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killed by israeli forces. her murder has been condemned around the well, but who will be accountable, held accountable for she rains death. that is the focus of our conversation today. we're joined by mona, by dana and july, friends of the stream. i wish it was under better circumstances that will all come together. but i do want you to remind our audience who you are and what you do. mona, welcome back. thanks tammy for the introduction. my name is one of the year on that property, advisor of ham leathers, sent their of social media of the advancement of social media. i'm also, i'm a candidate add add the university. alba smith said, doing my m a's social media and just that communication, nasa good to have the expertise on today's discussion. dana, welcome back to the stream, please you my audience, who you are, what you do. my name is dana occurred. i'm an assistant professor in the department of political science at the university of richmond and, and um, yeah,

unfortunately, this is my expertise here with that to hadley and jalal. get to see you once more on the stream remind, asking what he wants. he, you, i am what ye day did you see tiffany, my name is available and i'm a concerned posted in who happens to live in jerusalem. and i describe myself as a writer and case robinson. all right, so you've met your panel audience. if no one you change right now, your comments show question is how was the past week going for you in terms of sharing apple ad clay's murder? what do you want to talk about what is resonating with you? put your conversation door questions right hand be part of the day shall fill out. is there a headline right now that he's jumping out at you that you feel that you need to unpack for an international audience? i've got a couple of thoughts, but i'm really wondering what, what you're saying down on the ground. absolutely. yeah, i had the headline and it's the fact that a week later, a week after this the, the horrible horrific images. we've seen the killing of cities and the funeral

processions and everything. we've seen this all the loudness that we've witnessed. an israeli authorities have the uh, the, the rudeness and the gold to go and arrest the mean all day read who was holding sitting, scoffing at the entrance to the french hospital in jerusalem. this guy was, went viral and posted in media as being the guy who was hell holding on to the post to the coffin of shipping. and he sustained so much by the zenith forces and his fixture went viral, like this guy still showed so much strength. and just making sure this, this a coffin does not fall over. and he gave all his energy to protect that coffin. he was being beaten, he was not resisting in any way just attacked. andy arrested him and they claim his arrest has nothing to do with the funeral. but the interrogation has been asked. events are given us in, but the funeral rustic repeatedly, and it puts him in solitary confinement. asking him why was he insisting on

maintaining his grip on the coffin? that's what the grades are. gators r o, at far as it al, right now on a says apple at this room and he's holding his head. i'm explain language and you can see this on his head trying to carry the coffin at the same time. and he's been arrested for want exact age allow basically what the israelis are saying that his arrest has nothing to do with a funeral procession. much rad that is associations or a his communications with band groups or terrorist groups, what they've described. it's of course, a betty baseless accusations that we've seen in jerusalem being used against lot off and that those who are active and those water, vulcan, the st including and that, that, ah, the year when i thought the in, from shedra neighborhood who spent 16 months in a story he said, was spent over 6 months in prison because of his full of an accusation of

communications only to take him off the streets. what they're doing this guy over there. i'm rather they, it is punishment for his. that's happened, said nathan, holding the coffin there punishing over hero and every social media page that i know have shared the picture of this guy. so this is the person himself. we are interviewing him because his, his strength was inspired to so many and he wanted to crush that one person so that he went arrested him or interrogating him and had had him not when solitary confinement in this more than what he can't recognize. what time it is outside, that's was what they've decided to do is who this person hon. there might a guy had, hey, thanks for me. actually. i need cover much more about that to rights and that is, that is fear because like this is my expertise. and basically we saw like, how is your eighty's are trying to change the narrative and to dominate that. there had germany on the digital is fear. you did it like they are utilizing that to and

use that using a just to dominate the narrative there. and to take down the scene in narrative or to an or to take it to take it down or to hide senior narrative, let's say. and when it comes to she in a box there 1st thing happened when she was shocked by the israeli soldier, as they said, like she was shot by a palestinian gunmen and a cushion we we've here. i'm sorry i was just i guess the question that yes, so basically it with here like from a, from i with mrs. people who like get like her cli shed the her nation and all those there in the, in the feel it, when they basically said that she was, should, by the, is re soldiers. we so we saw that the, the command that and then the israelis, i'm gonna try to someone i, i hear i hear that you, it, it's quite a complicated set up to explain because of the ops vacation. ok. because it's

deliberately trying to israel deliberately trying to appears to be that there to let me trying to confuse what we actually saw on what we actually know. so my colleague sondra guffman is part of the digital series called start here. and she basically laid out the investigations and where the narrative was changed. dana, i want to have a listen to this and then respond immediately afterwards. hey, sondra. it appears likely that armed palestinians who were firing indiscriminately at the time were responsible. and i heard of a video of halcyon gunman in the area of but and out as your investigation examines the location of that video and concluded the gunshots fired in it. we're not connected to celine's death. these railey writes group, but the lem also examined the video and came to the same conclusion.

investigative organization, belin kat, later published a more detailed analysis using other publicly available data. they worked out that shooting was here. the israeli army was here on the palestinian gunmen were also in the area here. so that's a further distance. it's a much more obstructed line of sight to the spot where, where it is tragic killing to place belling cats. conclusion is that the available video evidence does not provide good grounds of doubt. the accounts of the journalists on the scene indeed appears to support them. yeah, i mean, it should be enough that the journalists that were eye witness, you know, providing eyewitness testimony. saw what happened and said that this is, you know, a targeted shooting and that they were not near any other armed factions. but the fact that all of these organizations have now confirmed whether it's al jazeera but

santa bank had all the ones that were mentioned. just goes to show that, that obfuscation is clearly like it's very blatantly a strategy. they used this before with them. some of the dora they've used this since and that's why i think that they lost that 1st round of the discourse online . because people could see and these videos went viral. whereas, you know, they can't really fight that narrative any more. now they're switching it up. now they're saying something different about what happened with shitty, and even if it was a tragic mistake, they're claiming it is anti semitic to focus on it because a journalist, sty everywhere. so why are we focusing on just israel shooting of this particular journalist? and you'll see that also in the oh yeah, go ahead. check on a support you on this boy, donna noticed the 1st reaction of those rates on the morning. one sure, what skins they put all their energy than the prime minister of israel,

including the foreign ministry and the foreign minister of his job. they all treated out the same that you're trying to muddy the waters. that's what they did in the 1st few hours. that was obviously a very coordinated strategy to distort the news as fast as possible. that was last week or one wednesday more. no luck. i will. i will all, it's antisemitism, i to law may i add something just to support your point, not that you need extra support from me, but i'm going to bring it in from dina to corey, who's one of my colleagues at ha plus. and she basically shows the tactics the strategy very bold, very open, very transparent. take a look. the israeli government knows how to use it statements to manipulate mainstream media. and official even took credit for their quote p r. boys saying they had successfully influenced the associated press and bbc coverage to cast doubt over who had killed should in july, please continue to go ahead my. my conclusion was to,

to not to not to secure attention to today where the israeli official government, the envoy for anti semitism as she was newly appointed to combine semitism by the sooner government than to day she came up with a message august the another quarter of the recorded message distortion campaign. and she is saying that the national federation of journalist, documented over 2000 durham skills over the last year. she questions why people are not talking about all those journeys i've chosen sitting in. and she accuses people who are talking about studying of me and to symmetric. she did that in a very weird video that i just thought hours ago. what is the official invoice for the israeli government to combat antisemitism? she's accusing us of the and symmetric what our grief overshooting us the shuttle. i think. oh, i apologize. good. no, no need to apologize. you are my guess danny, you go 1st. i go 2nd, i have you to comment as who was i want to talk about sherry than a you go 1st and then i'm going to ask you all, all of you to help me out with some of the questions our audience have and they

want to ask me straight away, dan, please continue. yeah, i just wanted to connect this. what's happening was in, in a bachelor's, a murder, with a broader strategy, i think with the pro, pro israel, kind of a mil you are certain lobbies and groups, particularly in western countries. i can speak to the united states, they know that they are losing the, the, the battle over the discourse. because these images speak louder than any kind of propaganda can. so they are making a very direct and clear shift to these accusations of anti semitism. okay. we're seeing, it's particularly was, should in but this is a broader context. all right, let me open up the conversation guest to our audience as well. that delilah mc is this to you, was this a premeditated assassination? if so, why not? instead of investigating the slight hold the ones who issued the order to acc, allowed to say briefly,

go ahead. i don't think there's any evidence to point to targeted. sorry, beyond the fact that they were talking to a journalist, there is no other in order to get pre mediated where she was the target. but the fact that the journalist, in my opinion is because the israeli army, when they entered, especially in refugee camp, they did not want any camera because every time they go in there, in casualty, every time they seem to work. so they're violent in extreme diverse and lisa engineering and they wanted to target anyone who was there, especially those documenting and israeli. mr. story spokesperson for the ministry or a big chief in the military. had said that they are armed with cameras. don't you think? i remember armed cameras, remember, clearly were called rising. i made the journalist if i may jump in on the same video that you showed us a to me like a few minutes ago. we have

a ham listened to reported that video for it. facebook to highlight that as of this information and propaganda from the israeli government, because they usually use a social media platforms to spread their propaganda. and that this information to cover all saw what they are. usually it's printing all over the edge to the spaces . and the only thing that we've here from meta is this is our, or this video did not violate their community standards. while when we palestinians are the common thing, human rights violations that we are exposed to on the ground entering that on the social media. they repeatedly have been taken down because the on the or under their execute or claims of violating their community standards. and we can see this, like we can see, we can see this as a part of it. this is tim. it take it for its own part of the symmetric over. it's that you do the seeks to silence palestinian voices and just in the spaces and the killing of the therion, a american palestinian journalist, sheila barclays,

part of that. you did it for a like they seek to create the chilling effect. so whenever it like they feel that there are like will, can, activists will, could journalists book and people or anything on the ground that you did it into a, get us, they surveil us, they arrest the us and sometimes the sentence us for months and therefore they did that for shooting because they know like shooting is like is a family member we. we felt that we lost a family member because she is part of our childhood memory. and they intended to do that with trudy. and because they want us to have or to, to scare us, they want to terrify us and to have this kind of chilling effect more and more. ok, most of one of the things i said that we wanted to do at the very beginning of the it was one week after she rene's mother who will be held accountable on you choose coin says the simple truth is no one will be held accountable. but

a few hours ago we spoke to the human rights attorney, nora iraq hat, and this is what she told us, have a listen, have a look. accountability for the murder, the assassination of shipping. a barclay would look like a thorough impartial investigation that not only incriminated one single soldier who shot fired as shy the precision shot that were in her head. but the entire system that facilitated this process, there was a general who okayed the kill. there was a legal advisor who said that it was legal and there was a system that enabled these really occupation forces d engine, or they should not be on lands. they should not be on at all to be terrorizing the entire palestinian population living there. this is a system of apartheid. and shaheen is one of its many victims and one of his cruelest murders as talk about accountability in some detail,

the system has to be held accountable. not the person who pulled the trigger. dana, you start? yeah, i think that that data at as is correct and especially given that should ins it should ins kind of position ality is that she is a holder of an american citizenship shooting a journalist as a war crime under u. s. law. ah, there is some talk i read recently on the intercept, some reporting that there are, there is a letter of circulating congress amongst democratic congress, people calling for an f b i investigation and sending it to a secretary blinking. but i don't know how far that's going to go. i'm not to say that the american, you know, intervention is going to be beyond and all. but in an ideal world like this should have consequences between the united states and israel should have consequences. what have you seen, allow so far as the fix? he should have consequences, and there is no faith in any way in this aly investigation is there's never been

faith and there were, there is no more faith should in let us not forget that city. and only last month there was a report by the i f j. then transportation of journalists, a said at least 46, and his journalists in boston were killed by his lady targeting since near 2000. and no one has been held the count of him. okay, she is not the 1st that have been 4 to 6 without anyone being held accountable by his randi forces. ok, so basically even they sent him as did a human rights group. they had the report, maybe 67 years ago school i think she gave the occupations fig leaf, where they say they stopped dealing at all. and with any history in the courts or any constitution, because you don't want to give a fig leaf through this occupation whitewashed the crimes because the whole system has been to cover up for those crimes. that's what be said. and so i said the system assists in white washing those crimes, therefore there is no faith in that he investigations conduct the place where i am

wondering this was a moment for all palestinians when they just stopped and paused because of sharina legacy. how reporting? oh, i remember it, i grew up with it with a journalist and we will use to pretend to be that jealous. do the same side of she was that journalist where you pretend that you were that out 0 journeys, signing off, doing that incredible reporting. she influence generations. so i am wondering where her murder falls in the history of the occupation of palestine. is it a milestone? is there something here that will change? will that be a date where people always remember the date that she died? there's nodding, there's this sir, so let me just go round all of you to because obviously you're all going to have different hatefulness as, as my view, revenge, allow you saying that they murdered

a collective memory of the person in people. that's what they've murdered emergency . i left the others dana? yeah. um. so interestingly you, i think you have to day on the show people who are about the same age we are member should in iraq. li from the 2nd at the father. her pointing on a 2nd at the father when we were children. i and her death is a blow. but i think it is kind of, i mean it's coincidental, but the fact that it comes a year after the unity and the father. and we saw huge mobilizations in jerusalem, i'm joined by people from outside jerusalem a past and is from outside tourism as well. i not, you know, perhaps her death doesn't need to be in vain. and it helped mobilize palestinians once again. um and i, i think that this is gonna, you know, i'm not saying that this is a critical juncture, but it is definitely

a milestone in, in pushing the policies forward on this path to a unified mobilization. mona, it is a mice, a minus tone, like i remember when we were like old to jen, we have this dream, we, we were, we want to grow up and we want to be like she in a box. we want to be she in of all class from a lot of them leave. all of us have this. yeah. all of us have repeated this sentence like repeatedly when we were young, younger. and i feel like, yeah, it is a milestone, but we should built on that last year in the may uprising, we have like 2 at 2 weeks all palestinian and it's to me cause was the recent relies was trending. and then everything like was almost calm down by the occupation never ends up or tide never ends. we are living on their systematic operation from a, from this a government tools or is from this regime was huge. the discriminating

systematically against all palestinians everywhere. and because of that, it should, may lay, it should be a minus tone, but we should beltran that to have this kind of like, we should have them accountable shooting of all the she is a journalist, but also other palestinians should not be sure. it's just because they are palestinians. we have the right to live in our lands. like shouldn't be a mighty storm, but it's also like should we should build on that for a longer term. and for, for longer term work. i want to bring in one more voice, and this is the voice of mot owing jones. we spoke to a few hours ago with some practical advice about how do we copper situations like serene apple at clays, killing. because as we were watching of the media outlets of a people talking about her, they were talking about it in a way that was different than if she hadn't been

a palestinian. it appears. this is what mock i'd say to was earlier. israel like to weaponized doubts. in other words, what they want to do is try and muddy the water of international public opinion. in this case, they tried to say that when they killed chevy, nebraska, that it was the palestinians who did it. and they want to do this as soon as possible, and in a way they was successful because international news organizations like the new york times b, b, c. and the guardian put israel side of the story pretty high up and they were quoting, however, i think people are getting savvy about israel as an occupying and apartheid state, and increasingly doubting their official narratives. what we need now, it's been news media to have different set of rules when reporting the narrative of an occupying an apostate state. mona is vigorously nodding, articulate your vigorous note rhoda. basically what israel is doing is continuing their digital militarism. since like it says,

the social media platforms is started. they are trying to militarize, unsecure, its eyes the spaces, their narrative, and their propaganda. their hesper are when it's online, they are militarize in those spaces. when also they are like moving the online documentation to arrest people or they are taking advantage of the online, the conditions to arrest people. as gelatin mentioned at the beginning for that man who just was wounding and shootings and she's cascade, then they are, they are linking the online on the offline. they are linking or using or taking advantage of our documentation of a human of their human rights violations, to arrest us and to silence us. then they are working systematically to militarize that digital spaces. and because of that, we palestinians should think more how we are using social media platforms. and we shall belt with our allies and the pro palestinian all around the world and other

progressive movements. thank to mona pressure on the social media companies to stop doing that. the still felt like you got the last word in this conversation. thank you for being in it. dana july. we appreciate you will take one week after the merger of out 0 colleague sharing apple at clay. gonna end here. we've got some sleep who is on youtube right now. the saddest part about sheens murder is that she'll be forgotten. not because we don't care about her, but because sadly it's daily life every day. we lose people. that's the life on the occupation. we definitely in al jazeera will not forget a family member. thank you for being part of today. show. i see you next time. hey, can i move recently? american parents have entrusted their sons to the boy scouts of america, hoping they would gain skills that would improve their lives. instead, countless young lives were ruined by predators within the organization. i knew

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