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a muted response from the us. and marine con is near the hospital, where is reading forces attacked mornings. there's only really one word that anybody is using. certainly palestinian is using amazon, devastated, devastated, though sharina barclays, a funeral was not a dignified one. that it was actually a fraught with violence from the israeli forces. those pictures that we've seen from the hospital not far away from where i'm standing right now. just stop by hill over there. where are mourners? the pall bearers were actually attacked as they carried sharon's casket out into the court yard of the hostile them where she left the hospital. at that stage, they were in the courtyard, and these really forces moved him to 7 fine masters, devout to reinforce russia's economic and political isolation and the joint statements. they also said that continue supplying weapons to ukraine. they also
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. hosta killing al jazeera journalist, sharing a block lay these wiley, army beats warners during her funeral, as she is latter rise. how can palestinians use her death to highlight israel's crimes? and can they win the battle for global public opinion? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i am hashem, abala. a funeral has been held at
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a roman catholic church in the occupied east. jerusalem for veteran al jazeera journalist stood in a black lab. she was killed by his rally forces on wednesday. she then was buried next to the grave of her parents of the mount zion protested cemetery. she was shot in the hat in the occupied west bank while covering grades by his ride, his soldiers in janine. but before the funeral service is waiting for, says attack those carrying her body. the mourners struggle to hold on to her coffin and is ready. so just charged them while they were trying to bring it from a hospital to the hearse. the day before her body had been taken to law, where state memorial was held for her or the presidential compound israeli forces have carried out more ways in janine in the occupied west bank was sure when was killed, several people have been injured. israel has been carrying out near daily rate
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since march, with dozens killed and arrested during the operations. it says its actions are a response to palestinian attacks. ah, lettering in our guests from occupied east jerusalem. one year, no sabres, a professor of international law. i tell what's university from turn is francesca albanese is your you and special repertoire on the occupied palestinian territory. and affiliates, color of georgetown university and from tel aviv archival. dar is a political analyst and contributor for these riley newspaper. her. it's welcome to the program or more near. now that sharina black la has be led to rast, the al jazeera channel, the e u, the policy and authority, the united nations continued to say that those who killed her must be held accountable. do you see that happening? any time soon,
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i have to be optimistic despite the fact that i am genuinely not optimistic, that the history has shown us that many crimes that have taken place in the occupied athenian that i have not been that the perpetrators have not been held accountable so far and this is the sad that he entity and this is because of a continuous unlimited support for is it i and from its friends and partners who might sometimes get the size or some of the actions that is that i conduct but at the same time shield is that i and from any sanctions, as well as a friend from supporting a palestine, an attempt to seek justice at the international criminal court. nonetheless. and i have to continue to be optimistic on the human rights defender. we are working continuously on documenting human rights violations, analyzing these human rights violations, according to international law, and speaking to the international community,
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asking it to intervene in the way that they would intervene in any other situation . i mean, we, we can see how the western countries have interacted now with the invasion of ukraine. and they have done that, you know, they have conducted sanctions and they're taking a lot of measures in order to convince russia to step back from this invasion. and this makes sense, and the same should be implemented also in palestine. ok, and of course, you know, yes. let me go to francesca. now, after the outpouring, if emotions from palestinians, barley is behind the need to start a genuine investigation into what happened to city and a block land tackle the need for putting an end to impunity is where this is something that has been occurred by international human rights organizations, do you have any plan to address both issues here, why it's violations targeting of policy and journalist and impunity?
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oh yes, you need 1st let, let me put in context this key because i think this is also part of my, of my work on the key and wounding and meaning of join us is our wife's friend, a series of human rights violations that take place. you know, to palestine, there are 20 journalist who have been killed. hundreds injured over the past, the past to 2025 years. and the level of accountability is very poor. so in that these ads on the level on community for the way spread the targeting civilians in general. and you know, this is what i investigate what i will investigate on a regular basis. and what i, what i wish to add is that this level, while it is part and parcel,
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or even avoidable, is part and parcel of your to patients there need to do to patient. it takes a lot of abuse and violence to keep the population of palestine without writing and subjugated. and yes, what are we looking to eat as part of the my mandate including or how the vital role of the journalist is undermined. especially at the moment where is rainy in palestinian civil society voices are targeted with increasing repressions and there is no way otherwise to understand the reality on the ground. if no one talks about that talks about that, ok, for how would you characterize the way these, right, a government has been handling the aftermath of the killing of shooting of walker
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and the international backlash? well, i think i think that the both sides cynically taking advantage of this tragedy shearing is bad. i knew her personally, i admired her work and i'm very upset. is that the president of the senior? so if he margin was deaf to blame it on his well befall is rarely even started. the inquiry on the other hand is, well, i was rushing to blame it on the terrorists. i think that if sharina was not a famous journalist and the international community follow this event closely, i think that she would, we added to a long list of fatalities that were said before part of the
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a few patients. i believe that in no time you are hero israelis, blaming the international community for devin standards. i just checked, and i'm sure that this will be mentioned that the in the last 2 months for teaming journalists were killed in the ukraine, the war. and do you know their names? this is what they will ask. you know, you don't. so it's part of the m p. 's wally, be the as anti semitism and so on. on the other hand, a member of news, lately cabinet, who was the spokesman over the army? not one try a coach for an independent investigation because he said, that is my last is credibility. in such occasions, francesca, as an expert in international law working for the n is the un dealing now with your mandate is about
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a document in human rights by is addressing them in the policy you occupy territory . give us a sense about how to move forward, what are the tools that you have to bring about the case and what, how will you be handling it as far as these way the government is concerned because they seem to be very much now in denial about and irresponsibility. i look, i think it doesn't matter if they are in denial or not. i think i agree with has been said that the pressure because of the shooting was the pressure on the concerned part is israel is very high at the moment. so it's all expected to extend corporation 20 independent investigation. i don't think that it should be in the lead of this investigation for one simple reason because what is needed is independence. transparency
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rieger that so far these re, your investigative system has shown store a shortfall in the justice system in general. it still has been confirmed, but the reason a decision is supreme court on the case on a yeah he's, i'm sorry to say part and parcel over over maintaining and policy your to patient. so what is to happen is that independent experts are given the possibility to investigate and then must inform the investigation of the overall situation or style that he's being carried out by the i c. c, prosecutor, a which we don't know much yet. but what i can tell when it concerns concerns
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journalist just recently international federation of daughter of journalists as meeting a formal complaint to the cord on the name of the name of for journalist with together with the bombing of to be your power for, for a prom investigation, so this is the of course of action. i mean, we'll see when it, do you see this as a moment to bring about the issue of the killing of manager odyssey and journalists over the last few years and by the senior authorities saying that they are adamant about the need to take the care of a barclay to the international criminal court. well, it's very important that at the end of the day, the international committee court fixed responsibility on the case of shooting broccoli. we have been waiting now for
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a long time for the international criminal court to intervene in the way that it is supposed to intervene. and now it has confirmed that it has jurisdiction. and we expect the international committee court to start taking action. and, but also it's very important to say that is that it has been over the years not cooperating with different human rights operations that are ongoing by, for example, the united nations, the procedures and all the like. for example, all the special report dues of the occupied palestinian territory. and like a guests for breakfast that had been easy and have not been allowed to enter the palestine am. and this is something that has to change if it has any claim of seeking a truth, then they have to allow that independent experts like head on or to like that. and that, and good commission of inquiry that was founded last year by their not admissions.
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they should be allowed to enter, they should be allowed to meet with civil society. they should be allowed to investigate on their own and find evidence. but unfortunately, over the years we have been seeing that it has like every possible and you and procedure that seeks to find truth or seeks to find justice and at the same time. what is very unfortunate is that many of the states in the word, for example, that of b annuity in the united kingdom, united states and others are boycotting item 7, which is an item in the human rights council and meetings and sessions in geneva with that issue of but a stand is being discussed at 3 times a year and they are by cutting it. and this is very sad while they might condemned in some cases or austin is as actions as they are acting in the international adena in a very different way. all right, that does not consist with it was a kiva. oh, you get a somehow
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a sense that these ready government is more concerned about not losing the p r. war as far as the aftermath of the kiddos that i walk let is concerned, because from day one they said, no, it's not us. though they said we blame it on these right. if i to, i want about his indian fight is now they seem to be somehow backtracking saying that we're investigating a case where the fire may have come from is where the soldiers yeah, and the good news is that unlike the previous governments had to buy an attorney now and there radically right now we have loosen in policy a month. so a boss who is still a member of the coalition as well as the merits and the labor party and the prime minister been it has to take them into consideration and likely have mr. knox mankind. the minister that i mentioned before, he is
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a member of the labor party. so they have to look into this from a political angle. on the other hand, if they will allow an impartial investigation by independent inquiry. like if you remember what happened was which goes on in 2009, that he was born quoted by israel. and then he regretted that minutes he was tempted to join this community, had this committee. so i believe that at the end of the day, i mutually investigation is not possible joined israeli palestinian investigation because just imagine do really expect to allow on a scene in to interview israeli soldiers. on the other hand, the israeli members of the committee will interview members of the come on the day consider hours. so yes is while is more concerned about p
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r. then before is what i'm now has to take into consideration also it's relationships was cut towel. taco was saying, major role in try to quiet guys in the past and be around a quote. so it has got something to lose. on the other hand, we don't see functional, see, israel is enjoying complete impunity in the best case, even if it's ready, soldiers will be found accountable for this. i don't want to be a disciplinary process. i remember that when i did this kind of inquiries, it ended up was almost nothing. they will say that this is a was own. and they generally are well part of the the whole game and they pay the price. there's other civilians. ok francesca,
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you've just heard what i gave her husband saying, and when you look at it, the potential for army generals will prosecute the own soldiers for the case of or should in a block law, are really slim here. and the u. s. the e u. the u. k. generally speaking, have done their best to shelve any united nations report about human rights violations in the policy and occupy a territory. so the outcome looks samba in a way or another. yes, i see that argument and i also agree with that. you know, the problem is addressing the root cause of this situation. there are 2 things to, to comments. i like to make here on the one hand and the case of shearing must investigated. as we have said, independently, on the other hand,
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he's teaching a lesson violence on an impunity only brings to violence. so in the abuse we need to zoom out from, from the specificity of the situation. and i really encourage the actors, you know, the political actors, you mentioned to stop using an ad hoc, an emergency you many time in wrestling when approaching the mission of palestine. the situation occupies palestine is not debt to the emergency. if, if, unless we have a standing as a man made one except political reality dominated by one spread abuses and violence that requires a huge and political action. starting with the dismantlement of the patient and the supplement enterprise,
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i see no other way to go to get out of the passage then discussing how to ok and why are just running in circle we're we do understand the reason why there's this squabble over the semantics of the investigation, but don't you see that ultimately, if you have is rarely experts, a law with policy in experts with an oversight from the united nations, the u. s. that could be the ideal outcome. i don't see the reason why this is needed and isn't it knows who shook the bullet already and it has the capacity just in the same way that we see that is that it has the capacity to find any palestinian they want. if they even posted something on facebook, or if they added a weapon or whatever and they would go into it. but it's tinian cities and villages in order to edit them and prosecute them at regardless of any difficulties and
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obstacles in their way. why is this? is the inventions not intelligent enough to find their own and criminals and why? when they find these criminals, they don't prosecute them? it's because of the original problem. it's because of the way the system is built, the system is built to protect. it's put additions to protect it's a military men and that to make sure that they are not prosecuted because see is human rights organizations? ab athenian is that a, hailey and international have concluded that this is an apartheid regime. and that it is actually a dominating the palestinians, and it is creating and organizing its legal system in a way engineering and sneak system in a way that would eventually make sure that the palestinians are kept dominated. actually, we could see this in the way that funeral was held today,
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and the police was just running after people and, and hitting people with, with this, fix it, the people who are actually carrying that the coffin of the monster. and it's part of their domination. they want to show us that they are in control, that people cannot express their feelings, they cannot express that anger. they cannot get punished indian flag and they cannot at be sat in the way that they want to be said. okay, so this is, this is, that is him and that is the problem with that. his iep is actually it's laws and it's legal system and it's court and this is something that has been concluded. so, okay, want to find just sure they can do it immediately. let's all forward we have as you have very few other issues to tackle here. akiva, do you think that the very nature of these rarely governing coalition is one of the reasons that will decide the outcome of what happens next? because the prime minister is really pretty much concerned about give an indication
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that a concession to the palestinians about it in a block that could be seen as a sign of weakness. absolutely. his is hands are dyed one hand by members of his own quality jamita, or who are threatening to bring down the coalition to government. and as i mentioned before, by the muslim party, a, by my so boss, actually my would have us is not part of this game. they don't take him into consideration. but i think that the context that these when he's see this event is that it happened few days after 3 israelis were killed, were butchered civilians, innocent bye to put a scene in youngster, probably coming from jenny. so i'm not going to justify what happened in janine
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and the killing of assuring, but trying to analyze the israeli point of view. if you do a public poll, if bennett god is doing it, what you will find out, the israelis care more about the threat of terrorism coming mainly from refugees from the janine refugee k. then what happened to hearing on this is, this is very unfortunate because this is a vicious circle that is not going to answer. i don't, i'm really afraid, francisco a less than a minute. these righty, governments made his clear when your name was 1st presented to take over the post of the united nations and opportunity for the policy occupied territory. accusing you of being a biased person, the americans, as we said, and along with the vin, to not with some key players,
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the europeans and the u. k. have always been very skeptical about the before. so over a human rights council. how, how are you planning to move forward? well, let me, let me share a consideration i have on the momentous reality we are leaving also because of the tragic word that it's taking place in ukraine. this situation has given me a sense of hope in the fact that in these countries like those who have criticized the human rights counselor, a se, item 7 of the human rights counselors are getting is well. well, it gives me the sense that this country still believe that, you know, in an international order premise, the international law. because at the moment everyone is an expert about the human rights and international. my and i am not being violated in your brain. i see. and
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incredible blind, the disconnect between, between these arguments, these are holding. thank you, rightly so the international law to pan is fine. so i eventually boils down to, to political. will that be my whole course? what i see, what i say is basically it based on international humanitarian law enforcement or it can be challenge absence. not my intention will have to live with a k valdez francesca, but as a one year, no say, but i really appreciate your insight. thank you. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a jane size for you can also join the conversation on twitter. i would 100, is that a j insights 40 from the house about about on the entire team here in bo? bye for now.
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matter why you call hand al jazeera will bring you the news and current affairs that mattie out is there. ah, hello, i'm adrian finnegan, in doha, with a summary of use on al jazeera, israel's police chief has ordered an investigation. it's the actions of the officers who disrupted the funeral procession of al jazeera journalist. shaheen our claim is ready, forces attacked mourners carrying her casket. that storm widespread condemnation, but a muted response from the u. s. l. 0 journalist. surely an elbow. our claim has now been laid to rest and occupied east jerusalem. 3 days after is ready, forces shot and killed her thousands gathered for her funeral on.

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