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ingle ethnic tension? this is it's, i'm sorry, ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm hush him. i'll bother. if you, pierre, is one of the most ethnically diverse nations in africa. it also has the 2nd largest population of the continent, but it has struggled with wising, ethnic based violence and tension. in recent years, just last week, hundreds of civilians were targeted by armed men in the gym, the district of a few p as or romeo region. what this is said, most of the victims belong to the m ha ethnic group. this mass killing shocked the nation, and once again brought global attention to ethiopia as political and humanitarian

crisis. prime minister abbey, a hermit, condemned the killing, saying on twitter attacks on innocent civilians and destruction of livelihoods by illegal and irregular forces is unacceptable. there's 0 tolerance for horrific acts claiming lives recently in both been in chandel and or on the origins by elements whose main objective is to terrorize communities. he went on to say restoring peace and security in effect of communities remains our key priority. as we mentioned, if your peer is an ethnically diverse nation, much of its south and west is inhabited by the or, or more people who may cap the largest ethnic group. the aha community is the 2nd largest and dominate the i'm her region to the north. and there are dozens of other smaller groups. conflicts are often fueled by

a groups demanding moorland and power, with attempts to drive out those seen as outsiders, the lesser bring in our guests in canterbury. okay, there's gonna get that show yemen or his a lecturer in court, comparative politics of the university and can't in iraq be william davidson, senior if the piano list of the international crisis group. welcome to the program . be soon it. what do we know has happened in the or only region? yeah, recently, we're going go and went to the incident where the one that happened in which so many ponder or so to be dance, where killed. and most of them where the farm, i swear to be there for, for several years and different report this are coming out regarding the number of

is which the report this by themselves, kentucky cree, some nation everywhere around 200 dead. and the report this mention that the, the number of the desk would be up to $700.00. that so the government also mentioned that there were incidents we so many people died. but the government, the nation, the number of dens. so it is, it is clear that a lot of the plans have been affected have died, but we don't know exactly how things happen or who did the killing because there is no independent investigation carried out. except about that, you know, so many reporters around the order, we're pointing fingers on the moderation army, which they're able to group denied. and chris, the. busy for independent investigation, government also reported that based on the killing were carried out by the able to

group. ok. william accusations, counter accusations, the government is putting the blame on they are on the liberation. army the oil, a thing. on the other hand, no, it's not as it was because of the fighting that was taking place and they put the blame on the government troops. and yes, that's correct, and it's a but by no means the 1st time i had this source of incident, the killing of civilians. i'm often of horror at mississippi and very strong allegations and reports of liberation and responsibility and then denial. i think it because the area is essentially a war zone and the government is preventing access to journalists and researches it does. it has been very difficult to authoritatively assess the details of these

incidents. and when we have a relatively recent instant, like this is particularly hard to come to found conclusions that we know is that the reports that come out so far from advocacy groups, the sort of state. if you're in human rights commission, some media reports have blame the overlay, but there isn't a huge amount of clear evidence that's come out so far. i'm an important context to understand is that these kennings of civilian occur in our mia often and west and are mia often of minority and horror as citizens. but it's in the context of a insurgency by the liberation army that's been going on again, going on since 2018. it's increased in its intensity, in met by a system counter insurgency campaign, which is involved abuses by the state security forces as well. and so as well as

the lay being accused of these types of trust is we also see a general climate of increasing violence in the region and the kenning of civilians . amidst that, at the moment we see no sign to the sort of and moved towards negotiation that seems to be needed to try and begin to reduce the level of violence in our me. joining us also told us to say from charlotte, north carolina toddress is the chairman of the, um ha, so she ation of american of america. her toddress, shall we see this in the context of the animosities between the auto mall and the amana? no, i don't think this should be seen in the context of the armis on losses between 2 people. ah, this is really a, an attempt by the aroma liberation army with the support of many of the army regional government officials list are elements of within the federal government to

achieve political agenda by deliberately targeting and attacking. i'm horace romeo. and this has been going on assist really 2018 when prime minister abbey, amid allowed the only to return our from the retreat, are armed and allowed them to give them space to recruit a trade in radicalize young ramos in the region. and this current balance of the la kevin edward administrators allowed the oral under britian army to come in to the area of several days prior to the attack occurring. the government malicious that were in the area were told to leech and not to allow the own a to come in when the overlay came in. right before the attacks occurred. good telecommunications, phone and internet was cut off and the attack started early in the morning until

you know enough for over 8 hours. then our d o n a was targeting specifically amares. the casualties that we have from our investigators in ethiopia is at least at minimum, $500.00 injury are $503.00 killed. are 282 of those. we have already had their names, their gender and other identity identifiable markers. and we believed that number is probably going to be $2.00 to $3.00 times higher. so this is, this has been going on for many years of the government has made no effort at all to protect the civil. yes. in fact, they have been enabling this massacres to happen in western part of the country the us pacific, or we are now in addition to las vegas. oh, it just says today, just so your audience is aware the the couple of jefferson new guy on the top. his son is a member of the orland aggression army. i couldn't rule that, given the militia office, she is also a member, is, has also been complicit and has been detained. another gentleman,

he done will choir the music militia member into cuba. his brother is also a member of the a will. so this state is ashley located in the massacres. could map petros explain to the, to the viewer how it is that the org or liberation army is both fighting and insurgency against the army, regional government and the federal forces. and indeed, there were some very serious instance just a few days before, with our lay attacks on going be town and then be dollars town was to attack on regional gum better. there's an ongoing insurgency counter insurgency, between the overlaid rebels and the government forces. but tetro says, telling us also that the overlay is working alongside the government. so i mean, perhaps you could explain the complexities to the viewers that roast. sure. i mean, i, i think, you know, the, the point is that the o and

a hassle were within the government apparatus. so this is a structural problem in the fight between the o and a and the abbey administration, or prosperity party. this is a fight, overpower the bull, the horrible posterity party, and the only view, the and other, not almost the area of outliers. i'll say this, i have to leave that room. you know, we do that. you are well below your people. this is of you help help by the irma prosperity party, the liberation army. so there is a fight overpower with you and a does have some work with that governance structure and also within the security apparatus as well. this is very complicated. that's what makes it difficult for especially america in the area business. if he have the arrival on the amato, make up 60 percent somehow 60 percent of the population in ethiopia. and you see these clashes, these problems. this could be an indication that the huge problem in ethiopia that

the country itself could one day explode. yeah, i don't think that the clashes between the $23.00 group and i don't, i don't think it is correct to claim that days, collaboration between the auto mall, abrasion, army, and, and the federal or the regional government terrace mentioned that the federal government or the region and oily debt problem is about power, but if they are fighting for power, there is no point for them to collaborate to attack civilian i'm i'm not sure the report the hub is even correct because i was reading last night the report. it shows that that one month old child was killed and there is a name, date of birth and everything i don't think. and if you have been culture and one year that one months old can be recorded even so the accuracy of the reports should be questioned. and that's why i mentioned at the beginning there should be independent investigation in terms ofa well,

pushing the country to water this explosion. i think this insurgency and the counter insurgency oppression can be resorted with through negotiation. as long as the governments recognize the legit made a grievance of that group who are operating, there is not just something that happened in 2018 but the cause of the or more liberation front or the or motor british army has been there since 1973. so we need to consider the back ground before just concluding what is going on. only associating with cost 2018 issue. so it has been there. it is protracted war, but you know, the scale has been, you know, going up and down depending on the situation. ok. but since 2018 obviously it has increased and the number of that it is also increased william. so he has, i think if i can respond to that briefly, if you don't mind briefly. thank you. i appreciate it. i think it's really incorrect to say that, you know, if you do not record there are you there. but these are the days that they were

born. i was wondering if, you know, my peers could my birthday. we have a writing system, a numeric system. that is, you know, thousands of years old. and so our investigators are reporting that by speaking to the victims, and in addition to that is correct that the owner has been operating for a very long time. you know, for over 3 years, for a good part of the part of 3 years, they had upgraded merely richard hutsel. and mr. abby allowed them to come in with their weapons. but we cannot legitimize the massacre of innocent people. you cannot legitimize an organization who are, who does, who's, who's trying to keep a political agenda by killing and massacre re innocent civilians. i think that's small, i think with organization like the only the leaders organization. and all those

government officials who are complicit in allow this to happen should be honda canada. ok, william you. so you have a civil war. the t grey fan. he how the problems in the i'm her region also the problems in the olivia special zone. could this be an indication that the ethnic federalism in, if you appear a, has to be addressed once again because it doesn't seem to be moving forward? well, there's no doubt that is experiencing massive political problems and violence, but, and i mean, typically the, the issue of federalism is that the debate over federalism is part of the political polarization and fundamentally different views in history. and who are the victims and the different grievance narratives and contestation over over power. now in the context of federalism, that is part of the political problems that is driving the violence. so simply

identifying the system as a problem is not a solution. the difficulty is bringing together polarized political groups, which of course, are very strong, ethno regional components, them. and just to return to this business of the alleged collaboration by government forces, government officials, and the allay. a just after the attack government forces into town. i mean, this gives some credibility almost to the allegation of the late themselves and the government is responsible for these attacks. but we have no evidence about either. all of this indicate very clearly the complexity of the disastrous politics. the multi faceted factionalism necessitate some form of investigation and ultimately again, if this political violence is going to be resolved, it has to be done through political negotiations. i stay given the gathering

destabilization instability we see in our media and no real end insights. and this insurgency counterinsurgency dynamics, i think everybody should be pushing for full access to researches you about a journalist, a truth between the parties and the beginning, a political negotiations between the armin nationalist and the government. and the type of i'm power groups and the address represent is your ideological positioning at tedra. when you have a nation of all was 80 ethnic groups. how do you see the path to reconciliation? what? well, i mean the, you know, there are many organizations that have put forward ideas. we conciliation, obviously there has to be an independent investigation for the atrocities that have been committed. ah, in ethiopia, by all actors in on. and the perpetrators be brought to justice. it has to be, you know, to transition justice. if you're busy for the 1st time, have to see for themselves what they have been doing each other. the balance that

has been a really the up in oro, me and in official google is region by the over a and the gun was militants, particularly against cameras. willis is something that we pirate, an independent destination. but in addition to that, you know, if you've missed nita susie out discuss the ah, type of government system that they, that they want in the future to take them away from this violence. the problem is structural art. there is no um, easy, serious, if you can, political partying, that is opposed to federalism. it is the ethnic federalism part, that many ethiopians are opposed to, which is really the, the root cause of all these problems. so the, for example, the fight between the war between the t feeler in abbey and his horrible prosperity party is not a fight over ideology, is a fight over power. so they both believe in the same ideology, 'til, if ah, you know, establish this ethnic federal system to really poor establish, to grow hedge morning. again, try to use that to establish or,

or hedge morning. and what we're saying is that as it yukos, we really need to look at this ethnic, our path. i federal system se, if we can move into a federal system that was fixed every once that the diversity of ethiopia didn't like my versus the religious diversity to put your diversity on that can be protected, but it doesn't have to be an ethnic base political system so there are many forms to fill systems that exist in the world that we can use as a reference. but this is a problem. let me go to. yes, william, it's important. i think it's important to point out that you're in line with what i was saying before this armor nationalist rebellion by the remote liberation army. now, according to tedra is the core reason for instability and mia, that is to a degree, a product. all that political group, that constituency, believing themselves marginalized, they don't want to see the eradication of ethnic federalism. they want to see what

they call genuine self determination for are mia therefore, any attempt to completely remove the system? because you assess and constituents and dislike it? that only to a perception of further marginalization and is likely to start the fuel to rebellion and lead to more violence. these are the simple calculations that can and it can act as need to understand, unless there is some form of compromise over the political system. then we will see a perpetuate action of a cycle of violence, but we're talking about the need to to implement reforms simply said, but when it comes to the implementation, this is where we have the problem be sooner. do you think it's about time for a constitutional reform, if you appear to put an end to the ethnic divide? i don't think there is, there is, any issue regarding the, the structure or order of the country is not literally, it is not

a unique country that does that multi national, the federal system, multinational federal system was only response to hundreds of years. so programs in the country, the only way to hold the country that where repeating itself, i part during 1990 s. so the federal system where operating quite well regardless of the lack of democracy and so many you know, right abuses until recently. so this come that the whole issue and it should be seen in a broader context. what's going on in, i'm her region, the conflict integrate and as well as the now far vinnish, angling gum bill everywhere that are, you know, a lot of conflict is that can be also associated with at the party system. you know that the fraction of the party system might also be one factor that contributed, especially when we consider that the war between 2 grey and the federal government and its allies. that was associated with the proctor of the party system, the party system where the only group that we're holding the country together. so

the constituent reform anyways, any country should conduct, you know, reform when it is required. if we consider other car explorations constitution, it has been revised several times. but at this time, i don't think the constitution is the problem that when a situation where are forming quite well. but the issue is, well, you know, wide ranging. so i believe there should be a court reconciliation and ok position among including the able to groups should come to the table and negotiate about the feature of the country to those if you want to move forward beyond ethnic politics. and you have 10 semi autonomous, a federal state organized along ethnic lines. i don't, i don't see, i don't see any way in a way forward. i, i agree. i think that it doesn't really require a serious, you know, political analysts to see if any come this is when you have,

we are divided along divided low arbitrary ethnic boundaries and that have disputes over land. and then how can you there it makes it very, very difficult to move forward. you can have, you can revisit this last ethnic base constitutional framework that allows the protection of all, especially the smaller ethnic groups, culture or tradition. our language analysis to move forward as you know, without this ethnic base division, that is, you know, really how to get it by this, by this, by this constitution. all right, you, this constitution is not working very well. just one particular point i hear from this constitution was working very well. america would have political repetition, repetition normally are all repetition with us. they do not even in areas where they are. majority william briefly if you don't mind so that a p r d f was the umbrella organization that one of the country for many years. it

was under the control of the took ryans than i became to paula people for this is going to be the beginning of the end and then charting on your course for if you, if you, but nothing does seem to be working for the country. what do you think should be the, the path or if, if you should take in the future? i think that, you know, essentially that the teacher, that particular policy is the dominant one within that ruling coalition. and within this security services, i think, you know, try to explain your depart board in terms of process unless there is your efforts to cool truces in all of these complex allows humanitarian access media, access, human rights investigation access. and then we're going to see a continuation of violence is going to be very hard to establish the facts, but more importantly, or more fun dimensionally the has to be a process of political negotiation here. and it isn't about one group. the claims itself to be the biggest victim in the country, getting to enforce their ideology and their vision for the country on the r. thank

you, because that will to write the violence instead we need will need here to play black is to come to some form of compromise over the countries kitchen. with interesting to see how the political leaders in the loop you will be able to navigate through this complex political landscape. so just fi bit sooner. got to chew and william davis, i really appreciate you. and so i thank you and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website at lazoodo dot com for further discussion. got our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a jane site. so you can also join the conversation on twitter. our hand that is at a jane site, saudi from the house of the entire team here in doha, by 4. ah ah, along

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