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prices up today says that if elected, he would focus on improving health services and work to help people who struggle financially so far. the left and centrists on neck and neck in terms of felt nationally. but it's estimated that macros alliance will win most seats. the numbers may be hard to predict, but those here hope the times are changing. oh, sure. butler al jazeera, the most france a thailand bids removing its pre registration process for foreign visitors next month. as the eases it's covered 19 restrictions. it's that tourism industry has long complained that the amount of documents required from visitors has been hurting the sectors recovery. thailand will also no longer require masks to be worn in public. a little nudge in the direction of our website, delta 0 dot com is the address, plenty of comment and analysis and all the stories were covered, right? ah,
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so this is ours is, are, are, these are the top stories in the e. u commission is recommending ukraine. mold dover as candidates for your opinion, union membership. the 1st step in a long process. it's on the condition that ukraine carries out a number of reforms. so mccain is in berlin and explains the process for e u membership. the devil is in detail as candidates, now the ukrainians must comply with several different criteria. but the most important one saw they have to prove that they have a stable democracy. they have to prove that they have a functioning market economy. they have to prove that the rule of law pertains throughout the country, and they have to sign up to accepting all parts of e you legislation. and that includes joining the e u at some point, joining the euro. rather, when they joined the you, if they joined the you and one huge caveat here is that this is
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a particularly lengthy period. a 3rd that protests across several states in india against change to military recruitment policies. new recruits will be limited to 4 years on the job without pension. this is angered. those who are hoping to join al jazeera has exclusively obtained an image of the bullet that killed a colleague, st. actually last month. experts say it's used in an em for rifle, which is widely used by the israeli military. china's lowest new, high tech aircraft carrier called the fujen. this is, it's the carrier, but the 1st to be both designed and built inside china is called for june and features a bay. jing is overhauling its entire navy policy and officials say at least 3 men been killed by israeli forces during a raid in the west bank town of genie. at least 8 others were injured during the
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operation. crowds of mourners carried the bodies through the city that had been daily raised in the occupied westbank since a string of attacks. earlier this year, the killed 1900 people. in israel. the government is approved. the extradition of wiki leaks found julianna's songs to the u. s, if a spine charges us is pursuing a song for his role in releasing hundreds of thousands of classified military documents. alright, we're up to date with headlines. we have more news coming up here on al jazeera right after inside story. and when a hands on chair, last lacking an asian africa, there'd be days where i'd be choosing and editing my iron stories in a refugee camp with no electricity. and right now where confronting some of the greatest challenges that humanity is ever faced. and i really believe that the only way we can do that is with compassion and generosity and compromise. because that's the only way we can try to solve any of these problems is together. that's why they are so important. we make those connections.
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100000000 people around the world are now displaced for violence, persecution and rights abuses are some of the main causes. but can this rising trend to be reversed and if so, how this is inside stored? ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered. jim john, more people than ever before, are being forcibly displaced around the world. and according to the un refugee agency, either we deal with the causes conflict, climate change, and persecution, to name just a few. or we begin accepting a world in which millions are displaced everywhere. right? now that figure is more than 100000000. the warren ukraine is worsening. the
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situation displacing more than 12000000 people in less than 4 months. we're bringing our guests at a moment. first, this report from charles stratford and keith julia and ludmilla escaped the russian bombardment of mary awful. on march the 19th, over the next few days, they risked their lives 3 times. driving back into the city breathing, bullets, shells, and airstrikes in a desperate attempt to find the father of their family. 61 year old alexander phillip ankle. they fear, he never made it out for you. so it is when we were driving. there were russians on one side ukrainians on the other, and they were shooting, says eula, only we were in the middle. it was terrifying, but we were determined to get dad. when you the family used to live. nearly as of steel plumbed were an estimated 2500 ukrainian soldiers and civilians were trapped for weeks. as the fighting intensified, they fled to a basement under
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a block of plants in the city center. on the day they escaped, the shilling was intense, and all exam never made it from the basement to the waiting civilian car. we were sure he knew we would come back for him, says mila. and he would wait for us in the basement. a few days later they returned to where they had last seen. all examined the mother. you saw all the buildings were burns and destroyed with milla and there was no one there. ludmilla, nearly a story is not uncommon. the united nations estimates that rushes invasion has forced more than 12000000 people to flee their homes. the ukrainian government says thousands of them a searching for friends and loved ones missing fell dead. am a chancellor? nicole varies, a psychologist, volunteering at a sense, a helping some of the 10s of thousands of people from mary people who fled to the ukrainian control side of you. today. i had
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a lady whose husband was killed in front of her and she asked me, why did i survive? because she like so many is deeply disturbed. constantly breaking down and refusing to accept what has happened with families who come to this sense receive food parcels once every 2 weeks. children play while their parents register until their stories to volunteers. andre used to work at the as of style plants, as a liaison operator, he says he left many friends behind mother support anymore. i think they are more sympathetic to the occupiers yet, that do they call me and ask when are you coming back? but i will never return with russians in control. anastasio was a social worker in mary o pal before the war. she struggles to hold back. her tears said, i be upset, wholly, shall we all lost friends. they're gone forever. in my case, it would have been death or captivity because i refused to work under the occupiers . i don't know if i will ever see my city again. ukrainian government accuses russia
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a forcing tens of thousands of people from murray opal into russia and accusation. russia denies eula and lute miller say, their only hope is that all examiner is still alive. chaw, stratford. al jazeera keith. every year of the past decade has seen a rising number of people, forced to flee their homes. this year is no different. a new high for displacement above 100000000 for the 1st time. the u and refugee agency says the scale and speed of this crisis is out pacing solutions. the biggest factor right now is the war and ukraine, which has triggered one of the largest mass displacements since the 2nd world war. but there is some good news. 5.7000000 people returned to their countries of origin last year. ah. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in geneva. shabby, i'm unto as a spokesperson for the united nations refugee agency in oxford. nando said gonna
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professor of international migration at the university of birmingham and director of the institute for research into super diversity. and in, in re cargill, new zealand batteries, with tani is an author and former refugee a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story batteries. let me start with you today. when we talk about the displacement crisis in the world today, we must talk about something that's been in the news a lot, especially this week it's, it's very controversial plan in the u. k. there's this agreement between the british government and ra wanda, in which some refugees and asylum seekers would be center a want to have their asylum claims process. there. now many who oppose this plan say that the plan mirrors australia's use of offshore detention centers. that was a plan that saw people being sent to detention centers on the pacific islands of now. ruined montrose. you yourself were held that an offshore detention center on matters highland for 6 years. so how concerned are you about the kind of precedent this u. k. ra wanda agreement could set thank you for having me.
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i think it's hard to fake news on the for many years. wait a minute or so. the advocates rush, the germans strategy up. where was that? what is happening in australia on what the government is doing? one way to be one or other countries. i remember like 5 years ago, some politicians came from tarnish from denmark on. they'd be took novel when they, when they exactly established st. system and then lock. but in your katie be a large version of australia and exactly the same.
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let me say that the former was trading prime minister. tony was exactly the same person intruding this policy to british politicians. they are doing it's connie c. e 's stablished on secrecy, on seth tank or so on based off colonialism and conduct. so what they are doing is exactly the same as what was done on. fortunately, i'm very negative about this ongoing to do with these. so nowadays, but i don't think that the courts or human rights defendants or feverish to thank you. okay. are successful towards comp them to do this, but really,
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i'm really worried about that because i'm once i know the solar system that's always cool. always new mom or so how these policy pack on political conte shop actually undermine the support such as to mommy human rights to locate the value. so of course i'm just following that me was a funny, they don't do it, but i'm quite negative about it. they went to it because this kind of policy allows the politicians to manipulate public and get power. so we already seen that being said, we know the outcome of how many people are keep on the system
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called the system is caught up shabby. you and i have spoken many times in the past about the numerous displacement crises in different parts of the world. but we are at a moment now where there are a 100000000 people worldwide that have been forced to flee their homes in the past year. that is the highest number of displaced people recorded since world war 2. and that is staggering. by any measure. i wonder if you could speak to our audience about the enormity of this number and what this means. andy, this is a very stark figure. it's very sobering and alarming in equal measure. i'm each year we've, we've seen worldwide force displacement increase and where we have same mo, you know, these records just being met and even topped year year and year. they're just really an exponentially increasing. now is a very worrisome picture, but there's a direct link between a worldwide force displacement and conflicts and persecution,
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and humanitarian emergencies that continue to drive people from their homes. and so what we're seeing is a picture around the world of people having to flee in the face of conflict and, and security. so we're advocating both solutions, otherwise these numbers will continue. but more importantly than that, behind these numbers, these are human beings. each one of those is a human person with, with a life ahead of them. and it's a really tough deal to be living in a state of displacement. so we are calling for solutions to resolve those situations at most people, to flee, and to prevent them from becoming displaced in the 1st place. and just one last thing to add when we look at this statistics, it's also worth bearing in mind that the majority of these people and we've reached out 100000000 in fact this year. but we've just released a report to day of the global trends report, which looks at wildlife balls displacement of the previous year. and last year, at the end of 2021, we had about 89300000 people worldwide that were forcibly displaced. now,
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83 percent of those are being hosted in low to middle income countries around the world. so we're also seeing a great in equity intensive responsibility sharing. so the worlds are possibly displaced people. and under your heard, shabbier speak there about the link between a forcible displacements force displacement and, and conflict. and, and you and hcr is saying that the trend and the rising numbers of those being displaced can only be reversed by a new concerted push towards peacemaking. but given the state of the world today and given how many conflicts there are in the world right now, does it seem likely to you that we will see that push that we would see that concerted effort by the international community? i don't think so. i mean, at the moment all we see is that is a sustained attack on refugee protection. internationally. you know, you mentioned the beginning of the one, the plan of the british government. one of the reason why the plan is really
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concerning is that if in the past it can become a template for other countries. and what it does is basically saying that the reach western countries can simply of sure their responsibilities of the record. this is not just what we saw in the past that was for somebody showing decimal claim. so some claim were assessed outside the country, but then people were transferred towards western destination. in this case, the novelty of it is that basically the case frustrating asylum seekers for been assessed by a firm country and even in case they are successful, they stayed there. they've no right to to move. do you ok? so we will, we see is i think, is sustained the attack on the, on the system that was billed with the geneva convention 70 years ago. bearers, you know, in the past few months, there's been a lot of sympathy that's been shown to ukrainian refugees. and of course, that's a good thing. all refugees should be given the safe harbor, but the fact that there are so many refugee crises going on around the world and
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the fact that there are so many refugees in various parts of the world who don't get nearly the same amount of help and aid and attention, how does that make you feel, and how does that make the refugees that you're speaking to regularly feel? i think you know, the, i touch with many refugees in new york. this 14000 refugees are being wait for almost a decade on the i was enough for us to do leaving. so i touch with someone just around the war. and i think that is of course dogs, some countries of a one come from crime that is great. so we should appreciate that. but unfortunately that is discrimination. you know, the, you know, according to national law, you can,
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you are not allowed to do that. so the futures are refugees, so it doesn't matter when they come from doesn't matter even what he's data scale, what is the background? that's why, you know, this kid is not tosh. we always on warranty. they sometimes get angry about it. even in germany, wait here for 2 months ago that they kicked out the futures accommodation to reduce from crime and longing you. okay. we see that they treat refugees from crime. now they are vanishing. refugees wrong, but that is something around that. of course,
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i don't know that we said it's by see them or not, but obviously discrimination. that's not actually cable according to the law. so we should ask this question. that's why we have procedures why we let them stay, why we, you know, process led them to something you like because of principles because we believe we think we should believing what i'll let you know mind. so when we understand it this way, i really don't understand why they clicks up in front and that does not accept the table that make refugees in mind about all dog hours and tons of school hopping. the way to school
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cell phone in the country is off. obviously, you're not able, shabby, i want to talk a little bit about some remarks that were made by your boss and the you in high commissioner for refugees. filippo grandy, he had said that the european union's response to the ukrainian refugee crisis has been unequal. and that he would like all refugees to be afforded the kind of generosity that ukrainian refugees have been granted. but that's not really what we're seeing, is it? i mean, there are many refugees and refugee crises, and other parts of the world that are being largely ignored. right? well, i think the, the clever picture is a mix. one, i think most they, we have to, we have to recognize of this, they be the response to the crane refugee crisis. it, it was, we saw a tremendous outpouring of solidarity, a trend, tremendous outpouring of support. and so we do commend the quick steps and the, and the commitments that were made to respond to that crisis. it shows that when you have that result and when you have the political will,
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it is possible to respond to situations of mass displacement. and i think that's the message, but like to see for all of a crisis, they're also deserving of, of the same attention and support. and you have many of those around the world. and many, many of those are also neglected, forgotten, so we don't it. and we're asking for an extension of that compassion. and that's all that archie, but asthma has mentioned, you know, the right to seek asylum, it's a fundamental human right. and it's a legal obligation. so it's really important that refugees and no matter where they come from, that they're able to access that safety and protection and receive their, their rights and entitlements that they, that they deserve. but we also have to look at the global picture. if we do look at the response to many refugee crises around the world, it is predominately the neighboring or the regional countries that do stuff up there. often at the front lines that the 1st responders that you might say in terms of dealing with them. and if we look at the statistics, for instance, for the report that we issued out yesterday at the end of last year, we had a,
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you know, the largest hurst country. could you hearst countries where countries like turkey, columbia, uganda, pakistan, and so on. and these are countries that are a neighboring knows where we do have a humanitarian situations, and we do see those outflows. so we also recognized the tremendous solidarity that has been displayed by those countries. and it's not unique in the case of the current situation. but angela, just want a quick follow up question for you. are there? are there glimmers of hope right now? are there examples of, of countries in communities that are working together to find solutions to help the displaced indeed they are. i mean, we look at the response of some of these neighboring refugee home countries. they've kept their boat as i've been, even during the height of the pandemic. they were receiving refugees. i mean, this is precisely why the wreckage and global displacement pick a has gone up every year. it's because those countries that a neighboring these crisis, they have received, there's refugees and displaced people. so we must also recognize that. and you've got countries like columbia in ecuador,
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grunting and intemperate protection directives or status as wish enable of people who are displaced on that territory to benefit from, from their rights and residency and services. and, but you have remarkable many, many examples of solidarity and compassion. exemplified by many countries that are hosting refugees, and it's also important to remember that it, despite the, the grim outlook, intensive displacement. we saw about 5700000 displays people returning to their, their harms, of a countries of origin as well in 2021. and that is also quite remarkable that they were able to retain her voluntarily. and, oh, i saw you nodding to somewhat shabby. i was saying, i'm gonna give you an opportunity to jump in, but i also want to ask you from your perspective, how disproportionately are women and children being impacted by the rising number of conflicts around the world this past decade. these are already vulnerable populations. how much more vulnerable have they become when it comes to forcible displacement? in terms of the ukranian response compared to other some in as he was just
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mentioned. traditionally, the crisis are dealt in the regions and this is, has been one something that we have seen over the last the case. if you want to compare the response to green, you can, for example, look at the response to the warning was a lot of the dissolution of you because like where, where mostly you member states that a provided support for the refugees from the civil war in yugoslavia so if it's true that not all references have treated the same, that's for sure. but it's also true that very often is the neighboring countries that, that one that take the bulk of the responsibility. and this is what we're seeing now in terms of the response to euclidean crisis boy a seat, we are single. so this general response partly because european union as learn from the experience of the refugee crisis. so 251516, a devil. and that by closing the board that they will only create tensions. they will create instability in members in the day that will happen when dina,
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with the board, that is all for under a. so the construction of the walls and other so in many ways allow the flow of people out all sin able to release some of the tension that is normally produced in this additional crisis. the main issue that we need to consider here is there is a huge pressure on local communities at moment. you know, they are receiving the hundreds of thousands of people. in some cases. for a long this is to cinema is one of the issues. what is going to happen at the end of the temporary protection is and other issues that we will need to pay attention to in terms of the vulnerable groups that are groups that been m as we've seen, also with ukrainian crisis, that very often, especially in the 1st part of the conflict, this was bessie was but mostly women and children l. the people that crossed to outside ukraine. we've seen that sometimes very often or experiences of violence of station in the, in this process is in crossing the border sometimes also as
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a search show, show us that in the, in the way that the modeling services stop it aid they often women of people are born are about to sexual agenda about violence for some sort of search because out the university of birmingham sho, beverage. we only have a couple of minutes left. i want to give you the last word here. i've heard you speak in the past very, very powerfully about the kind of trauma that refugees and displaced deal with, especially when it comes to those who have escaped violence. they've made it to a new country, but then they just have to wait. have to wait to find out if they can get asylum or when they'll be able to set up a new life. could you, could you tell our audience a little bit about that kind of trauma? you know, i already wrote about these some article, particularly australia. oh, they mean a portion of that you would use that all kind, you know, just keeping refugees in meaningful so
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just keep refugees, wait. or many school gets sub told mom in the country that really huge. fortunate because it's leaving mean bo leaving situation like on this side, the situation is really packed on refugees and they cannot a maintenance future. they cannot really think about the future or some baby lose many, you know, a few years left. they can trace, of course they, for example, now we've gone up, they have families, and they want to support one big cannot. you know, that this kicking people are just wait 20 create problems in refugees or but some refugees or
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many refugees actually they left the countries because of persecution because of discrimination. you know, when they come to wes, you know, they go through a difficult process again, of course that, you know, they have to indoor a kind of trauma. again, it's, for example, with roman, especially some of them a big conference because 6 strong wireless spot. they find them something or in places like that. they get right on the 6th floor i saw. so, i mean, that is a really difficult to describe it, but keeping refugees situation. and then on the side,
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the situation for many years, of course, damage refugees, a man pulling on. i don't know when they get from don't call they want to get away off or to start a new line. all right, well we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much. all of our guests shall be amman to nando see going to and bathroom, which honey and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at the g inside story from him. how much german a whole team here and how bye for now, the frank assessments you've got colleagues on the ground in the canaries. what is the
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