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the face of most of confidence by members of his party. later on monday. he's faced cause to resign over a series of scandals that include parties held at the height of corona virus locked on the threshold. all 15 percent of the parliamentary party seeking a vote of confidence in the prime minister has been passed. therefore, vote of confidence will take place within the rules of the 19th which 2 committee that vote will take place this evening in the house of commons between 6 and 8 o'clock. and we will announce the result. shortly thereafter, there will be arrangements for proxy votes for any colleagues who can't be present in person in westminster, and we'll notify colleagues of those arrangements in the near future. investigators in bangladesh, a working to determine the cause of a massive fire to contain depot that killed at least 49 people. before sponsoring explosion would have ignited chemicals stored in some of the containers. others

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hash out of that was a shooting abuto to the ah dozens are killed in the container depot explosion in bangladesh. it's the latest incident to target debate of the countries for industrial safety standards. so as in not being done to protect workers. this is the inside story. ah

hello and welcome to the program. i am hashem, aha butter. unfortunately, industrial accidents are to come on in bangladesh. in the latest incident, dozens of people were killed in a fire explosion at a container port near the city of chatter. graham hundreds were seriously wounded, doctor se most people died in the explosion or from inhaling toxic fumes. fire fighters believe a container of chemicals may have caused the blaze. special branch of the military has been called in to help with the salvage operation. that we should re, husband from the capital decor. rescue on sullivan's apparition is still continuing by the fire prizes have been held by spatial unit of the army. and he is still not clearly out of danger. many of the containers still as films and small wires.

they're wanted that many of the come to school to have play mobile shami goes. so this is a danger zone. hospitals are over and why many of the injured have been brought to the capital city of dhaka. now the government is announcing compensation packets for the injured victims and those who died for their families, the prime minister and the presidents and their condolence to the families, bangladesh. as we know, the history of industrial accidents in 2013 run plaza, industrial accidents much have been improved in this country, especially in the textile and garments sector, but much needs to be improved in other sector. it's a growing economy with many industrious coming out the fire fighting a cube. things are not up to the time. it has to deal with high rise building chemical industries and many other sophisticated investors that growing around different parts of the country. now we know there's a limited resource. there is a lack of firefighting equipment in many places. there is

a lack of enforcement expert, one that in the off time, but those 5 fighting unit needs to be trained better and better to cure the most important part. they must be able to enforce this laws in the factories and other places. those are clearly in danger of accidents and fire sandwiches for insights. so let's take a quick look at major industrial accidents in bangladesh during the last decade. in 2012, 117 workers died were locked, exit doors trapped them in a garment that factory on fire in the capital darker. 5 months later, the countries suffered its worst industrial disaster. when the runner, plaza clothing factory collapse, more than a i was and a 100 people were killed in 2019 a blaze swept through an area crowned with apartments, shops and warehouses in the oldest part of dagger,

killing at least 70 people and $52.00 people died last june when a fire destroyed a foot and drink factory. many were trapped inside by a door that was illegally locked bangladesh recently held is 1st industrial safety forum were the international labor organization, their disgust developing a national industrial safety framework with a focus on building safety and better protection for workers. government minister say committees have been set up to review labor laws, civil society groups, 8 smaller factories that make up the bulk of the industrial sector, often failed to carry out routines. safety checks. ah, let's bring in our guests in darker and darker. alarm more as them research director of the center for policy dialogue thing tank together with the

international labor organization, the organize the 1st industrial safety forum. last month in brussels. ben van pepper strata senior legal advisor, the european center for constitutional and humor, whites, and a london 7th cotton general secretary of the international transport workers federation. it has 15 affiliated uni, as in bangladesh. welcome to the program on decker. i'm in from past incidence. could this be another act of negligence and poor safety procedures? i think you are right that this is one of the reflection of lack of governance. in case of that is just safety point. your view. one with dish has over the last one begin has made improvement in this for safety and the ready man government sector, which is a major ex or products, but similar kind sofa as investor safety haven't yet actually insured for non regimen garment or products and chemical industries. and because of that dispense

of incident happened in bangladesh, so we need to actually get now kink offer improvement. all the industrial safety not only. busy the one sector, but across the board for all important safety concern related sectors and industries. ben, i'm in on paper. the government will tell you've made some progress. when you look at this particular incident, 4000 containers stored in our depot. and then some of those containers have chemical substances that helped spread the fire. the, the, the fire fighters were struggling to contain the fire. you don't, you don't get a sense whatsoever. they have really learned a great deal from past incidence, which really concur with that on paper bangladesh. all the stellar fire and building safety regulations in the country on paper are up to the march. they align

with international standards on fire and building safety. but the problem is that the regulations remain paper tiger because the problem is really in the enforcement, it's about the inspectorate, how many people are in the expect inspector? it's so the inspector, it's also has the mandates to compel specific actions, for example, closing something or temporary shifting some, some high risk areas down, those that have actually enough independence. she's a v decides to inspect. the real problem in bangladesh has been i'm still unfortunately, remains enforcement. stephan many now are blaming small factories in the car for the incident. the have been taking place for the last few years. you have 15. a uni is which are created with you. what is the biggest concern? what is the biggest problem as far as the progress in bangladesh is concerned?

thanks sir sam take just echoing the other commentators said the big challenge is making sure that what's written up both in the legislation and the guidelines about occupational health and safety are enforceable and delivered. so for us that the big concern here seems to be that containers with unidentified contents, so the firefighters don't know how to stop. the nurse will see a question in the leading a part of the article about is the standard good enough for, for really camera, for chemicals are highly flammable. ready and very dangerous, so the question is, for us is enforcement transparency and how to respond. so for all of our unions, which are mostly in the trend and it's all about ensuring that international standards go into bangladesh. intellectuals condo, i'm in the blast, shook an entire neighbourhood and is raising questions about the same issue that

people were concerned about for many years, which is the presence of chemical plans located in proximity with, with, with towns and nothing has been done about this. yes, you're right, the better over the years this types of incidence has happened in earlier also the same kind of incidence. we observed a in the vicinity of the i'm a locality where lots of people actually stay boot and but no, no major changes happen in tom. so for relocation all these kind. so for a for player of, of factories or a safer places as well as the dera, not all of a proper culture developed to improve the safety related compliance as in the factories. what is unfortunate burg here is that often an incidence,

this happened and after that on got that and all that i can see is that look for read actually. and i have a responsible for that and try to find out and, and try to blame each other. but the problem yet is that no such safety culture has yet to develop a in case of the industrial safety point of view here in bangladesh. so it is, it is important to create dec kinds of industrial safety culture at the factory level. so where it is not actually look into the incidences often after a factory has established an ace operation started. but before that when a and in, when a new factory is actually built in long dead debt on the safety related issues need to be checked in properly at registration. a license is to be actually monitored properly. so that any kind of incidence as own be actually a be reduced and dec i saw things haven't yet actually done. so need to have a safety called yet from the very 1st nurse for since the establishment of the

factory and then its operation. and finally, day in the, in the course of time. so the best bet kinds of continent practice need to be improved. we will, we will go now into some details about the very industry itself, the regulations, the law, the d, as the hobbyist in the past. and why we still have those problems bent. the garment industry is the backbone of the bank leather. she economy accounts for something like 80 percent of the export revenues employs more than 4000000 people. you got it that you might think says this is the pride of the nation. the government would be looking after it. this is not the case whatsoever. so that's, that's totally the. so the rights garments are important for the exports. i wouldn't say the backbone of the and of the economy because there's also some domestic factors that are really important. but it is really the flagship industrial sector . and it is also the flagship industrial sector,

in the sense that it's where as we saw earlier and to show where a lot of these industrial accident stuff happens. and we're also, we're plenty of opportunities to learn from and, and improve the labor inspector. it's as well as the fire and building safety inspectors. so it is an important industry of the country. it's an important industry with lots of international attention, but it's also an industry that is, that is problem with all kinds of problems where we do see that i am building safety issues are problem, but also labor rides are toward to significantly. there is a problem with limited freedom of association, so workers comp trying to form, you know, their own choosing the wages are low. now we just have of, it's where we saw all kinds of workers working in even for occupational health and safety situations, sometimes being dismissed without a safety net present. so there's all effector, unfortunately,

that is run, but for problems, but also a sector which is prevalent of solutions. no to be on how to build an inspector, and that is capable of actually inspecting the fire and building se of specific facilities on the one hand. and secondly, we're also compensation has already been provided according to international vendors know to be to, to test re fire and the run a plaza disaster. so there's also so much that's going to be taken and mainstream throughout the economy from that specific sector. stephan, speaking about those solutions that's been, was talking about. so you have this industry where you have key players, the global fashioned retailers, the trade unions. you have 15 uni as affiliated with with you. and then you have the factory owners and still having these same problems. do you think that this could be their moment to talk about an independent inspection mechanism that would

be overseeing all the different aspects of the, of the process to prevent such incidents in the future? thanks. i said as a great question, i think for us this 1st i think we need an independent investigation. and i would encourage international observers because we need to know exactly what happened here around the plaza situation. gave us an opportunity to connect with the multi nationals those with a big reputation directly as we would side to the supply chain or to due diligence . and we think right now this is more important than ever been mentioned. it kind of it highlighted work place, occupational health and safety, and kind of it highlighted the weaknesses in our global supply chains, whether it be from the manufacturing, from the global south to the, to the global north. now we really have to look at how we're accountable and i

would encourage not just the bangladesh in forty's, but also the clients of the factories that occupational health and safety authorities. and again, it's not just the bangladesh challenge to have good quality labor inspectors who enforce regulations. so for us, we see in the sense of due diligence, so it could be a multinational contract the bangladesh company. what we read to understand, particularly in this incidence is what exactly happened and what do we need to put in place, but the battle goes on and i think that's a big question. certainly feel viewers and consumers as a whole. we all. ready want to have the best possible materials, but we've also got to understand that comes at price and bangladesh needs more investment. and we need to be able to tell the clients of the individual companies just one point on the workers' rights and freedom of association. and i agree with

that has a check record in this space, and it's difficult to raise effective unions in very small crabtree's. so we continue to work with these are unions and to have a strong relationship with government. have a troy holl type model, was. ready interest by the i are low, but we do need the global employers to recognize that they have a responsibility to every worker in their supply chain. conductor, i'm insist that the tragedy of 2013 the have been deals to try to regulate the whole sector. the 2021 international. a course for health and safety in the textile and garment industry were, was what was widely seen as a, as a turning point. because 1st of all, it's a legally binding pat, where all the parties will be held accountable in case of a disaster. but in this particular case, is it the,

the atmosphere of impunity which has been prevailing in your country there has contributed to this tragedy. i think a berryman got more sick than what we observe over the decade is, is some sort of a shared responsibility both from the branch buyers point of view as well as from the suppliers end as well as on the local government as well as international. no source in countries, and therefore a good improvement happened in terms of improvement of the workplace safety in the regimen gamez sector. what is unfortunate burg here is that not all the supply gains are so much strong, particularly with regard to the global supply chain. and we are very few of such industries which are very strong global supply chains other than the regimen gama sector. and deck has a major problem here. i had is that we could actually create much more pressure

from best supply buyers end to improve the in the workplace, safety and security. unfortunately, we observed that even the branch buyers and that the rational buyers has taken a major initiative from the global compliance point of view, it is rather easier for improvement of the workplace safety here. and for, for debt point of view, the non regiment gone, the sector has limited abner participation, although that international abram inspires. so there is a challenge of the how he could actually em know, improve it to the local level initiatives that there are some initiatives we are currently ongoing. along with this investment development authority has taken any shape by inspecting 5000 and factories, but this is at that, but it really at a dis my elementary level, which has need to have a major, significant improvement number of, of, of a mo, inspecting, and thereby creating a safety framework, unless and until

a safety fremont could be stablished and all responsible against this could be now brought in did. and to get a spot make irresponsible. it is rather difficult for from to ensure the safety at this stage. so i think a look a level initiative here. busy for the non ready montgomery sector is very, very important for her to be set in just a safety forum under the ilo, a guy that has now try to establish an industry of safety framework in the country . been again, i have him issue with a we're, we're, we're with the, with the agreements with the intention of the government. but like with this particular d of the last deal, they said that that is an entity called the gama sustainability council. the gc, the g s c, which, which is mandated to of a c, the implementation of the deal. i ensure that the workers in the garment industry operate in a very safe environment. no warning whatsoever. i mean, you ask anyone who is dealing with this sector and who will tell you, you know,

it is just a matter of time before another incident we'll hit again and again that's analysis is certainly correct because the reason that that once run up the happens people had to resort to an international court was know to be a failure of national institutions to prevent it because even before on the or even before it does ring, there's also a decade of track record of industrial accidents. so even at that moment in time, and that's unfortunately now, almost 10 years ago that was a disaster in the making and people were already seeing it coming. it was just not clear bad and it was extent. so in that sense, it's very painful to see how we did it has been learned, whereas all the elements are on the table. so indeed, maybe the reason that the court,

the international agreement between grant and international union was formed was no to need to find a form of accountability and transparency at international level. knowing that the collusion between industry interest and the government was too intense. and that's to allow for an independent inspectorate here depending on the sector, we really need to maybe tailor that a bit. but the same ingredients of independence to the inspectorate accountability . transparency. bassett are on the table. second to me everything related to unions because mr. colton has also focused on that unions on dash, don't have a lot of space. the internet, the labels falls short to international minimum standards and already again for us to decades. and the ilo has repeated the pointed extension on that. and there's also repeatedly been roadmaps on how to amend labor law,

how to improve labor inspectorate, etc. how to establish conventional safety committees. though it's really about read those things point and then the 3rd pillar, the 3rd pillar is after on a plaza. and when we did manage to come up with an international compensation scheme, which was alliance with iowa convention, $1.00 to $1.00. so that is approved model, which is up to the march. the question there was to generalize that into a national employment entry insurance that would have immediately now take started compensation. okay. the victims and that's still not on the table. so that's also planned that this ready and ready to roll out. stephen, when you look, this is, this is an economy that is recovering from the covey. 19 pandemic. 2 years ago to, i mean $2800000000.00 worth of orders were either canceled or paused. now there is massive pressure on the workers to boost production and i think that wages safety

conditions now are going to be relegated to the sidelines. we all these concerns now about safety procedures. so for us, the principal was laid out by our colleague from the main very, very so i think it's. ready critical and we learned throughout the periods, but you have to build very strong collaborations and i think it's our invitation to the bangladesh government, but also the leading brands of those contracts. i think it actually critical in the european union. we've seen new laws come in france and laws in the process in germany about due diligence, and what does that mean? it means that the contract or the economic employer, the multinational need firm, has responsibility all the way through the supply chain. now we understand the economic pressure on the bangladesh government to bring foreign currency. but of course, it doesn't work unless you have a strong,

independent in labor inspector. it doesn't work unless you have strong trade unions to represent the workers in the workplace and with an influence in the legislation . so for us, it's a critical time to reflect. this incident is one of many. something isn't working as it should do, and we need to re energize the significance stakeholders. and let's be very clear. economic power of the multinational firms that needs to be brought to clay, to home each and every part of the supply chain. so the manufacturing, the transportation that question here into an accountability in a very clear stand. and of course all of us in the light and a very key thank you to, to be part of that process. thank you. on the home was them been bump strata and stephanie catherine, i really appreciate you and i think you and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website,

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