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shooting off the edge of the to the kind of film festival is back in full swing with big names and blockbusters served up to remind us that the cinemark spirit is back on the menu. organizers have rolled out the red carpet for ukraine. i'm with russian officials banned from attending. solidarity with ukraine is top of the agenda. live coverage on out there with hi, i'm funny. okay. it has been exactly a week since the veteran audi 0 journalist, serene apple. i clay was shot and killed by israeli forces. her motor has been condemned around the well, but who will be accountable,

held accountable for she rings, death. that is the focus of our conversation today. we're joined by mona, by dana and july, friends of the stream. i wish it was under better circumstances that were all come together. but i do want you to remind our audience who you are and what you do. mona, welcome back. thanks tammy, for the introduction. my name is want to stay on the advocacy advisor of ham leathers, since they are of social media of the advancement of social media. i'm also, i'm a candidate ad ebay university albus miss saddling my m 8 social media. and just that communication nice. i good to have the expertise on today's discussion. dana, welcome back to the screen, please your my audience, who you are, what you do. my name is dana occurred. i'm an assistant professor in the department of political science at the university of richmond. and and um, yeah, unfortunately this is my expertise now with that to have me and jalal get to see you once more on the stream remind, asking what he wants, he, you,

i am what ye do it you see, tiffany, my name is available and i'm a concerned posted in who happens to live in jerusalem, and i describe myself as a writer. thank you. all right, so you've met your panel audience. if no one you chew right now, your comments show question is how is the past week going for you in terms of sharing apple ad clay's murder? what do you want to talk about what is resonating with you? put your conversation door questions right hand be part of to day shall fill out. is there a headline right now that he's jumping out? it is that you feel that you need to unpack for an international audience. i've got a couple of thoughts, but i'm really wondering what, what you're saying down on the ground. absolutely. yeah, i had the headline and it's the fact that a week later, a week after this the, the horrible horrific images we've seen in the killing of cities and the funeral processions and everything. we've seen this all the loudness that we've, we've witnessed an israeli authorities health, the,

the rudeness and the gold. you go and the rest, the mean all day read who was holding should in scoffing at the entrance to the french hospital in jerusalem. this guy was, went viral and posted in media as being the guy who was hell holding on to the full to the coffin of shipping. and he sustained so much by the zenith forces and his fixture went viral like this guy. so showed so much strength and just making sure this, this, a coughing does not fall over. and he gave all his energy to protect that coffin. he was being beaten. he was not resisting in any way just attacked. and he rested him, and they claim his arrest has nothing to do with the funeral. but the interrogation has been asked to venture a guess of asking what the funeral, which it repeatedly, and they've put them in solitary confinement. asking him, why was he insisting one, maintaining his grip on the coffin? that's what this razor getters r o as far as it turned out right now on a says apple at this room and he's holding his head. i'm explain language

a little bit and you can see that on his head trying to carry the coffin at the same time. and he's been arrested for want exact age allow basically what the israelis are saying that his arrest has nothing to do with a funeral procession. much rad that is associations or a, his communications with band groups or terrace groups with their discredit. it's of course, a betty baseless accusations that we've seen in jerusalem being used against lot of and but those who are active and those were vulcan, the st including. and that, that, ah, the year when i thought the in from shapes around neighborhood who spent 16 months in a story, he said was spent over 6 months in prison because of his full of an accusation of communications. only to take him off the streets. what they're doing this guy over there. i'm rather they it is punishment for his snap it said matthews,

and holding the coffin there punishing over hero. every social media page that i know have shared the picture of this guy. so this is the person himself. we are interviewing him because his, his strength was inspired to so many and he wanted to crush that one person so that he went arrested him or interrogating him and had had them not when solitary confinement in this more said, well, he can't even recognize what time it is outside. that's was what they've decided to do is who this person i'm going to able to live. my dad i had. hey, thanks for me. actually. i need cover much more about that to rights and that is, that is fear because like this is my expertise. and basically we saw like, how is your eighty's are trying to change the narrative and to dominate that. there had germany on the digital a sphere you did it like they are utilizing that to and use that using it just to dominate the narrative there. and to take down the scene in narrative or to an or to take it to take it down or to hide senior narrative,

let's say. and when it comes to she in a box there 1st thing happened when she was should by the israeli soldier, as they said, like she was shocked by a philistine younger man. and a question we, we've here. i'm sorry i was just saying yes, the question that yes, so basically it with here like from a, from i with mrs. people who like get like her cli, should the her nation and all those there in the, in the feel it, when they basically said that she was, should, by the, is researchers. we so we saw that the, the command that and then the israelis, i'm gonna try to someone i, i hear that i hear that you, it, it's quite a complicated set up to explain because of the ops vacation. ok. because it's deliberately trying to israel deliberately trying to or appears to be that there to let me trying to confuse what we actually saw on what we actually know. so my

colleague sondra guffman is part of the digital series called start here. and she basically laid out the investigations and where the narrative was changed. dana, i want to have a listen to this and then responded immediately afterwards. hey, sondra. it appears likely that armed palestinians who were firing indiscriminately at the time were responsible and offered up a video of halcyon gunman in the area of but and out as your investigation examined the location of that video and concluded the gunshots fired in it. we're not connected to charlene's death, the israeli rights group, but it's a lem also examined the video and came to the same conclusion. the investigative organization, belin kat, later published a more detailed analysis using other publicly available data be worked out that

should in was here. these really army was here and that palestinian gunmen were also in the area here. so that's a further distance. it's a much more obstructed line of sight to the spot where, where it is tragic killing to place belling cats. conclusion is that the available video evidence does not provide good grounds to the doubt. the accounts of the journalists on the scene indeed appears to support them. yeah, i mean, it should be enough that the journalists that were eye witness, you know, providing eyewitness testimony. saw what happened and said that this is, you know, a targeted shooting and that they were not near any other armed factions. but the fact that all of these organizations have now confirmed whether it's al jazeera but santa bank had all the ones that were mentioned. just goes to show that that office cation is clearly like, it's very blatantly a strategy. there used this before with hama dora, they've used this since. ok,

and that's why i think that they lost that 1st round of the discourse online because people could see and these videos went viral. whereas, you know, they can't really fight that narrative any more. now they're switching it up. now they're saying something different about what happened with shitty. and even if it was a tragic mistake, they're claiming it is anti semitic to focus on it because journalists di everywhere. so why are we focusing on just israel shooting of this particular journalist? and you'll see that also in the oh yeah, go ahead. on a support you on this point, donna noticed the 1st reaction of those rates on the morning. one sure, what skins they put all their energy than the prime minister of israel, including the foreign ministry and the foreign minister of his dad wants me to do the same that you're trying to muddy the waters. that's what they did in the 1st few hours, was obviously

a very coordinated strategy to distort the news as fast as possible. that was last 3. 0 one wednesday morning. the luck i will, i will all it unto semitism. i to law may i add something just to support your point? not that you need extra support from me, but i'm going to bring it in from dina to corey, who's one of my colleagues at ha plus. and she basically shows the tactics the strategy very bowls very open, very transparent. take a look. the israeli government knows how to use it statements to manipulate mainstream media. and official even took credit for their quote p r blades saying they had successfully influenced the associated press and bbc coverage to cast doubt over who had killed should in july, please continue to go ahead my my conclusion was to, to not to not secure attention to today where the israeli official government, the envoy for anti semitism as she was newly appointed to combine semitism by this

unit government. and to day she came up with a message, obviously another part of their coordinated message distortion campaign. and she is saying that the international federation of journalist, documented over 2000 durham's skills over the last year. she questions why people are not talking about all those journals i've chosen sitting in. and she accuses people who are talking about studying of me and the symmetric. she did that in a very weird video that i just thought hours ago. how did the official envoy for the israeli government to combat antisemitism? she's accusing us of the and symmetric what our grief overshooting us the shuttle. i think. oh, i apologize. good. no, no, need to apologize. you are my guess, dana, you go 1st, i go 2nd. i have you to comment as who was i want to talk about cherry than a you go 1st and i'm going to ask you all, all of you to help me out with some of the questions our audience have and they want to ask me straight away dana, please continue. yeah, i just wanted to connect this. what's happening was in, in a bachelor's, a murder,

with a broader strategy, i think with the pro, pro israel, kind of a mil you are certain lobbies and groups, particularly in western countries. i can speak to the united states, they know that they are losing the, the, the battle over the discourse. because these images speak louder than any kind of propaganda can. so they are making a very direct and clear shift to these accusations of antisemitism. okay. we're seeing, it's particularly was, should in but this is a broader context. all right, let me open up the conversation guests to our audience as well. that delilah mc is this to you, was this a premeditated assassination? if so, why not? instead of investigating the sniper hold, the ones who issued the order to a out aloud is very briefly go ahead. i don't think there's any evidence to point to targeted story beyond the fact that they were targeted. as journalists,

there is no other in order to get pre mediated where she was the target. but the fact that the journalist, in my opinion is because the israeli army, when they entered, especially in refugee camp, they did not want any camera because every time they go in there, i mean, casualty every time they seem to work with their violent, extreme degree and lisa engineering, and they wanted to target anyone who was there, especially those documenting. and it's really mr. story spokesperson for the military or a big chief in the military has said that they are armed with cameras. don't you think? i remember armed cameras member clearly who are called running fine. a journalist if i may jump in on the same video that you showed us a to me like a few minutes ago, we have hm. listen to reported that video for facebook to highlight that as of this information and propaganda from the israeli government. because they usually use a social media platforms to spread their propaganda. and that this information to

cover also what they are usually spreading all over the edge to the spaces. and the only thing that we've year from meta is this is our, or this video did not violate their community standards. while when we palestinians are the common thing, human rights violations that we are exposed to on the ground entering that on the social media. they repeatedly have been taken down because the on the or on that they execute or claims of violating their community standards. and we can see this, like we can see, we can see this as a part of it. this is tim, it take it for its own part of the semitic efforts that you did. he seeks to silence palestinian voices and the just in the spaces and the killing of the theory and a american palestinian journalist. sheila barclays, part of that you did. it is for a like they seek to create the chilling effect. so whenever it like they feel that

there are like will, can, activists will, could journalists book and people or anything on the ground that you did it interrogate us. they, they surveil us, they arrest the us and sometimes the sentence us for months and therefore they did that for shooting because they know like trina's for like is a family member. we felt that we lost a family member because she is part of our childhood memory. and they intend to do that with trudy. and because they want us to have or to, to scare us and they want to terrify us and to have this kind of chilling effect more and more. ok, monassa. one of the things i said that we wanted to do at the very beginning of the it was one week after she rene's mother who will be held accountable on you choose coin, says the simple truth is no one will be held accountable. but a few hours ago we spoke to the human rights attorney, nora erik hat, and this is what she told us, have a listen, have

a look. accountability for the murder, the assassination of shipping. a barclay would look like a thorough impartial investigation that not only incriminated one single soldier who shot fired as shy the precision shot that were in her head. but the entire system that facilitated this process, there was a general who okayed the kill. there was a legal advisor who said that it was legal and there was a system that enabled these really occupation forces d engine, or they should not be on lands. they should not be on at all to be terrorizing the entire palestinian population living there was a system of apartheid and shaheen as one of its many victims, and one of his cruelest murders as talk about accountability in some detail. the system has to be held accountable, not the person who pulled the trigger. dana, you start? yeah, i think that that data at is,

is correct. and especially given that should ins it should ins kind of position out is that she is a holder of an american citizenship shooting a journalist as a war crime under u. s. law. ah, there is some talk i read recently on the intercept, some reporting that there are, there is a letter of circulating congress amongst democratic congress. people i'm calling for an f b i investigation and sending it to a secretary blinking. but i don't know how far that's going to go. i'm not to say that the american, you know, intervention is going to be beyond and all. but in an ideal world like this should have consequences between the united states and israel should have consequences. what have you seen to allow so far? i think he should have consequences and there is no faith in any way in this really investigation is there's never been faith and there were there is no more faith should in let us not forget that city. and only last month there was

a report by the i f g. then transportation of journalists. i said at least 46. and it's to me that journalists in boston were killed by israeli targeting since near 2000. and no one has been held accountable. okay. she is not the 1st that have been 4 to 6 without anyone being held accountable by. is there any forces? ok, so basically even they said m as in human rights group. they had that report maybe 67 years ago. scored, i think, shaking, and the occupations fig leaf, where they say they stop dealing at all with any missouri, any the court or any constitution because you don't want to give a fig leaf through this occupation whitewash the crimes because the whole system is built to cover up for those crimes, that's what they said. and so i said the system assists in white washing those crimes. therefore, there is no fee in that he can investigations, conduct the place where i am wondering this was a moment for all palestinians when they just stopped and paused because of sharina

legacy. how reporting? oh, i remember it. i grew up with it with a journalist and we will use to pretend to be that jealous. do the same side of she was that journalist where you pretend that you were that out 0. john is signing off doing that incredible reporting. she influence generations. so i am wondering where her murder falls in the history of the occupation of palestine. is it a milestone? is there something here that will change? will that be a date where people always remember the date that she died? there's nodding, there's this sir. so it would just go round all of you to because obviously you're all going to have different hatefulness as my, the revenge allow you saying the hatch with the murder, a collective memory of the person in people. that's what they've murdered emergency . i left the others dana?

yeah. so interestingly you, i think you have to day on this show people who are about the same age. i remember sitting kelley from the 2nd at the father, her putting on the 2nd at the father when we were children. i and her death is a blow, but i think it is kind of, i mean it's coincidental, but the fact that it comes a year after the unity and the father and we saw huge mobilizations in jerusalem. i'm joined by people from outside jerusalem a past in is from outside tourism as well. i not, you know, perhaps her death doesn't need to be in vain and it helped mobilize palestinians once again. um and i, i think that this is gonna, you know, i'm not saying that this is a critical juncture, but it is definitely a milestone in, in pushing the policies forward on this path to a unified mobilization. mona, it's a, is a mice, a minus tone,

like i remember when we were like old jen, we have this dream. we, we were, we went to grow up and we want to be like she in a box. we want to be she in a voc ledges from a lot of them all the all of us have this. yeah. own of us have repeated this sentence like repeatedly when we were young younger and i feel like yeah, it is a milestone. but we should built on that last year in the may uprising, we have like 2 at 2 weeks off palace senior, that is to me cause was the recent release was trending. and then everything like was almost calm down by the occupation never ends up or tide never ends. we are living on their systematic operation from a, from this a government tools or is from this regime was usually discriminating systematically against all palestinians everywhere. and because of that, it should, may lay, it should be a minus tone, but we should beltran that to have this kind of like,

we should have them accountable shooting of all the she is a journalist, but also other palestinians should not be sure. it's just because they are palestinians. we have the right to live in our lands. like shouldn't be a mighty storm, but it's also like should we should build on that for a longer term. and for, for longer term work. i want to bring in one more voice, and this is the voice of mock owing jones. we spoke to a few hours ago with some practical advice about how do we cover situations like sure ring apple at clays killing because as we were watching of the media outlets of a people talking about her, they were talking about it in a way that was different than if she hadn't been a palestinian, it appears. this is what mock i'd say to was earlier. israel like to

weaponized doubts. in other words, what they want to do is try to muddy the water of international public opinion. in this case, they tried to say that when they killed chevy, nebraska, that it was the palestinians who did it. and they want to do this as soon as possible. and in a way they were successful because international news organizations like the new york times b, b, c. and the guardian put israel side of the story pretty high up in number quoting. however, i think people are getting savvy about israel as an occupying and apartheid state, and increasingly doubting their official narratives what we need now, it's been news media to have different set of rules when reporting the narrative of an occupying an apostate state. mona is vigorously nodding articulate, you'll vigorous note rhoda. basically what israel is doing is continuing their digital militarism since like it says that social media platforms is started. they are trying to militarize, unsecure thighs, the spaces, their narrative and their propaganda. their hesper are when it's online,

they are minutes rising. those spaces when also they are like moving the online documentation to arrest people or they are taking advantage of the online, the conditions to arrest people. as gelatin mentioned at the beginning for that man who just was wounding and shootings and she's cascade, then they are. they are linking the online on the offline. they are linking or using or taking advantage of our documentation of a human of their human rights violations, to arrest us and to silence us. then they are working systematically to militarize that digital spaces. and because of that, we palestinians should think more how we are using social media platforms. can we show belt with our allies and the pro palestinians all around the world and other progressive movements? thank to mona pressure on the social media companies to stop doing that. the stuff that you got the last word in this conversation. thank you for being in it dana to

allow we appreciate you will take one week after the merger of our 0 colleague sharing apple at clay. gonna end here. we've got some sleep who is on youtube right now. the saddest part about sheens murder is that she'll be forgotten. not because we don't care about her, but because sadly its daily life every day we lose people. that's the life on the occupation. we definitely in al jazeera will not forget a family member. thank you for being part of today's show. i see next time they can had worked out as their english since its lordship, as a principal presenter and as a correspondent with any breaking news story, we want to hear from those people who would normally not get that voice is heard on an international news channels one moment i'll be very proud off was when we covered the napoleon quake of 2015 at the terrible natural disaster on the story that needs to be told from the hall of the affected area to be then to tell the

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