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and the so called status quo jerusalem's old city, the preserved longstanding agreement bands, jews from frayne at the alex, the mosque compound. but internationalist groups want that to change and they're getting more political support. why is the issue so contentious? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. tens of thousands of entre nationalists is radio said march 2 occupied east jerusalem in wants being seen as the latest provocation against palestinians. every year, far right? jewish groups mark the illegal occupation of eastern them. beholding what they call a flag day march. some to part in an incursion in the alex a mosque,
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compounds and raised the israeli flag in some jewish worship is also prayed, violating a long standing agreement, preventing non wilson's from holding religious rituals there. the palestinian prime minister denounced what he called aggression. such incursions have become increasingly common. and when connor points from occupied east jerusalem likes waiving what israel says is a celebration and palestinians call a provocation. ah, these ready flag? bolt was known by his really this jerusalem date is a holiday. when he's ready, forces kept at ease through slim in 1967 during the 60 war israel, it's victory for the palestinians. it's occupation. in recent years though, autrand nationally says really groups have used the flag march to push their own agenda ah, by minority opening races fall right group like the harbor,
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use the march to call for the expulsion of all palestinians from what was once historic of palestine. and for the dismantling of the 3rd holy site in islam the dome, the rock in the alexa moss compound, ah, lisha, public security minister, whom up our lives has allowed the march to travel through damascus gate. the halt of occupants strew slept commerce which rules the gaza strip is monitoring the situation. the queers hamas, liam of his, appeared to use any means in order to stop and to look through the thought of the ex they're mist from doing this to big mistakes again, us all people and our policy, not in the lux home or for jerusalem, or we think it is or is doing no. victor dystrophy, in the through june last year, the march combined with the 1st expulsions of palestinians in the shape your neighbourhood sparked at the 11th day will on garza when her mass threatened israel with rockets, mitchell brock and independent israeli political consultant says along the margin
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into palestinian areas is once again dangerous or israeli to fly the flag anywhere in israel in jerusalem, east jerusalem. it makes a statement is really sovereignty is demonstrated there by the israeli army, the israeli police. that is there and as deciding who can march, where can a march what flag can be flown by which people. and that's going to be a boiling point. now. in areas outside of the old city palestinians clashed with israeli police. ah, classes also took place across the occupied west bank, where these rady army use lie via and t guests against alarm palestinians. first of the whole truth of alex with the kaiser. 33 police. oh, how they get help with the vote, but don't put another route. this was never supposed to have already assumed his
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way with this by a huge operations here. your address with the marches openly challenging, hate slogans, and proclaiming that this is a jury certainly land this young generation threatened force. i believe that completely on these people are the ones that are packing, these really government and keeping and power. and as long as that's the case, i have very loud voice at the heart of these world government, american out 0, occupied east jerusalem. the alex, the compound is one of the most volatile flashpoints in occupied east jerusalem for muslims. it contains 2 of islam holding sites, the alex, the mosque, and the dumb of the rock. jews call a temple mount. revering it is their 1st temple, a prey at the western wall in 1967 jordan and israel agreed that the walk if 4 is non trust controls the compound. while israel controls external security, only muslims are allowed to pray in the mosque while jews can pray outside the
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compound at the western wall. the while keith allows non wilson's to visit the compound 5 days a week under it supervision. terrorists are allowed in, but palestinians are concerned the sides. muslim identity is under threat by entre right wing religious groups increasingly entering and attempting to pray their illegally. the lead to bring in our guests in ramallah, in the occupied west, back with stuff about who t is a palestinian physician activist and politician. he's extra general of the palestinian national initiative and a former information minister in the palestinian government in tell of even israel keith elder is an author and contributing writer tolerates newspaper and in cambridge in the united states. when the hoary is a syndicated columnist and profess of journalism, the american university of they have very welcome to you all gentlemen, thank you for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to start with you mr. bob,
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ruthie. if i may, is the status quo being eroded at alex or, and, and what does that mean for palestinians? viciously. i mean, 1st of all, according to the existing agreement, that is very odd to me has not the most control and who entered on who it actually is. it's to can you have taken with that responsibility from the box and they are bringing in the groups inside the mosque, attacking unions as they did frequency and i'm done. but the more than that, the allowed what is not, which is the 2nd is that a jewish people who did the mosque, which is a serious violation. they also all plan which is also not allowed and they did that was even as minutes under the supervision and the vision of those
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who allowed them to do so. and that's besides of course that that's the means peaceful lordship. this has become a common practice one point to in ramadan we had more than 200 people in job cbb. one of them actually died because of the effects of those very arm you on the shippers. so this is a really serious erosion of existing agreements, and it is a school, but most important it is an attack on the right people and include almost religion . mr. kevin elder, i'd like to cross over to you as far as the eye ear repeat is concerned. he says the status quo remains. israel is committed to the status quo, but this is obviously a divided kinessa. how much support is there for keeping the status quo for changing it is, is it a matter of they just not being adequate security to ensure that the,
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the agreement is upheld in the compound or is there a willful movement to, to change the status quo? there where i think there is a one place in jewels or maybe in the middle east, which is a ho fragile, an unstable then commercial evil, the temple mount. and this is the church of primary, mr. bennett. and i think that everything, or is it part of the instability of the government? i think that this is a why there is no question of israel is violating status for thousands of jews were allowed to go there. to pray at the factory of the matter is that there is no price tag to this, not in the middle east currency to promote the currency or we don't see any golf country calling their ambassador back or the jordanian flag was
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taken down on the yeah. voices from washington, also quite mild. so for better when the balance is between the stability of the government and the coalition, the voices that are coming from his own party that are protesting the status quo, challenging the status quo. so froze, he has to pay lip service there and especially lockheed that they respect the status quo because we have interest in the gov. we have interest in jordan, but we don't have interest in ramallah and we don't have interest in these jews on them. but the status quo, and here the status quo in on the template. wow. is kind of an oxymoron with the status quo in the peace negotiations that are going lower,
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mr. and cory, i'd like to cross over to you. now if we accept that there is a, you know, as with heard is an erosion of the status quo there. what has led to this is this a rise in popularity or patterson is ability of the ultra nationalist of the, of the far right. once they sort of wide a context here, the wider context, i think, is a convergence of several trends that we've seen over probably the last 20 years or so. and it's growing faster now with this. right? meaning israeli government, 1st of all the increasing right wing settler, ethnic purity, sentiment, and israel, the jews, the israelis designed this claim to all the land from the river to the sea. the 2nd trend is the total weakness of the palestinian leadership. lack of any serious leadership in jerusalem for the jail. expelled or imitated any
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serious indigenous leadership. the 3rd is the lack of any external accountability is as the american arabs and none of them are really are israel accountable for the events and it's not just the status quo. the status quo is very limited. focus as a focus on the sample mouth, but that's the most sensitive part of the most sensitive district in the city in the center of palestine. the hard top scientists are. ready start sitting and going back a 100. ready years and they really have been suddenly trying to print their control over all of jerusalem by expelling people. jailing people not renewing residents. permits intimidating people, taking overland areas, building your settlement. so this is, has to be seen as part of
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a much bigger and much older process that goes back about a 100 years, but has been accelerated because of the 3 reasons that i mentioned. and that's why strong, because it's the only resistance available to the people there. i don't pick up on, on one of your points, the weakness of palestinian leadership and put that to you. mr. mustafah by guilty is palestinian resistance to these changes? is it weakening? on the contrary, it is getting stronger. the funniest thing and it is week of the palestinian people are weak. and i think what we've seen in jerusalem is i had always act up resistance popular non violent, but at this time standing up to the apollo disraeli, army, and relocations. you got and i think what we saw are palestinians who are determined to demand their freedom. and protect the rights, but what we've seen also is very few years pro creation from the side. what we've
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seen is very few violation up on the international law because the whole march is about celebrating an illegal act of unexplained and by territory, according to international law. this is unlawful and also what we have seen is serious, serious violation of human rights. but as the people you can see how the army is behaving. and what we also saw is deflection of how deep and profound the system of apartheid in palestine is. when you allow it to carry thousands of snacks and but event, but a student from carrying even i think in fact that does that affection of discrimination and reflection segregation at reflection of the fact that is much worse than what prevents in south africa. but more than that, let me say what we've seen in this much, that it says behavior on illegal settler, again,
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i'm in civilian. what was nothing but fashion behavior? i call it fashion behavior because it was extreme, it was dangerous that people's lives at risk. and the palestinians have nothing to defend themselves while these on attacking them. but also at any point it's been trying to defend themselves. okay, but i want to talk to you a little bit about the, the flag day march. also during the march, we heard calls from some of these far right groups for the expulsion of all palestinians. and for the 1st time, publicly calling for the dismantling of the dome of the rock, i mean are, and thieves view sees wants very fringe views. now coming more into the mainstream actually i q is so the 1st time in the eighty's, a jewish underground members of the jewish underground were arrested before they
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ex assigned the plan to bomb the waltz. i'm afraid it's not a matter of a will. it's a matter of ability to do this. there are people who are being interviewed about in and they talk about it openly, that it's time to get rid of the mosque and the policy, the how i'm a story and to build a service. really what you could see yesterday children was t shirts on the back of that. it was, it's time to build the 3rd mosque. now the other thing is that we give this government which is completely aware of it, or did the benefits of being deal done a due to benjamin antonio. if not anyhow, was prime minister the israel left and the international community would be
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all over him. but since we are so happy that we have lobbied as foreign minister and not the time of bank via because what we hear from the government is what do you want? you want us to bring down this government headed by bennett and la p. and to get bank v as being the minister of police. so these were the public is intimidated both from the hamas was wanting to shoot rockets on, on israel, on tel aviv on jews. and what happened 2 years ago. and i intimidated by nathan, you know, who is provoking this government by sending those and incenting the people against this government. so and on the other hand, i see the weakness of the palestinian authority because they are also kind of sub contractors of this government. and i remember i interviewed professor saying are
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saber few years ago, and he said it's time to one from actually, but he said that he's considering now, you know, it's 55 years of your base of joseph. and what we seen from the central, we're off statistics in israel. the palestinians are now about 40 percent of the inhabitants of joseph. and they have the right to right. and they can form a coalition, which is where the jewish left. a maybe even with the older books and they can build mosques whenever, where they want and stuff building sentiment is jules, of it, but they don't do this for some reason. you know, i can just say i want to policy there because i can say i must have a bi booty. i would like to add some think i had missed about good. well, that's what i want to say. that is not the difference between how the standard or the government, the government standard bennett himself was
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a leader of settlers. he was the director of the regional council of the settlements. and he himself is next to you. right, when guy like nathan, you know, he was even the chief of staff with nathan. you know, and i think that i think it's shameful that somebody made it will claim to be on the left is supporting the government. and the same applies. the ones that are best, by the way, who i think these people have to bring down the government after this session here . but more important, i don't agree with mr. off municipality addiction, mom. if you don't plan to stay solution, let's have one democratic state with equal rights for everybody. not municipality elections in general, him on the occupation and the system of the patient. and i know that that some mission in the land of palestine exclusive to jewish people. no,
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you don't want to state solution fine. let's have one solution, one democratic states and not one type. in which case we can plan for doing finally man. and that can be, will not be jewish on this is that if you want to speak about democracy and not only be exclusive to elections in general, and this would be a big mistake. because that would mean that we are accepting the not only occupation, but also those of the system of chronic corey. i've got to come back to you and just pick up on something you spoke about earlier, about what repercussions there are for israel failing to uphold the agreed status quo around the alex. most compound is sort of why the arab resistance weakening, those that wants purported to be strong defenders of the palestinian cause. pat, it's not so committed anymore. this clearly change among some are
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leaderships and countries that are afraid of their governments and rulers just continue the ability to stay on power and therefore cling to external support mainly from the united states. and now, increasingly from israel, these are countries that are essentially being de sovereign eyes. they're losing their sovereignty and they can't make decisions about the defense equipment they want to buy and where they get their water, where they get their food without getting the approval of either the israeli or the american government funds to do so. and therefore, they're clearly as a decline in them supporting the call by a few of the overwhelming majority of our people which is repeatedly affirmed and public supports. the people in support state fair to say resolution or
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a single jewish is where they are in power and through and stay there. but they can't say there is occupier, the state and the palestinians must have their say, the refugee must be the result. so this is a bigger issue, the really the significant thing that's happening broadly. we resume our from, from the, on the, on the how to shut. the biggest thing that's happening now and isn't going out since last may, june, is the refraining of the israel palestine conflict in terms of both sides of ethnic closing and the century long conflict between sutler calling realists coming from abroad. and then they just indians who are 94 percent of the majority under years ago in this area. the irony and the thing that's important for israelis is our palestinians between the jordan river and the mediterranean in mandated
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palestine. now make up more just over 50 percent of the there are more than there are jewish israelis in this land. this trends is going to continue. and this is what's driving some of the some of the extremism. and what last point creation least significant, there's the trend we see here in the united states, where just the other day, 60 congress, the man and woman. the statement to the statement wrote a letter to the government and the us to take the position of the cleansing that the israelis is doing a massage. the village is south of hebron when you get 60 people in america congress publicly challenging colonial policies of israel is. this is significant. that's not a majority, but it's starting to happen under mirror all over the united states where there's
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a more there's a greater demand for people right for the skills. we're nearing the end of the program. so i'd like to just pass back over to the stuff about duty. do you agree with that analysis about there being a re framing of everything and, and sort of how that's being communicated? i guess i do. absolutely. i because i think that is the result of the fact that when the student accepted a very painful mind, having been long accepting practically less than half of what you and decided we should have to get to that and meet every possible obstacle to the possibility of faith and that is rejection, regardless of who was a prime minister and you say what it's happened. i've been on the home
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the compromise. and because of that, i think it's the expansion, i think. but the thing is, i'm coming out to going back to the national that this is one place. and we are invited to full equality. and we are entitled to remove the effects of the settler colonial system. and day solve it. nuclear didn't have to be addressed, which was practice $94840.00. what is now 6 and a half 1000000 listing under phoebe's? so i think guess i read because i think that is right. does not want and does not want a historical on my car. i will have to leave it there for time. thanks very much for joining us. we'll stop by good the keep it all the and run equally and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website . i'll just there a dot com and to the other discussion, go to our facebook page. facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. you can also joined the conversation on twitter handle is jane
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