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hello again. i am fully battle with the headlines on al jazeera, the leaders of germany, france, and italy have arrived in ukraine's capital keith. it's a 1st time olaf shoals emanuel, michael and maria draggy have made a trip since the russian invasion. ukraine is top of the agenda on the final day of nato defense ministers meeting in brussels for us defense secretary lloyd austin, has expressed his support for sweden and finland application to join the alliance. as we sheet countries like her friend limited sweden record historic, her decision to apply for a middle meet membership. i that's very encouraging. we will combat you know, these are strong democracies who have, who have values that are, that are very much align with our values. and very capable countries, and so we hope that to that things will continue to move for general ford of or
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at 100000000. a biggest factor at the moment is russia's war in ukraine. the u. s. federal reserve has high interest raised by 3 quarters of a percentage point to try to curb inflation increases the largest since 1990. 4 of the fed says the current economic climate is extraordinary, challenging and unsafe. those are the headlines on al jazeera. i'll be back with more of the day's news after inside story to stay with us. ah, what assembly been doing with the money that it's more we bringing the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world we live in? argentina's honduras is debating a bill seeking to raise millions of dollars. the super rich poor families hit hard by counting the coast on al jazeera is indian govern rights group say attacks against muslims have increased since the b j. p to power.
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so what does growing religious intolerance mean for the future of india? this is inside, so ah hello and walk into the program. i'm hammer, jim john, left homeless for protesting against hate speech in india. that's what dozens of people whose houses have been demolished, say is happening to them. most are muslims. the said government were taught pradesh, maintains the houses were built illegally, but the demolitions took place. his emotions were running high across india. in the past week, people rallied in several cities protesting against offensive comments that 2 members of the governing b. j. p. made about the prophet mohammed, poverty, metal reports from saharan poor in northern india. oh mama that he cries in pain. he says his arm is broken
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as it leads from mercy. he was recently arrested for allegedly taking part in the protest. his mother says the accusations of false and authorities are threatening to demolish. ha families home me by be godaddy. no more than what they had gave. my sister in law visited him. she said his hands were swollen. he told her the swelling was even worse. a few days ago, he begged her to get him out. he was crying like a child. what i thought, but i want to try to my dog all hundreds of thousands of people across india recently protested against the push on more. she was suspended from the governing bgp for making islam before dick remarked. now the b g p, run government up there, could they state is cracking down on dissenters. authorities have demolished at least 4 homes belonging to muslims. they said the houses were built in legally part of the top floor of bosh at home. it's a horrible town has been destroyed. his mother says,
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authorities threatened the family as the arrested him. there's up the lady. remember that when the law we were terrified, i locked the door but they demanded, we openness. i went to the terrace and asked them why they had already arrested my son. i asked if they wanted to kill me. that's when they switched on the bulldozer . at least 300 people have been arrested nationwide. others have been booked for hate speech. many of them are hindus. local authorities say they receive names of dozens of protesters and will begin examining their homes for irregularities that's walking, filling this town that more demolitions could be carried out. gods have recently condemned similar demolitions, but authority said these are part of a larger and encroachment drive in the state. it is going on. and the people who are hard to serve any legalities in that house is all in the official promises. the list is already the delivery of holidays,
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the civic authorities keep on taking action against them. it is done as it will be measured and it has been done again. why not mean he was not the instigators of the oilers. the many people are protesting against his demolitions. they see the government is trying to intimidate dissenters and singling out muslims, homer than his mother is trying to free him. she says she has faith the law with side, with her family partner. and i'll just see that holland in northern india monitoring group say there's been an increase in attacks on muslims since hindu nationalist. a render mowdy became prime minister in 2014 india administered kashmir. the only muslim majority state had a constitutional autonomy revoked in 2019 rights organizations have documented mass graves, torture and extra judicial killings carried out by the indian armed forces. in 2020
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dozens of people were killed in protest against a new citizenship law. that fast tracks nationality for some minorities, but excludes muslims laws against slaughter incatel, anti conversion legislation and benz on head scarves have legitimize discrimination against religious minorities, especially muslims. prime minister moody has been criticized for his silence on hate speech, which often comes from within his own party. ah, now right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess in new delhi, bottom han is a journalist at the quint in coaching. donna, c. k raj is a lawyer at both the supreme court of india and the carol hi court. also in new delhi, i shook lie as a journalist and author a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story thought. well, let me start with you today. so demonstrators and different cities have been protesting against the demolition of homes owned by muslims. the local government says that the buildings have been constructed illegally, but rights groups say that this is part of an attempt to intimidate muslims. is
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there any legal justification for the demolishing of these homes owned by muslims? and so you have to look at this in context of what's been happening in the country for the last couple of months. forget it. but just in the last couple of months that has been a act on of this exact same thing happening. one of the other in b who is there is some violent sport between 2 community is all there is some sort of a small scale diet and or a class. and the very next day, or the d osgood, orbit of who's lim homes is, are demolished. and the justification given on the one hand and also says that this is irene. funny storm because of those sleeping violence in society and on the other. and they're also given legal justification saying the normal these i even house is, it is a bizarre coincidence, and it's not lost on anyone why these dimensions. i believe these days after the
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while ends on why those accused of st widens, are daily being punished in this space. i would like to leave it that none of these people have been convicted of any kind. they have not that very few have even if i filed against them, so purely on the basis of accusations levied by this, the police said how his are being dealt with is the whole, this of it, of it. and many of them, in fact, the whole there was demolished in allow by now one is they are that was a young activist for laughing man, her father, jolly woman, both of them and activist them gifts of the government. they have been sort of yes now. and so when this is, i didn't really say this all night. the, this to the agreed that i knew this was good on that house after again, pm and saturday night and sunday afternoon. the house was in will, is the one getting in even legally. there is thorns discrepancy because they weren't giving enough and even so on. and when the,
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something like this happens of most of the day, he doesn't even visit it. but you'll also sending out a message to all the mountains of north the country that if you pick up too loudly against the gun, only your house, the one place you're supposed to feel secure in the, of the demolish. and these to the now as is, let me get your perspective on this because you heard fatima there talk about some of these cases of, of well known activists who have had their houses demolish activists like momma java who she mentioned in her answer in. and you know, there are hindu nationalist, politicians who are known for their sectarian rhetoric against the countries. muslim minority. they have been calling on authorities to demolish the homes of people accused of crimes. does that not violate constitutional laws that ban collective punishment? she is, whereas i know there is a good spending riddle about high road. and that is that this bulldozers were being
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run on the active list. you call it dues. the police and bad musicians called them writers because i read back. busy in yogurt, dest is our military news, a really foreign and didn't go to what appeared to stoning at various places in various states. so. busy busy the fact is that the court is to go on it asked for the fact that these people had the wrong end of the stick and. busy administration of the states punish them. it is also a fact that these notices of illegal construction was given back in may at using the case of how much i'll be, who is in the center of everyone's attention. because his daughter, she was also involved in the protest in january the university pick up with a few years back. so there has been a history of them speaking on issues very the government has moved like
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citizenship amendment act and this present. so all said, all that being said, they do the fact that these activists have a history or disturbing law. busy in order at different places in the country, and it is also a history that these houses. but given this is a month back, it is not even though that notice was lost on me on my job is house on the 11th of june and demolish and begin the authorities to justification is that he hadn't been applying to cds on may's cds off. marcus's and the last, this is, did say that if you don't do it, it will be done on so that being the obedience just prejudice is the fact that they have gone to the end of the speak that just had we done. if you had a few of us, but those are muslims,
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the court would take it all in the would have been pretty. but because you remember in the the dissimilar demolish and i was on according to stop the government contracts for them. i see that you want to jump in. i just want to go to to see 1st to get a legal perspective on this policy. we have heard from, from many in india, from shows who have said that these demolitions are being done because of illegal construction. and we have heard from many activists who have said that these demolitions are being done because it is a crackdown on descent and activism. from your perspective, are these, when these homes are being demolished, is that actually legal? thank you for the question. i believe is the lowest concerns, no not meant a demolition without notice. secondly, laws do not permit an action, not taking revenge by the state in this manners, but pointedly in response to certain talk to which were made by the by the members
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of the muslim community. so these 2 aspect, i think of extremely important to note, we are indeed still a democracy and that is the right to peaceful practice. the guarantees under the constitution on the dogs leave the right to life. that is a space for descent in the country. you can criticize the government, you can disagree with the government. and every time you disagree with the government, the way the government is react to it. but just using its police power to antagonize you to provoke you and just go, what were those you know home then i would think that is becoming much less of a democracy than it ever was. and that does that, does the larger problem that we are facing on the long. it's in fact if completely active typical to the constitutional values because of the legislation which are in place, which is the right for your process. do you notice the right to hearing and,
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but i feel for the rights which are part and parcel of the principles of justice. now must have been completed in most of these cases, radius people whose house have been already demolished, do not know on what account has happened on the basis of which particular practice on the basis of which political participation on what they have this action being taken by the state so you can see that there is an absolute darkness as far as the allegations are concerned. and the cost that is imposed on the people who are as yet not convict, but only accused of that enough and is quite large potentially. they have been just rendered homeless in the country that in the country that is not doing so well on welfare, to begin with. and over night gender and being rendered homeless for actions whom you do not have any clue. what do you have exactly done is, is to try to be of the day. and i think that global leaders as well as somebody
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need to take note of what is happening, which is a team these katie and try to me putting, did muslim fall my, let me get back to you and i know you wanted to respond to what she was saying, so please go ahead, get a couple of things ready with the one. i mean, do you end up being younger? she's 19 years old. she's been living. that's nice. how? when was it was a give tom hood mcdonald grandfather to mother and she does me that for the last when be the family has been being ordered that says how that what that all is is in the mother's name. so one, it's the father of the kind of a, the mother who was the how to that is that is your, the group and you know what? one if it is the mother was the house. why she and the father has actually one. but 2nd beef is for the sake of argument, if it isn't any good how,
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why has established, why does it administer the next step? think all of the house that says all the bills for the state. why would this be never considered a month before in all these? doing the code ok for the sake of argument. let's see how it did get well in a line. so then you are saying that this house has been demoted, but the you just be good on your plan is that people don't put it up in the police . why and whether she give bite to the media, saying that, or you know, these people live in people and in that i to which one is it, is it that, that how does the one, is he good or is it because that i because the mean if you're bringing that and the minute you start seeing that or no, you know what these people give if you don't the wife and you are actively seeing that you, that this is rendered by the state against the doesn't, this is shape altitude. i, i'd like you to do, in fact, even is that i,
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when it goes ahead and want to, how does it in to bite that if it doesn't do this demolition of how this against its own to do an estimate to be who this is even what this is the state of being rental against its own, or the citizens will not be used in plastic. isn't actually just how you raising your hand or you want to jump in. go ahead. yeah, i don't want to jump in. i just want if you just want to make a few clarification, i mean why we are creating the charges against much. i'll be with eagle construction because being the 1st of all the house hasn't been demolished, the front of the house or part of it has been though it would be, dick would answer some pretty complete since it they could be do completely separate issue. there is an issue of the legal construction which has been pursued for over a month. and there is an activity which happened if you it is back for rich. more
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much of it was said to be the master might not. she says, i respect her opinion as you must have read it somewhere where she says that the one is sir actually sent that door. these people are. busy behind it, and that's why it's being done. the police had no who to blame. it will is only bent as a protection to the other to east the local authorities that have low the broad roger development authority he did was job is to see that encroachments and the legal concerns not destroyed. not began john. he can not linger, we can kind of elect the daughter and said that this has happened because of because these people were held responsible for a terrible royce during below storm warning and warriors which happened in viagra. ringback is number of adjustment were injured, she resumed, and her so. so i'm, that these are 2 separate issues, but in case we want to see, let the court decide whether it was done with the budget is, or there were 2 separate issues. but sure,
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as luck would have it happened early alonso fillasy. and this week there was a letter that was sent to the chief justice of indian supreme court. there are 6 prominent former judges, and there are 6 senior lawyers who are saying that the government in utah pradesh state had acted illegally by demolishing the house of a muslim activist following the protests. and when, as you 1st, how significant is it that this letter is, is being sent. and i also want to ask you, you know, in your opinion could, did you dish your in india have done more to, to stop these evictions. to stop the demolishing of these homes has the judiciary been passive when it comes to allowing anti muslim policies to keep going on? the very important question and i think we should 1st look at the context in which diesel actually operates in india. so it is important to know what that coats and india in particular the supreme court, if it next, really interventionists and an activist court. it does not. the french court does
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not death decisions to basically get as much as the courts do in the u. k. or in germany or media european countries. so the context in which we're talking about that we have a very active betty key, good judiciary. and what if you look at how did you decide to use reacting to something which i would describe upon the mental political try system, contemplating india? i would think that as a lawyer, i'm not quite optimistic about the course intervention code since 2014, especially the supreme court has been extremely deferential towards the federal government. it has me adopting several tactics not to hear the case against the government and not to make those remarks against the government in the theaters of cases. and that had been instances where that happened, that had been substantial rights violations. and the government was supposedly the culprit and the court of us to have
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a clear look at that. so this is the context in which we're talking about and 2014, in which we should assess whether we should, you know, we should keep some, some optimism. we should keep some holes in favor of the court, and i would think no, considering a see this are judgments which have come from the court in the past. yes. if you look at radius judgements, we will see that the court has been quite active in declaring aspects about civil liberties. for example, we have the judgement which said that adultery is no longer criminal offense. we have the judgement in the page which said that the penal promotion, which prohibited unnatural text as the god, it's constitutional. but they have come to concrete political issues. but the central government east, 5th anew, not necessarily the culprit. the courts have been quite hesitant to interfere,
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so i would not keep any cd up to them on the supreme court or on any of the courts in the political juncture. for them. i just want to take a step back for a moment and ask you of a broader question. that question is in, in your perspective, from your perspective, what does growing religious intolerance mean for the future of india? i mean indian de la la la de d o hesitated, descended into the absolute nation that most of the name is betty, on the economy. but at the same time, as john lifted adults with susan being in this is one of many issues of discrimination by the state. in a lot of cases, it is done by that if or maybe and what effective you mean? is that muslim the dog thinking it isn't and in effect,
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they feel like they don't belong on the country. that beach or the country that they do for you in the park to mean 947, they did not move on and and today, 75, you know, when things like that happened in the long old base, it would be the ben hill job waiting guys out there who the quality is. if i'm not the god of been thinking and the only place been men, i've had asked him that that would be the effect of the all of these things. little by little did they make you less and less in the state of the country, especially when i can all been in the last 5 years, who have country or thinking of leaving this country. because that's how difficult it has become to survive and also leave as dignified with it isn't. i will have a couple of minutes left. there have been protests that have been held in several
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cities against 2 former officials of the b, j. p. they had made remarks about the profit and how much many considered offensive prime minister mowdy has so far, not commented on the controversy over these remarks. why has he not said anything, especially at a time when there is so much criticism of the government stance? i get you, what is the difference, you know about noble sharma who was dismissed and said to be a fringe element by the v p. this letter wouldn't have been dropped at the bottom. this just. busy because is repetition in the middle east in the book is quite high on it has struck across the spectrum, right? and yet when you haven't gone along well already. so i say that when you say that there be other people who have made remarks against not getting the profit, i'm motivated. i've seen being not aware of it if you are seeing. so it must be
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because more the, at this juncture would not like to do a water. busy he has done in the last few years, whatever your schemes have been initiated and they have been many because of which does gone enormously in the years and they have not been they have discrimination very and those are what it and it's been it has been one particular issue has to be, i'm just going to have come to power and 15 power in the form of b, g, b in 2014. and this phase of hindu is definitely kind of trouble because it isn't a new thing. and i didn't years of minorities like people, i just read natural anxious, and then there's even none of that. i'm really that is that is intensified and when about small remarks in 1200000000 people is made. it is made up, the nation is against muslims at the down. it will still be
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a long way but there is an. busy attempt to say that india is listing in flames. i think it is what the because a lot, but also said about the fact that it getting to these sites. when you see this, you see the it's a lot of knitting a game on particular dia to particular alex, oh said the muzzle game done so storms and stopped winging, hurting people and gosh, and policemen, the modem. so that also is a concern for the neutral citizen because he's, he knows that the profits mock boss made by a b p function he was dismissed. osh has been initiative, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave the conversation there . thanks so much. all of our guests fatima, con to us he, raj, and osh ish shook la, and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our
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