Skip to main content

tv   News  Al Jazeera  May 15, 2022 5:00pm-5:31pm AST

5:00 pm
o'clock and all and it symbolic because tel aviv sits on the destroyed village, palestinian village, very symbolic off today and the accommodation and our students, the palestinians inside there's on went to comedy that another group is really, it stood as came with a, with a slogan, happy knack, but can you imagine the sickness, the sickness, the denial of the busy, they do not even want to allow us to remember our own capacity office. they deny us our own paint. this is the situation that the world has got to report and international governments. i've got to act because we are 2nd thought of statements and some of the stiffness of even wrong. so the government of the okay, what i serve is concerned about the death of shaheen and others. and obviously the government to investigate. and what does that tell you? what does it's, it's a absorbing the very clear responsibility of taking action. all right, some of that, thank you very much ambassador for talking to us here on the rooftop. while earlier
5:01 pm
my colleague me there is a him, she spoke to the palestinian prime minister mohammed shittier, and he says the attorney general is investigating chevy ins, killing, and now all evidence will be shared. he says, with the international criminal court took some time at stay. thank you for joining us. we're here because it's neck betty, and we've been seeing more lands being stripped out of palestinians. we're seeing them in refugee camps not only fighting to go back, but also struggling to stay. do you still as a politician, believe that there is a by ability for the 2 state solution while we're ethically us on the ground, there is a systematic destruction of those states. as you rightly said, israel has always intended to destroy a possibility of 2 states. israel has fragmented but as seen on territory, gazette is under siege, jerusalem is and worn city. a. hebron is fragmented between each one. each to the rest of the west bank is divided between area area be area. see,
5:02 pm
this is all designed to really destroy a future possibility of a state of palestine, not to states, but in, but the good are to destroy any possibility over. but as soon as that, what do you make of the current us administration and how can you push for a political process today for the 1st time since 1948 by the stimulus in historical palestine are more in numbers by 2 100000 people, ballast dinners, out of 6900000 people is riley jews are 6700000 people. so this is a very important development when it comes to demography. geography is that the you, the israel is, will never, is still learned from underneath our, our foot. and our feet, this american administration has been calling for 2 states, which is, which is a good one because statement. the question is, how do we preserve those 5th? it is not enough to talk about 2 states. israel is system ethically destroying to
5:03 pm
us this and we are feeling the whole world that this systematic destruction need to be stopped. one of the things you mentioned is telling the world what's happening. our colleague, beloved cheering barkley has been killed by israeli forces white while she was trying to tell the world the story. what is happening in palestine. we know that there are offered to push for the file to be at the i c. c, at the international criminal court. how are you going to ensure that justice is going to be served toward the general of bunstein is investigating the killing and that's estimation of shooting. and i think in a week time he will conclude his findings. we will make sure that everything get evidence, all witnesses, a professional file when directed, and barbara, by very professional people at will be on the table of the i, c, c. and it would be shared would, but also relevant about is there, is there no,
5:04 pm
for sure. that they themselves were the ones who could shoot in a box, then to rush and community should hold is responsible and this valley should not get away with the matter. thank you very much, dr. howard stay a prime minister of palestine for joining us here at delta 0. well, only i spoke to agnes cullum, all the secretary general of amnesty international call to remember she was also the un special repertoire on extra judicial killing. i began by asking how much of an isolated incident is sharing killing a few more of a funny kicks of excessive use of force, which has resented into done by the skin being killed since the beginning of the year. amnesty international, i have documented 8 children, a pool or so
5:05 pm
documented 22 by the 16 and killed just for the most of a porn. 14 former, most of march, a tutorial and 70 people were killed over the last year. and a p. s. condition of violence because of the best came in addition to the 18 people were killed by armed groups and you did yours or 948 borders. so the key a situation of violence, additional violence, existing use of force. 9 by me is id or forces and no attempt to address the root cause of the violence as a stay close occupied paypal. how wide all the bare options for address when they feel that they have been wronged by these riley, military occupation authorities. all their relatives are upset about the killings
5:06 pm
of their relatives. what options do they have? what rights do they have is unoccupied? people, you know, you, you put your finger on one of the most turn, disturbing finding of my mission there in january about report what struck me when i was in his right ending by this time or so he taught auctions and that he got up how swear or home, nothing eager speaking could lead to just the thought of seeing a causes where we're talking about protecting your houses, affecting your lens, not being expend forward places that you, i'm hoping by for decades or finding just the full killings, accessing a house, you know, none of those legal routes are currently working in the fire and
5:07 pm
the political holds, as we know, it is a semi space activity. nothing happening on that front, whether it's domestically or internationally and the political steps taken with him . he's right at the moment i actually was sitting, including the most recent adoption overall, which comes to the right of the brightest in store. it's funny, i'm not mentioning the tearing settlement in occupied territories. so you are putting your finger on the key issue right now that there is no avenue for redress for the by the people. and i think that he's, it's not a justification. i told you was a runners. but if we want to explain it to find a good courses,
5:08 pm
we don't need to look further than that. the fact that they all know no piece legal a 2 to send me an indictment of these righty authorities as a team. i'm environmental, the international community and just to clarify some of those key points, which i think you were mentioning that from the perspective of international law, international humanitarian law settlements like faith hill here behind me that illegal, right? the application of israeli law on an occupied territory. that's also not allowed. they don't have jurisdiction, correct? those occupied territories are absolutely unlawful. they are, you know, court cases, they are, they are certainly did you know, including by
5:09 pm
a political life within the commercial community. but so far, those fusion lead to very or change in fact, or we're seeing an increase in dore gold talking about occupied territories. but we also need to focus on one of the most if not the most important occupied point in all of this east jerusalem. although that wasn't occupied by israel in 1948. it was occupied by israeli 967. the clock is standing by for us. it's math. escape nick. often the flash point, the beating half of tension in all of this struggle. right? absolutely right. i mean, yes, said damascus gate very much a symbol of the palestinian struggle. one of the many entrances into the old city.
5:10 pm
the old says he at the hall to the very heart of the conflict to palestinians. regarded of course, as the capital of that future state, these ratings have already and next it and they regarded as part of their capital, which is something which of course, the palestinians totally reject which is rejected by pretty much all of the international community. apart from the americans, it's been a gate head since roman times. if you go through that you couldn't listen quarter. this is the route by which was in the jews and christians go in to reach the holy sites. look down there. you can see, and israeli police post very much at a mark of the stamp of sovereignty that they are trying to put on a place at the palestinians. very much regard as their own. and quite often, you'll see skirmishes here between the police and palestinians at times of high tension. but if you wanna visual physical demonstration of the effects, if not well, you have to go to west jerusalem. and so we went that we went to
5:11 pm
a neighborhood called albia, which is, which was very affluence, pre 940 eights, african palestinians, live their doctors and lawyers, and so forth. in $9048.00, it was pretty much confiscated in total by the israelis, most of the houses went on to israeli ownership. and those people that lived there had to move out. and now that neighbourhood is one of the most, when it's up there with the most expensive in the world, it is houses, the prime ministers, residence diplomatic missions, and so on and so forth. but i met a 2 year old woman who lived that palestinian woman who lived there as a little girl. and she took me to the house that she lived in, that she had to leave on the day of not to original residents from the time of the night, but still alive. claudette habash is one. this is your home. this is my house. this is my home, this is what i was born. and this is where i lived at the age of 7. so that
5:12 pm
spends a happy childhood here until her family fled. during the night. my father took us for security with 4 children, not even to take our close to the cover, guys, nothing. everything. everything was left inside the house, the furniture, your tall, everything there with you never got them, but they would just require the size were put by by. pardon. these doors are still the origin of doors and the main door, the entrance to the home to my home is still the same. but i feel bad. it is not well kept really badly kept cool. if you eat something without it being washed. yeah, yeah, to right. this is melody fruit from a tree that your father planted?
5:13 pm
my father that this one years i did not forget, i was 7 years at what i did not forget, i still remember and vividly my life, my liddy life. you then my children, we made sure they know the history, the history of my nation, the history of the palestinians, and the history of our properties of our home, of my home, the home of my husband. and not only my then children and i have to good ad children. they know when they play from here. they say this is the home of peter. this is the home of season. we make sure they've got to get we're ready for their conciliation at the justice.
5:14 pm
we want such as al justice, how can you have peace said dean. and as long as we have here, and we are here. me and my understanding of people gorda habash them, extraordinary woman. it's hard to imagine, isn't it? having to flee your home and you try and go back again to have the door slammed in your face at home. perhaps you've lived in as a family in your ancestors for generations, but that is the reality for hundreds of thousands of palestinians. well, to establish the state of israel, zine, this paramilitary groups had to capture more land. and then to do that lay launched a series of attacks of cross what was historical palestine back then,
5:15 pm
or more than 530 main palestinian villages were destroyed by jewish paramilitary forces. they drove out entire populations from their homes. families were made refugees over night, casanya, a thriving palestinian village from taura, another coastal village, the port city of jaffa tiberius. the northern city of high for the list can go on just some of the places where palestinians were forcibly expelled. well, honey, the van m is the general director of the palestinian form for israeli studies. she explains how the expulsions of palestinians from their lands impacted families. no possibility. none. it's a mega collective mega it's. it's means to me what's the mean for monday, but i've seen the loss of the whole now infinity with the police, the last of the senior and the failure of the national
5:16 pm
ranking and the dream that's about a senior and how it's the mashing station elimination. i'm unable and elimination of student existence and home, the fragmentation of the people into different groups. and also it's the continue of an ongoing and justice of feelings. and i'm with coachcomm and live in funny and go to live even in the common way. the man who he origin talestine tends to be a future in party if he cannot come and visit sometime. i don't think that there is one family in palestine. one, you know, somebody who was not impacted in my diet,
5:17 pm
meaning by them, by just my family is in is in the place was in 1948 by the new born. so the family of my father was tend to be in the other side of the border. the good it was become the line and my half of the family is in the line. so my family, in order just to my grandfather of the mother, was sneaking into the border decking to be tub just to meet her of an 8910 a our guest here we have joining us once again. our to patient guests. the land, other card. she's the assistant professor of conflict resolution diplomacy and strategic planning at the american association of university professors and the
5:18 pm
american arab american university here in rama. lol. so yada, how are you from a shudder co? she's a senior analyst at the palestinian policy net. well, thanks for. thanks for coming back. so putting this back into perspective for people, we're talking about displacement in the last package or so just make it clear for people who have been pushed out of their lands. not only are they not allowed to go back in, they're not allowed to retake their family homes. they can't in most cases it's not impossible. it's very hard to even get a come just to visit your family home if it still exists. yeah, that's correct, sammy i, israel is very regime has a permit, an id system which prevents most palestinians from moving around freely. so palestinians air in the west bank and gaza, who are refugees, can actually go back to visit their ancestral home lands. many of which the
5:19 pm
villages are still standing. they can actually still see the houses that their grandparents grow up and, and for them to get that they have to apply for permits to the israeli regime, which are more often than not deny it. and one of the, the star this things with all of this style is that the struggle is over the land, but the struggle in another sense is really over the people. what do you do with these people? and the resistance to the idea of sending these people allowing refugees, not only here about the millions of refugees in lebanon in jordan, in syria, and so on is the idea that they've got to achieve a jewish majority of the state of business that must remain as a jewish state, if the price of that means that people are not allowed to return their how lengths, so be it. thank you. well, and in the state of the world that you're not jewish than that you really dont count lives, don't count, but they are do it. and this one document that in the can 8 that that makes an
5:20 pm
estate line 2018. i mean, anybody, pounds, up israel, anybody who has brought these to the how can them other israel legalizing apartheid and racism against the palestinian. but to put things in more context, i'm on the neck by day neck, but an occupation isn't bad through suit for it out there. all left wing israelis and say that we would like to leave the state where everybody has equal rights. sadly, that's. busy the fault of the current is ready to go. i mean thing, but let me tell those also left finger that today in palestine is rising as innovation gooding, my son was 13. they are on tick tock on instagram. they will not accept anything less of equal rights. this is the new generation that israel and going to be facing very, very so on. if the older generation accept that 22 percent on this land, well, let them wait and have the new internet rates and including me on the god. i will not accept less than equal rights as a human beings if only israel looks at every palestinian. whether it is in regards
5:21 pm
of their political, religious, or ideological affiliation, but the only other human being than i think would be in a better place. i'm glad you use actually dropped a few points for us to pick up on that yellow. let's start with the idea that somebody can come groups of people to another part of the world, say what we believe according to our religious belief that god gave us this line so sorry, but that's the way it is. i mean, it's very hard to find the historical catalogue for that where people would dispossess their line because of another people's religious beliefs coming from another part of the world. that's a very popular sayings. i mean that my sinus don't believe in god, but they believed that god gave them this land. and i think that really hammers heim that this is not a religious issue. this is a satellite colonial context in which one group of people believe that they are superior to another group of people. and indeed someone from brooklyn who is of
5:22 pm
jewish heritage, can come here and claim more rights to this land than i cannot palestinian or delilah for example. so that the situation isn't one of you know, a religious civil conflict between religious groups, but rather i religious narrative being used by a settler colonial project to. and shrine dominance of one group over another people which is actually also the very definition of apartheid. oh, how, how demoralizing is it to hear that sort of rhetoric being supported by the very policy in the schools that talk about democracy, human rights talk about how they want to fight extremism, religious extremism, religious fanaticism, and yet will stand with that kind of notion. well, let me say thing to your audience that that me, that on palestinian lamb the conflict is not religious. and i openly say that i
5:23 pm
think judaism is innocent from dying of them. you know, when a zionist faith comes and challenges god, in determining when i palestinian life should be terminated, that i don't think any religion alone judaism would accept such a thing. when she didn't have a lock, there was assassinated when she was murdered with my aunt medina. upon my own cousin was murdered also on his sister's wedding day when the israelis deed that is there any redeemed appetites of them and the public called on everything that we are witnessing had decided ineffective to terminate our lives. well this is, this must be god's job. so to start with the religion, i think the state of israel is challenging god and judaism is innocent from dian grove as clearly some double standards going on here, as he said, a yard of that somebody can come from another part of the world who's never actually lived here, but can claim that they have more rights here to someone like q who goes his family
5:24 pm
has lived here for generations. right? doesn't give you any hope, but now very well known, credible international institutions like amnesty international, like human rights watch. going back maybe a year, couple of years and started to talk about not just double standards. what about a poss, hi delivery, old seeing about the situation here that they say that is on the part time double standards. i mean, i think what those organizations and offers debt was very important. of course they've been building off the work of palestinian scholars and research, as for many, many decades have insisted that this is an apartheid situation. but unfortunately, i do think we have a long way to go before that is embedded in, in foreign policy. i mean, the fact that there is an unfair system, hair which is revolved around a dominance of one group over another, has been a well established fact for a very long time. and yet israel has continued to operate with impunity without
5:25 pm
being held accountable for this system. it maintains and that it's quite simply because it is too beneficial. the ready regime is too beneficial for the international community. it is an outpost and imperial outpost in the middle east and out for to me it's come at a price and that's the says palestine frieda. i thank you so much jada and allows for being with us so far. well, as they were mentioning, a new generation of palestinians is growing up, sorry for all the wind after the oslo accords there finding new ways though, to challenge the occupation from art to digital activism. the finding new ways to explain their narratives to the world half is all martin, all types of his remembers the 1st time he was inspired by political arts. it was during the 1st intifada in 1987 when palestinians rose up in mass populous civil disobedience aimed at ending the occupation international political pressure faced
5:26 pm
by israel, convinced it to begin peace talks of the palestinians, which led to the oslo accords. a deal to create a 2 state solution that never materialized and life on the is radio occupation continues till this day. half is his aunt's aim to challenge these ready narrative and attempts to block their voices on social media. there is a lot of laws are going around but a lot of illusion, the trying to put into people's heads specially the new generations, those generations. i didn't live or soccer for fargo, or didn't see all the aspects of, of the occupation, our role as orcus, as people who chance you know, deliver messages and to show them as to tell them the truth. building their history, filled in verbally, theosophist. more than half the palestinian population is under the age of 30, and they've never known anything else other than living on the israeli occupation. they've also never seen this promise that was made to previous generations by the off my records. and that's is an independent states. we look out at
5:27 pm
a world build on division and privilege felon, but often started an online video campaign, cold, uncivilized, until you are unworthy. it focuses on the nuances of language when it comes to oppression and human rights abuses. the concept behind uncivilized is not just about palestine, but it's a global thing. it's about how there's been double standards and really a racist approach in the way. brown and black people have been covered for very long time. just look at the way palestine is covered by western media. many palestinian young says we spoke to say the resistance against his radio occupation is no longer one dimensional and it moves beyond only protesting on the streets. changing the narrative is not going to liberate palestine on its own, but it's such an important part because it's about redefining a new reality that moves us beyond or slow, which really entrenched apartheid and the one st reality we live under. so it's
5:28 pm
about defining the future, defining what we want and how we get there, and to leave the past behind with palestinian youth increasingly disenfranchised with life on the occupation. they're finding their voice in more ways than one. and to challenge those in power and step, they say in holding israel accountable. so to hide it, al jazeera ramana in the occupied westbank for i was coming to towards the end of our special coverage marketing and macbook or the great catastrophe. but in fact, the palestinian 74 years ago before we go, we have to leave you with the final package which our colleagues surely now block the fall before she was killed, vice re be forces. she spent her life. and as you see in this report, spent her career documenting the catastrophes which palestinians face learning how to put grandma me in her a limited with the horner. oh, and girl and resolution eudoxia to now,
5:29 pm
but he's here korea to him her jared away. so whether left of you to feed their curity bahati thought it korea to her people. unity, how were our bodies? mia? he see her. i'll call mckenna. karima had diamond neck bell. the when, when the guy would turn your jonah 100, well, hang on a d and under the junk a gun issue. 100 glochelle. mr. william, then the national for him. let, let them have will, will know. korea to waste. why he, that one minute experiment. come see me at you, korea 10 hazard at this rate. you know, so can have jamita many it in were urbana can offend in, i will have her fill had yet i shut them in a hama. ha ha! like another kid, i tell them to when her to the val how full of bowel misery, abner al coral mirage, arizona, her electric, he her, well the know and the home, say, our donor. oh, margaret, 100 love,
5:30 pm
i come char culbert. philly. got to nash will juggle courier performance of nobility. rosario shall wagged mother under the mood faculty in phil ballard for actually hold below. and phil co where who had to leave. you mean? absolutely, nina. and yet i'm a circle. been with that he betty hill abbey. who did i mean, who often will out that he, you know, with her with like a hello gina. well, you know, money at a mosacco be here. how fun winter crowding lacrowe, weather, galaxy theory, and mental philistine in any alma minor, la copa, ellen called sir, well hello, while other water fatima taffy philistine mania ish will neck by tomorrow? until walker. the ammeter many at in water by in who's you that was there to well, i will commercial willa martine mill, takata subaru, letty better till your mother? not her. do the straight yellow was the carrot for the 40 let it be. yeah. so my that in like by 2 liters at that there mcwilliams.

29 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on