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hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much am john? 8 years of war in yemen have kill tens of thousands of people and left most of the population on the verge of starvation. but there are increasing hopes of ending the conflict. the saudi led military coalition and the iranian backed her with the rebels, announced a 2 month truce in april. they've now agreed to extend it for another 2 months. the warring sides have held talks and jordan allowed fuel vessels into the healthy controlled port of her data. and commercial flights have resumed from santa airport . the you in an u. s. have praised the progress made so far, but say there's still a lot of work to do victoria gate and be reports the sci fi between who the rebels and yelman's internationally recognized government was 1st agreed in april.

it'll now last for another 2 months. yemenis have greeted the knees with relief and hope, like i thought, only that yemenis are mostly optimistic about the results. we hope the truth will be extended and other issues that haven't been resolved over the past period will be addressed as well, including the opening of roads and crossings. floor in yemen, it in 2014, when it ran back to the rebels to control of the capitol center. forcing the internationally recognized government to flee. the saudi coalition joined the war the following year to try to restore the government to power more than a 150000 people have been killed during 8 years of fighting u. s. president joe biden, and the un have welcome the move to extend the truce. this is a pivotal moment for human human has the opportunity to continue this progress and choose peace instead of war suffering and destruction. the longer we can create a, a and keep an upholding kind of truce bubble. but more,

we hope that donors are, will continue to fund our operations. the conflicts created one of the world's worst humanitarian crises. the un says more than 4000000 people have been displaced . 90000000 others are going hungry. analysts say the truce is a pathway to peace. the institution of a new presidential council in yemen. i think that's been key because there's new counsel. an 8 man council has really been focused on trying to change the trajectory of yemen, and it was significant, but some of the old war mongers were removed from leadership positions in order for this council to come in. so there's everything to play for now. there is still the problem with ties, a large city in yemen, southwest that still under siege, but of the 8 long years of fighting and misery. there is at least hope among yemenis that this devastating war might finally be coming to an end victoria gate and be al jazeera. ah.

all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests. joining us from santa josma lavoie spokesman for the norwegian refugee council in yemen. from washington d. c and l. she line a research fellow in the middle east program at the quincy institute, and from berlin ibrahim jalal, a non resident scholar in the gulf and yemen program at the middle east institute. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. just my, let me start with you today. the u. n says that the war in yemen has caused the world's worst humanitarian crisis. from your perspective, you're on the ground there in santa how much is this dire humanitarian situation driving the ceasefire? well, what i can say is, it's a pretty darn picture. i think there's around 17000000 people right now in yemen that are struggling to find food at daily. it could go as much as $19000000.00 by

the end of this year. and what it means completely is that when i go here and send out to the market, they are food and yourselves, but the problem is many people can not afford it. and so i don't want to which extend this is driving the peace process, but definitely out we think that this extension of the truth is, is an excellent use for yemen. i think it shows commitment a serious commitment from all the parties of the conflict to and this senseless war, but also reduce the suffering of millions of yemen. abraham from your vantage point, how significant is it that the ceasefire was extended? and how difficult was it to achieve this outcome? thanks for how may i think the extension of this is fall of the of the truth not to cease fire was a significant step and expected but vinegar oceans of the extension, was largely and easy to quiet external pressure by the united states,

the u. k. and other members of security council, but also faster limitation of both the sultan, oman, and, and saudi arabia. of course, the appeal to see had made clear signals that interested in a new will and would see it all to the who is indicating condition of extension. but, but as much as the extension of the truth of the important, what math is now, what the question is, is, what is beyond the truth? and if it's not backed by a broader political purposes than an i fair and turn to, to basically decide to the violence that we saw in the past couple years with the center of gravity being. and now, given the scope of negotiations focused on the opening of our entire as my be old so many front line though to negotiate it to be opened in full and to talk about to is, is not new. it's part of this talk on agreement of 2018. so the truth whole 2 goes

back to to the previous accomplished parts of the stock on agreement with respect to the enter your flights to travelers from airport as well as the interior fuel. there will come steps and i think the steps should be expanded, but the money that come for the oil there, but it should be used to the payment studies. i think this has been a cornerstone and just negotiation disagreement. and that's also part of stock on the agreement. difficulties are supposed to pay and use the money to pay $77.00, the salaries. and that's not only you have any terry and you know outcome but also legit to try to the people and it should be negotiated early. i'm sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i just want to get back to something you mentioned you. you mentioned that the p l. c. we should remind our viewers. p l. c stands for the presidential leadership council. the credit presidential leadership council was introducing early april.

there was a shake up in government. you had president, had the stepping aside essentially giving the reins to this 8 member council from your perspective. has this presidential council been effective? has this council been able so far to unite yelman's, anti who with the coalition? i think it's added to assess whether it's been successful or not. usually we had the 1st month, it was all my but so the count begins on the after. but of course, we need to also acknowledge the complexities and the competing objectives within the better counsel because they are collect not only the de facto entities on the ground, but what these entities, the multiple objectives, at least in the long term. so we need to monitor closing the next unfolding steps when it comes to different appointments across security, military and the executive entities to see whether they actually have 1st of all, a degree of consensus on the appointments and 2nd,

a public commitment to the delivery of public services, and based on that, i think we can all to assist the possibility of unifying military assets on the ground. so as to have only one opponent should. we have an escalation of the truth eventually collapses, which is the big fear of many and you haven't actually. and now i saw you nodding along to somebody, but he was saying there, i looked like you want to jump in. i'm going to let you do that, but i also want to ask you whether this is called the truth or whether this is called a cease fire. the fact that it has been extended from your perspective, does this show a serious commitment on the part of all the actors involved in this conflict to try to end it? i think the extension of the, of the truce largely does reflect external pressure as my colleague, the brain mentions and in particular, i think one crucial factor here is the recent introduction by u. s. congress of a war powers resolution. that would end all us support for saudi military action in

yemen. and so this, if this were to pass, that would mean that 2 thirds of saudi arabia's air force would be grounded because they cannot operate without us military contractors are parts and assistance. and essentially that mohammed been said, man is not interested in being in a position where he cannot operate his own air force. and so i think it's crucial here that although we saw the appointment of this newly consolidated presidential leadership council, which does represent hypothetically, a very powerful fighting force to combat the, who's these. and again, sort of the 1st time that we've seen all of these different actors and factions who do have quite divergent goals in terms of their ultimate agenda. but they all agree on their opposition to the who these and so the fact that we didn't see a reduction of fighting, i think very clearly shows that the saudis are sending the message to the see that they need to stay at the negotiating table. and the saudis are conveying that

message because they don't want to be in a position of, of losing the ability to fly their own planes. if u. s. does withdraw support. and, and now if i could just follow up with you, do we know at this stage what exactly has been agreed to in this extension? do we know the details, the fine print here as far as what the warring sides were able to agree upon? i haven't seen an updated statement from the u. n. the, the terms of the 1st 2 months were not entirely met to thus far there. there were originally 18 fuel ships, agreed to, to my understanding at the time that the truth ended only 12 had gotten through. there were supposed to be 2 flights a week from and, and, and cairo to santa. and we only just saw this 1st flight from santa to cairo. so my understanding is part of this is, is to sort of try to maintain those fuel ships getting in and the,

the flights coming in. and then very crucially as, as has been mentioned, opening the roads around ties was also a crucial part of this. and in that respect, there, there was a meeting there been discussions of this, but thus far we haven't seen the siege of ties being lifted yet. just money. what are the on the ground logistics like in yemen right now when it comes to specifically delivery of much needed aid to different parts of the country? has that situation improved? well, 1st of all, i need to welcome the progress that were made in terms of just overall axis in yemen. we've been talking about the reopening of santa airport, but also the partial will be opening as well as part of the data. because for instance, here, and i've been deep before the truth, i've been seeing people doing some banks per day because of the fuel crisis at the petrol station. now for us, as you many darren actors, axes,

game during this truce, these 2 months have been more limited, especially because a lot of our access issues are related to the rock receive. so not necessarily the existence of the content itself. however, we're hoping that with the, the extension of the truth, we're hoping that it will give us the opportunity to basically deliver a more quickly and also more efficiently. and we're also, we're hoping to better commercial access. so that means that the, the, the freedom of movement for people, but also for goods to then we can expect maybe that the price of for them, other things like medicine can, can go down as well, for civilians that are in desperate need. now another thing is obviously more space for the mining activities, such as surveying, for instance. so even if the roads open across frozen front lines,

mine contamination is one of the issues in some growth in yemen. so 1st of all, we need to map where these minds are, but also as a human human community, we need to make sure that we actually are able to import the mining equipment in country. so that's the only way we can make sure that then afterwards people can move safely near near frontline, basically abraham, were the provisions of the original truce ever completely implemented? no unfortunately, and 2 parts to this, the fast as my quit again, i mentioned the entry of fuel into her data and the sumption of flights this way. some of the commitments made by the government of yep. so, and also the technicalities that come along and this way, i'm easy negotiations because other states like jordan or even egypt,

public security concerns of another nice all authority. and the 2nd part from the other hand, you have the 2 other issues, the opening approach, which is supposedly healthy commitment to the tooth. and the 2nd is the payment of studies from the oil that's being faster located. so if the data port, so it has not been met in full progress, has been humble. and in fact the negotiations overtime is what about to crumble, which is why we had a haste. you opening understanding otherwise there would have been no other way to actually agree ahead of the supposed extension of the truth. and in that case, we have seen a failure to extend that, which is why we had just a limited understanding to continue talks on on ties. and although it's just after the extension and i think now i'm not concerned about the implementation of beef as much, but do we must,

these tactical developments must be linked to the builder strategic picture of the escalation. and i know you time to comprehensive peace talks between many actors and abraham, do you think that we will see a continuation of talks? will? will there be a return to the negotiating table now that this extension to the ceasefire or truce has been agreed to it is my hope that we attend. we so districts taken place, it was put in place actually 2 years ago by saudis. and then last year, but because they had perceived a military advantage in the city, which has not been the case that was the days and why we saw you 10. but now do we shift from here, from truce to a cease fire and from the fire to comprehensive p stokes among japanese, i think it's contingent on 3 factors. best of all, be progress delivered on the tooth. second degree of international and urgent

pressure on the hope is not as much as the government government has received to show pressure. and sadly, the perception on, on whether the who, if he's in particular, can, can continue to make tutorial progress as we saw in the past couple years. and use this true. c. s, as a tactical means to a group organized, employ forces, which is highly probable actually, even if we continue talks and age that point and l will be actors in the conflict. be able to negotiate a deal that will take beyond another 2 months. well, we see in general, conflicts tend to end when, when both sides are all sides, see, perceive a stalemate, essentially that they don't continue to be a possible benefit to be gained by continuing to fight. and so in this case, i do think that because we see this more consolidated potential for military power

coming from the p l. c. this may be contributing to why the who things are would prefer at this point to negotiate from their current position of relative strength . they remain in control of, of territory where the majority of many lives. and so i think the question therefore is, you know, will we see this, saudis, and m rockies pushing the p l. c. 2 to return to fighting in order to test their, their potential strength here to try to push the who sees back. and so this is why i do think it's crucial that the external pressure on the saudis, on the m r i t is saying no, the international community really wants you to continue to stay at the negotiating table. i do think that on the who, the side, they have incentives to negotiate now rather than return to the battlefield. so my, my hope is that yes, both sides potentially c stalemate. and that at this point,

they think that their, their gains may be best advanced or their, their objectives, the best advanced the low shooting table instead of the battlefield. jasmine agencies say that 4000000 people have been displaced in yemen due to this conflict . that 19000000 others are going hungry, that a 160000 are likely to suffer from famine like conditions. i mean, this couldn't be more dire, and we should point out that that the suffering was immense in yemen even before this current conflict. i remember doing sporting on the ground and 2011 in yemen about the high rates of malnutrition among children. so, so it was already a country where a large portion of the population was suffering and has been suffering for a long time. is there hope among the population right now that the war might actually be coming to an end? are you hearing that from people you speak with their yes,

definitely. from my colleagues and also my my gemini friends here. they're awesome . oh, because bear in mind this is the 1st nationwide ceasefire since 2016 and so, and that said, even if there is an extension of the truth, even if that lead to a lasting piece, that doesn't mean the end of the suffering for jamini is unfortunately, i mean, traveling to this country's to this country for almost a year. now i've witnessed the scale of the destruction in yemen, and i'm talking of you see about bridges about markets, about other infrastructure. but also as mentioned by, i think, our colleague abraham underscore earlier, and there's also a massive arm, a structural problems. like for instance, the payment of, of civil servant. there's also a millions of children that are still out of school and then an economy to rebuild, to rebuild. so it will still be the largest team at one of the largest, at least,

demanded nearing crisis. even if we end up with a lasting peace in yemen. so these are things to remember as well. if i'm, if i could get back to something you mentioned earlier and something that just my was just talking about. i mean, let's talk about something as fundamental as the economy, which has been in wreckage in yemen for such a long time. now, let's say that things go well for the foreseeable future. how difficult would it be, or whether this truce leads to a lasting ceasefire? and negotiations continue it even at the conflict to come to an end. how difficult will it be to rebuild the economy in yemen? i think to build the economy would need to a gold yelman's last and collapsed institutions. and these have to be technocratic. they have to again, their capacity, they have to attract talent because we also see now lots of talent and the brain doing with affects. with course the state building process and the economy. now you

have to, to revitalize or you 5 the sources for revenues which many of which have been dysfunctional like for example, they'll have to sit at the in trouble. and that has been off for over 5 years now. and that's going to be challenging. and then the next challenge, of course, when will be also to, to a concise, the monetary sort of flows that we see and the disparity and the price if you have any notes and across the country and, and, and sadly, you would have to sort of these goals all the new for formed institutions cuz otherwise we will have some states within the state and somebody call me within the economy. and that's all to be. i think a challenge for the post war to cover the face and yet and what are

some of the immediate concrete steps that can be taken in order to continue to build trust between the warring sides to try to come up with some kind of an actual negotiated, settlement in and see this conflict come to an end. one of my colleagues have said implementing the terms of the truth. i think our crucial trust building measures. another important thing to think about was the economy. you know, the international crisis group had a pre comprehensive report that came out recently that emphasized the war economy. how many and yemen have profited from this violence? and there are structures in place now that sort of perpetuate the conflict because they are profitable for, again, a very limited number of individuals. but these, these are the people with power. and so the longer that the truth goes on, the, my hope is that other forms of, of economic activity that, that yemen will be able to shift away from sort of the status quo of

a war economy. and try to regain the sort of more productive economic processes. certainly the, the basic questions like the payment of salaries are absolutely essential. but again, i do think just, it's a matter. it is a question of trying to give you the time to start to, to get out of some of these, this dependence on the war economy and try to return to to a piece time economy. however, that will be an extremely long process and will require significant external resources, which i think external powers, saudi arabia, the way e, the united states, france, the u. k. these countries that have all profited from the sale of weapons to the fighters as well as iran backing the who sees. but many, many countries are implicated in the tragedy in yemen. and so i do think it's a duty of the international community to, to provide resources to help them and rebuild. all right, well we have run out of times,

we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guests. just my love was and she line and abraham july and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also turn the conversation on twitter. our handle is at ha, inside story for me, right? how much am jerome in the whole team here? bye for now? ah ah. and

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