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from garza city and then garza, we were seeing pictures a little bit earlier of a solid guarantee event of german gathering. to remember sharina. tell us more about that and what you see. oh yes, nick, allow me 1st to express my dear condolences and deepest condolences to all elsie's erased town in management in that trade for the loss of a serene, our colleague, it's a very sad day in not just in the entire policy and territories hearing godsa many activities of solidarity have been held to, to pay tribute, attend, and to pay their condolences to serene, who was an icon to many of the journalists here who honor the truth. sharina has been known for many years to be one of those brave journalists, poet, always
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a period through l, g 0. screens. she is that world wide known for her and biased media, a declaration aid for a delivery. the news it a very neutral and very honest way. she loved journalist, many journalists, a journalist in godsa, legal bodies, international bodies have a casual, lots of solidarity activities here in the gaunt district to day one has already taken place where journalists have gathered with the representatives of the european union, also other representatives of their european union, along with other international illegal bodies here in the gods district, have come to jesse rebuilding to pay their deepest condolences for algebra. a staff here in our bare room on the loss and this sad day. and the last
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of our a dear colleague, she read a book club and we in the studio here and so horror spoken to you, you more and your colleagues many, many times about the story that you cover under very trying circumstance. tell us a little bit more about the kind of challenges you face and telling the story so well, nick, a very strange thing is that today, the death of trina buckner comes in coinciding the memory of last year, which was also very sad occasion for l. g. 0 where our, their room was our building of agility, where our i, j, 0, office was destroyed. so this, this happened on the 15th me of the 2021. and today, one year later on the 11th may of 2022 al jazeera is unfortunately going through
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another very sad event like this. the death of our colleagues to read a book. now, this posting and i'm saying don't just policy and journalist, but it seems that pa journalists in palestine are in that you pied territories, whether it's in the gaza strip. whether there are a big fight territories are not being a protected enough, they're not being a held there. they're not being held to their rights of being protected as they are putting on their fly jackets. the show their oppress size, their helmets, they are taking all of their protective gear on and this should be enough for it then to be out of a denture. so many times last here in the war of god saying israel, we have been going to lots of uh,
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difficulties we have been endangered so many times. and this has, has been going on for so long with journalists that are covering such events in the occupied territories. not just in the gaza strip, but also in the occupied territories. the now aside, thanks so much for speaking to a cert from goes to thank you. let's say from marsha k, who is israel and palestine director of human rights watch. he says international action must be taken to hold is read accountable for the systematic and deliberate targeting of palestinian civilians and journalists. there have been up tick in killings of palestinians, of violence across is or on palestine in recent weeks. that story whenever there are reports of killing so often isn't told. and sharyn woke up in the early morning to go tell that story and was killed while doing that. and i think it's absolutely horrific. it's, of course not a one off hasn't. no, we know that israeli forces systematically have used excessive force. the un
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commission of inquiry investigated those events and documented israeli forces shots at journalist knowing who they were. so this is an event that needs to be understood in the context of the systematic practice and the killings of many other palestinian a journalist. so human rights watch is still investigating the specifics of what took place you've heard night witness. testimonies of other palestinians who have been there, who talked about being in close proximity to israeli, of forces there being no palestinian resistance in the area. but i think it's important to understand this in the context of the systematic practice of excessive force by israeli forces. israeli investigations are white, white, white wash mechanism. that is the assessment that's been reached by human rights organizations, including israel's premier human rights organization. but selim human rights watch
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has a similar diagnosis. israeli forces regularly when news, you know, of their crimes are reported say they'll investigate. those are routinely leading to a white washing mechanism, no accountability. these kinds of killings highlights the necessity of the international criminal court. moving forward, you know, with it's a formal prob, into a serious crimes committed in palestine because the reality is there is no accountability for these sorts of abuses when it comes to actions by the israeli authorities. we have a long record that states back decades of, of palestinian journalists being detained, arrested for their, for their reporting. human rights, watches, documented on these incidents. and of course is really forces regularly use excessive force. and in other means that, that go far beyond the international law, authorizes in the way it polices demonstrations in the surrounding areas and we've
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seen journalist shot at killed including, you know, yasser, for example, yasser, but it has gen garza during the gaza march of return. and as noted, d, u and investigated those events, the commission of inquiry form to look into these events and made a clear point of noting that their conclusion was that israeli forces fired at those journalists, knowing full well who they are. so we're looking at pitches no engineering of aware sharyn was actually kill. this is at the scene. ab floor attributes have been laid to remember sri and a clue where she lost her life. we can get a little bit more about the circumstances of the killing an eye witness and fell a jealous, shy for honey. she says they were pinned on by snipers when she was shot and she joined us on the phone. now from janine schafer, hope you can hear us loud and clear. tell us
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a little bit more about what happened and what the circumstances were. if you would vicky in madison. what has happened at that moment checking the israeli army, which i didn't have targeted us when we were journalists, we were with the helmet and the president to sign it. and it was clear that every month we are a journalist and we gathered in a certain area, we stood for around 10 minutes and then we. so there's really that army and we saw the israeli soldiers and we moved to do our job at you. i'm in her and then well, you know, the amana there's really soldiers were in front of us, like a monkey, maryland,
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and trying to kill africa. not they israeli soldiers. woody. what god has started shooting out is a movie in offered you. the producer was all your couple in charge of teddy hill. and like i happen to my alley managed to move a little bit away either the ini. come on my other colleagues like i just just come back and i know to a certain area. but for us, it was difficult to move in and difficult in order to maneuver. at the same time i had a little higher. so choice the wound was left behind us and is really figured out. army cannot start shooting me. i protect myself. ha berlin. i stood behind a tree, i got the letter in the evening. i advised her to come and be it will take
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turn financial money, but she didn't manage to man and help me pick that up. good medical and we can look at largely less rainy. soldiers continue with their shooting and we were all prevented from moving to other places, yet they as railey soldiers have not really, really yet planned to kill it. she real o'clock. ah, yeah. i think i would have to pay that and they targeted hair on purpose. i can when she, when it's quite impossible to leave the area and bid on the could i had it's quite impossible to be even evacuated from this area. i really would remember, but that was actually showing her the end to talk with the managed to now our colleagues to slowly slowly to take sharina away from the scene. how close
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were the israeli soldiers to you when they were firing the shots? if not, when i type in mac, about indiana, we so did he had the book that of the vehicles i cannot say how far they were exactly how much money and shows i bought. it could not probably come out one of the eye witnesses with our stone mazda. the snipers are over there and can do about it. once can lead to every one that we are not press, press was quite clear. obviously clear. makena the targeted us. they were trying to kill our soul and madness. how do you like ali was muck and not injured, but i'm sure sharon was killed, the shooting continues,
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but what he can this was a horrible situation. i know you're helping roger and we just cover there. but i don't incident. yes, to be shot which you but by snipers. oh, come look. look that up on their the burn it's ha, ha, ha. well, chart in a very careful way, and i think they were trying to target us with money and to kill us in management. and i can see that they were willing to kill us. just to recap, were speaking to shatter honey sher through a translator who was an eye witness and fellow journalist. and she was pinned down with sharing at when she was killed. that chatter, thanks for talking to us in telling us about this hiring story. and we heard that even when sharon was hit, the firing continued,
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so there was no chance to get sharina to safety in the possible treatment. is that the case? i think we've lost our connection with shaft anesha that let's move on. but we're hearing from the eye witness controller, janice, you said in her view, it was a plan to kill serene as saying that they she was targeted on purpose together with other journalist. another journalist was injured at the scene and taken to hospital, but it's in stable condition and was asked about what took place while in hospital . when the last the, you know, he is really have killed her, but we will continue our job and our struggle will continue for the sake and service of the people. i'd like to tell you something. first of all, these crimes of the occupation forces are ongoing. they have killed sharing and cold blood and we will never stop doing our jobs as journalists and conveying the
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truth to the people. we represent no threat at all to the israeli forces. we understand the laws and respect the laws and follow the laws. they have seen us and they have tried to kill us and they have killed sharina. well, let's say now from nora day who's a former colleague of sharina and she spoke of her kindness and humanity. shitty and distinguished journalist and friend and colleague to everybody. and everybody in palestine who's worked with her other been touched by her humanity . i mean, i've known shooting for over 20 years. i was proud to work alongside her of the colleague when i was reporting for under the english. and she was a standard stepping journalist in her integrity in her professionalism. and her relation will tell, calling him the kind of guidance she was always willing to give to up and coming
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journalists to students of journalism. her amicable relations with everybody from all walks of life, with all sorts of politicians and figures. she was an independent journalist. she knew that she was always the side of the story. actually, her job was to be the voice of the people and to tell the truth about any exaggeration without any embellishment. and she was an icon of that. and the distinguished fellow journalist showed him as a household name and thoughtless time. i can tell you without hesitation, but there isn't a house now in palestine and beyond. that is not morning for the last. that does not remember her. not remember the many, many stories that she covered,
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the men in truth uncovered. and so her, the news of her, of her killing was like a thunderbolt to all of us who woke up to be to this, cleared the sight of dozens and dozens of ordinary people. and journalists too, came from everywhere around janine to her farewell and more in her as she deserved to be more and is just an indication of the kind of person that she. 5 kind of journalist that she was she, she touched the lives of many, many palestinians. she covered the most important stories in palestine for over 24 years. so there isn't, there isn't a family or household year that does not know her. that's for my colleague sherry and at nor a day. let's be now to you know, patel who's palestine use the right to from one device,
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news website focusing on palestinian issues. i respect roller in fact and she says she doesn't believe israel will face any accountability you know, time and time again. it has been shown that you know, israeli for the kill palestinians including palestinian journalist without cause in the occupied territory. and its very ex, extremely rare that israeli soldiers, captains, or military officials are ever held accountable for their action. you know, is after high profile killings like this or for example, the killing of children that often get more significant media attention. it's not uncommon for israeli officials to say that they will investigate, to express that quote unquote sadness and say that they will investigate these killings but time and time again, almost without fail. the investigation lead. nowhere, it's ironic that the foreign minister says that journalists must be protected when, when you're talking about journalism in palestine, is,
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is the biggest perpetrator of crimes against journalists in, in the west bank. and so, you know, since 95786 palestinian journalists have been killed those numbers from the palestinian journalist syndicate. and since 2000 and it's estimated that around 50 palestinians have been killed. i talked to the representative from the journalist in the morning. he said that just in the past 2 years, the palestinian journalists were killed in the west bank and gaza. hundreds have been injured. i mean, over the years and according to to bait. which is israel leading human human rights organization. the use of lethal for by israeli forces. the west bank is a crucial element in israel. ability maintain its control over millions of palestinians. and unfortunately, journalists are often the target as they are. the ones who are, are covering israel crime is going to attack in docusign. unfortunately, again, i would have to say there's little to no confidence in foreign governments and 3rd
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party states at this point when it comes to putting pressure on israel for a client. there needs to be a political, but unfortunately when it comes to israel, there is no political well in terms of holding israel accountable for its crimes. and to tax on the journalists in, you know, time and time again, when palestinian journalists are killed when children are killed. when unarmed women are killed, when anyone is tell them what they may be. you know, often trying to feel the sort of statement from us or european officials, but unfortunately they are often just empty statements followed up by you know, lack of action. it's one thing to say, oh, you know, we condemn this killing. and we, you know, as that house in the journalist or the rights of journalists should be protected. but if the us were to come out with that sort of statement, but then immediately after continue funding israel and continue funding israel military as it has been for years, sort of without any real consequences then,
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then i don't believe that that the situation will change or let's say now from palestinian law mohammed dollar, who says the israeli occupation is unlikely to carry out of her investigation. she has been risking her lives for so many years because the truth of what, what's happening to sign. and to show that properties of the legal commission, the ongoing occupation to palestine use from today are not only awful, but they are showing that there is an intention to silence the rules that was coming to the voice. you know, are clear because the war and this makes us all really very, very sad. no shooting. personally. i've seen her work and i'll follow her. and she will come voice that was sent to me and was telling the truth. what's happening on the ground was throughout the last years, she was in
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a spot everywhere trying to show to the world that this occupation is actually her. and that this occupation should justice should be done to the 15 people, something that i'm almost sure that that is not going to happen soon. and it's not going to happen even with regard to the case of that sharina, barley, i have no confidence whatsoever in the ecosystem as far as investigating the killing or philippine in general or the killing now of a block for them. shooting is one more thing and they might, they might try to show to the world that they are working hard have done in any
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other cases of killing him because of attention because of the high profile, surely. but eventually, nothing will happen in our experience with a really good system view killing opinion as in for thought, the occupation. and mainly in the last, in recent years, i've shown that that system is actually wide washing a legal system. the prosecution system is not really trying to find the tools, but rather trying to conceive that they are not really trying to prosecute those who commit the crime. but we are trying to predict them in a legally trying to protect them in a nice manner without the world with the think that they're not really work
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criminal. that's muhammad darla, a palestinian lawyer, while eye witness and fellow journalist charter ha, nyesha says they were pinned down by snipers. when sure he was shot. if you can, i mean we stood together in a collective way as jan less than was started moving when we were shocked by the live ammunition fired at us, we reached an area that did not allow us to withdraw them and we were just facing the snipers if they were not really willing to kill some of us, they could have started shooting before our arrival in this narrow area. i see this is a clear assassination of china. leslie. the one that killed sharin was intended to kill her because he shot the bullets out to mary of her body that was not protected . and i also think that of my colleague tried to escape, they would have directly shot us and killed us. some was shouting, be careful, guys. the snipers arrived there were lots of reaction coming into us. here at al jazeera, this from the palestinian ambassador to united kingdom. as for some,
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som lot, a personal friend of serene rockland, he said, israel try to stifle the truth. she is not the 1st, and the good simply might not be the last honest opinion. jordan is to be murder assassinated by the way, occupation. it's not only killing the body or should it's killing the spirit of the message. oh, surely, the idea of surely it is telling the truth, this occupation is after the truth that they want to us to submit the truth. they want to assist in a job medicine. they want to make sure that they commit the crimes. but without that being reported, it's a cover. so the, the bullet that head her head, a brilliant sparnhead was a bullet targeted at the truth targeted at the international community college targeted at the profession of press and journalism targeted. and everybody wants to
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review the truth. and also this is linked to the lack of accountability is what has been doing this for a long, long time. 74 years. your let us medics, teachers bypasses what have you children. and there is no accountability. all what we hear from the international community. i mean here, government including the u. k. government are statements of concern with no action when in fact, such a deliberative, targeted killing of a journalist minutes an immediate international criminal investigation by the i. c . c and immediate imposition of sanctions on the occupying state. that is as well. and when we. ringback follow what the west, the western countries are doing. these of you claims the immediate employment of sanctions and we follow the lack of such actions. not one of them, not one of the structures are applied to is right. we throw our arms in there and wondering about this double standards,
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the policy of international community. so part of the blame, big part of the blame is on the in action of the international community. and if the killing of should be in a barclay today, that was recorded live on camera, does not merit international sanctions. what does that is? the palestinian ambassador to the u. k. a fatty crime is an activist at the campaign group of vans. he says, palestinians and their supporters will not be silenced by sharina killing. with the old darkness that we see there are glimmers the cope and people across palestine and across the world right now or organizing. whether that is protest, whether the boy caught the investment and sanctioned campaign, there has been a massive, massive movement that has been gaining momentum at 223, palestine and 2 and the occupation here. now part of the murder of sabine is within
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that context because right now there's an attempt to literally massacre the vocal cords of the palestinian people and, and those supporting them. and so the 1st step i would say in terms of what needs to be done, is that people need to continue to raise their voices and to ensure that if they live in countries where there are candidates running for parliament, for example, that support israel. they should not vote for their candidates if they are doing list or in the media sector, they should not give a free reign on the low voices of israeli propaganda, including spokesperson for that is really government to speak on the channels without being challenged. and if we continue to build this movement, if we continue to come to grow part of israel's attack to silence us is because there's really a part that government is afraid of. these rising voices is afraid of these movements and we shouldn't coward or be distracted by the violent. it should make us more resilient and more persistent in our struggles against it. i would call for
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a greater response from the government. and what i would argue, as well, particularly for western governments who have mobilized against the war in ukraine and invasion of ukraine. i would say that by allowing israel to continue to commit these crimes today over the last decade. they have aided and abetted and authoritarian more than one green regimes across the world to come in. tactics wanted us to measure whether that's facing an occupant of the nation. and so i would argue that for governments, not just because it's a moral thing to do, to support the post and in people's rights to feed them and dignity for a world where peace, truly rains. where if we want the world where human rights come 1st, then israel needs to be held accountable. otherwise, it would be extremely hypocritical for the government to, to try and criticize or condemn russia or any other actors of onto the war. but the
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last point i will add here is elements will not act alone. and if we want our government to act again, people power is required. everyone watching the should look at the candidates that are running in their districts. look at the people they are supporting, look at the company that they purchase from. and if any of them support israel, they should begin boycotting them and not support them anymore. and that's fatty koran from the campaign group of as let's move on to diana boots, who, who's a palestinian human rights lawyer. and she says it, israel has a long history of deliberately targeting journalists. i've got grown very tired of the attempts to try to blame the victim for their own. yes, i'm very tired of the attempts by the israelis to somehow turn healthy and resistance into a crime. we know from the people who are on the ground there, we know for colleagues and we have to trust your colleagues. that it was the israelis who deliberately targeted her. the germans who are on the scene,
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had indicated that there was no palestinian resistance there, that they made themselves very clear to the israeli army. and despite the making themselves very clear to the israeli army, that they were not only targeted but then unable to go and provide her with 1st a. this is what we know. the fact that we have to continue to question what we've seen has been a long pattern of behavior is quite frankly disgusting. and i would really love to see the world stand up and report on shitty and jeff, just in the same way that they are just $11.00 day, be reported. or that way that they would like their deaths to be reported. because this was a journalist with integrity with passion, who had been in very difficult situation for all of her journals. life she'd been a person who covered the, the massacre that occurred in gene 20 years ago. she was a person who was in gaza, who covered is really crimes there. this is a person who knew exactly how to behave and who was very much loved by all.

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