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in one voice, forming a blog at this point for a foam is, is very essential for us to be able to confront the current establishment the 40s. we know that they are very powerful. we know how much they have leverage of us. those parties also have supporters who have shown willingness to use violence, even destroying opposition. symbols such as setting fire to the iron fist in the epicenter of the protest movement that came to represent the people's resistance and determination gone or are the crowds. their voices are now inside parliament, but the traditional party still retained the majority of seats. they are the dominant force. it's still a resilient regime, and opponents remain fragmented. to be genuinely kingmaker, they will have to form a united, coherent to block. they will have to form alliances with other groups. they might not have the influence a sink as they will have
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a they will certainly offer dissenting opinions. they will raise their voices. they will criticize certain policies, but when it comes to passing the new legislation, they will face a stumbling block. ah, no doubt, there is a new beginning, but not all is well in lebanon. were political dynamics after the election may not be much different than before. seneca, there also is eda, beirut ah logan. i'm fully back to go. with the headlines on al jazeera, china's foreign minister is in the solomon islands, as beijing seeks to expand its influence across the south pacific. it's put forward plans for a sweeping economic and security agreement with 10 island states. this has raised concerns among western nations. vigils have been held across the usa to texas after an 18 year old gunman opened fire and killed 19 primary school. children in 2
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teachers choose a school shooting is worse in the u. s. in a decades. the mayor of keith has sold the world economic forum in davos that russia's war in ukraine is a genocide. his comments come as the ukrainian military's, his russian forces shells more than 40 towns in the eastern dumbass region. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. we'll be back with more news for you right after inside story to stay with us. ah, what. what do we need to know that on this, which i don't need to be active in the mac, and i'm just going to put them on the dimensions of the new pocket, ultimately sell at home and ya today. and i'm
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has the world forgotten about the ro hinder the u ins. high commissioner for refugees urges more help for a 1000000 people stuck in camps in bangladesh. so what must be done to support one of the world's most persecuted minorities? this is insightful. ah hello and welcome to the program. i manage m jerome. it's been called one of the world's forgotten crises. the u. n. is demanding international support for rethink a refugee struggling to survive in camps in bangladesh. they were forced to leave their homes and men more nearly 5 years ago when the military launch to crack down against the mainly muslim minority. many were killed and raped in what the u. s. recently called a genocide 5 years on the remainder are still trying to escape on saturday. at
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least 17 drowned when their boat capsized in bad weather off the coast of mia mars western rac kind state. the un high commissioner for refugees, for legal grande is in bangladesh to discuss helping there were kinda returned to me and more, but talks if stalled, since last year, when me and mars military took power in a coo, grande's his bangladesh student should not be left to shoulder, the burden of looking after the ringer refugees on its own we have the it may, miranda, i'm of understanding with the authorities in myanmar which has recently been extended by the de facto authorities. this is a good site. we'll continue to engage in order to help create those conditions. but we need to patience. this is why it's so important to continue to support bangladesh while it continues to host almost a 1000000 refugees from younger. well, i'm here in bangladesh. all saw tall highlights
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that in spite of the enormous attention and resources that understandably and brightly are put into the response to the ukraine crisis. and before that, you remember, we spoke about afghanistan for months. that in spite of that, those other crisis, they power, frankly, off the radar screen. and off most of the news, they must not be forgotten. there's a 1000000 people in those camps. and that's a lot of people and there's a 100000000 refugees and displaced. we have passed that awful mark for the 1st time . since we are recording this figures just a few days ago and all these crises be they here in asia, in africa, in the middle east, in latin america, they have to have also attention. they cannot be forgotten because people suffer anywhere because of humanitarian crisis, whether that ukrainians or other nationalities and we cannot let the school. all
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right, let's remind you of how this crisis unfolded. me and marz crackdown began in 2017, in what you and investigators called genocidal intent. more than a 1000000 people were forced to flee to bangladesh in 2018 men, more in bung with as she officials promised to begin safe voluntary repatriation. but nothing has happened yet. in 2020 bangladesh began moving people to the island of bustle, char, as a way to deal with over crowding in the camps. last december authorities began closing schools and the camps. and in january repatriation talks resumed, but many road angus say it's still not safe to go back. ah. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in cox's bizarre, emerald islam advocacy manager in bangladesh at the norwegian refugee council. in vancouver, yes, mino, la abraham, social justice activist. and in celeste week germany ambia, praveen chair,
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person of the european bro. hang a council, a warm welcome to you all and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story. yes, me, let me start with you today. you and i have had a version of this discussion many times in the past. you work very hard to try to raise awareness with regard to the plight of ringo. from your perspective has the world forgotten about the rank? i believe the world didn't care in the 1st place. i think that there is a misnomer and a lot of miss placement of prioritization when it comes to ranger lives. and on the exodus have now lived in the camps for almost 5 years. this is the 5th year. we still haven't figured out a way to treat bringer refugees with kindness and humanities that they actually deserve. education is still an issue that, you know is, is so contested with in bunkerville, on whether or not a 12 year old could further,
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you know, pursue their, their educational goals. children are still stuck with curriculum that is just a disaster. and so many schools have been close recently. it's almost almost as if a that, you know, wrangled children, 300000 of them actually does not matter in the 1st place. and you know, this is over a plethora of other issues that is just further driving ringer into the corner. i think that this, this coming down of your livelihood and am, and the snipping of opportunities for your children very specifically are actually closing in on us and, and making us suffocate. therefore, we're going to have to find ways to innovate and actually traffic ourselves into other countries, you know, becoming a larger security problem when it's in fact not really
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a security problem. it is because of the nic light. it is because of the, the misnomer and, and the, the problems of actually prioritizing, you know, where we, where we need to, to meet the me, to meet the needs suffering. and the 1st place ambia, jasmine just brought up a very important issue in that that involves education and what a struggle it's been for rowing go refugee chill in a to be able to be in, in classrooms whether in, in bangladesh or, or even in me and my one time i was in the camps and cox's bizarre i was interviewing, running a refugee children who were telling me that the education crisis went back even before the current crisis. that when they were in me and more in rack and state that they couldn't attend schools, that members of the military would not let them get to the schools they were supposed to go to last. december and bangladesh. authorities began closing schools in the camps in cox's was our how much does that were you? how big of a crisis is this?
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and thank you for having me. and it's a very important question. and we all know that education is not here basic, but it's also very human rights and, and then the one. yeah. i said just right now we were deprived from education there for a man who to continue. it's across cities for many years for many decades because we want to know what the right just to say. i'm coming back in 2017 over 1000000. bundling nobody had, i mean they come out but never they have to pay for the b. c. need of education and, and you know,
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the last year from december they have been closing the schools, which were a community based that the teachers and some of the went to do with. and then you can, because the mo, the age you should not be able to move a rags bother. you should be able to get a 60 percent. are our children out of the day? how often are you who are waiting? we should be going to the university and attending school, no impact the schools. we have to know the name of the,
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of this and the person, the school and not getting the division did in the hour. you can get to the terminal to the terrorism, to the other issue, which might not only become a bonus, but also really a me and the needy or human right. the should be provided to us and, you know, providing us other busy necessity in what i already division that only been to our rights. then we go back to the emerald. i want to get your perspective on this to your group, the norwegian refugee council. there was a statement from them a few months back. it said that since were hang, are not legally recognized as refugees in bangladesh. they cannot attend traditional schools, formal education remains unreachable for many of the 450000 ro hang good children and young people in the camps. so let me ask you from your perspective,
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what options do ro hang your children have right now? thank you so much for having me and it's an honor to be part of. i want to focus on the, the slightly bigger picture here as well. and, and talk a little bit about regional responses to a because when you look at the rank the community and you look at the states in the regions, you will see rang being turned away. incarcerated, exploited, and force really treated in one country after. and you will see, as we saw only this week, drownings in desperate c as record used for refuge. so when you tell me where to refuse turn, it's not a pretty picture, right? because you're using a community with very little progress. but the responsibility for refugees is regional and it's global. if you look at the funding right now should look at the response of joint response plan. as of today, if 13 percent funded, that comes out to about $0.30 per refugee per day. we are at the end of me
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preparing for a long summer of storms and the monsoon season. if you look at where that sunday but has gone too, it's all been protection programming protection programming for some of our partners have been flashed in half. these are programs targeted ad survivors of abuse ad children's ad refugees with disabilities. so it's targeting the most vulnerable of an already valuable community. at a time when go visit and extreme weather events have already left a trail of destruction and dread. so you don't have a pretty picture and cause you have you have what is not attainable situation at all. it requires a lot political will. that is not forthcoming. sadly, emerald, let me, let me just follow up with you for a 2nd. 2 of you know, phillip grandy, the un high commissioner for refugees. he's been in bangladesh, he's been touring the camps meeting with refugees. he's urging more help for
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a 1000000 people stuck in camps in bangladesh. from your point of view, what are some immediate steps that that could be taken, that that could, that could alleviate some, some of the suffering that, that could make the situation just a little bit less dire. for one of the most persecuted minorities in the world. i say to see, i think the interventions need to be political up to be very honest because humanitarians cannot solve a crisis. we can advocate for it. we can privately engage our regional leaders, right. but it is honestly an atrocious indictment of regional leaders that entire people and an entire community are unwanted everywhere, as yasamin said. and honestly, we urge and we see each regional leaders to gather the political courage and to end political things along with human life that i think is what is required in the interim. you have deprivation and dispossession account and that will require in
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gauging refugees and the decisions that define their lives that will take community engagement that will take accountability to the effect of communities we work with . and for yazmin, one of the things that i heard most frequently when i started going to the rank a refugee camps, and cox the bizarre in 2017. i was hearing 1st hand from those who had suffered almost unspeakable atrocities at the hands of me and mars genta and, and they were telling me that what they went through was in their words, a genocide. now it took a while longer before you had, you know, you in investigators say that they believe that the trustees were carried out with genocidal intent. it took longer for certain governments to designate what happened as a genocide. just just in march, the united states declared me and mars mass killing of, of there were hunger. to be a genocide. i want to ask you, how significant was it that that designation was made by the us. and is that going
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to change anything when it, when it comes to trying to get justice for those who suffered so much? if we talk about the, the most heinous crimes that humans ever, you know, commit or humans ever come across. it is genocide. and it's important to actually validate victims and survivors in the camps and tell them that actually what you've gone through truly is a genocide. it's the most hideous of crimes that human ever have seen. and at the same time, you know, governments are actually willing very specifically the u. s. government and my own government. me, are canadian government are making a commitment in that sense that they're willing to actually meet the threshold of what it is that is that their responsibility they need to, you know, they, they need to be able to actually pull those responsibilities and actually protect
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the population and at the same time for the ring, you know, the goals are rehabilitation. however, i have seen that the, the, the words and the gestures are made especially, you know, on, on here the humanitarian grounds. but it is not done as in rule as imply. it is not done actually in good faith. it is done to to just basically silence us for awhile with you know, few new developments that actually does not cater to the population. does not cater to the problems that we're facing on the ground without our consultation, without the bill at the participation of the people and, and, and they're expecting that the result will come out, you know, a satisfactory. and this is the problems i think with, with the humanitarianism in general, that it is not done from the bottom of it is don from top down. and oftentimes,
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you know, the needs of the people are not met. and therefore, you know, other problems will actually spill out of it. because education, you know, requirements is not met when it is truly a human rights such a trial should be able to seek education regardless of what their status maybe and other human security needs should be met. um and, and these are just, you know, problems of neglect and, and problems of, of ignorance. when it comes to people, we're actually working with the range of people in 1st place. there are so much more that our people are willing and capable of doing. we've managed to survive these, this genocide for 70 years. we can survive for longer as long as we need to survive . but, but the international community needs to do its part to give us a tool to actually survive on our own. we are going to run into problems of a dried up funds from the international aid, but all people have been able to manage to survive on their own sufficiently.
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because we know how to farm, we know how to fish. we know how to actually be crafting and use what we have around us. why not actually amplify those abilities? why not amplify those skills in the camps regardless of how much you want to securitized accounts. just give us those few abilities to actually contribute to the society so that when we actually do truly go back, we are not just helpless group to people and we can truly reintegrate right away and become a valued members of society. ambia, we talk a lot about situation for working or refugees, especially the ones who are in the camps in bangladesh. i want to ask you though, what's the situation like currently for the ringo who are still in me and more. who are in rec, i'd say, what is, what is life like for them? ah, you know, we have very often contacts in the ground and especially most of my beloved relative to living in our state. the situation is due to eating.
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before there was an interest of the international community finding out gauging the government and the civil government to find out to help. and almost out recently after the cooper and the price is in the war between the russian create, our people have been promoted and especially in a way through the atrocities which is not brought up in the media. and the provision which was a i, c, j and still there, these are, these are going on that i, you can see recently and there are we went, we are trying to move the dangerous these to malaysia are too young traveling to all those shows. and how people are still desperate,
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how still the people are still in a dangerous and need to leave and decided that this 120000. i'm yeah, it's situation. there are no mention of it and they are still living in this one. it comes with a show on the, on the face, there is a fictional movement. there is no food. and there's not enough water enough that you know of the situation is me for you to really change. but social media we, i want to bring on the social media and especially the one disengaged the other issues . and unfortunately, i don't know the have moved up a fight off of work with to be used. i. c g, i'm going to take time with the i c c with the other 2 h a n dot u s. as my digital media and the bus is more to do. and the one, yes,
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one living want media in the record you can get. so i want them to get them to maintain dental hygiene and do a right, you know, and especially for you and. ready have been you, friday is very bottom of it. i mean, the only give them a crisis. there would be maybe a pony applied to the agent and with it stagnant i think but, but the one image that i was recalling as i was hearing on b, i and last name speakers. if you go to the camps 10 tech class, it's quite hear me, but as you approach the camps,
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you see the hills of rock. it's that close up and it truly must be. this is not something i have ever experienced, but it truly must be tortures to be that close to home and yet be so incredibly far away. right? so life in the camps. but from what we share from the refugees and communities we work with organizations and individuals. work with to there's hope is scarce, right, opportunities scarcer, ah, look, durango want the same things you and me, aunt and every one else spots, right. they want a future for themselves and a future for their children. they just want a fair shot. and that i think is, is, has been denied to their anger for, for a very, very long time. yes. mean we just have a couple of minutes left, a as somebody who, who is always trying to ensure that the rowing go get the attention that they deserve and, and that they get the justice that, that, that they deserve. um, how,
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how do you keep going? how do you keep that hope alive when you see that the international community continues to look away when you see that it seems to get harder and harder for the plight of the working go to to stay in the headlines to be written about to be reported on what do you do in order to, to keep that fire going and to try to ensure that those stories are still told. i know that my people have been strong capable, resilient, and ah, they are willing to actually put up a fight to actually continue to live, survive and contribute to this world. there are so many we get, i asked for like doctor and the, and many of my colleagues who have the opportunity. i'm on the outside working hard to actually ensure that our people's voices are heard and amplify them. these are
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the group of people who should actually become examples of what is possible for ringer refugees. and for those who are actually stuck in precursor conditions around the world before they resettle that, you know, these are the people were actually able to do things there. now contributing members of the society around the world, they're doing so much work for their own community and, and, and the communities around them. this is the group of people we need to actually look at as inspiration on how to free writing on how to actually open up doors for us. now, i hold dear my community in our capacity in our work to actually continue to survive. but also we have which histories were actually not destitute. people, we don't look like this. we don't always constantly ask for the world to help us. we're only asking for initial funds, initial tools casually get us going. we are capable, more than capable of doing this work ourselves. you should have to listen to us on
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what we actually need in order for you to do in order for us to actually be lifted enough to continue to support ourselves on in the long term. well, i certainly wish we could keep the conversation going, but we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave it there. thanks so much. all of our guests in rural islam, jasmine, alum and ambia, proven. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at e. j in sad story from him, hammered from german. the whole thing here in doha bye for now. ah ah.
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