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what it was like to live on the israeli occupation and him on many of those people who were there around where you were expecting her, her body to be carried that so that people could, could pay their respects and, and see her body in the caskets. but of course, she eventually arrived in a hurry. why did that happen? well, at st. joseph's of the hospital where she was being held overnight and there was a decision trying to be made by the palestinian. busy as he wanted to walk from shake jaw, where she was lying in the mood to the church, about 45 minute walk is ready, forces said no. so the moon has came out with a body on the caskets and knots. when these ready forces went in to the courtyard of the hospital and began to attack the people holding the casket, it was absolutely extraordinary. seems that though we saw shocking scenes by
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everybody in palestine, the witness them, this was supposed to be a dignified fear in all the moon is wanted to do was to carry heavy. busy so people on root could pay respects that wasn't allowed to happen, like you say, she was eventually bought in by car. but even when she arrived, as you saw in those pictures her was actually attacked by the israeli police for the simple act of raising a palestinian flag. and then throughout the day there were arrests being made. no, we've had the 33 people throughout the day, waxy injured in some of those machines. i arrested. but now we're at bates and you know where there is a wake going on when my colleague nick clark is a hosting. especially though al jazeera is doing, talking to many of her friends and her colleagues, but we're expecting more more people to come if it's anything like that. the memorial service took place. last art, we expect to see people, hey,
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on the streets, that's how much of an impact that she had. okay for now. thank you. around con, there in bethany, nina. we can turn to our correspondence, sammy's a don, who is life for us now in ramallah. sammy, how have people there in ramallah reacted to the extraordinary scenes we've seen today. the sheer number of people have come to pay their respect to serene and also the violence we've seen from israeli soldiers before have funeral o people here melly and have been watching everything very carefully. and i think it's fair to say, this is one of those historic important moments when you can see a symbol of, of international press freedom to become a legend. let me get the camera man to pass around the camera and see if i can explain that visually. to what i mean, that's the building she used to work out of. and that building as you can see, it's got shootings picture draped over. ready it's got the black flags on it, which are morning shooting. now, few, i forget mohammed, the count,
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man to pan over this way. fig. the g r. the mean? here you can see the black slides in the main sway here in ramallah, which have been put there to more and what the palestinians call a knack lead. the great catastrophe of 1948 when palestinians feel they were deprived of their statehood. these black flags are merging to day in the eyes of many people watching that funeral procession watching what happened when the israeli soldiers intervened. their seeing it from that perspective of. this is a legend that's being created in the continuing narrative of the palestinian struggle, a palestinian nation seeking it's freedom. now of course we know israeli, a thought is said they had to intervene in that funeral procession because the mourners were quote, disturbing public order. that's not the way this is being seen here, that one of those banners behind me says stop the double standards. and when you
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talk to people who are watching this, they say, sure, we're not surprised. we've come to expect anything from the occupation. but we are disgusted and they do ask about why is there double standards. they say we like ukrainians. we want our freedom like the. busy ukrainians we want a life without occupation. but why is there such a double standards when it comes to our striving and resistance of occupation compared to the international level of support for ukrainians? semi i the images we've seen today, shocking, provocative. they will have circulated on social media many more will have seen what happened. palestinians, of course, already so angry about the occupation. is there a concern that this will stoke the anger? things could get worse. we don't have covered this region over a very long time. one of my 1st observation will i got to ramallah was the feeling
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of tension every while i speak to of say, how to things look to you guys down. they just say tense. everybody feels very, very tense. i think that there has been a series of incidents of the killing of sharina just heightened that feeling of tension and sadly, you know, our focus is a lot to day on the killing of our colleague sharika. but it's not an isolated incident. if you look at what the international federation of journalist talks about, they're talking about the killing of $46.00 palestinian journalists since the year 2000. they're talking about the deliberate targeting of journalists and they're talking about no accountability. if you listen to what people like the secretary general of amnesty international agnes callum, i had to say. and she said, this is a sad and deadly reminder of what she calls these railey system. in her words, that kills palestinians, left to right. with impunity. believe, sammy's aiden,
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for now. thank you sammy there in ramallah for us. we can now turn to our correspond near a brim, who is live for us from the al jazeera bureau in ramallah inside the office where serene worked. good to see you. i've seen you of the course of the last few hours in her office going through sharon's diary, her calendar her office must be filled with her presence. it must be hard to imagine that she's gone. indeed, and we'll have these fixtures to remind her to remind us of her will have these pictures to remember her and her work. he office of al jazeera to day is empty. you've never seen it empty. every one is at the funeral. but even when they come back, her shoes are going to be so hard to fill. she's some one who has been remarkable, well respected. she was close to the people telling their stories. this is
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why you are seeing the poster is calling her the icon, the martyr, the voice of the truth, the voice of palestine. people have loved her, they were responded to her death to her killing by taking to the streets. and i've been lucky, let's say i've been honored to have worked with her and met her. i've also been trying to find some closure by looking at her diary, perfect hers, her calendared. this is her diary of april in most of it says jeannine genie genie, the place that she was killed while covering. this is also a one note i found it's her studying hebrew. and she was proud that she was learning, getting to know more what these really dear was doing. even when someone like said
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in was that veteran, that knowledgeable, that wise, she was still eager to learn. so this is a reminder, this is the legacy she leaves behind. she want us to keep fighting on. and we will keep telling the story what incredible legacy init abraham for now are joining us there for him by the office where serene worked. thank you. let's turn now to al jazeera senior. political analyst, mar, one, sorry, joins us from london such an emotional, few hours. i personally didn't even know serene, and yet i feel emotional about the story. what do you make of the events of the last few hours? the shocking images of serene coffin nearly falling to the ground as moon as carrying it. we're beaten by israeli soldiers. sadly, for many people, those are the images that they will remember from today. not putting serene to rest
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. absolutely. there was something quite surreal about what happened today. i guess we spoke a lot about the actual killing of our shooting a barclay, and we'll talk about that in sort of a reasonable terms about the getting of journalist. there's precedence to that. we remember the kidding over, i know, daniel pearl and pakistan and, and, and maria called it in syria and you know, journalist where are killed empty. yeah. you know, during, during the, doing their duty as it were and, and we were talking about sharing of actually in that sense. but after the attack, after the raid on her house yesterday afternoon and the attack on her funeral today, i think it's clear that israel is not just treating with this as a, as a, as a normal day of repression on oppression. there's something about crossing into the abyss, because otherwise it's not justifiable,
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it can be explained really in any real terms that we understand. why would you attack a funeral? a peaceful funeral in a courtyard? is unheard of unprecedented as someone who has followed and has watched many of such events and cases and conflicts throughout the world. this is a 1st and a 1st, not just any 1st that there is something about this, this the, the, the, the said, the stick or violence in the way applied by the israeli soldiers against more nerves. that exposes a kind of a and in humanity about the way the israeli killing machine has turned so irrational, so violent that requires not security analysis or political analysis for that matter. it requires psychological analysis. i think israel least to get on the
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couch, i think is really the soldiers need to get on the couch. i think stein, for serious psychological analysis of this decision making of this a heartbeat state. my one is pretty clear that if things are to change, the world needs to pay attention, but is the world paying attention? i mean, in the few hours before i came on, i was sitting and watching out 0 and, and costing my eye on the other news channels to see what they were reporting. and i couldn't see a single other international news channel cover. the scenes we've been witnessing today. if, if, if the international community doesn't pay attention, doesn't hold anyone accountable. will there be any change this i think the, the attention ah, especially international media, especially western media. we usually, when we talk about the mortgage, the one shall international media. i tend to have short attention span, right?
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i mean, even in places like afghanistan and iraq, they've left, i don't know many years ago. and when it comes to palestine, i think they are interested when he's right in these are killed. they are interested when they're i fax on his way, the civilians. they are not as interested when there are attacks on palestinian civil. and that's why, although it's becoming almost, i would say more ring when fellow citizens talk about double standard. it's all could only be explained by double standard. there's a double standard when it comes to 0, there's double gun the with comes to you. great on russia, there is a double standard period. if this act was carried in ukraine, america would have called it killing. it would have blamed russia when it's happens in his or an ah, we know, we'll see. we need to investigate. israel needs to investigate. so there's double standards for short,
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and yet i would say the following. the international public opinion has been changing to the better. it's been a slow process, but i think when it comes to the court to public opinion, israel has long lost its case. the problem is not with international public opinion . it is where the governments and governments are pressured other than public opinion when it comes to foreign policy. so when it comes to washington, london, paris, even berlin, there are other dynamics at play, red on foreign policy when it comes to their relationship with israel to their appeasement of the right wing, almost neo fascist government in israel to day. that is giving these orders that are carrying these policies, allowing for those sorts of ah, units like that divine unit in janine, like the sampson unit that's been carrying assassinations. and that does lead to
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the assassination of journalists. it is the social policies that are responsible for the death or soldiers. i think the international public opinion is more and more aware of that aware of apartheid and palestine. unfortunately, a good number of governments, including out of governments, continued to be complicit with the israeli crimes in palestine at turning attention back to serene cast. today is the batch serene and her legacy. have you been surprised by this? she is to rent the feeling the most in the many thousands of people who turned out to pay respect to her. it is amazing, isn't it? i was just watching some of the images from jerusalem. seems like for a moment that it was sharina hor, restored the out of identity to the city because we talk a lot about alex a mosque, but we remain within that real mom of alex a mosque. but he is, she was being carried on the shoulders through the streets next to the old wall and
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jerusalem into the old christian cemetery. and you get to the feeling that hear ya . once again, jerusalem is out of jerusalem. his medicine and the whole are one. i don't know what to quote this information about jerusalem being an eternal city of israel and so so forth. is exposed once again to be a lie that this is the capital of palestine. and that sharina would restore that not only to one aspect or one particular part of the community, but all the community christians and muslims, and others, women and men. because sharina represented and her caddick that and had worth more than one personality. she was a woman, a woman who worked in a excuse, my expression for a long time considered to be a man's profess. she was a whore correspondent and she did it better than all men for that's for sure. but
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clearly she began spanish for a lot of women, young women on old women women who wanted to work and to be equal and to count and be counted. and she was, she is. but she was also a patriotic palestinians who was always who was able to be a successful jordan's a very successful journalist. she was a kind human being as well and every one to remember her to be that kind. and that's why i spoke about the killing of kindness yesterday because that's what it was. it wasn't just a normal cry. and as i was saying earlier by daniel pearl and baxter on the bug, mary corvette in syria destination of journalists, why they do a job? except when comes to serene, she was in her own homeland, she was her homeland. she is her homeland. she is her people and for 25 years she was coveting had own people. born in jerusalem, heading from bethlehem,
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working under my law, killed engineering. here you have it. my one and i'm gonna make a point that i think you alluded to it that the palestinian cause has of course united the army. well the arab people and yet in the last year we've seen arab countries that have normalized relations with israel. what role has that play? do you think in the impunity? we've seen and we since ab. yes. that's a very important question. if the think it's an important point to make that while some of these arab regimes, we're saying that we are normalizing with his own order to have away with israel in order to maybe to put pressure on israel. what is clear to day is that they are in complicity with israel occupation of palestine. and i bet you that they are utterly embarrassed to day and yesterday, and the last few weeks and months watching israeli crimes and in and occupied
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theaters. and by the way, not just arab regimes, it's also that little, insignificant at a party that remains part of these are the government or supports as a government, despite the continued persistent attacks and crimes against the palestinian people . what they say is they need to support this government, otherwise they're gonna get an attorney, a whole government. so what you have here today is this complex called nathan yo bennett the, the present prime minister of israel wants to be like nathan yo and even worse. and hence he needs to carry even bigger crimes than that. now it would in order to prove his worthiness to the prime minister of israel and yeah, of the small out of party that continues to support the is there, the government, even it is the guarantee now for the existence as any government because they don't want another nathan yell, unfortunately, the occupation of palestine has radicalized. these rainy political map that today
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is really prime ministers. all the new compete along himself who is worse, who can kill palestinians more. who can humiliate palestinians more? who can build illegal settlements more? who can make a bigger alliances with more out of regimes while the occupation continues. who can humiliate the western governments by continuing to lie to them while carrying the colonial policy that we see in israel palestine? this is a sad situation, so it's not just a tragedy in palestine. it's a sad, sad scene in israel itself while israel is becoming more and more like a, a, get us some state, a fascist state, and our part aids fate. one that is recognized why international human rights organizations like human rights watched like amnesty international even by the you and special report her on palestine. it's are financed by its own human rights
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organization. leading ones like bit said im recognizing the fact that it is on our part aid state not only in the west bank and gaza, but also in israel proper. that is read is leading and i'll part said system between the jordan river and them into tyranny. and see, these are becoming facts that could not be contained, could not be censored, could not be crippled and certainly could not be attacked with veterans or there's really soldiers. this is now an internationally known fact. it is the reality on the ground in palestine and palestinians. it doesn't matter how many times, apparently you go after the dignity they're going to continue to raise that flag. they're gonna continue to resist their occupiers because they must. okay, for now my one beserra. we're going to leave out as our senior political analyst speaking to us from london. for now we can not return back to net clerk who is in occupied east to her slim make
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a low promotional day to attend with immediate family. and it's still gauge on we're at a community with sure, a live a getting to drift away now. but friends with lisa, i'm responding to a little bit earlier and tell them to pay their respects to stay with the team. surely and being laid to rest in those careful scenes ready outside the hospital when the cost is being carried. and these ready soldiers stepped in and started to interfering with the procession with the costumes were now joined by donna b to watch login. speaking to you for a bit today. tell me 1st of all,
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did you 1st met true long time ago? very, very long time ago. about 20 years ago when she was 1st working foreign. she's in her early days. at the time she had just been covering the massacre in genie and she came out as you need can was devastated by what she saw. i'll never forget her. her coverage during, during the, during the mass virginia and her coverage ever since. she has a way she had a way of humanizing every single story and instead of looking at it from the perspective of the comings and goings of presidents and prime minister, she covered this occupation for through the lives of pluto. i'll miss them. i was absolute emphasis on what she was city and i can't say this enough. she had a equality to her voice that that exuded compassion because she, herself was a very compassionate person and her reporting reflective as well. what about the
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last time you saw? i sadly just saw her on thursday was just a few days before she was murdered on thursday of last week. and at the time it, we were commemorating nego and shitty. and unlike other journalists, she was a journalist who always believed in going out. and i'm telling exactly what was happening to palestinian. she was one of the few journalists to go out and to actually cover this march, which was attended by over $30000.00 people as we marched out into towards a village. the israel had destroyed in 1948. this is an annual event. now, it was the 25th, a time that was done. and shitty was there to cover it. and that was the last time i saw. and what about, what can we take from this day? so much has happened since i'm not sure even was killed and now she's being funny. later if i say anything, we can take the stage with shitty and in life,
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a bright light, she shot a bright light on israel's crimes and shitty and injected the same to day. we saw exactly how it is that the israelis tried to control everything from preventing chance from her venting the flag from big waves. from preventing people from carrying her coffin from preventing a procession in the streets. we saw how they beat pallbearers. we saw that they, that they almost dropped the casket because of the beatings that the pallbearers were enduring at the hands of the israelis. it was in life that she put it. she was excellent at making sure that the world understood what it means to live as a palestinian and she did the same in her death as well. having interesting conversations metaphysical ditches now with the school analysts, mom shaw. busy and they were talking about this idea that, you know, we've, we've had extensive coverage all day long. if you look at other media networks and
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it's been pretty limited to benefit. and if the rest of the world can, nothing gets done. i'm not going to be so pessimistic. i do believe that to shitty and had a great power as, as an excellent journalism is an excellent human being. and i'd like to think that all of this energy that has been, that has come around her murder will lead to something i'm. i'm certain that we're going to continue to see condemnation by journalists and by others about israel's actions. and i really just hope that we begin to see some deeds as well. i really want to see israel held accountable for this. i would love to see the case before the international criminal court or seem to have i would love to see sanctions imposed on as well. what do you think? it's just a criminal sanctions? first of all, i see is that gonna produce anything meaningful? israel is going to do its best to try to stop it. it's done this in the past, but can it can't, does it have to get potential is certainly does. and that's why israel's afraid of it. that's why it's been doing everything possible to crush it. but we don't even
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need the international criminal court. there can be sanctions and sanctions don't necessarily need to be on a state of ohio. i think that when the people lead or leaders will follow and this is why it's so important for people who love shady, who, who were touched by her for them to be pushing forward the boycott, the dad divestment and the sanctions. to what fundraising told people across the board across the board, i don't think that israel should be allowed to get away with this murderous regime that has been doing for the past nearly 75 years. it's the fact that it has been given a blank check by the, by the world. and it's actually being funded by the united states. is the part that is the most alarming to me. instead of the world and serene was a yes. exactly. so of them giving israel money, perhaps it's time to start putting sanctions on israel so that his with israel money. but i don't have a lot of faith in the united states and in the system of the united states. but i
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do have faith of people. i do have people and i think that if he work hard, something will come out of this already the world. nick is beginning to see that just as an apartheid regime. 20 years ago, palestinian and jose were declaring it an apartheid regime. it's taking 20 years at the world's catching up and the fact that we now see that people are opening their eyes and with shitty and jeff, she's again forced people to open their eyes. i think something was going to come right. sheila tell us about the orbit of what you do here and how this might perhaps help you change my. my work is a little bit different. my, my work focuses on what it's like to live as a palestinian under this military rule. everything from home demolition to land confiscation to all of these various things. but that being said, the problem here is that that as a lawyer here you have to work within these railey system and the israeli system is rigged. it's
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a system that is designed to preserve israel superiority. it's designed to preserve the israeli demographic majority. i use racist and there hasn't been a case where they have destroyed settlements, where they have sanction themselves for, for home demolitions and so on. this is why when we're looking at these ideas of investigation, we're effectively asking a criminal to investigate itself. and that's what is like to be a lawyer in this environment, is that we're putting out, we're trying to plug our fingers into the holes. but there's a big deal, and the dam is about to burst and that's was like to be working here when it comes to shitty. and she was somebody who was always focused on, on those little there was a temp to try to besides those goals. and what this occupation means and how it is, how it is experienced by palestinians on a daily basis. she didn't just cover home demolitions, she went in and she does. she talked about what it, how it impacted families,
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what it meant for them, where they were gonna go. so people were just numbers. they had faces, they had names, they had stories, and she was very good at capturing data. we'll leave it. thank you so much for talking to us once again, and we're going to swap you out. and by going to bring in another guest here while we do that, you can see about just not people were just arriving. as i said earlier that it was coming to an end, but there's still more more people. finally, in all the time i know front anela new friend and journalist from experience and you work as a journal, tell us about what your relationship with serene was and what she meant to you. she's a family member today, i love the story, not just a friend. um in 2005, i really lost my sister. and ever since the family adopted shooty in which she had her own couch in my room, she have her own equipment. when she comes to sleep over, i need to play my room. i usually have a very messy room, but i have to play in it because she panics she's been oh city for
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a file to day i lost my system. and what legacy do you think sharing leave today? yeah. what we saw is the vision of palestine being free of jew islam being free. no one ever thought that we're gonna see such we were like, we didn't sleep for 3 days because we were worried all the time that they was good nat for from us. that that was our biggest fear, like getting her to her last destination was the targets of everyone in here. i'm not burying her next door. mom and dad was like, she always talks about how she's an orphan because she lost her mom and dad and how she it's always worried about being the loan that i put on a time every time that we.

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