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john ross, i'm when they hunt say j z. perform on as the main that a decade ago. so there are lots of criticism. the rap is not possible. it's not rock music, therefore, was woman buffy. jacey been there are the arts of kind of started to pay the wind storm. see the storms, the where he was there for years ago. again, was breaking down the think in what the diverse music until both me the on the ross coming important company tells you it's going to trust in the young people to look this music back in the 6017. so look that stuff because it influences contemporary music even today. ah, it's good savvy with us. hello, adrian said again, here in doha, the headlines and i was 0. at least 1000 people have been killed in afghanistan and a magnitude 5.9 earthquake in the southeast. hundreds of people have been injured.
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generation change next. ah. friends in the country with a long history of activism for women's rights organizations thought the suffragette, the anti fascist leven people have successfully poor for new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle for social justice is far from over in the thick, biggest economy in the world. the gap between rich and poor is thought an increasing welcome to generation change a global series,
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the attempt to understand and challenge the idea that mobilizing around the world. my name is amanda maroney and i'm a journalist base here in london. in this episode, we need to young activists who was happening the root cause is violent from unjust legal and education systems, to poverty, policing and racial inequality. hulu in 2010. conservative led government came into power and implemented a policy of austerity over the next decade, billions of pounds were caught in public spending. in london, youth violence and knife crime has increased atlanta catch blames, austerity sh
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. do right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right? yeah. a lot of people know this area for being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in working in the community. why is that? i think if you look at, there's immense, well, there's power that big companies, but we don't equally share the fruits of what's happening. and i think particularly as a, as a young person, you see all these issues around youth violence. and you decide, if it's not mean who's going to be involved, then you will be teaching . so when you were 15 years old, he decided to join the youth parliament of great britain. and you gave
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a really impassioned speech about violence and use some of the word winston churchill, please call my conservative leader against the conservative policies. as my time teams, more lives within our country, never pass so much been lost by so many because of the indecision of. so for you, what we think we need to find it to do that. it's about the idea that you can use people's words against it. the conservative party have the set of ideals about the way they want to run with it. but they don't for, with particular kind of rhetoric about living out the country is not matched up by any kind of real investment. it's all taping over the crux of a decade or stereotype which they prove entire communities under the bus. or what does a fair and. busy equal, more just country look like i think is about fundament investing in communities.
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right now we have a system in which community is essential left to brain, to problems that they face a lot. but we have to think about building a society in which everyone can have a fair start in life, which were all given that an equal opportunity if there were some people that said, okay, that's idealistic, you'll young either understand the way the world works. what would you say say table? i say that we just need to reframe our cannuck narrative around history. the current perspective that we study, su 4 is kind of through the lens of the power. when we actually look is to that the moment where regular people have banded together and can achieve a look ah, doesn't mean cuts him starved many council estates of funding since 2010 up to 1000 youth centers have been shut down for many young people. life is becoming
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increasingly difficult and dangerous. temporarily helps those who have been impacted by violence. this is the graham parker faith needs grew up here, right? this is where i grew up. could you just tell me a little bit about what was growing up hair that 1st made you want to do work in your community? part of it is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age, living in poverty, see injustice experiencing in justice, and been exposed to such extreme violence. and when i was only 15, my next door neighbor, my childhood friend, marvin, he was on killed a month before his 18th birthday. i'm so yeah, that was definitely a catalyst for me to want to one understand how things are that can even happen in
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our society. brought to work with in my community to support people who are experiencing the things i know people say actually as a half experience, especially children. i know there are lots of facets friend does. could you just explain for a little bit about the services that you provide, the young people before from is on a mission to empower young people and communities to fight for justice, peace and freedom. and we support young people who have experienced violence to create change in their own lives, in our community and in society. and so it's about community empowerment. it's about uplifting young people to be able to 5 and not just survive. you've also got a background in law, you've paid a law degree. how much do you feel that that impacted your work in the community and awareness of the situations that people come up again?
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when i went to university and i was study in law, that's when i 1st realized how detached the legal system or the study of the legal system is from the reality. oh, i had an experience where in one lecture when we were learning about families, are fighting for justice for their loved ones being incarcerate for things that they haven't done. well, we're talking about direct be affecting my community and the future lawyers passing around really couldn't care about me. i realized i wasn't nothing to do stuff system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them for i could do from the outside the work you do, what do you see? it's very kind of emotional it personal. what kind of told had it taken on you being engaged in that day to day? this work can bring and all the joy and fulfillment. but i can't take away from the
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fact that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain. and watching young people process days, experiences, i feel proud that they don't have to be alone by the way, experiencing those things as a community collectively way experience and to come fox. and in that sense, as long as there's injustice and all of this pain and trauma that's happening, there's no way to not be impacted. so the total will take for me as the told i take from everybody the in 2012 as part of an effort to reduce cline the government commission to study that looked into the background of prisoners. it found that 63 percent of the inmate surveyed had been either 10 readily permanently excluded from school. the link between a bad education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as the school to prison pipeline.
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kemi the project, the work on the forefront project works specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important you think is to engage with young people who are being excluded from schools. when you marginalize on people from education as 1st time, they will experience exclusion from society. and i think that has a knock on effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world and how they will medford well fallen on from that. many schools are very disciplinarian and punitive and same young people up for imprisonment, certain young people because outside of just school exclusions, which gallow in attention, i think there's a whole spectrum of even happening in the schools before people were. i'm excluded permanently under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce and the police court crime sentencing bill. they are ramping up secure schools that are
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supposedly schools with security rather than prisons with education. there is not even a school for the pipeline anymore. we just skipped the pipeline. i went straight to the prism and it's not just about staying in school is also about what you learn and what's in the curriculum. and i can even really focal on this. you know, specifically talk about white washing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the progress the young people can make? i think like a fundamental part of education is you study any topic from a certain perspective. and i think currently we have a very your century perspective with clues beef, pivotal and fundamental road this country, paid in things like empire colonialism, slavery. and if we kind of look at our narrative around the past, this is idea that essentially these things were ended by a kind of moral revelation of mo, development in the u. k. and across europe and across the western world. but when
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we actually look at the the haitian revolution as an example of it, of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which a wallet was profitable. coney in haiti eventually overthrew ended savory. that paid a pivotal role in shifting the tide towards abolition. but if you look at the way they are currently presenting in the curriculum, it's essentially around this idea of mall development in the k. i think that has an impact on the way that we perceive social change today because the kind of lens that we study the past in school undermines the importance in terms of the long term historical narrative that movement paid. and that means that we under emphasize the role that we can play as a movement today and tell me you're coming at this a few years further down the line is obviously graduated and been through the education system looking back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me,
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history was the subjects i was very passionate about. i really enjoyed the civil rights movement in the miracles. one of my favorite subjects at the time leaving school i. so i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's happening in america. i had no idea about all of the black liberation organizing that was happening in this country way before i was born. i'm will continue to happen way all right, bye. so why wasn't, i've been for about my own history in this country, something that i can connect with and relate to and not going to build my understanding of the world. i'm living mean of the society i'm living in. that's something that i really would have value and they get me wrong. i think international solidarity is really important. so i am glad that i got the understanding of what was happening abroad, but it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country. the in the ending march
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2020, there were around 46000 recorded offences involving a knife and in london, the metropolitan police has warned that 2021 is on track to be in the worst year of teenage killings in more than a decade. as a response, the ruling conservative party has called to the police to be given way to power. while many journalists in the british media is a gang label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to define it. to me, you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the gang coach. i knew the violence. why do you think it's so important that that distinction is understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to fathom marginalized, and ostracized particular groups? the word gang in this country has become synonymous with black youth. why one would off that as a question why? what really is a gang?
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i mean, when you look at the legal definition, hooligan, they could be a gotten by the legal definition of various groups of people that could fit the definition of a gun. but the word gang is never used, enable them. and there's various research and studies, for example, one by part of that. so across a section of the media that they studied. 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe black youth, black men and black boys in particular. it was the gang label, and i think it's really a store in the root causes of the issues of violence. you're nodding and you have agreed, you have to think about the fundamental drivers and we should be like social economic inequality and how that is the root cause of violence. young black men, a particular present is being like immoral. and i think that connects to the stereotype in which is need to essentially read those who are empower of the responsibility. do they have been creating the social conditions for this?
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why that? because it's not like like the economic inequality that exists in our communities. the closer view of the di, funding of education, the lack of inclusive curriculum. these are all decisions being made by people in power. and so the user stereotypes and those perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused these social conditions and drive this violence. the gang label to me, that is an example of how certain labels, certain approaches are established to deny people. dad bruce to access the resources and support that they require to heal. so many young people die themselves. how, you know, perpetrated violence against other young people themselves. have also been victims multiple times, repeat victimization, and said, is this, i call victimization, not healing, victimization, healing got to be fair. if there's no, i can protect you if there's no one that can prevent that harmless thought that
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harm or support you all. you've experienced palm, why wouldn't young people take matters in their hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention. something that i've heard a lot was reporting on the fine is that a lot of young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's going to come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police. right. i can think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k. i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why she is safety? because the way the law politicians talk about is like next slide, the streets with as many police officers. and that's like safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our community who are risk of having a not violence committed against the police are not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims and then looking at them in a very that kind of lens of suspicion of all you about to commit require that so that the way that the police interacting with people is not from
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a position of necessarily trying to look out for them is often for perspective kind of suspicious. and i think links about something that's really important to say is talking about how we want to move away from a punitive system. doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just want to make that clear who's really important to actually know that the system we have, there's no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where because all was stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this. i hom, this person, and i want to make amends. i want to repair that homes. why would anybody and i'm just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed. i'm talking about right the way down to more trivial matters. but i dealt with 3 the course, there is no incentive, so actually the society that we have from a moral point of view is really not interested, intrigued, accountable. the responsibility. one of the things i think is important. so what is
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the contentious debate around drill music and you know, there is an argument that glam largest violence and that it perpetuates violence. but i want to hear what you guys think about you will meet specifically. this is an age old debate in relation to trying to regulate a press on black, black music. what you have to understand is that for maybe the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized abandoned here now comes a pathway for some means of material success for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not being met and here comes a way that people can, can do that and achieve i think, what do you think about this kind of june music to part of the right wing in our society because he went to him by issues of violence and other one of those handy
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destructions by which they can kind of distance themselves from then direct low and creating the conditions in which violence happens. because where have you ever seen the argument that any other form shown where the husband live? if i punk or what drives people to violent, like if there was a look at all kind of map out, one of the things are driving by society. and there's a social inequality. there's a school fusion, there's only the issues. but how is it nearing in a song, the are supposed going to be dried and divide? it just doesn't make sense. you know, they know that there is an arguments that you're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these other forms of a barley music, right? the difference is that with some dro visa has been specific references to real life cases of mud is of happened. people are, you know, basically using a song to say we kill this person. this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this coming to be said about that, but there's also like we just have to live in the fact that these young people with
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lyrics of a narrative of their lives experience. but we need to ask ourselves, how as a society, are we creating situation in which these kind of lyrics are happening? what does it reflect about us? and the way that our society is being wise, obviously points out there's a phone rings or problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the violence in the lyrics of the songs. but if you listen to artists like dave or storms and a lot of the mainstream people are speaking, there are a lot learn to talk about the mental health effects that these new experiences hadn't people. and for some reason those things don't really seem to cut him. i don't think a faith in the narrative, not a problem. one of my favorite songs of dave is actually called panic attack. and it's from like his 1st a e p. and i just so moved by it really moved and i think there's a lot of music that is really documenting what young people are experiencing and the kind of life that they have to live,
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how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and her dad, right, and to dignity on the specs and the told about takes mentally and it just was perfectly encapsulated for me in that song. and there's other songs by example, as well. i think if people are so concerned about ro, they should be horrified that people having those live to experience, i've asked him said, why are we not more interested in that me? in 2017, a fire broke out in grenville tower, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives later emerged that the fire spread so rapidly because grunfeld exterior insulation, it's cutting with highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated, the year before, to improve its external appearance managed, had used the flammable cutting because it was cheaper. we couldn't have this
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conversation without mentioning glenville, it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel like it represents your generation? what happened at grand tower? thumbs up, everything this wrong with the way the our society is. if you look at the way that there were systemic racism in terms of who she died, most of the people were black and broad. if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community, if we look at the fact that people had been repeatedly warned about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who involved and what happened in photography and it just shows what is so fundamental wrong with us . it was stop and searching young people for non violent drug possession and playing them in prison. but you can get away with 72 people losing a life in a fire. what does that tell us about the way that our society is one? i thought heartbroken. like most people about what happened,
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our graham fall. and i think for me, it symbolizes the neglect the abandoned men. and that's something that resumes with me a lot because i come from a community. and my estate again neglected abandoned and left to ra, entity, re a. and to me grown folk speaks about because is more important for this. i sort of a block to look pretty for, but other wealthy people that live near it, then it is for people who have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speak briefly at the same time because there are lots of overlaps in what you're saying. but tammy, you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us. we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. so your position slightly outside the system and your thinking of possibly pursuing a career in politics, right. and trying to effect change from inside the system. why do you still have faith in the system? also, all of the things we've spoken about will look
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a lot the way the law issues and politics and talked about now it's people who are outside the system who shape the way that politics interact with society. because they kind of, if we look at like racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these are ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas that community activists and other people are putting forward. and if it's not necessary that we can solve the need to change, but how can there be nice people who are within the system? her receptive to these different visions of society? and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift in which my generation can try redesign. we shape this them because just as there was people who made the system this way. so can there be, i think, is that people who can time make it work for the vast majority of people in this country, following on from that point me in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more generally,
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i respect i found decision if he wants to go in and i filled out, we need to move toward a political system where we have people that represents people of the people of the community from the community for the community. and unfortunately, we looked politician just not the case me. so if we can have young people like i can feed them, but they can transform that system to be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is a worthwhile ambition to have a pass and the i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can work hand in hand, but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time and resource. and so that's my decision of how i've wanted to use my own time and resources to try and create impacts and create. well, there's been so much of this conversation which is positive, you know,
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and at this time that's something i think a lot of people are searching for. so thank you so much for coming. and speaking to generation changed and i look forward seeing with you, i'm gonna do in the future. oh oh. and the drug dealing shifted to place is beyond the reach of lou. and there are many people in the afghan government way involved in doctorate. gorilla was in columbia and mexico where
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the cartels have been responsible for a merciless spiral of violence. the final episode of drug trafficking politics territories on al jazeera. there are some of the media stories, a critical look at the global news media cast right on al jazeera government shut off, access to social media. ah, widespread devastation in afghanistan off to the most powerful earthquake in decades leaves at least a 1000 people dead. aah! adrian fund, again, this is al 0 buy from dough home. also coming up, ukraine sends reinforcements to the fence about the mask, but russian forces inching closer to capturing.

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