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and could it escalate into a full blown war between the 2 names? this is inside stored. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm a hammer, jim jim. more than 25 years after the 1st congo war, the democratic republic of congo and ra wanda, are once again engaged in dispute. the central african neighbors have accused each other of firing rockets across their shared border, including a strike that killed 2 congolese children. this seems to have been triggered by fighting between the m 23 rebel group and state forces in the east. both congo and the united nations have accused were wanda of supporting the m $23.00 movement. the u. n. has urged all parties to immediately cease all forms of violence. the region

doesn't need a new crisis. let's keep the channels of dialogue open at all levels, including at the community level and help preserve the progress achieve in the recent years. thanks to the various cooperation mechanisms. the march 23rd movement or m $23.00 is also known as the congo leaves revolutionary army. it's a rebel military group based in eastern areas of the democratic republic of congo, mainly in the province of north keybo. its leadership is made up of members of the 2 c ethnic group. they say they're aim is to fight enemy groups founded by hutus federal wanda. after the 1994 genocide, the rebels merged with the congo. these army under a peace deal signed on march 23rd, 2009. but in 2012 they said the deal had not been upheld and broke away. naming their group the march 23rd movement. the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests. in accra kamali was heavily as

a researcher at the center for research on the congo kinshasa in kigali, needing about whom lisa is a political commentator in til berg the netherlands felix, near the hinder, is a researcher focusing on conflict, peace and justice in the great lakes region, a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story kamali. let me start with you today. what's behind this new round of violence? i saw taylor will be on that for almost 6 long now. that have been in our pricing of the $23.00 in the east by the not the only militia group activity in the east. so it's very hard to know. we do know that they have been distinguished and taking place in a row, be we've many militia groups in the r c to come up with some resolution for peace or stability for the a, something organized but a president, kenya. and during this period, for some strange reasons, the m $23.00 has started

a campaign to attack un peacekeepers and also the commodities forces in specific areas. and that has continued that we've noticed that many to military power has increased tremendously by having power to attack at night by having weapons that you have before, which has caused the government to states. and there is tacit support of our congress neighbor's particular run that to them $23.00. so as i can say, i can say no, i don't really know why the tax has taken place at this present time, but it is a destabilizing force. at the moment i can probably, if i could just follow up with you, you mentioned that there are talks or negotiations going on between different groups right now. first of all, how many groups are we talking about in secondly, any indications on how those top are going. i mean, those are the militia groups. some numbers take it up to a 100 militia group there, but you have to understand even would that actually means and i,

a group may have 20 rebels, the force archipello get territory, and they are called the federal rebel group. but the way to look at the. ready groups in the eastern part of congo is that you have groups that are supported by congress neighbors, particularly run than a uganda. and you do have a local rebels was either protecting that territorial interacting into elicit trailer minerals. but the fs of that is not just back to 96 has no, not the ability. mainly because of a interference of your neighbors run than a uganda continues explicitly to support the rubber groups in the east coast to decide because they show the can. well, yes, i can say say by the 100 of them, but it doesn't much while then they go shifting no call has just joined the east africa community. they seem to be a political will in the part of kenya to see how cool can be federalized,

may be to bring about the potential of the congo for the africa community. and as i said now you're in a row, be they've been really, really pushing hard to business, but military and negotiation as being for rob groups to pull down their arms be at the grid in the society are in the military. and yes and concluded longboarding at the moment, gets it to, i want to ask you about how you see things from your vantage point there. in kigali, why are tensions escalating now? those people are surprised and confused by 2 things to do what? i'm 23 re much. so i thought that the, at the end of the, or the being one that just can, you know, people will be limited for just an opinion, but they need,

they're not being in uganda for 5 years. and 5 years, 5 years in a big growth and come to into the without being attacked. and so everybody was aware of the big m 23 in what he's for, for the last 5 years. now when they started, i wonder, what's the price point seeing that are running said that they will do that means they must be there must be supported by rhonda. i think that was one of the anthony. but what didn't often do not make a difference between people speaking rather india and one of them. and they're going to be one of the things that they're demanding, i understand is the country. and so there will be so every time they are talking because we run by the like london,

people who include that when they and saw that it said that positions were followed by a measure we had there now land run, there was land that was was license was suspended, i ambassador was someone's to be to, to receive letter. and so that was in itself. and it wasn't great, but it was already, we thought it was okay with that because the, you know, friendship is something your for style when he works with. but the problem is that ordering these sightings now the, the, as he has been shaming rwandan territory and theater is of kaniggy, which is the cause of the idea, the anti sing. now if you look at them, will follow the of the random country, which is a very small country desk and put it in

a box that falls under run into too much more diversity done. you know, then say things that have been almost 6 years. we certainly can just or just one kilometer from, from where they are. so rather is not like school rather his junior vulnerable to any of you know, they actually didn't do otherwise. surely when supervision give you the place where we have a lot in twenties in getting that, i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt you. let me get back to that point. you're making just a couple of minutes of felix. i want to ask you about your opinion on, on, if all this tension that is escalating right now could actually spill over into a full blown war between the neighbors and, and how big a fear is there right now of escalation. and, and what would that mean for the region? eileen is my reading of their the situation is that there are serious spears that this kind of skeleton to every going to work given the nature or for example,

that it, the accusations are going from different sides on the, given that the dynamics of the narratives and especially also that it kind of the flames that i needed knitting that the media, particularly social media and sports politicians reacting also towards all of that . oh, i think the threat is realistic. i mean, no, no, not with the fighting. and when are gonna order ports are occupied by the m 23? anything can happen from there. i'm with of coastal matter started now from what i can read on social media subject verifications, a lot of comedies are just having crossed again with all needed caveats to, into uganda. hello can help him out. but one would really hope that sir, all actors of good will, from the regional powers, like canyon. so on and international. interveners probably need to do something to

avoid that ex escalation. rather than that, it looks like we are putting a dentist there certain get a day of the african union is launched efforts to try and mediate this crisis between kinshasa and k golly. have has any progress been made? well, no, not really unfortunate enough for this has been made because the negotiations have to be based on facts and evidence. and we have what we call an extended strength verification mechanism. but he's been pulling in post as the deity. the not believe . i mean, for example, in the us these other month that one day supporting him 23. in spite of any independently verifiable facts they used, you know, they accepted the see if he showed on, even if he's a vision about that means they're disappointed by rhonda, but did drink verification mechanism hasn't established that so and it was usually go to school because with him to the 3 comes from rhonda,

uganda would confirm that in tennessee actually come from uganda, but it, but yes, you would busy that it comes from rhonda, even though there is no. if there's that there's the internal putting people dynamics of the d s. c. that makes it easy to pointing out, rhonda, which has nothing to do with that. it's going to leave internal affairs, which then makes it difficult for the whole. what is government to do own is that open negotiations because they have to press their own internal principal pressure . and so, and get it a, i mean if you're saying that there is a mechanism, but it sounds to me like you're also saying that that mechanism really can't function it in an appropriate way. right now, i mean, 1st of all, let me ask you, what are rwanda's immediate concerns and how then can things actually start being the escalated, though the mechanism actually equals schools will function very well under the bottom edge of the international commission for the graphics region. we haven't

make anything more than 10 countries, they fracture they do provide reports or a frequent basis. in fact, what they're saying right now is that yes, the d s. e 's shaylee ones, they run into 3. none of these international independent mechanisms are saying that the one that is supporting ds, which is why there's no country in the world that is condemning rhonda for the putting him to the people simply because there's like there's of such such a negation on india is making that image. now, how can he get b, b, s got it one. it can be a good a good evening. yes, he is capable of dealing with internal problems by negotiating with his own devereux groups. that in my opinion, that will be able to defeats media diary, but that's an internal diaz. each number 2, we are worried about 2 scenes as randoms. why they won't run that repeatedly.

when it won't kaniggy you are wanting the home to mountain guerrillas. is your critical to us? because what is it exactly the percent of our national inker, where he won't be silly, your will be a very distributed region. we the focus throne population is, is very dangerous. for us we cannot, that's number 2, number 3, and the last point that worries of a might now the government army of the repeated be on the bottom. you have a good that if you would, you the, the of the aggression of run the form of people to the gym who now they are breaking national. i'm going to get the end of the need to now they do things supported by the school, which is a you will not imagine anyone for that is called the generals. they've been treated

on a daily basis every year out of becoming something that it can bother you her get to do their bring up the role that the you in is playing. and i want to ask you about that. i mean the you in is now urging all parties involved in the growing tension between kinshasa and gali to immediately cease all forms of violence in these border regions between wanda and d. r. c. from your perspective, are there immediate steps that can be taken to ease the tensions and is the you in, in any way effective in all this of 1st we have to becca correction. they have being countries and that you are and sufficient that i have actually put pressure or wrong that to stop supporting rebel interfering. even the last that my coming from the secretary general spokesperson, i clearly stated in indirectly,

stated that outside forces number of countries to stop supporting the m 23. you may not be explicitly saying run that, but we know what that refers to when he says outside. so many initial has done so specific for the united nation. the united nation depends. the not in the shop is keeping forces. they depend on the un security council, particularly the political will of the council to and the crisis in the call for the past 25 years. we have seen numerous times that the political will, as lapse. while we are asked why no will is put it there, clearly 2 missions in the security council while playing cover for under specifically the united states and the united kingdom. i mean, some of you may know the run days about to receive over the $50000000.00 for receiving refugees from the u. k. so that you can see everything to do with making sure that if l i on the african continent that love is not held into account. same

for the united states, a concrete lee. what would bring about piecing cocoa? i think we must be very genuine, even honest we having this discussion about the r c because we speaking about it as the m 23 or before. that's just a peer meeting going off for 25 years. when you're talking about the m 23. it's connected to the c and p. when you're talking about the c n, d p is connected to the r cd while you are talking to the, our city is connected to the s d f. so i'm just throw some acronyms there. what are these names? those are the rebel group that exist in the core suspension. that is 6. how do i know that the leader of the so called m 23? so tiny, my king who has a rest warrant from what his government was not bad. he travels in uganda. all the time. also, anthony 3 rebels. we've arrest warrants while living in run and they're not be

extradited to the r c. they are all have been implicated in the was in the car, the have taken the lives of millions and even lately the person spoke before me a message, there was a shelling of you sydney and kimmy g program that was actually seep. you felt to say that just yesterday there was a bomb being of a school in the d r. c by the run military. that shell, they bombed a school where a 6 year old and a 7 year old is bye. so for piece of stability to take up to come into the region, be honest, why do we have conflict is very simple. is that this w social or the or c to get control of congress wealth using proxy, rubber militias. in this case, you're discussing them 23, felix, you know, you heard. kimberly, there are talk about the stabilization. so i want to ask you,

i mean, is the nash community doing enough to try to put pressure when it comes to the situation? and are we going to see the international community step in to help deescalate things? i mean, i can always hope on, probably think that there will be some kind of background channels and a lot of talks and a lot of it, let's say diplomatic kind of activity around trying to find a solution. i live at the interstate level and then you got to the regional level of, i mean change has been very much present in the dossier. i would expect not reflectance on yonder and under, so on to be able to, to be very much involved in trying to find a solution that, that being said, i guess we'll never have the final, let's elastic solution on this. we really tried to look at the depth of what are the issues are, are there my friend here? couple already just talked about to the you know, the acronyms on by rochester to different movements. but we need to look at the

phenomenon of m. m 23 as part of the bigger candle of problem with it. and yes is our security on and presence say we're in santos, in on the incidence on the, on the white a region. and we have to look at the history and the that the ton of unresolved issues on these need to be broken down at different levels as well. there are issues which are at a very local level in north cable, specifically. and in south people, specifically, for example, now we are taking only about and 20 speech. but last year we had close enough to the same level of heat and debate about the hope that'll solve kibble with, with fighting, still very much on going there. so in saki was, when we have quite a lot of local unresolved issues on these tend to have quite a big resonance at the national level, against, strictly speaking, within the communities that landscape. and here we are talking about issues of identity, ethnicity, citizenship, control of lawns and issues of power,

including representative within power coating are the local level for these and so on. part of the legacy of the belgian colonial systems in harrison already in the congo which successive postcolonial administration has never really lived up to reckoning when or at least are organized as should be in order to reflect madana him. second gwinnett, you look at that indeed at the regional level. so law call, national, personal regional, pointing that out. many of those problems. for example, when you're talking about that they, they, they, they identity issues. when you rinse, most of it or the narratives, you have not iran emphasis rate on social media, least even wanted to stick to that space. m 23 doesn't exist. it's nothing but a cover for rhonda. in fact, there is no such a thing as a run to form everything about imitrex. 23 is rhonda, and i think that's is a very dangerous requisite to take that additional. maybe that need to be

investigated around where are empty it's $800.00 thrive. is it supported or not? i think that's the work for all of those rental verification mechanism. i'm sure that in the coming a marks and d as we get un reports on that. we have this wrong phillips as if i could, i'm sorry i wrote but, but if i could, if i could follow up with you about a point that you're making there, i mean you have a situation here. we're both d r c and or wanda, are accusing each other of supporting arm groups and, and even of launching cross border attacks. you know, we come back to this to, to this question of, are there actual mechanisms that exist that are able to investigate these claims and, and, and how are the facts established? we have, i mean, for many years now we have hot u. n. o, a group of experts on, on the g r c. that is meant always to investigate what happens in or out of the country. every time up, he has produced tons of reports and so on, on what goes on. but i mean ripley documenting is one thing,

coming with options that are meant to resolve problems that i had in spite is another thing. and most of the time action lacks, when it comes to resolving in a lossy way. some of the issues that i did, but i did different levels i was talking about. i keep insisting that are local issues that are domestic. you something that yes, there are regional issues aren't international. did you talk about us or international when you're talking about, for example, i mean, always and so on. i'm sure that there are region interest in the commercial interests between the younger neighbors, but also the international probably even more impacts for international links. so all of those need to be ta called to and if you talk to one of those and you don't address the others, you can only postpone the problem, but it will be there that meet. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests. come by, name was a bully, get a reading, a ball room,

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