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has the world forgotten about the ro hangup? the un high commissioner for refugees urges more help for a 1000000 people stuck in camps in bangladesh. so what must be done to support one of the world's most persecuted minorities? this is insightful. ah hello and welcome to the program. i ma'am jim, jim. it's been called one of the world's forgotten crises. the u. n. is demanding international support for ringo refugees struggling to survive in camps in bangladesh. they were forced to leave their homes and me and more nearly 5 years ago, when the military launched a crack down against the mainly muslim minority. many were killed and raped in what the u. s. recently called a genocide. 5 years on the ringa are still trying to escape on saturday. at least
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17 drowned when their boat capsized in bad weather off the coast to me and mars western wreck and state. the un high commissioner for refugees, for legal grande is in bangladesh to discuss helping the ring to return to me and more. but talks have stalled, since last year, when me and mars military took power in a coo, grande's his bangladesh student should not be left to shoulder the burden of looking after there were hunger refugees on its own. we have the m m a random of understanding with the authorities in man matter which has recently been extended by the defacto authorities. this is a good site will continue to engage in order to help create those conditions. but we need to patience. this is why it's so important to continue to support by rubbish, while it continues to host almost a 1000000 refugees from younger. well, i'm here in bangladesh. also to highlight
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that in spite of the enormous attention and resources that understandably and brightly are put into the response to the ukraine crisis. and before that, you remember, we spoke about afghanistan for months. that in spite of that, those other crises, their power, frankly, off the radar screen. and off most of the news, they must not be forgotten. there's a 1000000 people in those camps. and that's a lot of people and there's a 100000000 refugees and displaced. we have passed up awful mark for the 1st time. since we are recording this figures just a few days ago and all these crises be they here in asia, in africa, in the middle east, in latin america, they have to have also a pension. they cannot be forgotten because people suffer anywhere because of humanitarian crises, whether they ukrainians or other nationalities. and we cannot let the school. all
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right, let's remind you of how this crisis unfolded. me and mars crackdown began in 2017, in what you in, investigators called genocidal intent. more than a 1000000 people were forced to flee to bangladesh in 2018 me and more in bung with as she officials promised to begin safe voluntary repeat relations. but nothing has happened yet. in 2020 bangladesh began moving people to the island of bustle, char, as a way to deal with overcrowding in the camps. last december authorities began closing schools and the camps. and in january repatriation talks resumed. but many ringo say it's still not safe to go back. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in cox's bazaar, emerald islam advocacy manager in bangladesh at the norwegian refugee council. in vancouver yasmina la, a ro hang a social justice activist and ins. last week, germany ambia, praveen chair, person of the european bro, hang a council,
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a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story. yes, me, let me start with you today. you and i have had a version of this discussion many times in the past. you work very hard to try to raise awareness with regard to the plight of ringer. from your perspective, has the world forgotten about the rank? i believe the world didn't care in the 1st place. i think that there is a miss nowhere. and a lot of miss placement of prioritization when it comes to ranger lives and on the exodus have now lived in the camps for almost 5 years. this is the 5th year. we still haven't figured out a way to treat bringer refugees with kindness and humanities that they actually deserve. and education is still an issue that, you know is, is so contested with in bunkerville, on whether or not a 12 year old could further,
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you know, pursue their, their educational goals. children are still stuck with curriculum that is just a disaster. and so many schools have been close recently. it's almost, almost, as i felt that, you know, wrangled children, 300000 of them actually does not matter in the 1st place. and you know, this is over a plethora of other issues that is just further driving ringer into the corner. i think that this, this coming down of ranking your livelihood and am, and the snipping of opportunities for your children very specifically are actually closing in on us and, and making us suffocate. therefore, we're going to have to find ways to innovate and actually traffic ourselves into other countries, you know, becoming a larger security problem when it's in fact not really
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a security problem. it is because of the nic light. it is because of the, the misnomer and, and the, the problems of actually prioritizing, you know, where we, where we need to, to meet the me, to meet the needs suffering. and the 1st place ambia, jasmine just brought up a very important issue. and that, that involves education and what a struggle it's been for rowing go. refugee chilled and to be able to be in, in classrooms whether in, in bangladesh or, or even in men. why one time i was in the camps and cox's bazaar. i was interviewing rowing a refugee children who were telling me that the education crisis went back even before the current crisis. that when they were in me and more in rack and state that they couldn't attend schools. that members of the military would not let them get to the schools they were supposed to go to last december and bangladesh. authorities began closing schools in the camps in cox's was our how much does that were you? how big of a crisis is this?
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and thank you for having me and it's a very important question. and we all know that education is not a very human right. and then a right now we were deprived from education. there is a who to continue it atrocities for many years for many decades because they went to platform education. you know what the right, just to say justin and coming back in 2017 over 1000000. unless you really had, i mean, they come up but never they have to pay for the b c need of education. and, and, you know, the last year december,
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they have been closing the schools which were and community based that the teachers and some of the went to do with. and then you can because of the know, the education will not be able to move or b a bother. you should be able to get a 60 percent. are our children out of town? then are you who are we? we should be going to the university and attending school, no impact the schools. we have to know the name of the,
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of this, occlusal, the slim, of getting a division these in the hour you would get to the terminal to the terrorism, to the other issue, which might not only become a bonus, but also really a, me and a need or human right, the should be provided to us. and you know, i never even part of that. i already vision that i mean, only been to our rights than the other thing. emma, i want to get your perspective on this to your group. the norwegian refugee council, there was a statement from them a few months back. it said that since were hang, are not legally recognized as refugees in bangladesh. they cannot attend traditional schools, formal education remains unreachable for many of the 450000 ro, hunger children, and young people in the camps. so let me ask you from your perspective,
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what options do ro hang your children have right now? thank you so much for having me and it's an honor to be part of. i want to focus on the, the slightly big picture here as well and, and talk a little bit about regional responses to a because when you look at the rank community and you look at the states in the regent, you will see rang being turned away, incarcerated exploited and forced relief a treated in one country after. and you will see as we saw only this week and drownings, and that's it. see as refugees, the refuge. so when you tell me where to refugees turn, it's not a pretty picture, right? because you're leaving a community with very little progress. but the responsibility for refugees is regional and it's global. if you look at the funding right now should look at the response, the joint response plan. as of today, if 13 percent funded, that comes out to about $0.30 per refugee per day. we are at the end of me
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preparing for a long summer of storms and the monsoon season. if you look at where that funding, but his van too, it's all been protection programming protection programming for some of our partners have been flashed in half. these are programs targeted ad survivors of abuse at children's ad refugees with disabilities. so it's targeting the most vulnerable of an already valuable community. at a time when go visit and extreme weather events have already left a trail of destruction and dread. so you don't have a pretty picture and cause you have you have what is not attainable situation at all. it requires a lot political will. that is not forthcoming. sadly, emerald, i mean, let me just follow up with you for 2nd, 2 of you know, phillip grandy, the un high commissioner for refugees. he's been in bangladesh, he's been touring the camps meeting with refugees. he's urging more a help for
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a 1000000 people stuck in camps in bangladesh. from your point of view, what are some immediate steps that that could be taken, that that could, that could alleviate some, some of the suffering that, that could make the situation just a little bit less dire. for one of the most persecuted minorities in the world. i say the see, i think the interventions need to be political up to be very honest because humanitarian is, cannot solve a crisis. we can advocate for it. we can privately engage our regional leaders. right. but it is honestly an atrocious indictment of regional leaders that up entire people and an entire community are unwanted everywhere, as yasamin said. and honestly, we urge and we see each regional leaders to gather the political courage and to, and political things along with human life that i think is what is required in the interim. you have deprivation and especially in the camps. and that will require in
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gauging refugees and the decisions that define their lives that will take community engagement that will take accountability to the affected communities we work with. and for. yes, mean one of the things that i heard most frequently when i started going to the rank a refugee camps and cox, the bizarre and 2017. i was hearing 1st hand from those who had suffered almost unspeakable atrocities at the hands of me and mars genta and, and they were telling me that what they went through was in their words, a genocide. now it took a while longer before you had, you know, you in investigators say that they believe that the trustees were carried out with genocidal intent. it took longer for certain governments to designate what happened as a genocide. just just in march, the united states declared me and mars mass killing of, of there were hunger. to be a genocide. i want to ask you, how significant was it that that designation was made by the us. and is that going
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to change anything when it, when it comes to trying to get justice for those who suffered so much? if we talk about the, the most heinous crimes that humans ever, you know, commit or humans ever come across. it is genocide. and it's important to actually validate victims and survivors in the camps and tell them that actually what you've gone through truly is a genocide. it's the most hideous of crimes that human ever have seen. and at the same time, you know, governments are actually willing very specifically the u. s. government, my own government, me and canadian government are making a commitment in that sense that they are willing to actually meet the threshold of what it is that is that their responsibility on. they need to, you know, they, they need to be able to actually pull those responsibilities and actually protect
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these population. and at the same time for the ring, you know, the goals are rehabilitation. and however, i have seen that the, the, the words and the gestures are made especially, you know, on, on here the humanitarian grounds. but it is not done as in rule as imply. it is not done actually in good faith. it is done to, to just basically silence us for awhile with you know, a few new developments that actually does not cater to the population. does not cater to the problems that we're facing on the ground without our consultation without the belief that the participation of the people and, and, and they're expecting that the result will come out, you know, a satisfactory. and this is the problems i think with, with the humanitarianism in general, that it is not done from the bottom of it is don from top down. and oftentimes,
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you know, the needs of the people are not met. and therefore, you know, other problems will actually spill out of it. because education, you know, requirements is not met when it is truly a human rights such a trial should be able to seek education regardless of what their status maybe and other human security needs should be met. i'm and, and these are just, you know, problems of neglect and, and problems of, of ignorance. when it comes to people, we're actually working with the writing people in the 1st place. there are so much more that our people are willing and capable of doing. we've managed to survive these, this genocide for 70 years. we can survive for longer as long as we need to survive . but, but the international community needs to do its part to give us a tool to actually survive on our own. we are going to run into problems of and dried up funds from the international aid. but all people have been able to manage to survive on their own sufficiently. because we know how to farm,
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we know how to fish. we know how to actually be crafting and use what we have around us. why not actually amplify those abilities? why not amplify those skills in the camps regardless of how much you want to securitized accounts. just give us those few abilities to actually contribute to the society so that when we actually do truly go back, we are not just helpless group of people and we can truly reintegrate right away and become a valued members of society. ambia, we talk a lot about situation for working or refugees, especially the ones who are in the camps in bangladesh. i want to ask you though, what's the situation like currently for the ringo who are still in me and more. who are in rec, i'd say, what is, what is life like for them? i'm, you know, we have very often contacts and the calendars, especially most of my beloved relative to living in our state. and the situation is
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due to 18 before there was an interest of the international community finding out gauging the me and my government and the civil government to find out to help. and almost up recently after the cooper and the prices and the war between the russian create, our people have been a lot of already. and especially in a way to the atrocities which is not brought up in the media. and the provision which was a, posted by the i c j and still there, these are, these are going on that i, you can see recently and there are we went, we are trying to move the dangerous days to malaysia or to young traveling. and all this is, this shows that how people are still desperate. how still the people are still in
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the need to leave and decided that this 120000 i'm yeah, it's situation. there are no mention of it and they are still living in this one. it comes with depression on the, on the face. there is a fictional movement. there is no enough food and there's not enough water enough that you know of the situation is me for you to really change. but social media we, i want to bring on the social media and especially the one disengaged the other issues . and unfortunately, i know the have moved up a flight off of work with to be easy. i take time with the i, c, c with the other 2 regions and the u. s. great. as my digital life and the media and the netherlands, but still need more to do. and the one, yes,
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one living home, one media in the record you can get so i want them to maintain dental hygiene to a basic, right. you know, and especially for you and you have been, you pricing is very want a community that all the good come the most in addition to come and the other crisis because there would be maybe a father that does not mean that a lot the of the already became a party, a party, right to the agent. kind of like the listing is known as a like, like the cost me, the better of any people on the phone and getting the line. you're on your own people what,
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why i don't want to enroll. i saw you nodding along to a lot of what ambia was just saying there, and i want to actually get you to, to describe for our viewers a little bit of what life is like in, in the camps right now. i mean, i spent a lot of time reporting from those camps and cox's bizarre to this day. it's still hard for me to try to describe just how dire the situation was, what, what i witnessed. and that was several years ago. give us a snapshot of what life is like and what is it that the day to day challenges for the refugees? it stagnant, i think. but the one image that i was recalling as i was hearing on the and yes news is if you go to the camps in tech class, i was flight hilly. but as you approached the camps, you see the hills of rock. it's that close up and it truly must fi. this is not something i have ever experienced, but it truly must be tortuous to be that close to home and yet be so incredibly far
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away. right? so life in the camps. but from what we hear from the refugees and communities, we work with organizations and individuals who work with there's hope is scarce. right opportunities scar, sir. ah, look, durango want the same things you and me want and everyone else what's right, they want the future for themselves. and a future for their children, they just want a fair shot. and that i think is, is, has been denied to their anger for, for a very, very long time. yes. mean we just have a couple of minutes left, a as somebody who, who is always trying to ensure that the rowing go get the attention that they deserve and, and that they get the justice that, that, that they deserve. um, how, how do you keep going? how do you keep that hope alive when you see that the international community continues to look away when you see that it seems to get harder and harder for the
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plight of the working go to to stay in the headlines to be written about to be reported on what do you do in order to, to keep that fire going and to try to ensure that those stories are still told. i know that my people have been strong capable, resilient and ah, they are willing to actually put up a fight to actually continue to live, survive and contribute to this world. there are so many we get, i asked for i like dr. india. and many of my colleagues who have the opportunity, i'm on the outside working hard to actually ensure that our people's voices are heard and amplify them. these are the group of people who should actually become examples of what is possible for ringer refugees. and for those who are actually
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stuck in precursor conditions around the world before they resettle that, you know, these are the people were actually able to do things there. now contributing members of the society around the world, they're doing so much work for their own community. and, and, and the communities around them. this is the group of people we need to actually look at as inspiration on how to free writing your, on how to actually open up doors for us. now, i hold dear my community in our capacity in our work to actually continue to survive. but also we have rich histories. we're actually not destitute people. we don't look like this. we don't always constantly ask for the world to help us. we're only asking for initial funds, initial tools casually get us going. we are capable, more than capable of doing this work ourselves. you should have to listen to us on what we actually need in order for you to do in order for us to actually be lifted enough to continue to support ourselves on in the long term. well,
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i certainly wish we could keep the conversation going, but we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave it there. thanks so much. all of our guests in rural islam. jasmine, alum and ambia, prevent and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also, during the conversation on twitter handle is an e. j inside story from him hammered him during the whole thing. hendo huh. bye for now. ah ah
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