be coordinated between the 2 size at the highest levels. that's what you and has been telling us the russians had wanted to vet every single person. do background checks, make sure no one. no, no civilian will be. no soldier rather would sneak out among the civilians so no men of fighting age were allowed out. now do you credit or say that they were men in that area who are civilians who were not part, who are not fighting and they should have the right to be evacuated. also, it's been complicated because after that the ukrainians also asked for civilians who are outside of the factory to be evacuated at the same time. that took more negotiations because it was not part of the agreement. but they only manage from what we understand at this stage to get $55.00 more people and that's where you get
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that total of $156.00. but as you see now, you can see the, the, the policemen are also here to ukrainian police is also checking the identity of the people coming in, registering their name, figuring out if they need to go somewhere out there is a school that prepare for them to sleep or if they want to continue further to go and if they have family members waiting for them here. so it's still a very long process. we will be able to speak to any of them until the authorities, the ukrainians, the u. n. a and south on frontier does a lot of agencies here. why there to provide whatever support they need? the medical checkups will be 1st and foremost a yes, absolutely. i mean these people have lived under ground for up to 60 days. they
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were in terrible conditions. they were afraid they haven't seen sunlight because the situation was so dangerous that they were lacking of food. they were lacking of a base, you know, water, they were running out of a lot of things. so certainly a lot of them not only would be psychologically distress, maybe also some of them had some sort of medical condition that needs treatment. that is inside that shopping more a coffee shop that has been turned into some sort of medical facility to give these people whatever 1st aid they need at this stage. but just remember they were underground for about 60 days, a very traumatic moment. they probably maybe don't know how much they were the focus of the world's attention and how much their condition has been talked about over and over again. you remember all of these dramatic videos from the ukranian navy commander who is their idea as of style. a factory talking about their
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condition, talking about the civilities, they're showing videos of small children, which we haven't seen yet from where we are. i'm looking inside the bus. if i can see any small children, not in that one, but there are several buses that park this way. let me see if we can take you there. we are here. you can see probably there is a man on a wheelchair. he just got off that bus 2. i certainly will try to go down here to show you as much as we can as we go. but what i can say is that really, they look quite days. i think you see on their face that i it will take some time for it to sink in bed. they're actually out of that situation. there must have been
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harrowing her for them. probably even coming out of that as a, as steel factory was the most dangerous thing for them. even though d u. n said that the safe passage was respected, that there was no shelling during that time and that they did not come under any kind of direct that danger, any close proximity to any kind of bombing we. there's also visit we're just going to continue walking through here. probably. and now all the journalists are rounded, but probably i think they're just are you coming from as of style yet? variable? yeah, maria. so they didn't. she was one of those civilians that were added. we're gonna
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go back because we're being pushed away. right. and how to say, so just to recap, let amy, but we've got about what is it something like it was there to hundreds. we have a lot of luggage out. probably the civilians who were in maricopa who were at joined that convoy after the ones in the steel factory where it freed is doesn't a bit difficult to figure out now? who is to ha, ha, ha, ha ha i, i'll hope you can still. can you still hear me still hear me? hello. yes, i can hear you loud and clear. no show that you can hear us. let me know. ok, i think while we try and re established a connection with how to handle him and just to recap what's going on here. you're looking at a, a coach that just arrived from mary poll. we were have been expecting this convoy to arrive as the 1st of several coaches at this combo to arrive am, will 3 days go rinse the 3rd day they were picked up as holder was just saying her
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own saturday. they, her every step of the way is be coordinated by the you and the red cross in the russians. the russians have vetted every single one of the we think it's a $156.00 people on the convoy. they wanted to make sure that only women and children would be going on this convoy and men who were not of fighting age. there will be no one or fight th, in this convoy. they will have been left behind and at the still works. so if we say there's a $150.00 or at least a 100 have come from the still works, it was estimated that there were a 1000 civilians there. 100 of no less. so we can say that is $900.00 and it's still at the still works as well as the at servicemen who have been fighting and, and we've got what is it something like, just over 50 civilians who've also being picked up in that was in later negotiation as a harder, i think we've got a re establish contact with, you know, tell us more about what you're seeing. well,
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i'm just saying we're going to take your round here in the middle of the buses because we did see some children waiting to get off with just at the moment when they are going through the registration process. with the crania authority actually inside the bus. you can see the policeman taking ideas, all the people elderly, as we said children, there's one child here and women. these are the only people who are allowed to evacuate the factory. i think the is this appointment that they wanted do you and was hoping for more people to come out of the of their that hasn't been possible. we still don't know why it is something they will clarify. they did say that they will tell us, give us a full picture once these people were safe on this parking lot here in that region
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. but they were hoping also to bring out maybe some of the wounded that was not possible. the deputy prime minister said that they were at least 40 in a very bad condition there, but she did not clarify whether those were soldiers or also civilians. but we do presume that some of them could be civilians because we sold those pictures of them crawling from under the rubble in the last week there were some heavy bombardment of that seal factory and as we understand it, it has started again. once is evacuation of finish once there had been on the move and far away from our youth, while the safe passage was over and the fighting continues in that area of factory, i'm gonna try to see if i can find you someone who was in the factory itself, it did where it is difficult to speak to them at this stage, simply because the koreans are doing their job and they don't want us to approach
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too much at the moment. but i'll try to see if we can figure out if someone was from there. let's maybe move this way and see what's happening. but just a reminder. yes, it is. a big achievement. considering the conditions of all this happening and considering the amount of negotiation that, that it took between the 2 sides. and as i said, the you and just to me that it was at the higher level that these negotiations where on going. but in the end, probably all parties were, would have preferred to have a larger number of civilian evacuated. the deputy prime minister earlier said that this was a 1st step that she hoped that more were would be happening, but certainly an evacuation from marie val and not only from my you, but from that steve factory is an achievement in itself. i don't want to
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sit in school in your, your rabbi because tell them to where if i can jump in there, just ask you, i was just talking about those who have been left behind. well, tell us about that and what we know of them. and in negotiations to try and bring more out the negotiations would be an ongoing to try to bring more out. i think one of the questions for the un and a red cross is this is some sort of considered some sort of test run there. we are told that there are hundreds of civilians still hold up in that as still works. we don't know exactly how many the numbers very anything from 200 to about 800 more. so that's very difficult for us to define. but certainly there are still civilians in there and the, the co, the deputy commander of the, as of a regiment, was saying that there were at least 20 more children in their they wanted,
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they were pleading in their videos that they had been releasing over the past 10 days or so for actually to have in the evacuation of everyone, soldiers, members of the as of regiment and the civilians, they had even issued many a statements asking for 3rd part countries to get involved to have everybody evacuated to a 3rd by country that is something that did not happen was not on the table during the negotiations with president vladimir putin. it was it all centered on civilians excluding men of a fighting age. those were not part of the agreement and i have to say we haven't seen any. we've seen a lot of elderly women. we've seen men, we've seen children, but certainly not any. any other people are the wounded. we haven't seen them so far. they might have been taken somewhere else. if we still have to
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figure out how many of those came out of there and according to the deputy prime minister is and at least another 40 there in very bad condition. in the past few days, the. so the army commander at this deal were to were saying they were over $600.00 wounded, but that we cannot confirm at this stage. we haven't seen any here. we've seen people tired. we've seen people looking this distress. we've seen people pale. i may be emotionally shocked. i'm so such a release over. i'm happy, but we haven't seen any wound and so far. tell us just very brief. got a couple more minutes left on the program unless you like that to turn that. tell us a bit more about the, the changes in place for the i'm just going to compare to the welfare from here they take him to attend, where there's all sorts of assistance they have. they need new clothes if they need food, if they need a basic hygiene, a necessity, all that is in there,
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they also are going to be asked, where are you going to go and stay if they need, if they need some sort of accommodation, there is a kindergarten, that is put in place for them to go and spend the night until maybe they just sinks in or what they have been going through. and i'm just going to compare the arrival of these people compared to many others. evacuated that we have seen arriving on this parking lot over the past few days. and each time they get off their vehicle and they looked still stunned, that they made it as still, you know, coming to terms with everything they have been through. most of the people that also escape under shelling and is there's only after a while then you see them sort of relax and begin to smile. but it takes a while for them. do you have an order? i'm going to jump in there because with this coming to the end of the program, and we'll just going to go to the top of the i with, with more new shortly. but just to recap,
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hereto hammond reporting there from the upper reader the ukrainians who were within the oversell steel plants have now reached zachary jones. taken this, the 3rd day were expecting them on saturday and a 156 have now arrived on the convoy just over a 100 from the steel plot itself. and the rest were civilians, but there are still up to $800.00 more left behind. we'll be back in a couple minutes with healing the debates. there is no, he job bad. the eunice, i am. if anyone here talks about women's rights or so does this, this'll be assumed of then says no topic is off the table. we were taught at the abortion had a one way ticket street to help all of the companies. they deny any responsibility, even though they have the resources and the power to fix it, where a global audience becomes a global community. the comment section is right here. the part of today's program, this stream on out is era full of struggles, full pleasure,
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but i mean a, an intimate life in cuba. it out there a my cuba on al jazeera. mm mm. each and every one of us had to go to responsibility to change our personal space for the better a in we could do this experiment, i mean by diversity could increase just a little bit that wouldn't be worth doing. anybody had any idea that it would become a magnet who is incredibly rare species. i'm asking for women to get 50 percent representation in the constituent assembly here in getting these people to pick up
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the collect the get the same, the re saying extremely important service that they provide to the city. why don't we? we need to take america to trying to bring people together trying to deal with people who could left behind. oh, civilians free from the besieged steel plan tomorrow. hope safely arriving the crating controlled city of procedure. russia resume shelling of the steel plant where more than 200 ukrainians have been ins remain trucked. ah.

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