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now the born fi generation believe it is there time to fight for more people and just society. welcom for generation change a global theories and attempts to challenge and understand the ideas and mobilize you around for i'm and charlie, an independent journalist based here in japan. in this episode, we need to women who are working towards radical change to address challenges is very debt database violence, cloth and racial inequality and climate change thing . mm kid them, if they all point are to 94 at the end of it,
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what do you think people don't know about the role of women in the struggle against upon it? i really think the way in which history is told it serves a purpose, right? which is also to reinforce, you know, a male dominated a presence and power structure, right? this, this reinforcement of these motives, right? these men who come and save us vulnerable group of women which has inheritance the wrong and for women were organizing churches, sales, trade, union, women, when literally carrying the country, lay batson shoulder. how ill a history continues to omit that. and i think what it does is that it continues to pray that alienate women and their contributions they're making society with the political, social, even economic ah, we here at constitution, helen, johannesburg, and particularly in the structure we are at the women's jail. why was this
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a significant space for you when i think about the, the caliber of women that were incarcerated in this place, you know, it literally just brings me in, or it's the persistence of women writing themselves in, into history even in the absence. right? and for me, as a young feminist, as a young actor was, that has been really pinnacle in crowned in my own activism. as the new generation of the woke generation, we must never ever get tired of developing new resistance strategies. i mean, if these women were able to organize themselves, i know probably one of the most difficult conditions. i see no reason why we're unable to achieve, you know, the idea of building the biggest feminist global movement. you are now 20 think women activists since he was 17. what was the sort of compelling factor that made you think, you know, i want to be in there was a case by the go by the name of i mean poisons and western cape. she was vacancy to
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kill and to yeah, she's like, oh my gosh, i'm 17. she's 17. she got killed on the night out and i was thinking about all the times. i like to jump. okay, no, to go out with my friends. what would happen till you happen to meet those just so much uniqueness and similarity almost a decade later. and now i'm the, you know, the chair and found are, are the black roman coke as a, a. 2 you'll show what ultimately black woman caucus seeks to do is to really create society for your wives. we don't want to live this violence, prison society all the time. we want to be comfortable. i mean, i'm things like i want to be able to walk down the fuser johannesburg and not worry about and my next
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you're 17. and you've already been an activist for a few years now. how did you start and what was it that made you, scott? so it all started in 2018 when we were taught to do some research on climate change . i grew a lot of cabins, i t, c, and all these facts about how we have limited time and watching my future fade away as the health of our environmental kinds and what it ignited. my activism was the society to do everything in my power to create a change what i mean, some people will say that you know what? this stuff is. will people who can afford to have 5 different bins and recycled buds? you know, you spoke into the fact that it does affect people who, you know, live in the townships, 4 people. the 1st time i came to realize the seriousness behind environmental racism. when i spoke to a friend of mine, who said when she was very young,
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she had to live with her grandmother was stating to wait till we say they, she developed breathing difficulties. and of years later when she moved back to the server, everything was fine. and that's when she made the link bad as the air quality in the weight. all was so terrible that she developed asthma on that. and you can make that link with a policy how her a positive government, basically that people in one area and in another area and cover one area and gave like people that land that belong to those citizens that they get them to have areas. and even though we live in a close to point to south africa, that neglect is still carried out what has been rewarding and that you would consider, you know, big or small in achievement that you've been able to kind of get to with your,
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with so far i think wanted to win that make a big impact. my life is when someone will come to me personally and say thank you for teaching me this. i've learned and now i know better. and now i can do better. i think the biggest achievements are also just bringing up appreciate a lot of activists around the world that has that and his mind. so being able to stand up in front of college and speak your mind as well as the privilege of bigotry women. when you, once again year people listening, you hear the responding, you come on articles, theory, you're 17, and keep them into your 26. i'm wondering for both of you what you feel be defining values and elements of each of your respective generations. activism. ok,
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so firstly i belong to the 1st cohort of the born fees, you know, the generation that was born after democracy in south africa. and i think for a large, you know, to a large extent, our activism is really centered in crowded around, holding our democratic government accountable. right. hoping for a significant change in the living conditions of use and just a population more broadly. so we do or a lot from the anti party struggle in terms of the music, the songs of kind of the struggle songs that you thing. and also some of the organizing and mobilizing strategies. you know, we're really still focus in terms of mass space movement, bullying. and this is quite evident with the feasible full student poses across 26 institutions of higher learning, which saw university students demanding for free the colonized higher education. but of course, you know, the success of moments such a season before launch the attributed to digital and online activism and how that
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has also helped us in terms of shaping our own narrative. sarah, you know something about that, but you, would you like to add? yeah, kinsey, we grew up in the age of technology, the world of social media, and that came with a lot of benefits in terms of with mobilizing people internationally. and especially now during a pandemic. what social media is also brought is lots of inclusivity because you moving away from just that mainstream media narrative and you bracing a diverse range of narratives and you getting to include so much more within your activism. so i think the 270 that social media has brought has been a key and defining factor with kinzie. so after this most recent used to lead to mass movement towards fisma fall, which as you mentioned earlier, was the fight to you know, gain wide access for free. and d, colonized tissue education. what do you think it was about that movement?
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kids meant that that made it resonate so widely with our generation. i think a big part of fisma for be on issues of x is, was really holding government accountable to say, to what extent are you prepared to sacrifice an upcoming generation of young leaders and activists? purely on the basis of, you know, keeping or be deliberate about keeping it commodified a cup, a cap as a racist system continues to marginalize and exclude lex students specifically from institutions of higher learning. there are you about 12 or 13 when this was unfolding on the news media? what did it mean for you on a personal level to see young people really, you know, rise up on such a mass scale. it was really inspiring and was watching history unfold. read before my eyes, and while i didn't understand how the, how complex the issue was back,
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then i understood the surface level of it. but diving into activism, the fees must, will activist. so one of the most inspiring activists that i look up to give you permission to be angry as well. yes. 100 percent. and like i said before, that anger just ignited passion to stand up and fight me. do miss your, as you should say, you the found a, in fact of the black women's caucus, which among the many mandates you have, is looking into eradicating to the base violence. can you talk to me about the myriad of violence? is that for african women right now, facing? i mean, when we speak about in the base violence, of course, you know, the most needed understandings around sexual and physical forms of violence. you know, and this is, and this makes sense. i mean south africa as seen as a raise capital globally, not privy. take to have. and by the way, our fame aside rate is 5 times higher than the global average. right. and so,
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understanding around in the business and famous that has really been within the conceptual framework. however, as black women coke of we're saying that is to serve as well as to reduce gena base violence and famous to only physical and sexual forms of violence. you know, political violence, economic violence, environmental violence, social violence, all violence is that country peach, the vulnerability of women. and it's important that when we find solutions and we proposed solution that they must be multi pump and they must be classical so that they're able to address the sources of violence. so can you give me an example of what that work looks like or how you bring the solutions to the public? of course, a lot of the stats and research done in south africa around in the base islands has attributed to a women's economic participation as a message. dr. ability to join the base violence and famous that so in 2019, on the 13th of september, when we march to the ritual square,
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mile in africa and sent and demanding greater participation from private states in terms of, you know, their response to the violence were ultimately things you need to also be able to, you need to be held accountable for women's economic vulnerability. because largely when you think about drape and famous, i always think about it within the confinement of the whole. right. but the moment we made the business issue and economic issues were ultimately saying that the continuous subjugation and violation of women number one cuts the south african economy between 20 and 40000000 read annually. right. and that also means that part of our active part of our mobilize ation and advocacy requires us to make structural changes. it looks like you had something 100 was in it need systemic change. if you just bring change on one census, that's of his is widespread. and in order for structural change to take place and
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the most effective change the case, it needs to be systemic. it needs to be institutionalized. so only addressing every level of the problem. yes. 100 percent fair, you started climate warriors and you're a part of the collective movement. tell me what collective movement is and what would you do with the connector movement is a youth led into sectional climate group. and we aimed to achieve carmen justice through social justice and vice versa. so it's a group of young activists and recently i work has all been on social media and online because of the pen demik. so this year we working on climate change through penn, african context. so interviewing or having discussions with activists from uganda and kenya, and just broadening our perspective on the climate change and how the policy making takes place in different areas around the world and different challenges. and
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coming up with solutions and then also spreading awareness and advocating and pushing forward the climate just as chartered movement to educate as many people on the climate change issue and exposing the intersectionality needed and bringing about inclusive between within the time and justice movement. why do you think specifically in the south african context that climate justice has taken a backseat to other issues such as, you know, the ones that get committee and i was talking about. so i think in the past, obviously if you looking at their pre democratic south africa where people are fighting again, so politics, redeem and fighting for liberation. come a change, understandably so is going to take a backseat. when you fighting to be free in your own country. but if you're looking at a post appointed south africa when we living in a democracy, i think there's a huge sense of apathy from those impala that firstly,
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the people empower putting profit before the people we living in. we stuck in this capitalist mindset. another issue is the climate literacy rates in south africa, extremely low, and that comes down to an educational issue. so apathy and the lack of climate literacy course. what do you think of the intersection between climate justice and the kinds of justice that you know, your work drives really interesting. hey, i really like the fact that you know, preaching climate justice and social justice. and i think for large, you know, for a long time we've thought about climate just as a stand alone kind of struggle. you know, it's like sitting in the corner and nobody really wants to deal with it. but what has been very important and has been quite a big eye opener for me myself as a, as a feminist, is the work has been doing informal settlements. and how, when you spoke about literacy, environmental literacy. how, you know,
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we still struggling to make the connections at community they will between the environment and social justice plane example, one of the communities that the word came is called a parking formal system. it for water and sanitation breakdown in infrastructure and just listening to you, i can already see, you know, how climate justice fits into that, right? but i do believe that to a large extent, the climate justice movement has positioned itself as quite a white lead to movement, right. it has struggles to deal with the very concrete conditions that an ordinary person in south africa facing. but i think in a country like south africa, we need to be able to who's in crowd of ideology and our advocacy in the lived experiences of people on a day to day basis. so what do you say to this climate change for the longest time? it has seemed like a very, a privileged issue. if i am struggling to put food on my plate,
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why should i care about the quantity? why should i care about little on the beach? and i think that come down to the needful climate, conscious media and was kind of conscious media inclusivity. so looking at climate change across the world. and also understanding that solutions that may work in the west on going to work in africa for various reasons. we have different economies, different policies, different governments, different histories, it just would fit. and i think was very vital when looking at climate justice and time. a change is looking at it through an intersection. so instead of separating environmental factors and the social factors, bridging them together could common justice and social justice, intrinsic teen linked together to bring about positive change by testing one. that solution is going to affect the other in either positive or negative way depending
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on what the solution is. so if you're looking at time to change geographically, climate change is going to disproportionately affect poorer black communities. so within your activism, you need to take within climate activism, you need to take into account classism, racism, sexism, homophobia. for example, if the natural disaster were to strike those communities would be most vulnerable. and if you look at the way society treats those communities now imagine how much was it's going to be when aid due to natural disaster is needed and needs to be brought to those communities. so advocating for human rights, you can pick and choose no form of oppression exists in isolation. i wonder what you both think, you know the possibility of achieving your ideas and what a just world looks like. what do you think the implications of deliver them has on
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the word that you do? give me the what i'm picking up and said capitalism, inheritance lee, you know, glorifies the individual, its limitations. however, in activism that exorcism is not a one man show. right? and unfortunately, capitalism has created and it's continues to co opt civic action and civic and civic interventions and presents them as one man shows, right? when we have the model that comes out, you know, this, you know, the intended sensation that comes out and is going to save the world. you know, i think what that does is that breaks down organic movement building strategies, right? i don't think we have any strong tangible movements that are being, you know, that are being nurtured, but instead what we're seeing with the individual acts of as rising and listen, i'm not saying it's a bad thing to have the popstars of the movement image. they're important,
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they keep the movement fun and dynamic, but i do think it's important that you lose our activism in communities because these alternative realities every once you know, the empty capitalist reality that we want to simulate into sexual reality that we want is not going to be fostered by an individual, it needs an active, you know, it needs from a collective in order to drive that mandate. and i think this is some of the critiques of capitalism infiltrating cervical activist work, 100 percent. community community based change is the most sustainable and effective change in the long. and if you're looking at capitalism in a capitalistic world, the most ideal position you can be in right now is to be a white man. and that breaks down so much, it breaks down the feminist movement and breaks down any movement laid by women. capitalism breeds the system of inequality. it's always going to be if i'm winning
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someone else's losing, and like you said, it's a very individual, a glory, 5 individual work. and that is extremely problematic. it's also very problematic to have one face re present a home. and because it excludes people that don't match that face that don't match the demographic. so yeah, definitely not carbon capitalism is the main cause to a climate crisis. sorry. can i just add onto that? you know, i mean, i'm reflecting, reflecting such an important aspect of growing and as active as we should never stop reflecting. and when i think about, you know, the 2 parties movement. firstly, i know for a fact that many people who participated in those movements in the forms of resistance were not participating because they were individuals that they were idolizing. it's because they felt a strong sense of, you know, personhood. i mean, the issues affecting me directly. therefore,
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i need to actively participate in finding the solutions. and i think you know, the idea of the glorifying of the individual grubs as of it. and i think our communities of a v to hold is grounded to hold us accountable. and to make sure that we are working and living within the ideals of the, of, of, of the movements that we represent. well, i guess in closing, i'm curious if, if it's not clear so far what you both hope to achieve and if you feel optimistic about, you know, being able to actually achieve those things, keep them i will, perpetual optimist. firstly, as the scheme of so i definitely do think things will get better. i do think that you know, we need to intensify our demands and struggles, but also change our size of, of, of oppression and fighting. right. i think so many times you know what activism and
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how we traditionally be no activism to be said. busy we take to the streets, writes to get our messages across. and although that is important, we also need to see some radical advancement and transformation in the policy in covenant cl, right? and so as black woman caucus, you know, at the heart of the solutions that we propose as a social movement, is the realization and strengthening of feminist movements, which are going to foster feminist leadership. we need to see an emergence of new radical feminist leaders. really shaping the world to where we want to take. good. right. and i honestly believe that we've got the right energies. we've got the minds, we've got the heart and miss do it sooner. oh. 1 i, like i said earlier, have climate anxiety. and the only thing i can thing on to covenant ideas, optimism towards a future. it drives me to constantly wake up and make the decision that this is what i'd like to change. this is where, you know, that could be the change you want to see an advocate for the change that you'd like
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to see. so i think a main goal is to just get the same urgency that we're carrying today with sending that to the hearts of our government and our leadership to demand climate emergency and to attack all of these social issues that we've unpack today. because once again, social justice is climate justice and vice versa. so yeah, i think unification needs to do a case like today between the dick generations and just, you know, keep the energy, don't let it die. i feel going up with social media. you see activism turns into a trend and it reads a lot of performance of activism and every year and every month there's a new hash tag and something use trending and, and serve treating activism and social issues as a trade make it. keeping that advocacy along constant action that moves within your heart. sarah, good to answer. thank you so much for joining me on generation to. ah,
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