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all she was surprised to be just invited to can they didn't find any ah, articles covering this situation in your brain. i know i as a noise can knows the way that your ship works, but that it can use in route to do this because like, my son will be here, wait in danger. it's not just the festival banning some russian related project. some film companies have pulled titles, story russian axes act as you've clearly spoken out against the wall. the question is if culture is about building bridges, should all of them be bud? charlie angela al jazeera. ah, it's good to have with us. hello, adrian finnegan, here in doha, the headlines and al jazeera al jazeera obtained the footage showing that by was no
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fighting at the time that our colleague should be in trouble. our clay was killed by his worthy forces in the occupied westbank. it also shows gunshots came from a position where his worthy patrols was stationed. these were, the military says that it's not opening a criminal investigation into her death. ukraine's president says the eastern don bass region has been destroyed by russian forces and describes the situation that as hell, i'll just say, as i said, beg reports from crime, a task, especially those military personnel. the are serving on the front line that the russians are putting on a lot of pressure. and in fact, is very, very intense, intense where we come across this city had this town, in fact, has been hit by a russian missile strikes. so there isn't davy selling taking place. if you look around, most places aborted up this time had to population of around 200000 it's been reduced to about 40000. and you will see people going to buy the daily business because they feel that the fighting isn't here yet, but it's not very far. those were headlines that he's continues here on our sierra,
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off the inside story. ah, what. what do we need to know that on this which i don't need to be here when you look and i'm just going to put them to me and also to mention the training and most of the home and yeah, today and we're going to give you what we said as well, they didn't put me in . i'm a lot of them at the hospital, gave me yeah, when i don't i mean, i mean i
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shooting them off and just talk to al jazeera. we ask, what is the time table in your mind? when do you think that you are, can be off of russian gas? we listen when i have seen and played football with these refugees. i look at them and they're happy. they're smiling. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter. on our gc, could libya return to civil war? once again to rival fight ministers are jostling for power, triggering fighting in the capital, tripoli, elections are delayed and peace talks have made little progress. so what's next? this is insight story. ah
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hello, welcome to the program. i'm hashim aha, butler, people in libya voicing fears of a return to civil war. 2 rival governments signed a cease fire last year to and years of fighting following the fall of long timely them america half in 2011. they were supposed to work together and hold elections. but that hasn't happened on tuesday, the prime minister of the administration took try to install himself in the capital, tripoli that triggered st battles which killed at least one person and wounded 5. laura burton, molly reports a takeover a tent at the crack of dawn, the prime minister of the rival parliament in the eastern city of tab brook tried
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to enter living his capital on tuesday morning. but malicious loyal to the un recognized government and tripling open fire on his convoy hours a st. muscles for spicy by sugar and his ministers to retreat. he's moving his government for now to 3rd. a city half way between tripoli and tab brooke basha says he doesn't regret the takeover attempt saying leaders in tripoli or refusing to give up power to lock them out a little as f that government has worked to delay and undermine the election. he. they refused to go to the election approved by the international community and the u. n. we did not resort to force or insults. we followed a political process sort of a, his rival abdul, hamid de baber accused the shocker of an attempted coup. unity be the let your i to her the all the eyes of the libyans that i saw to day combined fear and panic. but
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there was hope and challenging them. home. the fear is to go back to the passes and to war, to violence, to chaos, to destruction and to smoke. and libya has been split between rival powers from the east and west. since long time lead and more, ama gadhafi was overthrown and killed. 11 years ago of the years of fighting un peace talks lead to a thief fly. in march of last year, the opposing sides came together and chose to baber, as the head at the national unity government and bought split 3 emerged december when elections with the phone because the disagreements on candidates and how to hold the boat. 2 months later, the to broke, both parliament chose fatty by sugar as prime minister. many libyan say they want the divisions to end up back in the funky bushes. put us in a very odd situation. the only solution for this conflict is holding elections.
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omaha, this, i'm going to be happy. those who are fighting for power can go fight in the desert and we will welcome whoever comes back. victorious frances urged all sides to respect the ceasefire. but until the rival administrations agree on a path forward, many libyans fear more violence to come. law about manly, for insight story. ah, let's bring in our guests in tripoli, sir la, held by cush, political analysts. iran, sylvia colombo, associate fellow in the mid range, middle east and africa program at the institute of international affairs in paris must awfully tory journalists and political commentator. welcome to the program, a sala. let's try to understand exactly what happened interpreter. so this is the prime minister. there was appointed by the tripoli by the ta brock,
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a part based parliament, fatty basher, got on his way to the capital to take over from the tripoli backed abdul hamid at the beaver. and suddenly st. battles erupted, who is to blame here? well, a bachelor. i tried several times to install himself in tripoli, and fails. on this time he tried to enter tripoli at 3 o'clock in the morning. i went to a house belonging to a military and armed group and tripoli. busy and he was a corner there at 5 'clock her in the morning. good to go. she ations started her with baby government that granted dashava and is a minister of hell, a safe passage out of the city. at the about 7 30 in the morning. her forces,
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the loyal to the unity government, accompanied bachelor, all the way to about 400 kilometers out of tripoli to their town of sheriff. when he was handed over to a part of the sierra death or military or a unit that it belongs to. half them, and the thing ended there right there. and then after some clashes and the area like your report adjusted and the killing of one person. sylvia, this does not really seem like ace nice lated incident. this looked like, or a deep or political divide that has never been solved. yes, indeed. i mean, we have seen her over the pastor or 9 months or so actually a growth intentions political tension, sir, within libya, after the 1st initial months of the government, of the,
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of the honey dba. it 2021. and it's part of a general attempt by political forces in libya to keep the conflict frozen in order to continue to benefit from the chaos the and from the situation of uncertainty. and this has, for example, been played out quite meaningfully in the way in which in late 2021 at the needed to undertake elections was confronted with the discussions about the need to start from revising the constitution and how the constitution should take precedence over the election and i mean all these discussions and they locate the blocks that have been put to the electro roadmap, have been just the way to boycott and lay a process that was very fragile from the very beginning. but that could have in the end, brought libya to the next stage. now we are kind of frozen in the situation of being
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really at the beginning of a transition. and a lot of uncertainty exists. and a lot of efforts that have been made in the past that and both can be one and a half since a cease fire was reached in late october 2020 have been wasted. ok. must suffer. so in 2021, the united nations are lead a political process to put an end to the instability in the country. that process, by the way, for of that had needed to be able to take over as prime minister then in february, this year the parliament into block decides to appoint fed habash arguer. as prime minister was this a legal law from a legal perspective? was it a legitimate decision by the to robust parliament? one thank you, hasn't we're having me. i think if you,
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if you consider the bar limit that gave me bare devote of confidence last march. and marcia law of last year, after he was elected by the libyan bullets, got the dialogue form. and, and tunisia, as you mentioned, if you consider that bon limon to be legally elected and legally and bower and its mandate has not expired. which, which is of course not true, then you have to accept that the, it's the same bon lemon that came back and voted mr. bush again. and we have to remember something very important here at the fact that they're the same bod limon is through mr. bay beth, devoid of gone with this at last september. so he became literally ease, legally speaking, a caretaker by a minister until elections, which was
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a bland for december. but that did that. did not happen. so did he gun at the issue here actually touch his everybody, you know, whether you say, if the bond amount is not legal, then it's not legal. and the 1st lady across the board, that means bringing in a given gay baby was of confidence. as i mentioned, then it's a legal as one ok. you can't really, you can't really say what's, well, it's a democratic legal bruises when you get the void of confidence and then when you lose that, and you're being replaced, you say, wow, that's a fraud. and us a understanding of a while, i ask that question about about the polymers, because you have 3 institutions here. you how the parliament, it's a book. you have the unity government based in tripoli, and you have the with the state council and the 3 institutions grading knows of problem for the international committee. and people trying to understand what is
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happening in libya for this is why i am going now to select on that this is what is happening as we speak the, the to block based parliament is saying that hippa saga has to take over. but hipaa saga has to oversee the drafting of a constitution though would be conducive to new elections. thou would usher in a new era in libya. people interpret are saying no, but him, i'm the hobby that be based not going to hand over power until the elections are held until there is a new legislature put into place. so we have, we have 2 different narratives here. we have 2 different well views here that let no occur. look what, oh what mr. victoria said is not very precise. ok. the parliament gave that baby government a vote of confidence. but mister fe, tories told you correctly that the government was not chosen by the
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parliament was chosen by the libyan political dialogue forum in geneva. so okay, you can, you can at the air, take back the vote of confidence which you gave the government by air by acclamation. but you can't install a new government, that's the business of the l. p d f which installed it baber. the parliament did not choose a babe the parliament as a matter of fact, mister bachelor and mister aggie leather. h o president. where on the opposing ticket to mr. it baber and mr. murphy and they lost in geneva. and that's why baby came to power. secondly, secondly, the article 3 of the road map is states that the, that the, that the mandate of the government extends 18 months provided that elections are held on the 24th of december 2021. which didn't happen as
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wide baber, which did not happen. so that's why they been saying would some, i guess justification that he will, he will hand over power to an elected government. the thing is that the thing that we have to understand is that neither of baber nor bashar are the important thing here. the poor thing is that we need elections. so we can get rid of her at the, the high council of state and the parliament which have been in power for 10 years and jointly are responsible for carry transitional governments. okay. given labor keeping at bay, that is the only leverage we have to force these 2 bodies to give up power. and as fact, the elections that 2800000 people demand by wrestling for the election. sylvia,
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it's is of it is good is there's absolutely no way to have elections in libya and unless you bridge the divide between the east and the west, which has been the main reason why we're having this progress. and for this, i would like to ask you, do you think that this is the ultimate problem of the international community of the you and in particular, which has failed to deliver on the promise to unify the libyans. while there are a few points here, are we know by experience of other countries that elections are ultimately and by nature devises. so in the countries of child libya, it's very difficult to use elections as building tool. and this is not gonna, this is not going to work, but the same time as the previous speaker has outlined 5, correct me. we can't, we can't obtain that to a new stage. we can't overcome the current deadlock. if we don't,
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to move to new legitimacy, new or legitimate or for issues that can really address problems and leave us problems, are not the institutional problems. there are other issues and security issue. of course i don't. so i cannot make issues that people care much more about and what it will them. so the 2nd point about the, the international community. i mean, the, i think the failure of the un that i'm in is due to many manufacturers. of course, the end, the barclays is also due to the fact that the b u and i'm in the road map and the way have been managed has the depleted receipt of this institution in the oblivion . people, we know that there is also a looming deadline for the mondays of the un mission, libya end of july this year, which is quite important to recall. and so we don't know exactly what will happen
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and the just now, what's the external players are starting to realize that the, if the, this mandate is not really we will lose the external the rational committee will lose in terms of being able to influence or to support the libyan the transition. whatever form is also true that in the past 12 years it hasn't been very as well because of men resistant. think from the again, people themselves, he's every, the un mass of them must suffer. the, the, the, that, the tripoli based in nash unity government has always been skeptical of any attempt by that turbo based parliament to move forward. they say they are being manipulated by the most powerful man in the east, or holly for half turtle, or gast rate, a qu to undermine the people in the,
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in the west. what do you think would be the next reaction for halley? for after a guess, the backdrop of this political deadlock, well i, i don't really expect much from mind, but typically speaking from mr. after, at the moment, i think everybody is like he to wait and for dirt firm position if you like, until after mid june or 23rd of june as the road mad. a brokered by stephanie williams last year or come to an end, which means that the government of mr. baber will also come to an end. and that's, that's the big problem. that's the big question mark, because what will happen then? i think basically, what has been happening in libya, says 2011 says the foreign military intervention, or the lack of contingency plans, if you like, or blan a and to blame b,
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which means by which i mean, if your blend a fails, do you have a plan b, now to implement that plan that has not happened in 2011 because what happened, danny was, libyans were promised a bar dies, you know, and their country for democracy and economic growth. once the good that he and his government are gun, the following day. they are gun and deadly be ended up where it is today. there was no blame be the same thing happened there on 1st problem. what with with mr. bay, but was the fact that he bribed his way into the de bolster for by a minister without a brother investigation from the united nations at the time. so that that was in november. i mean in tunisia during dia, dia de la session, and they will be political dialog continues before they move in as tapia sala,
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they, when you look at the situation now, libya where were, were when that when the divide was going on, you create a, some sort of regional realignment, it shifts the u. e and russia, they were providing support for the east caught our turkey, were providing support for the west. is it is, is the image is the political landscape still the same? that definitely are as far as, as the emperor's, his concern is no longer providing the support it was providing have that before it has been reduced tremendously. if not stopped altogether. it found, i guess in the baby i know the quantity the market is noah davis. since he was a high government official,
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the good that few regime and they seem to be comfortable with with them and down constant communication. the exemptions don't want elections because elections mean definitely that i get a thought. i have not going to be back as head of the parliament, an after her will, will be under great pressure because he's always claimed he has always claim that he will only submit to an elected government in libya. and they know that a new were elected their government, libya may not guarantee the survival of after. so these emissions are adamant about opposing elections and supporting agular sala and after. i also noticed that half current i gala, there were the ones who oppose the government. a. 3 d, a g at the g n a, the government of national concord of mr. so raj, since is beginning and that government was born out of the federal agreement
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between the parliament and dia, g, and c at that time. have cur. again, after agreement between the, the parliament and the air, or how the high council of state and other of marty's geneva up declared 3 months after the after the government got it, sir, mandate from the parliament that he does not recognize his government. and then mister baber from entering the east door to south louise auto. that's why yeah. so that's why stephanie williams in her opening speech and and kyle said, we tried everything. she right, transitional government. we tried power sharing agreement. we have to go to election because all other solutions and she also said when it consensus sylvia, do you think that with the kyra talks that could be an opportunity to reconcile some of the differences between the key architects, particularly the turks,
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the egyptians, the amenities, the authorities about how to move forward. well, because little of been crafted in a way to kind of go viral love to the, the process that started in berlin in january 2020. and that there was the building to conference one year ago. and i don't see why the current so should succeed in bringing, you know, the regional layer of the backers of the different factions. yet to i mean the common terms, particularly because the, as i said, the title a doesn't have an interest in a leveling the playing field and allowing the libyans to choose freely. we're going to be going to be with them. so i don't really trust this process to have any meaningful results. it is a good opportunity for the time being is to keep the channels of communication open
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. but i don't think it's gonna solve the right, told them. and this is an example of the fact that the regional players are back in, in the field, the in controlling the process because international community at large and particularly as kind of lost control of the situation. most of this must be a very delicate moment for the libyan people. there. they're looking at the situation. the politicians are jostling for paula, i'm bigger, say under the same time the concern that this could be conducive to civil war once again in the country. well, however, unlikely the possibility of another civil war zone was there in libya, as always of a bigger discount. present trends can do. we have to remember that the disk has increased since the end of mr. half there, on the fire, last 5 minutes commission, which brought in the cease fire and 2020 has already suspended. it's
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worth the submission, the whole 5 of them. and they not just data data commanded to must after to suspend . consider to cease fire is suspended and may even ask them to take certain measures to make sure that it is not in place anymore. and then of course they, as usual they, he accused the other side, the government, g, n, e o n n a y, a late in the terms of the sci fi, and they are partly right in this khaki zation. because mr. baby, when the shadow was both, then last february took certain measures that really violated the seas via but but, but not in terms of my while answer. i'm thinking again, yes, thank you. thank you very much. it must have half attorney, sylvia colombo,
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