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americas. in los angeles, this week, brazilian police have opened a criminal investigation into the disappearance of an indigenous expert and a british journalist missing in the amazon, as, according to the reuters news agency, bruno pereira, the brazilian specialist, an isolated tribes was with don phillips. it was on a reporting trip there. there's fierce fighting in seattle and yet scarce ukrainian or russian forces battle for control of the city. the cranes, presidents as his troops may be out numbered, but they won't give up. their julia's governing party is holding his primaries to choose a candidate for the presidential election. next year. visors of delegates from the old progressives congress, a meeting in a museum. you k prime minister bowers johnson's told his cabinet to get on with a job around 40 percent of his own. m. p. 's. what against him? a mondays confidence vote and those are the headlines. the news continues here on alta 0 in about 25 minutes after inside story. goodbye.
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i shooting them off the edge of the ah british prime minister boris johnson has withstood a challenge to his conservative party leadership with an election, if he is away, can he regain and peace trust? and perhaps more importantly, that of the british people. this is inside story. ah
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hello, welcome to the program, am hashem abala? the u. k. prime minister says it's time to move on from questions about his leadership. boris johnson survived a competence vote within his own party. monday, calling the outcome convincing and it is size of result by the scale of the rebellion means some government ministers and aids voted against johnson in the secret ballot while supporting him in public. not since margaret touched his leadership challenge in 1990. has there been such a close vote? even though he survived this round? it's definitely raising doubts about by johnson's future. 211 conservative ampio voted to support the prime minister, while a 148 voted against him. that means 40 percent of johnson's colleagues chose not to
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back him as, as he does pull brennan report from london a victory for the prime minister. but far from convincingly the vote in favor of having confidence embarrass. johnston said it was $211.00 popes and a vote against was a $148.00 votes. and therefore, i can announce to parliamentary party does have ah, a raucous reaction from boris johnson. supporters with no disguising the enormity of the 148 m. p. 's who voted against their own leader. so convincing result, a decisive result of what it, what it means is that as a, as a government we can move on and focus on the stuff, i think really matters to people mistaken recently. feverish speculation about
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ballast johnston's political future had been relegated somewhat by last week's 4 day national holiday in honor of the cruise pattern jubilee. the public doing which greeted the prime minister at friday service of thanksgiving for the queen was an ominous indicator. ah, a random sample of london commuters confirms a certain degree of public disillusionment. i thought i was so talented actually that he got those. i think that was almost like africa term despite securing a solid atc majority in the general election just 2 and a half years ago. but as johnson has enjoyed months of controversy and criticism, which have steadily undermined his authority chief among them the party gates saga, where johnson and many of his stuff were found to have flouted covey, lockdown rules at downing street gatherings, johnson became the 1st p. m. judge, to have broken the law while in office deficient inquiry into those events,
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criticized the lack of leadership. the british public off fed up set up with a prime minister who promises big, but never delivers. fed up with a prime minister who's presided over a culture of lies a law breaking. the heart of government fed up with a prime minister, who is utterly unfit for the great office that he holds, its victory for boris johnson, but hardly a ringing endorsement of him and his leadership. one commentator on monday said johnson's appeal within the party was a mile wide, but just an inch deep. and so it seems. johnson himself will undoubtedly battle on fighting tooth and nail to retain his grip on power. but his options are rapidly dwindling. the current rules mean it will be at least 12 months before a new confidence vote can be caught. the questions about the prime minister's judgment and credibility remain and precedent shows that surviving a confidence vote often represents only a stay of execution for tory leaders. rather than a full reprieve, pull brennan,
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al jazeera, westminster. ah, let's bring in our guests in london. kevin craig is ceo and founder of pier lamar communications in edinburgh ross. greer is scottish green party politician, a member of the scottish parliament in london. and i mendoza is executive director of the henry jackson society. welcome to the program. kevin for prime minister. he was the people to tell the chapter. move on, do you see it that same way? i think even somebody who tries to be as politically neutral as possible in this country has to say now it's going to be very difficult for the prime minister to move on. he may have won the vote of confidence last night about among pays. but look at this statistic in the house of commons in the british parliament,
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211 of the 650 m pays. think that the prime minister is the right man to leave the country. and i know you can say a win by one is a win. but last night with a historically exceptionally low level of support for a sitting conservative and pay. and i think in reality, with all these challenges coming ahead, the environment, the cost of living, the conflict in you, it is going to be very difficult for bar johnson who is a great political survivor to see this through. we have 2 big moments of danger coming up next month in person for head number one, a late june to parliamentary by elections. if he loses both of those. in particular, one way the liberal democrats, they do one of the top 5 policies in this country, like the greens,
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if he lose news about it, is to be a trouble. and we have a house of commons privileges committee, publicly looking into whether or not the prime minister lied to the house of commons. so yes, he won last night. technically an arithmetic times. this is not the last, the opposition chaos critical of the outcome of the vote and also the legacy of mr . johnson do. are you one of those who think that his days are numbered? it's very clear that when 3 quarters of his back bench m. p 's, back bench, tory and peace, say we have no confidence in him. it's time to go. or students normally survival of confidence because of the pete oval, the large number of tori and piece are ministers, junior ministers, parliamentary secretaries, who are part of the government. when you've lost control of 3 quarters of your own
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back bench parliamentary party, never mind the rest of the country. clearly your days are numbered to resume survived the vote with no confidence with a larger margin than this and was still going within a few months. it's not just about the fact that boris johnson and all of the was around to broke the rules that they were setting during coven, it's the fact he lied about this whole episode shows up one of the traits that most people in the u. k. always knew about forest johnson and people who has class that they think they can get away anything because so much of their life has been spent not having to deal with the consequences of their own decisions. nice collins, i was in a different place and it's gotten never had confidence in bars. jones in the 1st place is part. you have never won an election here. you have to go back to the fifty's for the predecessor party to 11, but it's quite, quite clear across the u. k. there's absolutely no trust in the prime minister when you've got the cost of living crisis, a war on the european continent. i claim emergency and so much so deeply wrong with our economy. you need politicians, you need to be there so you can trust force. johnson has used that all up to quite
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clearly live, not just the parliament but the public as well. alan, do you see boys johnson bouncing back in the near future? well, i think and he's going to need to bounce back if he's going to survive. that's the reality of this. yes, he did secure a victory. it was a victory. ultimately, you know, you could have come with that backdrop the, your previous guests have set out. you might have expects him to lose that, but he didn't me hold on. i was, i think it's maybe a mistake to think it's only his back pension. those are not the others, you know, ambitious people, you know, maneuvering within the cabinet itself to, to look at this particular site for a 2nd. he's one the vote. maybe it wasn't, you know, a convincing as convincing a victory as he would have liked. he now has a brief period of time when he can reset or attempt to reset the agenda. and the reality is he needs to do this very quickly. he does have a, a problem or 2 by elections coming up. we'll see how the concert is doing that,
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but i would expect if he really wants to kind of stay in this job, i expect that to be a really shuttle of his government and not expect that to be a series of policy launch is to show that he is leading once again. i think part of the reason he's been in trouble is because as a sense of government has been a little bit in britain or maybe events i've contributed about now he needs to get a handle not very quickly. and if he can, i think he is possible. he could turn this around simply because and he has a remarkable ability to get out of the positions others might not manage to kevin, judging from the results. so the confidence vote is here likely to be able to hold the party together because there's absolutely no doubt in the mind of the people who are watching the vote, the tories on more devices than ever. yes, i'm going to make a real effort here to be to try and be really fair to the prime minister and try to
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be very measured in what i say. but look at the reality we have now on social media. a briefing note written by conservative em pays, outlining in great detail, the floors and all the reasons why or if johnson makes a terrible prime minister once a week. here in britain we have prime ministers questions. i can you imagine how terrible it's going to be every week when the leader of the labor party, the leader of the s and pay the scottish nationalist policy in westminster. they get out and they go. i met tax sheet to really use viciously against the prime minister, not written by people who done conservative. this is written by conservative and pays and the reality i heard what your previous guess that and that is one of the
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rest of the way forward. but sometimes in politics in this country, you can, you can smell the way that things are going. and even though we want a last night, you know, it is, i cannot see boris johnson leaving the conservative party into the next general election. i'll tell you this labor party certainly would love it if he did it currently. but in terms of political strategy, a clever thing to do for the concert which i've done before, because we all know on this show tonight and very, very clever winning elections is to find a new leader and then try and make the rest of the country. forget that it's actually been the conservatives with probably this, the since 2010. that would be the type of thing to do that. that's what they'll probably do was what would be the future for the opposition ios? i would assume that they would like to see the moment, but ultimately, despite all the statements made by the opposition,
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we still talking about the men who that his party to a landslide victory in 2019 and for many still remains invincible. kevin's right for those was an opposition party is boris johnson is the perfect opponent for the scottish independence movement. he's absolutely the perfect opponent. he's everything that we won at people to believe westminster politics as and, and the reasons why people in scotland should vote for independence even for the u . k waiver party. of course, he's the perfect opponent, but we also believe he should go because that's the right thing. there should be consequences for your actions in this country, especially when you occupy the highest office. and so as much as yeah, it would be actually fantastic for everyone who's got conservative opponent travaras johnson to still be in place at the time. the next election is the right thing for him to go there. and i'm quite sure that conservative m. p 's will not be motivated by doing the right thing. they will be motivated by their own self interest. they'll be seeing the same pulling that the rest of us are that their
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support in the so called red wall across the north of england is massively rooted. their support in core conservative areas in the southeast south of london is massively eroded as well. they'll be looking at their own self interested. they really want to keep him on the part and we are going to cost them their own seat and the road and job. i think that is what's gonna push more conservative and peace over the edge. and i absolutely agree, he will not be the leader of the conservative party come the next election. and he tapped to an agenda together to, to meet his part, to unite his part. never mind united country. if you think of the 2 most memorable things he's done in recent weeks, one was no, as it was russia, you're not condensing a windfall tax that the opposition had forced the men to. it's a watered down version of it, something the opposition force that wasn't the conservatives on the only conservative made policy, i can remember from the last few weeks is their announcement that they're bringing back pines announces imperial measurements. birth johnson does have a governing agenda. he wants to be, he's always wanted to be prime minister. he doesn't actually want to do the job of
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being prime minister. we need someone who's out to interest. ok. doing this job at time is critical, is less alan, could the economy be his last chance to win the hearts and minds of the british people? particularly if he manages within the upcoming months to fix the issues of the cost of living inflation and also the demand domestic energy costs. well, of course that would be a dramatic turnaround. i think we're going to manage expectations on that one. i'm in reality, we're in a global situation when it comes to the cost living crisis a something being shared across the world right now. and maybe we'll manage it better than other people maybe way. but i think we've got some way to roll on that subject. if we get to the end point, but i actually want to come back on what ross said, there is something to the idea that he has to now show leadership. what i said at the start, the reality is if there is no leadership coming forth from boris. now i do think he has sunk as the prime minister and leave the conservative party. his only chance of coming out of this is going to be to put together an agenda that firstly,
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give some hope to his policy that you know, their interest and concerns being met. secondly, gives me the country, interests and concerns are being met in that way. now he's a very good vision person and he's a very good motivator. and to give an example of that, look at the work he's done in ukraine where he's essentially led the world on that . yes, of course president biden's are joined in on that as well. but if you compare whether europeans are large due to where the british have been or is, has come out. and it's been one of his finest hours, if he can transfer that level of leadership to the domestic agenda. and it's going to obviously be a big ask, but if he can, then there is a root out of this for him most definitely. so i think people respond to that. kevin, what does it live political life in the u. k? are we likely to see more political in fighting divisions and posturing among all the political parties for a bigger say in the near future? i think the biggest consequence of what happened, which i think probably all of us would agree on this. the is the uncertainty and it
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is a remarkable fact to remember that in december 20 1943 point 6 percent of the popular vote in britain, the general election voted for the conservative party led by johnson. it is an incredible story of what can change and a very short period of time, less than 3 years. and yes, the there is uncertainty. we have to try and my job to advise clients, public sector, charity, and business. you don't what's gonna happen next? i'm just now the reality is devoris johnson agenda. whatever that turns out to be is going to be very difficult to get through in parliament because i go back to the fact that only 20650 british and pays think he's the,
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the joe. so of course it's some certain i think you're right if it wasn't for ukraine, i think he would have lost last night because he has done what i expect any prime minister to have done with parish from the front. but, you know, it is going to be the most incredibly volatile and uncertain time in british politics up to the last possible date of the general election in december 24. and that will have implications internationally, because you will probably see a different sets of leaders going into the general direction. and the new prime minister is more likely. now in my was when you look at the legacy of what johnson people have been talking about, his eccentric behavior. but what, you know, when you look at the start of the pandemic, he was late to respond. however, the way he responded later by maximizing the vaccine drive in the country,
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opening up the society when most of europe was with skeptical about that new the way he's been handling the ukraine crisis, gives you an indication that the someone who is going to fight until the on for his political survival indicates that bars, johnson well fight for one thing and that's his own job. no. for the public. there were so many steps he could have taken through the panoramic that would have saved more lives and he didn't do it. what we're seeing, that is a man who's fighting really, really hard, but to keep his own job. if i think of bars johnston's legacy of his time in office these last couple years, i think the 20 pound cop to universal credit paying millions of families back and to crisis. i think the, the devastation to our public services. i think of the fact that yes, in the last few months he may have shown became a leadership we would expect from any british prime minister over it ukraine. but this is the leader of a conservative party. his accepted incredibly large donations from those very, very closely associated with father. mir couldn't done nothing until recently to
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clean up a huge amount of money wandering. and the 2nd one that finance is the cram one and others. and even notice that they're taking are completely inadequate. is not good enough to only be the kind of prime minister who's capable of putting in effort and when your own job is on the way the prime minister shooting. and i for every single day for the people, not just those who liked them. obviously for the whole country, for the pano as a whole, boss, johnson doesn't do that because as i said before, he's always wanted to be prime minister. he's never actually wanted to do the job of prime minister, and we need someone who will do that job in a ton of climate. americans in economic crisis. never mind war on our continent. we need somebody who wants to do the job, not somebody who just wants to go down and history books, a certified the building. alan. oh, do you think has a potential to take over become the next successor of boys johnson? i'm a give you a list of names less trust than what us riches. so not penny long drawn. and jerry hunt, well, ever got their own, you know,
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kind of abilities and sort of negatives attached to them either by the way, there are a few others who would be upset. they're not on on your list. people like, not in the hallway graham chateau, it's quite a number of people who could quite happily and make it on to be prime minister. the question really is, at the moment, and it's still boris johnson's to lose a such. he's got this opportunity now to come out swinging in the way. we've seen him do it before. and i think it's fair to say that he only hear me sort of acts with his jobs that state, you know, some of the decisions he made during pe be that not to do with his job at stake. these are big decisions for the country, decisions to push forward in certain ways versus others. it mistakes are made, but she may country mistakes were not made. i think what's interesting is he's got the big calls right in the past few years. the question is on now the biggest cold war, which is frankly, the agenda for this country going forward. is he going to get that right? and this will be the test? can he come out and will he be able to speak to people in the street as it were and
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say, look, i know what your concerns are. i feel the same as you, and this is what i intend to do about it. that's why he won that big majority in 2019 because he was able to address that. so the question now is, can he summoned up the spiritual that once again in very difficult circumstances and provide a winning combination and the answer to his premise ship and whether any, there's others will say, go russ solely on that question. kevin, now the labor party seems to be making some gains in the, in the latest surveys. but however, you see the potential for, for the labor party to take over in the upcoming general elections. and you think that the public opinion is going to be willing to move forward to a new leadership against the backdrop of a dysfunctional economy, and as wishes in tatters. huge political problems, and you have the war in ukraine. what i think the labor party on the case is more electable and more credible that at any time in many, many years. i think as care himself would say as leader or say, it was very,
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very bad defeat to 2019. it was the labor parties. what was out since the 19th i don't automatically and the right to govern, just because the other side. in other words messing itself, that's not enough to hope to win by default. and i think the challenge for security or in the labor party is to outline a vision of what rich looks like under his leadership job is not yet complete, as he would say. but the one thing he does have a favor is that people trust him more. i think he has integrity. i think that the theory we've just heard about what our jobs could do is fine. i think every piece of evidence suggests the moment british public. i'm not listening, i think don't leave orest anymore. case challenges, increases personality,
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public feeling, see, i outline that vision for what the country is and that would be for the green. my colleague a represent tonight. yeah, that's, that's the challenge, or they are doing much, much better than they were, was briefly if you don't mind what was a problem with boris johnson, his personal behavior was, or the substance of the, of the legacy itself. the substance of his time in office is done far, far more damage to the british public than his behavior. his behavior is choking. why in parliament lined to the public? that's an acceptable but this is a prime minister who presided over cups to universal credit. a huge numbers of families back into financial crisis. anytime or there's an existing cost. if i've been crisis, he's our prime minister who's presented over more arm sales to some of the worst human rights abusers on the planet. a government that's just a green one and your gas bill in the north sea, just
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a few months after hosting the call 20 sex climate summit. these are all decisions that we will have to bear the consequences all for decades. and in the case of the kind of decisions for centuries to come, those are the real pricing reasons why we need a change of government in the u. k. why i believe scott needs actually to leave the entire house to live. the ross grant. kevin craig, a mendoza, thank you very much indeed for the insight. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha insights laurie also joined the conversation on twitter. i'll hand it is add a j insightfully from the hospital and the entire team here in the bye for now. ah
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