tv Inside Story Al Jazeera May 11, 2022 8:30pm-9:01pm AST
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brilliant sparnhead was a bullet targeted at the truth targeted at the international community college targeted at the profession of press and journalism targeted. and everybody wants to reveal the truth. and also this is linked to the lack of accountability is what has been doing this for a long, long time. 74 years. jordan, us medics, teachers bypasses what have you children. and there is no accountability. all what we hear from the international community. i mean here, government, including the u. k. government are statements of concern with no action when in fact, such at the level it targeted killing over journalist minutes. an immediate international criminal investigation by the i. c. c and immediate or imposition of sanctions on the occupying state. that is as well. and when we follow what the west, the western countries are doing. visa view claims the immediate employment of
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sanctions and we follow the lack of such actions, not one of them, not one of the structures are applied to israel. we throw our arms in there and wondering about this double standards, the diversity of international community. so part of the blame, big part of the blame is on the in action of the international community. and if the killing of should in a barclay today that was recorded live on camera does not merit international sanctions. what does journalism is not a crime? and very shortly here on al jazeera, we'll have more reaction and analysis on our program inside story with natasha tate on the killing of a colleague shearing apple. clear, and i'll be back with a news hour in under 30 minutes before i go. i want to leave you with this. not long before her death sharina spoke in our own words about what her career means to
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with is really for, says, kill al jazeera correspondence, sharina and she covers as rainy raids, an occupied westbank. the network calls it a blatant mazda in cold blood. there are international demands for a thorough investigation that will anyone be held accountable for? this is inside school. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm nastasya tay, now sharina utley. it was a household name across the middle east. the veteran out there,
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a journalist and wide spread praise for more than 2 decades of reporting on israel's occupation of palestinian territory, telling stories of war atrocities and palestinian resistance. she was shot on the head as she covered israel's latest raid on the jenin refugee camp in the occupied west bank under the or a condemned the killing as a blatant murder. intended to prevent john les from conducting their duties. cat house foreign ministry has called for an end to what it described as state sponsored israeli terrorism, victoria gate and b reports. no, the body of serene abu eichler is carried through the town of janine in the occupied westbank. the veteran al jazeera reporter was shot dead while covering a raid by israeli forces. another journalist was also shot and injured. the palestinian health ministry says they were hit by bullets fired by israeli soldiers in the mobile until we made ourselves clear to the army and the passers by
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indicating that we are the press than within seconds. there was the 4th chapter, i told him, but we are being targeted. we are being shot off. i turned and found shooting on the ground through these ready military says its forces came under attacking. janine, and that they fired back. there was more exchangeable fire. so that is more possibility whatsoever. i understand you're not the city, not what they are in. the aud was uses these excuses to cover up the crimes they are committing against palestinians, including post in your journals is ready raids in the occupied wes. spank have intensified in recent weeks after a series of attacks inside israel. the janine refugee camp is become a strong hold for resistance against the israeli occupation. sharina butler had worked for al jazeera for 20 years. colleagues described her as brave kind and a voice of palestinians. hope i'm sure there'll be lots of calls from around the world. we got a lot of support from human rights organizations. i'm governments ah,
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who will be looking at what happened here and on why a journalist has been shot that. ah journalists, you know, killing journalists, shooting the messenger, is equivalent to a war crime. so we need to know what has happened. the world needs to know what some cat o's foreign ministry put out a tweet saying, the israeli occupation killed elders. they're a journalist, sharina black left by shooting her in the face while wearing the press best and a helmet. she was covering their attack and janine refugee camp, this state sponsored israeli terrorism mos stoled and unconditional support to israel must end. israel says it's launched an investigation into what happened. it says it does not target journalists, but some human rights activists say they have little faith in these really just a system that i am human rights organizations, for example, like it said in israel, human rights organizations. and that decided
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a long time ago that they are no longer going to even interact with the complaint system within that israeli army. because it is not serious. it doesn't find, is there a disorders guilty? i'm not off him while i'm on the thought the al jazeera is calling for a transparent investigation into the death of sharina blackledge. few palestinians think that's likely to happen, victoria gay to be al jazeera, all out of here as needed. abraham is in our offices in ramallah, with reaction from her colleagues seeing one another. we're not sure what to do. do we try to do is pick it up and keep going. it hard as you can imagine, it's not only hard, and i'll just be in our family here, but also kind of internet coming, showing their to forward to the shop. they say that we know that is really
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dr. go uninsured, unabated against the palestinians, but they feel that this time that the army is sorry, because intending for an estimation in the jeanie refugee camp. we all know if he's a messenger and no one will get them. so there's a lot of fear here amongst journalists are being targeted. of course, this is not something you israel has already been targeting. john is going to be this in a different place. back army deliberately sure. to let them go because we want something on camera and that our turn of the tension of becoming a public opinion issue has the potential of setting up a world and them knowing what israel is doing. of course, is really army doesn't want them all the killing assuring blackledge has triggered
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international condemnation. the un special envoy for the middle east peace process demanded an immediate and thorough investigation. the us ambassador, israel also treated a call for a thorough probe into the circumstances of her death. israel for its part has proposed a joint inquiry, but the palestinian foreign ministry says it doesn't trust investigations by an occupying stays, adding they do not lead to a place other than quitting criminals and murderers. the harlots now bring in august and ramallah. we has no day a former algebra journalist and a colleague of sri and in paris. polian marvell books pass, and that reported that borders and investor, ritalin, casee, 5th, politician and also a member of the israeli parliament. committed welcome to the program. thank you so much for your time today, nor firstly my condolences. i know you are not only
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a colleague and but also a friend. so i'll start by asking you what you're feeling right now. anger, sadness, surprise. all of the above and more should in was a not any colleague. she was a beautiful human being journalist of impeccable professional standards of high integrity. she was a school if he will, in this tough line of work and an inspiration. i know too many young journalists, female and male throughout the 25 years of her career in palestine covering the story in palestine and also around the world. us sitting in western medicine. can i ask you about the response from the israeli side so far and, and how you feel about that? i won't get calls to send my condolences to the family, to the relatives,
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to the friends of friend of the late and day, various team day journalist. actually, and we visited the family today in the occupy and the issues. and then of course the sadness say profound allison this to in the joint placed and specifically in dash, the democratic form for a piece in the quality in the communist party in there. so i would like 1st and foremost to send my condolences and i must say that i was age because if you ask me out, is there any side sees it? unfortunately, it's not only that israel is the occupier and he's guilty in a serious of crimes against the palestinian people and today the mail there. and i wouldn't like to say, you know. busy less than that, it's not the death, it's the mer there of shooting. it's not only that the government of is on and the
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occupying forces are guilty and that they're also guilty in lying to the public and saying that this is the responsibility of the palestinians. and we're out of time of the time for many years. the lies of a spokesman of the israeli military of the occupying forces and of a politicians the minister of defense just a while ago in the plan of the committee, it stood and simply lied to the public and to the members of the class by putting the blame on the palestinian side, how much the world can tolerate our match. i appeal here to the you to the international community and say, don't it turn your head formed the tragic the that there by the seen him, people as been going to for ages. and today and the project the off,
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the family of surely. this is unbearable. that but the ease, early government lies the dwarf must be dawned. often you use the word like you, amanda. then i want to bring pauline and him because as we know and as we heard earlier, there was no confrontation going on at the time of the shooting. sharina was very clearly wearing her head blue press jacket. and we also know that the shooting continued from witnesses who were that they continued after she was on the ground. so no one could actually even approach at the help. now pauline, i want to ask you what went through your head when you had about the circumstances of her death. and thank you very much, sir for welcoming me. what is clear is that the urgent need for international independent investigation into the case it's of use that we don't have or elements to call it a murder to know exactly what has happened with the killing of the journalist for
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she targeted. what happened exactly was responsible. there are remorse, there are statements of the from everywhere it said, oh, views that are on the field in this zone. jeannine is extremely dangerous for journalist and they are often victims, greater victims of a shooting. and they say they experience jewelry dying and it's absolutely necessary that the truth is no one on the case. we are, these are mine at the reporters with order to bring our help to ensure responsibility for all those involving the killing are known and to bring them to justice. it's a question of and of impunity. it's a question of message that than to the other children is that are on top of been sad and that we can then are killing because it constitutes
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a serious breach of the geneva convention. and the resolution 2222 of the un security council on the protection of journalists. so the trust needs to be known for, for a family or friends, a. busy gleason as a 0, etc. so the, the other to least on the ground know what has happened and are predicted. well, i want to talk a little more about the targeting of the press and not just john less but specifically palestinian journalist as you alluded to that we've had about active target with care gas stung grenades even live ammunition. and we know that the u. n . is also documented a huge number of these now know as a form of john nest yourself. would you say that palestinian jolessa being treated differently from others while they are in the sense that they are targets
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as any of us who worked in the field? know when we work on the ground, wendy israeli. army is rating a city. we know that we are walking targets, our wearing of clothes that clearly marcus journalists are sent to mental value. if you will. we know that they will not shield us from israeli fire. we've seen that happen time and again and over the years, palestinians have bid several journalists goodbye, in fact, over 40 of them since the year 2000. so this is not an isolated incident. the impunity with which israel target's journalist, some of them documenting their own demise, their own targeting by is really fire or tank shells. as we saw our, our colleague for the shana, for example in garza, in 2008, all of those cases happened. the culprit was not a mystery,
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it was very clear that it was really forces responsible for their killing independent commissions of inquiry of the united nations of the human rights council. also concluded the same about other journalists like yes, there are more than others. and still no accountability and i think today more than anything else in addition to the rage, in addition to the tears and to be serious pain that everybody is feeling. this is a day job who of injustice if you will, that none of the journalists wanted to feel the they were reminded of just how cheap their lives are out there because they are operating under an occupation that is above. 1 international law above accountability that is shielded from even verbal reproach by many powerful countries. and they've seen this happen at time. and again, the fact that it's happened to such an icon to such
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a distinguished journalist makes it all the more painful. i do want to look a little more at forms of recourse and encounter ability for crimes like this because just last month, international and palestinian media group submitted a formal complaint with the international criminal court, accusing israel of war crimes against journalists, the committee to protect journalists as 24 journalists have been killed since 2002 now that figure doesn't even include sharina abruptly other press freedom advocates have reported higher numbers. israel systematically, targets journalist from outlets including al jazeera, several worth detained back in 2010 on board, a humanitarian fidela, heading to garza a year ago. this week and israeli air strike destroyed the offices of al jazeera and the associated press in garza. and then just a month, lisa israeli soldiers arrested out of the are a journalist, jabbar bardari as she covered protests in occupied east jerusalem. now by my understanding of body like the international criminal court can't prosecute individual cases. they have to look at war crime. so something that is widespread,
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something that is systematic, but we've seen documented again and again, different accounts of cases like this. now pauline, let me ask you, then do you think we've reached that threshold of widespread and systematic? well, it's clear that the conflict with red has had a big impact on police in july and the are subjected to iris, violence, destruction of equipment and legal proceedings. denial of the accreditation. what you said is absolutely clear. can i recall that when we published our annual index last week we are trying to. busy show that palestine has dropped from a 132 to rank 170, which means that it lost that 38 ranks and in the story out of 180 countries. so in the very last part of our index,
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because notably of the situation for pen enjoy least and the fact that they are commonly targeted and subjected to areas. yes, you recall the shooting or the a building, you know, last year i guess i building but obviously it's a extremely dangerous a science that john and i want to attend to this joint investigation that israel is talking about. do you have any confidence in how far and transparent that will be look a i would like to add to. ready the things that was said before, and so it isn't, it is because doing as we all know, ethnically and seeing about the gene and the occupation for many years. but at the same time israel wants to hide the crimes. it is responsible for who is going to be
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talking to those crimes. those will expose the crimes. basically, germany is and human rights organizations. and surprisingly, you can see that in the last few months, israel as being best security in human rights organizations. we all know about those seeks human rights organizations, but simeon human rights organizations that will be totally declared as a least organizations. this is one way to stop the exposure of a israel declines, and are those journalists so, and how do they do that a by a i do use, allowing them to enter specific areas. oh, by. i'll meet them physically, either by shooting them all by beating them. so obviously i have no confidence in any
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a organization or not to that day is out of the occupying system itself. i do need a police, a sheen bed, et cetera, et cetera. no confidence in the occupier. there should be an independent international committee and only depend any business on comedy to investigate because the fuser is the best way for swimming. you, including the guns against germany's including gulf goes of the nation of the late issuing. now we have seen very strong statements from a number of countries, ketta, the u. k, the u. s. all calling for a thorough investigation, but also condemning what's happened here. no, i know you're now working as well as a political analyst. can you give us a sense of how you feel, how far this diplomatic fallout could go, could they be consequences for israel?
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what regrettably, there isn't really a lot of confidence in how far these condemnations will go. we know that i was a 0 and that puts, i will follow through and pursue justice for should be in the but quite frankly the united states and, and other countries including the u. k. have been notorious for shielding israel from accountability. they have the pressure, the icpc in the past, not to accept any engagement with the referrals made to them about is israeli war crimes and other violations of their own statutes. we've seen time and again at the united nations, how these countries try to protect israel from any kind of even verbal rhetorical reproach, if you will. so the confidence really is quite shaken. i'm not sure that the journalists will take comfort in all of those statements knowing full well that again, we've been here before. we've seen this before,
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perhaps not as pronounced in terms of condemnation because again, shooting was not an ordinary journalist. she. she is an icon and i really, it's difficult to talk about her in the past tense still. but the, the political reality is so dismal, the political reality is so hypocritical and duplicity that, you know, it will take a lot to convince palestinians that the same standards will be applied to israel as those being applied to countries that systematically violate the rights of journalists. and, and target them, whether by killing them or by imprisoning them. israel has gotten away with it for, for far too long. there is a culture of impunity. it, no is, it can get away with it. and the only way that will change is if we see real consequences for these is really crimes. statements alone will simply not do it. you have over 50 years of statements like this. none of them have brought us closer
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to ending the occupation and to ending the this trend of israeli aggression against palestinian know you use the icon and we've had time and time again. just want a household name, serene was cross the region. i thought i'm curious, sitting in israel now do you think a killing like this could shift is really opinion. i'm afraid not. i'm afraid that the a majority in israel, it is brain washed in their. busy follows the opinions and the instructions of the military and the government, the government. so i'm not very optimistic about that. but i still believe that the and i'm, i'm sure we will continue our struggle within these already so sorry at the end of parliament. and i am very optimistic in the long run i,
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we really believe them. but the, in the short run, i'm just following what the up in the budget the they kind of happened today as a, this is in itself. i'm afraid that won't change much. oh no, now given the tensions the anger, the morning that we're seeing and as someone who knew sherry and not only as a journalist, but as a friend, and as someone who wanted to tell nuanced human stories. i, i'm curious in your mind, what would she really want to be her legacy? the love of the people that was so evident since the moment that she was shot and then pronounced that palestine mourns to re and sincerely people have come out to the street in every city. they've stopped the car carrying her
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body to bid her for well properly to pay their respect that she's owed shooting. you know, was someone who was not just credible in the eyes of palestinians. she was a trusted messenger, who spoke on their behalf, who told their story accurately and with integrity and with honesty, without any embellishment, without any exaggeration. she was elegant in every way and ground really in every report. regardless how, how dire the situation was and shooting has covered every major story in palestine . for the past 25 years, she seen her share of death and destruction and danger. and she never lost that grace that everybody knows her knows shooting to be. she will be remembered always fondly, someone who has inspired others to tell the truth, to follow in her footsteps, to speak truth to power without losing grace and to be accurate and professional,
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and extremely difficult not to like. no, thank you so much for sharing your reflections at this really tragic time. oh, thank you to all of our guests. no day pauline, at as marvel and efficacy, and thank you to for watching. remember, you can see this program again any time by visiting our website that's out there a dot com. and for further discussion, do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a great inside story for me and associate hey, and the whole team here and uh huh. bye for now. ah ah
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