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but it is about the ramifications. if ro versus weight is overtime. one ro versus weight is over rule. united states will not only impact access to abortion care, but will likely impact access to both control. there'll be an increase need and demand for contraceptives, particularly emergency contraception like m b, which should be available over the counter in the united states. and we need to ensure all women and girls cross all communities, especially communities of color at high risk for unintended pregnancy, have access to affordable birth control and emergency contraceptives. so we have legal experts lined up to talk to you to explain what the ramifications might be if the constitutional rights for an legal bullshit in united states. if that goes away as early as next month on youtube,

you can ask questions. you can put your comments, they're very, very welcome. please use the comment section here. we're waiting for your questions . now let me introduce you to our legal expert. we have the a wheeler. we have professor good when a professor sachar really gets have all of you all here lithia, please introduce yourself trying to national audience. hi, thanks so much for having me here. i'm lydia wheeler. i'm a senior legal reporter at bloomberg law and i cover healthcare litigation get to have you michelle love to have you here on the screen. please introduce yourself to the stream view as you thank you. i'm a chance, a professor at the university of california irvine as well as a senior lecturer at harvard medical school, author of the book, policing the womb, invisible, women and the criminalization of motherhood, and get to have you and lovely to see new lives as well. welcome to the conversation. please introduce yourself. hi, satler. i'm a professor at austin in the heart of the state where an abortion band is currently

in place. i am wondering get 50 years of having a constitutional right to an abortion, and now we're discussing what might happen if this is overruled. how do you explain? i'm really interested in all of your your take on this little you can. so i think thing where we are right now, how is this possible? well, you know, we're pretty surprised that the supreme court's draft opinion was leaked to begin with. so that's where we are. and you know, this has never happened in the courts modern day history. that we have seen what the internal deliberations of the supreme court are. so that's how we got to where we are today with, you know, a clue into what this justice is might do here. which is it there, signaling that they're planning to overturn this precedent decision from 1973. and it's pretty clear if that happens,

what the future looks like is that abortion access will depend on what state you live in, michelle, you're not in. go ahead at similar place. well, you know, i see this as the coming of the new jane crow. and what that means is that in the united states following slavery, black people still had 2nd class citizenship. that was in dated by the united states supreme court of holding state laws that denied black people full participation in government and society. and what we see is the supreme court does go ahead and dismiss until grovee wade will be a new jane pro. meaning that for women, it will be a matter of 2nd class citizenship quite literally and even quite deadly. for many women who are black and brown in the united states, because of the u. s. all ready is $0.50 in the world in terms of maternal mortality and states in the us that misses to be louisiana and texas are considered the deadliest places in the entire air. quote,

develop world to even be pregnant miss. how can you go 1st is i yeah, i want to jump in and that i think everything is right on i just don't know, but i was surprised. i was surprised by the week i wasn't surprised by the fact that frame core want roe the wade and plans to do so. i'm part of that with the fact that texas had in place a law at the end of worship after the 6 week mark really after 2 or 3 weeks pregnant september 1st. because the supreme court, let's do that. let us go back to some extent. we're already seeing a repercussions here in texas a bit different from overturning or be made because people can travel to oklahoma or louisiana. so while road i'm and there's

a deeper time period, which maybe we can talk about. yeah, well, that deeper time period. i mean, i agree with you that this is not something that is surprising. and for me it's not surprising just because of texas as 8 is not surprising. given the 2nd class citizenship of black and brown women in the united states. and the fact that even in the 1900 eighty's and ninety's, there were black women in places like south carolina, north carolina and other states that were being dragged out of hospital in. busy shackles and chains and were significantly ignored by reproductive rights movement, because these were not matters of abortion, but yet ventral to questions of reproductive justice. i agree with you in many ways, it is not surprising because in many ways, black women have been the married in the coal mine. and this has been something that certainly those who've been working in reproductive justice have been waving a flag about or a couple of decades now. i was right. and if i could just interject here and you

know, it's clear that abortion is going to be legal based on what state you're in. what's not clear right now is whether states are going to be able to do anything to stop the residence that they have from traveling across their borders to another state where it's to legal, to just get the procedure there. and that's, you know, there's, that raises some interesting questions and some very untested areas of law. so i think we are likely to see many more legal fights ahead over abortion. i know that the supreme court with this decision is kind of really hoping that it like washes its hands of abortion and doesn't ever have to deal with another abortion case ever again. i think that the supreme court would love it if that were the case, but i think if they overturn roe v wade here, that they're just opening up the door for a lot more legal challenges and leave. yeah. how is it possible for the supreme court in the us to already make a president and then over turn that president. how is that possible?

i mean, usually it's something that they say that they don't like to do is that they, you know, that this is always a question that's brought up when we think about supreme court nominees. and, you know, those are people who, that the president elects to the bench on, you know, trump has had, had had several appointments. i'm in there, they're all asked, you know, do you respect the supreme court's prior decisions? and they all always say, yes, we do. busy so it's not very common that they overturn themselves and it seems like this is happening more frequently and, but this would be a big of evil if they, if they do that here. since we've had this law, a constitutional right to abortion on the book, since 1973, i want to basically brainstorm with you and just get your thoughts on what might happen. what do you feel might happen? having okay, a my laptop among those wanting of the right to a constitutional abortion kept overturning, wrote rove us,

his weight would move the country in the wrong direction. 84 percent of people believe that be a danger to women, 82 percent of people that believe that be a danger to america's right. 82 percent of people believe that net start talking about the ramifications if this happens less. what is your biggest concern that you think this will happen? june or july? 2020. to go ahead. i think my 1st initial concern is the one that michelle raised that black women indigenous women, hispanic women, are, can areas in my for women generally are more likely to be immediately impact. and that's certainly always, you know more. this isn't the 1st time they are restricted, unfortunately, have many, many abortion restrictions in place. we have prohibitions on sunday or abortion for

women. and we know that those restrictions have had a real impact on for women and black women in immigrant. women as well got out a little bit more because if you leave anything out of state, you absolutely get that you understand what the, what life is like for, for minorities and for people who do not have as many resources as many americans. what does that actually mean? if in june ro versus white is over turned a fuel pool? i don't think i actually that americans really understand what women racialize minorities go through united states, a returns for poor women. what this means is that already abortions, very. there's not insurance coverage for for one who find themselves pregnant on expectedly need to scramble to gather resources, even medication, abortion,

which is time limited to about $500.00 just for getting the abortion pills. and so with this basically means is i have to pay for the procedure they're going to have to pay for travel, they have to work out child care, they lose wages because they have to take off work. so it's sort of a snowball of various cost just for the procedure itself, and that's for those people lucky and are capable enough to be able to get access to the procedure. and i, i should add here, if i can that you know, abortion medication. and those are pills that the f d a has regulated and says that you can take and it's safe and effective to terminate a pregnancy up until 10 weeks. those are actually things that states are already working to limit, and there are states that have bands on them being sent by the mail. there are also restrictions that states have passed that require them to be dispensed by

a physician in person. and so that limits a women's ability to, to do a tell a health appointment and get a prescription that way and get it filled at their pharmacy. so that we're already seeing restrictions in place just for medication, abortion. and that's going to be another area we're, we're likely to see legal challenges. michelle i, i was, i didn't want to feel polka recently, and it was about any medicine. and also using drugs via a so t, so that you can have an abortion at home. basically it's a, it's another method of doing it without having to go into facility. you, you'll pull, coffee's reporting, rebelling, telling kind of sums up your approach to, to this entire situation. the idea that people using tele medicine and using drugs in order to work out how to create their own abortion without haven't going to facility before this challenge to rover is way. tell me something about where united states is right now. can you tell us more?

well, sure, well 2 point that i make there is that one abortions are very said, the world health organization is compared to the, the ivan abortion, to the one shot in the united states. a woman is 14 times more likely to die by hearing a pregnancy to term than by having an abortion medication. abortion has been a significant feature in how women are terminating pregnant, the in the united states, incredibly ace. and there have been times in which has been subjected to a kind of political football match during the trumpet ministration. and mister prestone and basically drugs that are due to terminate pregnant. these were singled out amongst more than $20000.00 drugs as the only one where a person had to go in person in order to receive it. that's been changed now that biden is in the office. but it is one of the ways in which women may speak to terminate pregnancy. but i want to go back to the prior point in terms of what

natalie. and i think we can't emphasize that enough. these very high rates of maternal mortality and maternal morbidity in the united, in the united states. and louisiana. a woman is 57 times more likely to die by carrying a pregnancy to term than by terminating in mississippi. a black woman is $118.00 times more likely to die by carrying a pregnancy to term. then by having an abortion now, this can be a matter that anyone can decide for themselves. but what is really a tragedy here is to be in these very states that have had history of human enslavement and trafficking in human beings. and then jim crow that in these very state knowing those very start that rate that they would force women in those days like carry pregnancy to term. it is unbelievable. ok, so let me just bring in here. paula johnson. paula johnson is

a professor of your syracuse university and she told us, i made this point just a few hours ago. i'm listen, the government should not have any role in those kinds of decisions. but typically where women's lives can often be, you know, in the balance where we're not just talking about whether or not someone carries a pregnancy to term. but whether we're not someone's life and health and be a issue for black women and women of color in particular, that's a major issue. because our health care has always been something that has been disparate in this society. so that was simply compelled to verse a situation where the life of the mother would be parallel and her decision making about her own body and about her own future life. i did promise you on you think you can be part of this conversation. thank you for your

questions and comments. i guess i'm going to ask you to speak to lee reply to them levy. i'm going to give you this one from lots. when will the supreme court make a decision? what is the date tonight? yeah, so we never know when the supreme court's decisions are going to come down and we know what they all they do is they announce what day are going to be opinion days, but we don't ever know what we're going to get. what we do know is that the supreme court term runs from october to usually the end of june. and they have, i think about 60 cases left, that they need to issue opinions for. and so we had an opinion day earlier this week. there could be more announced this week i'm potentially next week. so before the end of june, hopefully, but it could stretch in to the beginning of july and before we get a decision on the weight, and usually for these big blockbuster cases, we call them these. and the cases on hot button issues that are going to have big impact. those are usually the type of cases that the supreme court holds until the

very end i. so let me give this one to liz. this one comes from c dasa, we're watching right now. thank you. if they overturn roe vs wade, they could overturn any supreme court decision that they don't like it's dangerous . less could that happen? my overstate a key is lots of people are very concerned about the draft opinion because it says that the constitution in the united states and what we call the substance of due process clause, which is basically a cause that protects the citizens of state from right fundamental rights infringement. so what fundamental rights are due process? the supreme court is from things like rights marry the right to raise children the right to parent the rights of contraception. and to abortion, the draft opinion says that what should be considered fundamental are only those

rates that are deeply rooted in the history and tradition of our nation at the draft that abortion is not one of those rights. and actually suggests that the right to privacy and bodily autonomy is now what is protected by history and tradition. they look back to making sure you the 19th century. and so i was the one of the rights recognized. not surprisingly, the answer is essentially now, when women were viewed as property and actually were property, let me just go to just picking up from what you said is let me put this one to you . michelle. this one comes from movies to watch and right now if i overturn roe versus wade, that you think that they want to off to gay or into racial marriage, which is kind of what lease was saying as well is i also hire lee possible. it is because even the outrages who, who would do that it would be, well,

county clark. right. so even though just as a leader in this week draft opinion says that there are guard real around that luther even real because all it takes is a local county clerk who's inspired by milling from the court a well, i will refuse to issue a marriage license to the same sex couple, i'll refuse to issue a marriage license to this interracial couple. i'll refuse to certify the adoption that this couple that's jewish. want to have because the children they're adopting happen to be christian. and we've already seen this so that even though the supreme court says their guard, well, many cases don't make their way to the united states supreme court. so many things are really quite local, so, so long as a clerk refuses and a local judge of holes that or a family doesn't go further than that because they're dishearten. then we already see the dismantling of those rights to media. again,

i'm just looking at the source from c, b s, and you got looking at the polls that they did with americans to see where they felt that the supreme court should fall with as guiding rover as his weight. and if it should be overwrought, 64 percent keep it as it is 36 percent over town it. if those 36 percent get their way the justices decide to over 10 rovers is way. what are the other ripple effects beyond the impact on women and goals and families? what else might be impacted? why i think the show hit hit it a little bit there, you know, and as well lives about the reasoning in this decision, this draft of the decision saying that this is a right that's not deeply rooted in the constitution. and you know, if that's the case, then that same argument, progressive thing could be made for a host of other things, including the right to contraceptives, the right to gay marriage. you know, another interesting thing about this decision is also just the other type of

abortion restrictions that this could be the way for. so in this decision, the conservative majority said, you know, work, abortion isn't a right, that's rooted in the constitution. but, you know, we, we think that states have an interest in protecting rights and so that's why we're going to, you know, overturn roe v wade. and, you know, if the estates have, all they have to do is say that they have this interest and the interest is in protecting life or, or whatever the interest is, than there could be a lot of other things that are put worth. but states could do just to say we're doing this because we have an interest in, in x, y, or z. guess i want to bring him one more, my vice if i my professor michelle the excuse me, on my voice. and this is from dr. silas and i, i think it's really intriguing to have a doctor's voice in this conversation because as a medical aspect to what might happen that i hadn't even considered. but of course medical practitioners have to, he's thought to solace. ever versus wait as overturn of course,

this will restrict access to abortion in the united states. that's the intention is predicted that more than half of states will enact fans or restrictions in that circumstance. this will disproportionately impact those who already have less access to resources, and that includes people in rural areas. people, low income and black and latino people and other people of color. this inherent disparity in health outcomes and access concerns me greatly as a physician. i also worry about how we're going to train the next generation of people who will provide abortion care. it. half of our training programs are in states where, where she is not allowed, who will be trained to provide abortions in the future. i hadn't considered about the training a states that then go to a fully restricted. you cannot have an abortion in this state. well then the new doctors, the new practitioners learn how to put tip to actually do this procedure that hadn't occurred to me. something that did occur to me though,

is that whenever we have a conversation that is involving abortion, we have a split in our orient between those who are for abortion rights and those who are not for abortion rights. so what would you say to the audience that says that they are pro life and they think that over tutting row versus white is a good idea. how might that impact them? less and the michelle and then lydia, i pro life approach needs to ride the minds of people who are pregnant and become can become pregnant. right now we're going to moment where the anti abortion may recognize. we may see in the when on the horizon and there's talk about, well, maybe we should have policies that support families. maybe we should have health care or people. but these are all homeless. these, the anti abortion forces opposed 3 years. i think we really need to think more

deeply about what it means to be pro life, just like we need to really think deeply about the role of religion society, which is driving a lot of these changes. and we're a doesn't acknowledge that we have differences in religion, least many religious people in the united states share a basic conviction and other people's religion shouldn't control your decisions about family formation and bodily. right at the very end, if they show professor michelle good, when this is a terrible thing to ask you what i'm going to ask you in a sentence, what do you think might happen in june? in june? i think that the united states supreme court well dismantled roe v wade, and we will be in this country. i'm there fully denying abortion by are significantly limiting them. professor michelle goodwin professor this epa lydia rena. thank you so much for helping us understand the legal ramifications if roe vs

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