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working on his song with their shove id tried. we accompanied him during an expedition several months ago in the same area where he was last seen with dom phillips, biddy. it was already being threatened because he was helping local tribes collect evidence of the invasions to their territories and report them to local authorities . here both of them are 1st, we were very hopeful that both men were alive because dumb was with bruno, who is very experienced. the family thought there must have been ambushed, but managed to hide the boat and escape through the forest. but our week has gone by and our hopes are diminishing. all we will now is for them to be found. we have a right to know what happened to them. this marching is not only to put pressure on the government to find rider don phillips and indigenous extra little bitty era. so we're a bigger cause. people here say, both men, defender saving the amazon kleiner korean, our give,
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i'll just iraq rio de janeiro. ah. hello again. i'm fully battle with the headlines on al jazeera asian storms have fallen sharply falling arise in inflation in the u. s. is fear, the federal reserve could increase interest rates of curb rising prices. japan's nikkei in big $70.00 cost been south korea both fell around 3 percent. the indian ropey hit a record law against the usda. rob mcbride has more from sol. there are also a local concerns here which have made the markets jittery. we have another koby 19 outbreak in beijing that has prompted concerns that once again the chinese authorities pursuing this policy of 0 covey may take the decision to close down parts of the chinese capital once more impacting our port. and there are these continuing fears that with this inflationary rate,
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that the u. s. federal reserve may once again raise interest rates. human rights groups have launched an 11th sour appeal to try to start the u. k. from sending asylum seekers to wander. campaigners are asking the court of appeal to reverse a high court judgement approving the government plan. the 1st flight is scheduled to leave on tuesday. in france, reson demario, mac homes majority the national assembly is under threat preliminary results from our 1st round of parliamentary elections. but his sentries, coalition, neck, and neck, with its left wing rival in iraq 73 members of the biggest political block have resigned from parliament. the lawmakers belong to a party led by shia cleric mac tod asada and moved means more uncertainty. after 8 months of political deadlock, a group of us senators has agreed on a bipartisan proposal for tighter control after tying a gun control after a series of mass shootings. it focuses on so called red flag laws aimed at stopping people from buying guns if they're considered a threat. and police in brazil say they've identified items belonging to
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a reporter and an indigenous rights expert who went missing in the amazon, a backpack, a laptop in id cards were found in the eat chi river. indigenous rights expert, bruno pereira and british journalist don phillips, disappeared a week ago. the men were on a reporting trip in a remote jungle area near the border with through and columbia. those are the headlines next on al jazeera. it's inside story, stay with us. we understand the differences and similarities of cultures across the world. so no matter what lucy al jazeera will bring you the news and current affairs that matter. to you, al jazeera, one child, and 10 around the world is forced into work, but progress on eliminating child labor. her tools un says prophecy and rising
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living costs could create millions more child labor as. so what would it take to bring that to an end? this is inside story. ah, ah. hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. every day, an estimated 160000000 children are forced to work often in dangerous conditions. some are as young as 5 years old. this is united nations world's day against child labor is calling for better social protections. so parents aren't forced to send the youngsters to work. these include free education, child care, and child support payments. it's one of 6 points of action agreed last month at a labor international label organization conference in south africa. delegates were told that another $9000000.00 children could be pushed into the workforce by the
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end of the year. one rescued child work from india explained how access to education helped end child labor in her village. what may happen if the i'm the 1st go to complete class 12 exams in my community, just like right now that is no child doing labor in my village. there should be no child labor in any part of the world. i want to ask you a question. we kids don't have the authority to cast a vote. so should we have the authority to do child labor? is it the children for that? we are born in a small village, so we don't have the right to childhood bit freedom. we also one freedom. we also won the right to education. but in many countries, children have no choice but to earn a living. that's a growing concern. as high inflation pushes up the cost of food, energy, and housing worldwide. got the one and i am the eldest in the family. and so i am in charge of supporting my sisters and brother and helping my mother find food. in
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the morning, i do the chores, then i come to work to search for gold. if we find something i buy the food, then i make the meal school is not an option for me or any of the children here that were forced me to work as a situation. my father is on well and can't work anymore. and i only have one brother up working from time to time during the month. while children across the globe are routinely engaged to in, paid and unpaid forms of work. so would actually constitute child labor. well, in national no classified children, as child labors when they carry out any work was under 13 years of age. 18 is the minimum age for carrying out work considered harmful long term whether physically, emotionally or mentally. although child labor can increase a household income in the long term, it perpetuates household poverty. the more child work, because in the economy, the lower their wages and latest estimate suggest child labor is increasing. amongst children,
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age 5 to 11. are now at least 16800000 more child labor's than in 2000, and 1640 percent of them carry out dangerous work. the. let's bring in august now and in new delhi, we have shopped us in a founder of m. v foundation. that's a charity working on ending child labor in new york, stephen black, global senior child protection advice at the u. n. children's agency unicef, and in dhaka and biologists not the actor, the founder of our watch foundation and a former child worker in the garment industry. very welcome to all of you. shanta. if i could start with you, just to give us a bit more of a broader idea as to what child labor actually means, is it only when a child is working instead of going to school, does it include children who might say, work in a family shop after school or help periodically with the harvest,
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what does it actually involve? would strive by saying that's fine labor or should be defined as children of the school. you know? and also say that what time does not in school and then in town on the other. and you will, if she's not in some form of work today, she's going to be only part open until labor force. so i would try and they would, as in the chart of the school and trying to school, i should still think that the time before and after school hours should not be working bridges of better attending school and participating in school as an he does. in fact, i take a really strong style on the matter saying that you wouldn't report an after school hours to do for margin lives in published communities that the otherwise you
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should have the phone books and should be able to get faster. be attention enough money. you yourself or a child laborer, and tell us what you did and why you did this. thank you. well i, i did because i mean, you ready war and i need to support my family. that if i started watching the age of 11 and i worked like 10 to 14 hours in a day, and it's not that a very good journey are really interesting things for us. and also, you know, that one of the challenges, what does my mother also work in the factory? and she's not earning much more than me. so that is also one of the issues, because the minimally living was, is needed for the adults and balance. because that is why sometimes there be
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motivated also and also what we're facing in my country and also the country. because children are mostly do a very unique kind of work. if i'm going to the very last lot, each jewelry that address the embroidery and also very i have that us in the us work. children are there is very much usable and also that children, when you shuttled you early, they are scared, then they can do more work. so this kind of seems to be going on and abuse are a digit, and there is no really doing that is no good system for things and we don't have an action plan. so it's very difficult also that when the family is not getting proper with benefit and social action insurance
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policy, a lot of issues are at this thing. and also another issue is that i live, it is interesting because most of the women's weren't working no child. yeah, no me, yes and are all going to know is a do quit and sufficient. there must be that women's work are slow writing. so this is also one of the challenge that this is that children. and she said, living in the village and 2 months maybe as separate from the parents of so many issues. and also, you know, mostly the informal sector. so call informal safety where the legally is not required job on track. and the piece of that is that all men and children are abused and what, what doesn't have any type of mission. and then not has like a walk show, the transportation factory that they're working. and that's,
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that is one of the issues isn't really much difficult. just briefly, but you started at age 11, so that means you left school at age 11. we were ever able to return again to school. no, because i didn't want that to return to school because i work in the, to the like, more than 80 hours. and then i realized because how i did print from the education i did broadway as a citizen, as a fundamental as a child. so that is why when i work in the, actually when i lost my job, i was union organizer. and i had another issue. and then i decided i should do something for our cell but should do something more on them association, freedom of access, an expression and how we can use these kind of expectations i live and i also a speak on that's only about issue when i was young until now,
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and trying to find actually trying to get it on our gosh, i suddenly want to come back and get more of an idea of the, of the success of your work so far. but just for the moment, i want to bring stephen into the discussion. i think that was very clearly showed us some of the push factors that push children into labor and also how that can have a negative effect on the child and the family. because the children don't get the education, but stephen, can you give us a more of an idea of where we see these cases of child labor and what are the factors that lead to massive pockets of them in certain parts of the world? now thanks forgot, and i mean one thing to keep in mind is over the last 2 decades, there's been a, you know, a trend downwards in terms of prevalence of child labor. so there has been progress that's been made. but where that progress has stalled,
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what we've been 10 pointing is firstly in sub saharan africa. and secondly, the agricultural sector. ok. so about, you know, of the $100.00 to $60000000.00 out of, out of, in child labor, about $86000000.00 of those are in sub saharan africa and 70 percent of those in child labor are in, in agriculture. why do you think that is the well, in terms of the regional trends, there is that there's a number of factors that sort of come together in sub saharan africa. one is relatively high level of poverty. in sub saharan africa, the i'm lago, economic in formality,
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which means that their work places are less regulated. social protection systems are relatively weaker in many of the countries in that continent. i, education, i'm an access to free and quality education is weaker. we also have a larger growth in the younger age population in sub saharan africa. and i think you mentioned before, we're seeing a big growth in the 5 to 11 year olds in, in child labor. and then finally, i think issues of state rigidity, crisis, conflict situations. i mean are regions of the work all of these that contribute to child labor. but i think there might be a greater convergence in subsaharan africa. certainly when it, you know, concerns high levels of small holder agriculture. ok. so i want to return to that
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point in just a moment, but just before we do chance, i want to get an idea from you whether you use or a similar trend that in india, the numbers of child labor is declining, stalling off the 2016, and whether you was saying rising numbers in agriculture as well, i intend through, you know, the last ticket that has been positive about the time they were decreasing in india and that's a lot to do with another on encompass the education and children going to school that you just safety as the state action on the rafters, but i'm shipping the order to to shouldn't, has to order the clock back. and to do that again, back in 2 hours of back and gotten back and forth like back in gregory. and so in a way, i would think that there is an exacerbation of one that the need for the gee
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and the better to girls and their motor and work. i'm not going back into books. i should like to say, you know, just one point that normally let me say that or this is happening to what i think on this is happening because it is stake, complacency and state inaction. there is just not enough instructor to birthday children and even the state begins to argue that children are working well. i think they would have to abandon the what would you give me more than what would be i think because of the argument that makes children work their shows of t playbook, they can exploit it and talk to but for long hours. in fact, we had, she did bring her from also the schools, the region for women went up with me 5 times protection systems and began to
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function schools began to function in the back try and it would cost would be depressed, be just it growth and lower your life in the family. i mean you should stop arguing that children are poor and so they have to tutored house, right, that entitlement orders. they're not responsible for the forward g, u and re other sponsible and the status responsible and take care of children. justice is what we should talk about inequality and argument. one of the is what get the box. finally, we cannot any more analysis of why i knew, but i think for none from was do experiences and talk about how to bring to the question, how is so so important and we will get on to that in just a moment. first, i want to check with not whether you agree with shanta,
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that is his state inaction. that is the reason, the main driver of these high high numbers of child labor that was saying and if it's the case that was taken bangladesh. yes, i totally agree with that. our, she said also the cheap labor and what i really mentioned earlier that the parents need to be decent with this and dissent working condition. that is also one of the issues and also for a quality of education education as not properly have them back to recently the dish government is really i look convention 138 and does my last mark. but it's not only that education back, they need to be also action plan how they have to function level the certification, even our country, the last state. if you're below a workers, you need to get fido,
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our slides, and let's talk about our for education and recreation, but nobody's ala is and bother. legislastion has a lot of responsibility for food and education, and social protection and see what of our group. all kind of things are very much absent. one can be like one that i was it was back in 2015 world leaders committed to ending all forms of child labor by 2025. that's 3 years away. why have they not done it? you know, it's, it says, i saw santa for example, mentioned, i mean, this is our rights issue. there's been a number of international treaties. there's been the 2 ilo treaties that i think are referenced as a convention on the rights of the child. and as well. and, and, and so any child and labor is it is not tolerable, and we all have an obligation to,
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to bring it to an end. progress has been made on since 2015 as mentioned. but it is a stalled. and i'm one of the areas, one of the factors i think we have to look at is the, the impact of coven 19, which i'm, you know, as well as, i'm increasing poverty. it highs on. i'm as well. and you know, kids stop going to school as schools were closed and i'm not brought more and more of them back into family agriculture as families. i know their family occupations as you know, parents didn't of the child care and uh, there was no alternative other than than work. so that's been a big set back to our god, to our efforts. i think to, to, you know, get, get back on track. and i, you know,
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in the current context, i mean, you really, really need to double down on this some social protection element. making sure that that poor families get the income support necessary to get time to their kids don't resort to working. and then stepping up the work to get kids back into school and to keep them in school. so we don't want to see the an outcome of the coven 19 crisis. i being a big increase in child labor. santa, as you said, we need to about what needs to be done. and this is one big theme of this is un day for child labor. do you feel that it is a priority for government? so they have taken this on board and they're going to create this social protection for people with a real desire to end child labor. oh,
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i do hope it can happen, but so far, one has not seen signs with children since trying to do what is he making for goldman during the course? of course they were totally lost in spoken about after over by the id and the you and agencies or so. but then because not by the or gotten that's already and within the country. if i attended a structure, the need to doubling the investment to get children back into school after forward, you know, and under the shooting them giving us that last or last your dreams and aspirations for higher education cannot be just the truth of the that we will bring you back to school, that kind of worries a strong walker from this jefferson that has gone and yet i think he wants to have both centralized movement and
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a noise and saying that you're free care where you get back to schools and then making the school ready for the. busy registration, making the school ready for the drawbridge courses group actually did learning through all the talking to, to, to walk through during the summer during the day for you know, your winter. ringback then on what you're doing and going to connect with the board children is so important. mom, thing of that sorta. so what happened? i'm not sure this is happened in other countries, but you know, generally when one reads interested in the matter, it seems that are gone from. but then action is warranty. exactly. but i want to bring you in at this point because i want to know if we do have any positive examples of where this has happened and where it has worked.
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yeah, that was, i mean, you mentioned the durbin called to auction, the recent conference that took place and on, you know, given, you know, you were accepting the points that conferences don't to solve problems, but they do serve a couple of important functions. one is to share those experiences and i, and good practices, and then to, you know, re forge thought that tom, that government commitment. so we've seen a number of positive examples from around the world where the schools, for example, undertook over each programs to get those kids who were at risk of going into labor back into school and keeping them there. we've seen a big and a number of countries. i big expansion of social protection measures,
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cost grants for children with that for families with children that were i think accelerated during the covered 1900 conduct as, as, as a response. and we're also seeing, we have to keep in mind that there's also a supply chain, right? and many of the products that are engaged in producing and up in you know, and consumer societies and responsible businesses need to have some responsibility to check out their supply chains. you know, back to where the raw materials are source. absolutely, and then we're going to the lot the point to make to now that because we are running, sorry, we are running a little bit out of time. but that's been bangladesh in the country. we've got a large number of multinational working in it, in the garment industry. how much of this is an issue that those multi national
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companies should be taking on board as well as the governments of the country tells . oh, thank you a and i used to be since 90. are you still with us? i live on was that and talk to question. she was working since 19 but after grad z a and e and fighting for the industry. so we don't have that in the government sector like it's i live but, but we have, it didn't lake park in 60 years or workers started working. so what we're also explore being a local market. there is a lot of children are using an issue because of that system.
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we do have to leave it as we have run out of time for this discussion. it's a shame, it's very interesting discussion indeed. but for the moment, thank you very much. so i guess shanta seen her stephen blight and not my actor for joining us. and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again any time by visiting our website this al jazeera dot com and for further discussion do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is as a j inside story from me, laura kyle and the whole team here in doha bye for now. use from al jazeera on the guy when me tonight. out is there is a mobile app, is that this is where we dissect and like to find it out is there is
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