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displaced for violence, persecution and rights abuses are some of the main causes. but can this rising trend to be reversed and if so, how this is inside stored? ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim, john, more people than ever before, are being forcibly displaced around the world. and according to the un refugee agency, either we deal with the causes conflict, climate change, and persecution, to name just a few. or we begin accepting a world in which millions are displaced everywhere. right? now that figure is more than 100000000. the warren ukraine is worsening. the situation displacing more than 12000000 people in less than 4 months. we're
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bringing our guests at a moment. first, this report from charles stratford and keith julia and ludmilla escaped the russian bombardment of mary auto on march 19th. over the next few days, they risked their lives 3 times. driving back into the city raving bullets shells, and s drunks in a desperate attempt to find the father of their family. 61 year old alexander phillip ankle. they fear he never made it out. i usually did it when we were driving. there were russians on one side ukrainians on the other, and they were shooting, says you really you that we were in the middle. it was terrifying those up, but we were determined to get dad. when you select, the family used to live near the as of steel plant were an estimated 2500 ukranian soldiers and civilians were trapped for weeks. as the fighting intensified, they fled to a basement under a block of flats in the city center. on the day they escaped,
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the shilling was intense, and alexander never made it from the basement to the waiting civilian car. we were sure he knew we would come back for him, says ludmilla. and he would wait for us in the basement allah! a few days later, they returned to where they had last seen, alexander and the mother. we saw all the buildings were burnt, and destroyed, says ludmilla. and there was no one there. ludmilla and julius story is not uncommon. the united nations estimates that roger's invasion has forced more than 12000000 people to flee their homes. the ukrainian government says thousands of them are searching for friends and loved ones, missing fear dead. and her chance of new cobra is a psychologist, volunteering at the center, helping some of the 10s of thousands of people from mary apple who fled to the ukrainian control side or chill or yoga to day. i had a lady whose husband was killed in front of her and she asked, why did i survive?
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she like so many is deeply disturbed, constantly breaking down and a fuse and a, cept. what has happened with families who come to this sense of receive food parcels once every 2 weeks, children play while their parents register, until their stories to volunteers. andre used to work at the as of style plants, as a liaison operator. he says he left many friends behind mother support anymore. so i think they are more sympathetic to the occupiers. yet. do they call me and ask when are you coming back? but i will never returned with russians in control. anastasio was a social worker in mary. oh pool, before the war, she struggles to hold back. her tears said i be upset from then we all lost friends . they're gone forever. in my case, it would have been death or captivity because i refuse to work under the occupiers . i don't know if i will ever see my city again. the ukrainian government accuses russia forcing tens of thousands of people from mary opal into russia and
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accusation. russia denies. eula and louis miller say their only hope is that all examined is still alive. cha, stratford al jazeera keith. every year of the past decade has seen a rising number of people, forced to flee their homes. this year is no different, a new high for displacement above 100000000 for the 1st time. the you in refugee agency says the scale and speed of this crisis is outpacing solutions. the biggest factor right now is the war and ukraine, which has triggered one of the largest mass displacements since the 2nd world war. but there is some good news, 5700000 people return to their countries of origin last year. the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in geneva. shabby a man to as a spokesperson for the united nations refugee agency in oxford. now those to go on a professor of international migration at the university of birmingham and director
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of the institute for research into super diversity and an inver. cargill, new zealand batteries with johnny is an author and former refugee a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story batteries. let me start with you today. when we talk about the displacement crisis in the world today, we must talk about something that's been in the news a lot, especially this week it's, it's very controversial plan in the u. k. there's this agreement between the british government and ra wanda, in which some refugees and asylum seekers would be center wanted to have their asylum claims process. there. now many who oppose this plan say that the plan mirrors australia's use of offshore detention centers. that was a plan that saw people being sent to detention centers on the pacific islands of now. ruined montrose. you yourself were held that an offshore detention center on matters highland for 6 years. so how concerned are you about the kind of precedent this u. k. ra wanda agreement could set thank you for having me.
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i think it's hard fake news on the for many years. wait a minute or so. no rush you know, straight up. where was that? what is happening in australia on what the government is doing? one way to be what all or other countries i remember, like 5 years ago, some politicians came from tarnish from denmark on. they'd be took novel when they, when they exact the, establish a safe system in denmark. but yeah. okay. be a larger version of australia and exactly the same. let me say that the former was trading prime minister. tony was
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exactly the same person to use this policy to british politicians. they are doing it. tony c. e 's. stablished on secrecy, on seth tank or so on based off colonialism and conduct. so what they are doing is exactly the same as what was done on. fortunately, i'm very negative about this ongoing to do with these. so nowadays, but i don't think that the courts or human rights to see which society you are successful was them to do the sponge is randy. i'm really worried about that because i went
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through and i know the system that's always core always knew mom are so how these policy pack on political conte shop actually undermine the support such as humanity, human rights on the market value. so of course i'm just following bethany was awfully, they don't do it, but i'm quite negative about it. i think we do it because this kind of policy allows the politicians to my new plate probably get power. so we already seen that being, australia. we know the outcome of how many people are keep on the system
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and how the system is cut off. shabby. you and i have spoken many times in the past about the numerous displacement crises in different parts of the world. but we are at a moment now where there are a 100000000 people worldwide that have been forced to flee their homes in the past year. that is the highest number of displaced people recorded since world war 2. and that is staggering. by any measure. i wonder if you could speak to our audience about the enormity of this number and what this means. andy, this is a very stark figure. it's very sobering and alarming in equal measure. i'm each year we've, we've seen and worldwide force displacement increase. and where we have same load, you know, these records just being and men and even touch your urine, you know, they're just really an exponentially increasing. now it's a very worrisome picture, but there's a direct link between us worldwide force displacement and conflicts and persecution,
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and humanitarian emergencies that continue to drive people from their homes. and so what we're seeing is a picture around the world of people having to flee in the face of conflict and, and security. so we're advocating both solutions, otherwise these numbers will continue. but more importantly than that, behind these numbers, these are human beings. each one of those is a human person with, with a life ahead of them. and it's really tough ordeal to be living in a state of displacement. so we are calling for solutions to resolve those situations. that was people to flee and to prevent them from becoming displaced in the 1st place and, and just one last thing to have when we look at this statistics, it's also worth bearing in mind that the majority of these people and we've reached out $100000000.00 in fact this year, but we've just released a report to day of the global trends report, which looks at worldwide boss displacement of the previous year. and last year, at the end of 2021, we had about 89300000 people worldwide that were forcibly displaced. now 83 percent
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of those are being hosted in low to middle income countries around the world. so we're also seeing a great in equity in terms of responsibility sharing, so the world's or possibly just most people remember your heard shabbier speak there about the link between a forcible displacements force displacement and, and conflict. and, and you and hcr is saying that the trend and the rising numbers of those being displaced can only be reversed by a new concerted push towards peacemaker. but given the state of the world today and given how many conflicts there are in the world right now, does it seem likely to you that we will see that push that we would see that concerted effort by the international community? i don't think so. i mean, at the moment all we see is that is a sustained attack on refugee protection. internationally. you know, you mentioned the beginning of the one, the plan of the british government. one of the reason why the plan is really concerning is that if in the past it can become
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a template for other countries. and what it does is basically saying that the reach western countries can simply of sure their responsibility to be sub record. this is not just what we saw in the past. it was for somebody showing decimal claim. so some claim were assessed outside the country, but then people were transferred towards western destination. in this case, the novelty of it is that basically the case frustrating asylum seekers for been assessed by a firm country and even in case they are successful, they stayed there. they've no right to to move the u. k. so we will, we see it's, i think, is sustain attack on the, on the system that was billed with the geneva convention 70 years ago. bearers, you know, in the past few months, there's been a lot of sympathy that's been shown to ukrainian refugees. and of course, that's a good thing. all refugees should be given the safe harbor. but the fact that there are so many refugee crises going on around the world and the fact that there are so many refugees in various parts of the world who don't get nearly the same amount of
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help and aid and attention. how does that make you feel, and how does that make the refugees that you're speaking to regularly feel? i think you know, the, i touch with many refugees in new york, this 14000 refugees already being almost a decade. i was enough for us to do leaving, so i touch with someone just around the war and i thing that of course dogs, some countries of a one come from crime that is great. so we should appreciate that. but unfortunately, there is a discrimination that you know, according to national law, you can, you are not allowed to do that. so the futures are refugees. so it doesn't matter
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where they come from. doesn't matter even what date of scale, what is the background? that's why, you know, the structure is not tosh we, they always on warranty and they sometimes get angry about him. even in germany, wait here for 2 months ago that they kicked out the day that i commendation to frustrated from crime and longing you. okay. we see that they treat refugees from crime. now they are vanishing. refugees wrong, but that is something around that. of course i don't know that we said it's by see them or not,
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but obviously discrimination that is not actually cable according to the law. so we should ask this question, that's why we have trustee, which is why we let them stay, why we, you know, process led them to something you like because of principles because we believe we think that we should believing what i'll let you know mind. so when we understand it this way, i really don't understand why they clicks up in front and that does not accept the table that make refugees in mind about dog and tongue who hopping the way to school set on the concrete is off. obviously,
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you're not actually cable shabby. i want to talk a little bit about some remarks that were made by your boss and the un high commissioner for refugees. filippo grandy, he had said that the european union's response to the ukrainian refugee crisis has been unequal. and that he would like all refugees to be afforded the kind of generosity that ukrainian refugees have been granted. but that's not really what we're seeing, is it? i mean, there are many refugees and refugee crises, and other parts of the world that are being largely ignored. right? well, i think the, the clever picture is a mix. one, i think most they, we have to, we have to recognize of is they be the response to the ukraine. refugee crisis it, it was, we saw a tremendous outpouring of solidarity a trend, tremendous outpouring of support. and so we do commend the quick steps and the, and the commitments that were made to respond to that crisis. it shows that when you have that result and when you have the political will, it is possible to respond to situations of mass displacement. and i think that's
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the message, but like to see for all of a crisis, they're also deserving of, of the same attention and support. and you have many of those around the world. and many, many of those are also neglected, forgotten, so we don't it. and we're asking for an extension of that compassion. and that's all that archie, but as for her, as mentioned in the right to seek asylum, it's a fundamental human right. and it's a legal obligation, so it's really important that refugees and no matter where they come from, that they're able to access that safety and protection and, and receive their, their rights and entitlements that they, that they deserve. but we also have to look at the global picture. if we do look at the response to many refugee crisis around the world, it is predominately the neighboring or the regional countries that do stuff up there. often at the front lines that the 1st responders that you might say in terms of dealing with them. and if we look at the statistics, for instance, or the report that we issued out yesterday at the end of last year, we had a, you know, the largest hurst country. could you hearst countries where countries like turkey,
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columbia, uganda, pakistan, and so on. and these are countries that are a neighboring knows where we do have a humanitarian situations, and we do see those outflows. so we also recognized the tremendous solidarity that has been displayed by those countries. and it's not unique in the case of the current situation. but angela, i just want a quick follow up question for you. are there? are there glimmers of hope right now? are there examples of, of countries in communities that are working together to find solutions to help the displaced indeed they are. i mean, if we look at the responses, some of these neighboring roughly, she has countries, they've kept that boat as i've been, even during the height of the pandemic. they were receiving refugees. i mean, this is precisely why the refugee and global displacement pick a has gone up every year. it's because those countries that a neighboring these crisis, they have received, there's refugees and displaced people. so we must also recognize that. and you've got countries like columbia in ecuador, grunting and in temporary protection directives or status as wish enable people who
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are displaced on their territory to benefit from, from their rights and residency and services on. but you have remarkable many, many examples of solidarity and compassion. exemplified by many countries that are hosting refugees, and it's also important to remember that it, despite the, the grim outlook, intensive displacement. we saw about 5700000 displays people returning to their, their harms, of a countries of origin as well in 2021. and that is also quite remarkable that they were able to retain her voluntarily. and though i saw you nodding to somewhat shabby, i was saying, so i'm gonna give you an opportunity to jump in. but i also want to ask you, i'm from your perspective, how disproportionately are women and children being impacted by the rising number of conflicts around the world this past decade. these are already vulnerable populations. how much more vulnerable have they become when it comes to forcible displacement? in terms of the ukranian response compared to other some in as he was just mentioned, traditionally the crisis are dealt in the regions and this is,
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has been one something that we have seen over the last the case. if you want to compare the response to green, you can, for example, look at the response to the warning you was lot of the solution are you cause like where, where mostly you member states that a provided support for the refugees from the civil war in yugoslavia so if it's true that not all references have treated the same, that's for sure. but it's also true that very often is the neighboring countries that, that one that take the bulk of the responsibility. and this is what we're seeing now in terms of the response to euclidean crisis, where seat we are single. so this general response partly because european union as learned from the experience of the refugee crisis. so 251516, a devil. and that by closing the board that they will only create tensions. they will create instability in members in the day that will happen when dina, with the board, that is all for under
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a. so the construction of the walls and other so in many ways allow the flow of people out or seen able to release some of the tension that is normally produced in this additional crisis. the main issue that we need to consider here is there is a huge pressure on local communities at moment. you know, they are receiving the hundreds of thousands of people. in some cases. for a long this is to cinema is one of the issues. what is going to happen at the end of the temporary protection is and other issues that we will need to pay attention to in terms of the vulnerable groups that are groups that been m as we've seen, also with ukrainian crisis, that very often, especially in the 1st part of the conflict, this was bessie was but mostly women and children. elder people that crossed to outside ukraine. we've seen that sometimes very often. the experiences of violence, of in this process is in crossing the border sometimes also as a search show, show us that in the way that this modeling services operate. they often women are
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particularly vulnerable to sexual agenda balance. for example, the research we cut out the university of birmingham as sure beverly, we only have a couple of minutes left. i want to give you the last word here. i've heard you speak in the past very, very powerfully about the kind of trauma that refugees and the displace deal with, especially when it comes to those who have escaped violence. they've made it to a new country, but then they just have to wait. have to wait to find out if they can get asylum or when they'll be able to set up a new life. could you, could you tell our audience a little bit about that kind of trauma? i think, you know, i already wrote about these are some articles that are particularly australia or they can or channel refugees to kind, you know, just keeping refugees in meaningful so
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just keep refugees waiting for many to get my sub tell mom in that conference that we use for child because it's leaving in limbo, leaving situation like on decide the situation is really packed on refugees and they cannot maintain the future. they cannot really think about the future or sunday may you know, a few days left. the constraints of course they, for example, with families and they want to support what they come up. you know, this, keeping people just wait 20 create problem is refugees in torture. but some refugees are many refugees. actually.
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they less the countries because of persecution because of discrimination. you know, when they come to west a, you know, they go through a difficult process again, of course that, you know, they have to indoor kind of trauma. again, for example, with roman, especially some of them a big conference because 6 strong wireless spot, they find them something or enough places like that. they get right. you know, on the 6th floor i saw. so i mean, that is really difficult to describe it, but keeping refugees in the situation and then on the side, the situation for many years of course, damage refugees,
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a men poorly. i don't know when they get done. oh, they want to, oh, you know, get to way or dad or to start from your life. all right, well, we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests shall be a man to nando sedona and bathrooms, which are me and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter or handle as an e. j inside story from emergent drama, the whole team here and your health. i, for now investigative journalism, my role in this, i tried the in information battled global experts in discussion. the pandemic
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