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group ation rebellion have been demonstrating unless been ahead of the un ocean conference. the meeting will focus on reducing plastic waste over fishing and species extension, and try to reverse the dramatic decline in the health of the world oceans. you follow stories on websites et al jazeera dot com. i'm back with more in half now. next is the stream and i'm just there to stay with us. world leaders will convene in the bavarian, out in the latest attempt to address the war in ukraine. and these financial pressure on the global economy, the g 7 meeting will be immediately followed by a nato summit in madrid, where expansion of the block and supporting ukraine will dominate. did all the latest developments on al jazeera, with hi anthony. okay, it is a on the street, we are marking well to rescue g day at a time when there are more forcibly displaced people in the world than ever before

. a 100000000. the reasons are a combination of covet, 19 conflict and climate change. let's take a closer look at the number. ah, mm mm huh. ah

joining us to talk about experiences of refugees internally displaced people and status people. we have mary k. mueller and to ban ladies. thank you so much for joining our conversation. where we really remind out williams who you are and what you do. hello everyone. my name is mary maker. i am as hosted denise refugee that has lived in calmer if you come my whole life i walk with you. want to see are the united nation high commissioner for refugees, the, the united nations refugee agency, and i walk to advocate for refugees. thank you, mary. hey, well, from you in a moment, camida, welcome to the stream. please introduce yourself top audience. hello. thank you for having me. my name is camila alvarez, i'm the legal director at the central american resource center are sent in los angeles. we are an organization that does direct immigration, legal services for refugees, including as i lease and organizing and advocacy around immigrants rights issues. i

get to have to find welcome to the screen. please introduce yourself to international audience around the world. thank you so much for having me. hi, i'm to banshee rash. i'm the founder of the latest law and i'm also one young world in pasadena. we support women and girls impacted by conflicts in displacement and we half say social space is inside refugee camps. and i'm also a genocide survivor myself as well as being a state person. so i am kurdish, my background, and to ladies for being part of our panels, he would like to talk to, to bon camila or mary, you can do so on you tube. the comments or questions right here at the part of today's show to run. do you remember that one searing memory from when you were a refugee? you would want to share with our audience because that connection, that connecting the idea that this is possible, it could happen to me. what would you share? what would be the one instance that you would share with our dance?

i think the main i would most probably share the moment the instigated it all for me to become a refugee. i was a 4 year old child playing in my grandmother's garden. i remember quite clearly playing with my doll and there was a loud thud rattling noise on the garden gate. it was like a metal gay, and the floor was concrete. so you can imagine what sound that would make and it startled me as a child. and i remember my uncle running out to open the gate and for me as a child, i saw him and ran to him for safety. but when he opened the gate, it was to iraqi soldiers dancing, narrow fronted in front of us, and that basically started off the persecution of us being taken to prison. and then, you know, from neb being destined to be buried alive. but we had a miraculous escape and then dodging mines bombs and bullets while trying to flee,

going, hiding, and my father being poisoned. and then eventually, you know, from the age of 4 to 6, at the age of 6, arriving in the u. k. as a refugee by that point within 2 years, i see quite a lot. oh my goodness. and, and as a child, mary, i'm thinking about that would refugee it so loaded for many people around the world because they haven't really experienced what it truly means. why do you think the often people think refugee and then not welcoming when not word comes up because this is part of the reason why we have a 100000000 people forcibly displaced. they didn't, they need to be this place if we're welcoming mary. when people hear the wind refugee, it comes with the wild stranger. i hate the wide stranger,

and it's so much like cornered kate and attached to the y fi when, when, when people hear what refugee they think of all people coming into our borders. they're coming to take a space, then our government has to share stuff with them. and it really becomes like i'm being wait on someone that actually does not understand who is a refugee the fact that people don't understand the meaning of refugee people have the dictionary explanation of refugees rather than the stories of refugees. the reason why a refugee is in fact seeking for safety in the board, us and i don't know how to like, just like put it simple, but it comes off as that's strange that other ring of like, than on us can. you know, you see this on a daily basis, you know, knowing ahead, articulate not. yes. so i definitely agree with marian, can i put it better that

a lot of folks when they hear the word refugee think stranger, they think other not thinking about the fact that as you said, i mean this can happen to anyone at any time we are seeing unprecedented global crises, and it really could happen to anyone in the united states, in particular. there's been so much harmful rhetoric against immigrants as a whole and in particular, refugees on this other in this criminalization especially of central american and latin next refugees that aren't really just seeking asylum. i hear so much in my work and i live in a very progressive area in los angeles, even here. how do you know that they're telling the truth? how do you know that things are as bad as they are? and if you sat down with some of my clients and with some of our community members and just listened to their stories, listen to who they are as people, you would have no doubt in your mind that these folks are telling the truth and are living through very unspeakable things and are deserving of refugee protections. there are so many crises around the world in terms of refugees, of migrant so displaced people that we have

a pat show of contributors. i want to bring in sat from the world's largest refugee camp. and that is in cox's bizarre, this is what he told us a few hours earlier about, i'd like you to have a listen to him because it's really how do you solve the issue of people getting out of these camps? because often they there for many, many years, he isa i, my family and 1000000 other people. my community came to 17 is already 5 years with all that have not mentioned. even though unless i get in was there per day. so i would like to request a community for one headboard, one king, and so much faith in the international community that from say, i hear that often. if the international clinton only knew how much he was suffering,

they would come and help us to buy reality. i think the reality is, sadly, when you know, and we've seen this in different types of conflict when it's all over the media and it's headline news, then that particular region will get lots of attention. and then once that dies down all the support and all the funding and all the hopes that you had for having hell, kind of goes with it as well. and so they become like, forgotten groups of people in, you know, and it varies in different situations. for example, in cox bizarre i know the, you know, the legalities of your status and what you can do and can't do as a refugee. it has a massive impact, for example, the region that we work in. we have lots of internally displaced people. so for example, they might still have the right to work. they might still have the right, they have the right to. they are producing identity documents and things like that

. but if you're in another region where you're in limbo, your, your legal status is in the mo, you almost have nothing and you are literally stuck in these camps and there's nothing anyone can do. and sadly, what we've seen as well in terms of our work been impacted, you see funding going out from the region and their priorities are kind of allocated to the most recent conflicts or some other situation. so you really do get millions of people in camps around the world kind of forgotten because it's no longer in the head line. sadly, i say now we have nodding and i say camila nodding as well. now you go 1st, you know, making refugee ship like a trend is a big thing. where, when the ukraine crisis came through, everyone is posting about it. i and a few months in right now it's starting to feel like the coven,

to report way. it's subsiding. it's going down and for you as a refugee that is in that situation. it's your story is still with you, you're still in that situation and, and all of a sudden you've been forgotten for someone like me that came to the refugee camp when i was 2 to 4 years old. that one i'm turns into into 10 into one year into, into 10 years and, and no one remembers your story as see that one is waiting for that next big thing to happen again to south. so that and, and then my story will be covered again. you know, like waiting for the 20th of june for my story to be out again on 150 day for well rest of the day so that everyone starts in about refugees for one day of the year. unless the headlines push refugees back into the headlines again. earlier on today for the program, the it who's a high commission,

the un refugee agency, he spoke to ask him about this issue about certain issues and sort of refugees and displaced people being in the headlines and then being forgotten. and we said, what would you say to donors? this is what he told us. and then camila, please come off the back of the un high commissioner. thank you. and hcr. all those operations at the moment are struggling. well, those responses are struggling and need resources. and what i tell all learners is i understand that ukrainian refugees need support. but if somebody flees home because of war persecution and violence, anybody fleeing for these reasons deserves the same support wherever they are. camila thought. yeah, i completely agree. i also think it's more than donors. it's the world as, as a whole. and also politicians. i'm. one thing that we're seeing in the united

states is this desperate treatment of different kinds of bureaucracies, in particular, with ukrainian refugees. and i want to preface this by saying that the crisis in ukraine is horrible, and cranium, refugees are a 100 percent derby deserving of protections and resources. at the same time, we're seeing that in i least in the united states, there are other groups who are not getting the same protections and resources, although they are undergoing very similar crisis these for way longer periods of time. so for example, in the united states, there is a law called temporary protected status, where a country can be designated a temporary protected saddest t p. s. country. and folks from that country receive temporary protections in the united states like work authorization, and they do not have to live with the fear that they'll be deported. so they ukrainian crisis we saw really take on the world's attention in february of this year by april. there was a united states designation of ukraine as

a country that will the job receive temporary protected status. at the same time, we saw cameroon get designated for temporary protected status, where groups have been advocating for t p for cameroon. for years before the united states government actually designated them at the same time, the we saw the world react to the crisis in afghanistan. once the taliban took over, that was august of last year. afghanistan did not get designated for temporary protective status until may of this year. and so excuse me, that treatment would just be just really ah, i'm just gonna ask you to like take off the feel to hear you. you basically did a list of how the treatment is different and you want to just be very timing. what are you saying? be bold just said frank, what i'm saying is that there was preferential treatment to white refugees in the united states. white refugees from ukraine, sa protections,

before middle eastern and black refugees and the united states. and that is the treatment that may not have been intentional, but is real. and neither people, it may not have the name came to know, are you being really on a stay where you just trying to make sure that you don't get in trouble for the future? you or i thank you for calling me out on that. i mean, it wasn't, it was intentional. the thing is, you know, re raise hell survey, the not tell it's on the stream or i've got one. i had to run it. yeah. i mean, well, we will see it in the u. k. the completely racist that policy was being implemented . it's very, very clear in terms of the refugees that are being supported, our white refugees. and if you're any shade dark, the white then you will be and, and this is from my personal opinion, not one young world, but you will be flown to rolanda as, as a solution. i mean,

i think that's absolutely ridiculous and i think the ukranian war and i'm not taking away from it. i feel for the people i've experienced it, seen it and we help people that currently have experienced this. so i'm not taking away from that, but what it's done is, is completely lifted. the, it's lift, hence the protons are tending out at bars. i reckon g, a shoe where it's actually, we have a black brown people issue, not a refugee issue. let me back that out with some some something quite solid. so i want to take you to the polish border in february of this year, when people who are living in ukraine, we're trying to get out of you rein. let me show you what we saw. and one student telling her story, and then mary, lovey cherry at healey go ah,

a, a as in mary. it's sickening to watch this videos over and over again. any time i'm watching it, it's just crazy because being in that situation you can inherently see the racism at hand and just fling itself is. it's just so much trauma around it and, and having to seek safety and being able to ask people to actually give you

a safety is apart. you shouldn't be asking people for safety. it's our collective human responsibility to give everybody safety, you know, and watching these videos. i watched it like throughout the whole, the whole february. and it just doesn't. i'm losing it was odd to say what the reality is as a refugee trying to cross borders. it's regardless of your race, a way you're coming from. you need safety. that's on core for war. i don't know what, what codes are bad, but that in itself should, should tell you that you should be welcoming, and it should give everybody safety despite where they're coming from. i have a c me that i want to put you to mueller and to bon, and that is that what we saw with ukraine is a little bit by what we saw. we've covered 19 we were told that there weren't

resources, there wasn't funding, we couldn't mobilize to do all sorts of very critical things, very fast. and in cove, it happened and back there was the money ukrainian refugees needed assistance and boom, there were all the programs are allowed to what they will have to stay in countries . people who gave them their homes, it is possible. so if i was going to take away a positive take away from what we have learned at this moment is the racism. the prejudice is now being that there's light been shown on that. and is that possible, or am i being too optimistic of what we have learned from the ukraine crisis, which is still of course, ongoing. kimberly, you go 1st. i will say that i agree with you, that it has shown some light, whether it will actually impact people caring is a different story. because as with the coven 19 crisis, people cared until they didn't. and so there is this light shame being shown on

this racism problem. however, how do we get the global community to care and to move politicians and different key stakeholders into eliminating that racism is a completely different story. i will say that we saw that same racism at the border, but the different treatment of ukrainians being went into this country to seek asylum in the united states. just as soon as they came being let in where we saw the black and brown immigrants being detained outside of the country for months and 2 for years. and to be honest, god has been a problem that's been right in people's backyards in the united states for a while and they encourage it. and so i think there has to be this reckoning of the global community that we see this racism delights being shown. but what do we do now? what do we demand of the political actors? what do we demand of donors to say this can't happen? and it's going to take everybody seeing ads understanding about it and carrying

about it and then taking the next step. how do i engage and take action and push folks that are in power to change these races. policies, when we have a 100000000 full simply displaced people around the world, it means that our approach to displace people at needs needs some overhauling perhaps. so maybe we're not asking the right questions. for instance, do not refugees despise people themselves. have to be at the heart of the solution of finding the solutions to man. you're notting, a had a very like yes, i think and actually it ran you go through because often these programs are put together and nobody's aust, the people who are displaced. what do you meet? the van when you don't do that you. that's where you start. that's your starting point, right? that's exactly. you know, i think i've had so many discussions this week and you know, it's, it's been what's the solution. and i, i've turned around and said, well,

why don't you bring the refugees, the people that actually experiencing it to the table, ask them, ask them what kind of solution they'd like to see. i know in our centers and we, you know, if you just take it down to the small community level in our centers, when we try and implement projects, we asked the women and girls, what kind of projects they'd like to see because they're the ones living in the camps, they're the ones that know what kind of things they'd like to experience on a day to day basis. and it's, it's exactly the same kind of thinking, ask the questions, include them in the solutions, find out what solutions would be best from their perspective. i mean we, we talk about refugees, but i think it's really important for like the, the global community, people to stop ringing them into the discussions and actually asking them what they would like to see. mary. i just feel just like she has just said it and most of the time is like you want to help a community,

but you actually don't understand the community to, to be able to have the refugees fast to understand who is a refugee, what does the refugee need and that means making their revenue not making the refuge is by letting the refugees tell their own stories from their own perspective . no one show that caught anything, give them this pays and the platform to be able to put out their frustrations and, and what they actually need in that way. we are able to, to help more and more refugees. and here's the mistake that most organizations do, where they think they've already made the plans on how they're going to help the refugee and the refugee is not even aware of it. so when you come in, you're wasting the energy and the time where like when we are fleeing, after that, as a kid, my mom fled as a farmer. my dad was a politician and, and everyone asked keels and resources to bring forward. so it's all about understanding what resources already exist in the refugee come then how can you add

to it as an end, you know, as an organization that wants to help refugees. timing that they not making itself is the key. all right, i'm gonna leave you with one more refugees story and that's one of course, you know very well, and that one comes from ukraine, his se, more than 7000000 people move from the little zones in the east, central and west from ukraine. and now they are safe, but they are not all right. they are accommodated in the very inconvenient conditions, all the collective transit centers. they don't have any employment. they suffer so much, all the basic needs for survival. it food and hygiene, and are they are traumatized. they are shocked, scared they lucille ages and they need psychological support therapy, counseling, and children need very basic things like game play, entertainment. thank you,

sir. how thank you to everybody who contributed to the show to mary can move lead to ban to you on line on you chip a really appreciate you. thanks so much for being part of the days program. and i feel for me the takeaway is, that's true. every display status, refugee as if they were coming out of the crane. i feel like some way as a solution to how we look after the world when they moved out of their own house. thanks for watching. i see next time take ah ah, the hillbilly, the harmless caricature or a malicious label denying of people that culture to justify the exploitation of their natural resources, that the bad and conquer thing has been so successful that even people in the region leave the stereotype then becomes danger, it's only a region of trash,

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