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ah, in an attempt to protect the natural environment, the deputies government has decided to move everest base camp to a new location. and that's roughly 200 to 400 meters low, where there is no year round dice. certainly this is the right time to ever kids and raised the boys together and then one little or is the boys we need to sort you out. so yeah, of course has been very congested and that every year but definitely more than 1500 people. so the human waste has been polluted around 4000 liters of urine is dumped at base camp every day. and because climate spend weeks on the peak adjusting to the altitude, they generate several kilos of waste, most of which is left on the mountain from fuel use for cooking. and he think to empty oxygen cylinders and abandon camping equipment. all this has created a moral and an environmental debate on the human obsession to scale the tallest
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mountain in the world. thought a height of, i'll zara. ah, just a quick look at the main soil of following the sour and left. his gustavo petro has been elected as columbia's next president's. he is a former gorilla fight with the m 19 group, but he has won over 50 percent of the vote in sundays run off defeating construction magnate rental fernandez. in the last few minutes, petrow has loaded his popular victory on twitter and which effectively makes him commies, 1st leftist leader. in its modern history, he has pledged an ambitious pension, some ambitious pension policy. he wants to invest much more in education and health care. though his victory will not be welcomed by investors.
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exit polls suggest at present of annual mat corners fallen short of an outright majority in parliamentary elections. after a strong performance by rival posses, a prime minister elizabeth born said work would now begin to find support from smaller parties to secure a working majority. final result could also see microns health and environment ministers losing their seats. natasha butler has more. well, what we're seeing is, are these projected results or anything to go by is a lot more of fragmented parliament to hedge. president mackerel has the biggest party in the parliament, his centrist alliance, but he doesn't have a majority. so what he's going to have to do, of course, is look around and see what alliances he can build. yes, big gains, a for the new left wing alliance of greens, the socialist communist and the far left they were projected to do well in this election they would be pleased, although of course, they didn't themselves again, a majority and big gains or so for the fall right,
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and the conservatives bangladesh in northern india suffering their worst flooding in more than a century. as monsoon range, sweep the region policeman and soldiers have been sent to low lying areas to help with search and rescue efforts. so far more than a 100000 people have been evacuated from their homes in bangladesh. those that lines this, our generation change is a program coming up next day without as era. ah, what somebody been doing with the money that it's born, we bring you the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world. we live in argentina on britain's debating and bill seeking to raise millions of dollars from the super rich poor families hit hard by counting the cost on al jazeera
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friends in the country with a long history of activism for women's rights organizations started to suffer death to anti fascist leven people have successfully for the new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle for social justice is far from over in the thick biggest economy in the world. the gap between rich and poor is start and increasing. welcome to generation change a global series, the attempt to understand and challenge the idea that mobilizing around the world. my name is amanda ronnie and i'm the journalist base here in london. in this episode, we need to young activists who was happening the root cause is violent from unjust legal and education systems to poverty, policing and racial inequality. lou
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in 2010, a conservative leg government came into power and implemented a policy of austerity over the next decade. billions of pounds will cut in public spending in london use violence and knife. crime has increased at in a catch blames austerity. sh. right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right. a lot of people know this area of being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in working in the community. why is that? i think it is, if you look at that immense, well, the power that big companies,
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but we don't equally share the fruits of what's happening. and i think particularly as a young person, you see all the issues around youth violence. and you decide, if it's not mean he's going to be involved, then you will be teaching . so when you were 15 years old, he decided to join the youth parliament of great britain. and you gave a really impassioned speech about violence and use some of the words winston churchill, please, former conservative leda against the conservative policies. as my time teams more lives within our country, never has so much been lost by so many because of the indecision of so few what we think we need to fight to do that. it's about the idea that you can use
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people's words against it. the conservative party have the set of ideals about the way they want to run with it, but they don't for a few with particular kind of rhetoric about living up the country is not matched up by any kind of real investment is all taping over the crux of a decade or austerity, which the entire communities under the bus or what does a fair and. busy equal more just country look like i think is about fundamental investing in communities. right now we have a system in which communities essentially left brain propose that they face a low. but we have to think about building a society in which everyone can have a fair start in life, in which we're all given that an equal opportunity if there were some people that said, okay, that's idealistic, you'll young either understand the way the world works. what would you say stable, i say that we just need to reframe, are kind of narrative rod history. the current perspective that we study,
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su 4 is kind of through the lens of the power. when we actually look is to that the moments where regular people have banded together and can achieve a look ah, doesn't start many council estates of funding since 2010 up to 1000 youth centers have been shut down for many young people. life is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous. tammy, morally helps those who have been impacted by violence. this is the graham park estate needs go out there, right. this is where i grew up. could you just tell me a little bit about what was growing up pair that 1st may he want to do work in your
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community? part of it is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age. living in poverty, see injustice experiencing, and justice, and been exposed to such extreme violence. and when i was only 15 my next door neighbor, my childhood friend, marvin. he was shown cold a month before his 18th birthday. and so yeah, that was definitely a catalyst for me to want to one understand how things are back can even happen in our society brought to work with in my community to support people who are experiencing the things that know people should actually have the experience, especially in children there are a lot of factors. oh friend does. could you just explain for a little bit about the services that you provide? the young people before fun is on a mission to empower young people and communities to fight for just this piece on frieda. and we support young people who have experienced violence to create change
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in their own lives, in our community and in society. and so it's about community empowerment. it's about uplifting young people to be able to friday and not just survive. you've also got a background in law, you complete a law degree, how much do you feel that has impacted your work in the community and wellness of the situations that people come up against when i went to university and i was studying law that when i 1st realized how detached the legal system or the study of the legal system is from the reality. i had an experience where in one lecture, when we were learning about families, are fighting for justice for their loved ones being incarcerate for things that they haven't done. what we're talking about is direct effect in my community and the future lawyers passing around really couldn't care about me. i
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realized i was nothing to do our system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them before i could even from the outside. i know the work you do, it's very kind of emotional it personal. what kind of told had it taken on you being engaged in that day to day? this work can bring a lot of joy and fulfillment. but i can't take away from the fact that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain. and watching young people process days, experiences, i feel proud that they don't have to learn about we experiencing those things as a community. collectively we experience and to care for. and in that sense, as long as there's injustice and all of this pain and that's happening, there's no way to not be impacted. so the toll take for me as the told i take from everybody the in
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2012 as part of an effort to reduce klein, the government commission to study that looked into the background of prisoners. it found that 63 percent of the inmates. they had been either temporarily or permanently excluded from school. the link between a bad education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as a school to prison pipeline. tell me the project be work on the forefront project. works specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important you think is to engage with young people who are being excluded from schools. when you marginalize young people from education 1st time, they will experience exclusion from society. and i think that has a knock on effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world
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and how they'll move for it. well, falling on from that, many schools are very disciplinarian and punitive and same young people up for imprisonment, certain young people because outside of just school exclusions, which catalog and attention. i think there's a whole spectrum that's even happening in the schools before people were excluded permanent me under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce the police called crime sentencing bill. they are ramping up secure schools that are supposedly schools with security rather than presents with education. that is not even a school for the pipeline anymore. we skipped the pipeline that went straight to the prism and it's not just about staying in school. it's also about what you learn and what's in the curriculum. and i think even really focus on this, you know, specifically talked about white washing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the progress the young people can make?
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i think like a fundamental part of education is you study any topic from a certain perspective. and i think currently we have a very your century perspective with clues, the pivotal and fundamental road this country paid in things like empire colonialism, slavery. and if we kind of look at our narrative around the past, this is idea that essentially these things were ended by a kind of moral revelation or mode development in the u. k. and across europe and across the western world. but when we actually look at the, the haitian revolution as an example of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which was most profitable, connie in haiti essentially over who ended slavery. that paid a pivotal role in shifting the tide towards abolition. but if you look at the way they currently presented the curriculum, it's essentially around this idea of moral development in the k. i think that has an impact on the way that we perceive social change today. because the kind of lens
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that we study the past in school undermines the importance in terms of the long term historical narrative, that movement paid. and that means that we under emphasize the role that we can play as a movement today. and tell me you're coming at this a few years further down the line is obviously graduated and been through the education system listening back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me, history was subjects. i was very passionate about i really enjoyed the civil rights movement in america was one of my favorite subjects. at the time, leaving school, i felt i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's happening in america. i had no idea about all of the black liberation organizing that was happening in this country way before i was born. i'm will continue to happen way also. i died by so why wasn't,
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i've been for about my own history in this country. something that i can connect with and relate to and not going to build my understanding of the world. i'm living mean of the society i'm living in. that's something that i really would have value and they get me wrong. i think international solidarity is really important. so i am glad that i got that understanding of what was happening abroad, but it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country. in the year ending march 2020, there were around 46000 recorded offences involving a knife and in london, the metropolitan police has warned that 2021 is on track to being the worst year of teenage killing him more than a decade as a response the ruling conservative party has called to the police to be given quite a pallet. while many journalists in the british media use a gang label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to this slide and
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tell me you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the gang culture, nice violence and why do you think it so important that that distinction is understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to 5 or marginalized, and ostracized particular groups. the word gang in this country has become synonymous with black youth. why one would off that as a question, why? what really is a gang? i mean, when you look at the legal definition, that's what we'll hooligan, they could be gotten by the legal definition of the various groups of people that could fit the definition of a gun. but the word gang is never use the label, then there's various research and studies, for example, one by part of that. so across a section of the media that they studied. 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe black youth, black men, and black boys in particular, it was the gang label. and i think it's really
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a store in the root causes of the issues of violence, you know, doing it on, do you agree? you have to think about the fundamental drivers and we should be like social economic inequality and how that is the root cause of violence and young black men of particular presented is being like immoral. and i think that connects to the stereotype in which is need to attend. she read those who are in power of the responsibility. do they have been creating the social conditions for this? why that? because it's not like, like the economic inequality that exists in our communities. the closer view of the di, funding of education, the lack of inclusive curriculum. these are all decisions being made by people in power. and so the user stereotypes and those perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused these social conditions and drive this violence. the gang label to me, that is an example of how certain labels,
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certain approaches are established to deny people. dad bruce to access the resources and support, they require to heal. so many young people die themselves. have, you know, perpetrated violence against other young people themselves. have also been victims multiple times, repeat victimization, and said, is this, i call victimization, not healing, victimization, healing got to be fair. if there's no can protect you if there's no one that can prevent that harmless thought that harm or support you all you've experienced palm . why wouldn't young people take matters into their own hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention to something that i've heard a lot was reporting on the find is that a lot of young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's going to come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police. i can think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k. i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why she is safety?
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because the way the law politicians talk about in the streets with as many police officers. and that's like safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our community who are risk of having a not to violence, committed against the police are not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims and then looking at them in a very that kind of lens of suspicion of all you about to commit require that so that the way that the police interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them is often from a perspective of kind of suspicion. and i think links about something that's really important to say is talking about how we want to move away from a punitive system. doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just want to make that clear who's really important to actually know that the system we have, there's no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where
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because all was stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this. i hom, this person, and i want to make amends. i want to repair that home. why would anybody and i'm just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed. i'm talking about right the way down to more trivial matters. but i dealt with 3 the course, there is no incentive, so actually the society that we have from a moral point of view is really not interested, intrigued, accountable, see responsibility. one of the things i think is important. so what is the contentious debate around drill music and you know, there is an argument that grandma is violence and that it perpetuates violence. but i want to hear what you guys think about you will meet specifically. this is an age old debate in relation to trying to regulate a press on black, awful, black music. what you have to understand is that for may be the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized abandoned. here now
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comes a pathway for some means of material success for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not being met . and here comes a way that people can, can do that and achieve, i think, what do you think about it? i think they kind of june music to part the, the right wing in our society because he went to him by issues of violence and other, one of those handy destructions by which they can kind of distance themselves from then direct low and creating the conditions in which violence happens because where have you ever seen the argument that any other form shown where the husband live, if i punk, or what drives people to violent? like if there was a look at all kind of map out, one of the things are driving by society. and there's a social inequality. there's a school fusion, there's only all the issues. but how is it near it in a song,
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the supposed going to be driving with this doesn't make sense. do you know, they know that there is an argument that we're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these other forms of a barley music, right? the difference is that with some dro visa has been specific references to real life cases of mud is of happened. people are, you know, basically using a song to say we kill this person. this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this coming to be said about that, but there's also like we just have to live and the fact that these young people lyrics of a narrative of their lives experience. but we need to ask ourselves, how as a society, are we creating a situation in which these kind of lyrics are happening? what does it reflect about in the way that our society is being run, obviously points out the phone rings or problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the violence in the lyrics of the songs. but if you listen to artists like dave or storms and a lot of the mainstream people are speaking,
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there are a lot learn to talk about the mental health effects that these live experiences had people. and for some reason those things don't really seem to cut him. i don't think a faith in the narrative, not a problem. one of my favorite songs of dave is actually called panic attack. and it's from like his 1st a e p. and i just so moved by it really moved and i think there's a lot of music that is really documenting what young people are experiencing and the kind of life that they have to live, how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and her dad, right, and to dignity on respect and the told about takes mental me and it just was perfectly encapsulated for me in that song and that there's other songs by example, as well. i think if people are so concerned about ro, they should be horrified that people having those live to experience, i've said, why are we not more interested in that me?
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in 2017, a fire broke out in grenville tower, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives later emerged that the fire spread so rapidly because grenville exterior insulation is cutting with highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated, the year before, to improve its external appearance managed, had used the flammable cutting because it was cheaper. we couldn't have this conversation without mentioning glenville, it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel like it represents your generation? what happened at grand tower? thumbs up, everything this wrong with the way the our society is. if you look at the way that there were systemic racism in terms of who actually died, most of the people were black and broad. if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community,
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if we look at the fact that people had been repeatedly warned about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who involved and what happened in photography and it just shows what is so fundamental wrong with the site. it was stopping searching young people for non violent drug possession and playing them in prison. but you can get away with 72 people losing their life in a fire. what does that tell us about the way that our society is one? i thought heartbroken. like most people about what happened, our graham fall. and i think for me, it symbolizes the neglect the abandoned men. and that's something that resumes with me a lot because i come from a community and my estate again neglected abandoned, and left to ra, entity, re a and to me grown folk speak to that because it's more important for this. i sort of a block to look pretty for that of the wealthy people that live near it. then it is
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for people who have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speak briefly at the same time because there are lots of overlaps from what you're saying. but tammy, you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us. we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. so your position slightly outside the system and your thinking of possibly pursuing a career in politics, right. and trying to effect change from inside the system. why do you still have faith in the system? also, all of the things we've spoken about will look a lot the way the law issues and policies and talked about. now it's people who are outside the system who shape the way that politics interact with society. because they kind of, if we look at like racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas that community activists and other people are putting forward. and if it's not necessary that we can solve the need to change, but it's how can there be nice people who are within the system?
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her receptive to these different visions of society? and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift in which my generation can try redesign. we shape this because just as there were people who made the system this way. so can there be, i think people who can time make it work for the vast majority of people in this country, following them from that point me in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more generally. i respect, i found the decision if he wants to go in and i filled that, we need to move toward a political system where we have people that represent tough people of the people of the community from the community for the community. and unfortunately, we looked politician just not the case me. so if we can have young people like i can feel in, but they can transform that system to be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is a worthwhile ambition to have
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a pass and the i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can work hand in hand, but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time and resource. and so that's my decision of how i've wanted to use my own time and resources to try and create impacts and create. well, there's been so much of this conversation which is positive, you know, and at this time that something i think a lot of people are searching for. so thank you so much for coming. and speaking to generation changed and i look forward seeing what you are going to do in the future . investigative journalism
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