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demand cash in dollars. most people including health care workers, are paid in the local currency, the lebanese pound. that's d valued at the health system. once the best in the region is crumbling. awesome, gushing kelly's mother got us. we can't secure enough medicine for cancer and kidney. dialysis patient was we can't give them the 3 sessions they made every week . doctor said the accelerating crisis has reached a point where patients' lives are at risk. then a footer else has either tripoli, northern lebanon. ah, hi there. this is al jazeera and these are the headlines. at least 3 people have been killed and a shooting, a shopping mall near the danish capital. copenhagen. many others were injured. please say a 22 year old danish man has been arrested. pull, reese, isn't copenhagen for us? police are saying they're certainly not ruling out terrorism,
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but they haven't. they haven't decided on a motive as yet. they, they have said they were arrested a 22 year old, or what the police chief earlier described as an ethnic dane and in the vicinity of the fields shopping mall after winded witnesses described him, walking round, shooting people. whither are what those witnesses described as a hunting rifle? police in the u. s. city of akron, ohio have released body cam footage, showing the moments that lead to the shooting of 25 year old jaylen walker. the black man was killed after officers stopped him for a traffic violation. ukrainian president calling me as the lensky has bound at the military will regain control of the city of lesser chance ukrainian forces withdrew after a russian advance. it was the government's last stronghold and the eastern province of lou hands and the men of the eastern city of scott, yan scott says, many people have been killed and wounded there after the city came under attack
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from advancing russian troops. but emily says the shelling was the heaviest and the long time. that said, he isn't the net. squeezen man says 3 quarters of the people who used to live there have fled since the war began. palestinian leaders say us officials have handed back the bullet that killed out there, john mystery. and after examining it now earlier, the israeli military had said that it would test the bullet with us over science, but it's still not clear if that's what happened kind of thing. you need to say the bullet was given to the us with assurances that israel would not be involved. serene was killed by israeli. so soldiers and ne, while reporting on raids in the occupied west, back the west african block echo last has lifted economic sanctions against molly, imposed in response to a series of military coups. leaders from the block have been holding talks to discuss the crews and molly guinea and bettina foster. well, those are the headlines next up. it's inside story. i'll have an update off to that .
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ah. over 19 cases are surging again around the world. some countries have we imposed restrictions, they just lifted. so what's behind this rise of infections and what should we expect? this is inside, sorry. ah . hello, welcome to the program. i'm rob matheson cover. 19 cases are on the rise in more than a 100 countries. the micron very in,
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dominates those in factions. it's 2 main mutations known as b point 4 and b point 5 are harder to track and resistant to vaccines. the next few months are going to see an increase in global travel as millions take their summer holidays. and that's likely to increase the spread of covered 19 those. and the pandemic head tourism industry. we're hoping to recover this season as restrictions began to ease in many places, but that could change the head of the world. health organization says the pandemic is not over driven by beer, 4 and beer. 5. in many places, cases are on the rise in 110 countries causing over all global cases to increase by 20 percent. and does this have prison in 3 of the 6 w 2 regions? even as the global figure remains relatively stable, this pandemic is changing. but it's not over our ability to track the virus is
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under treads as reporting and dynamic sequences are declining, meaning it's becoming harder to track or me grown and analyze future, emerging variance or restrictions are coming back in some places and they could again become part of every day life italy has extended the need to use masks on public transport until the end of september, germany and ireland are thinking about making the mandatory in a few months. and the new variance, i'm more resistant, the w h o and several other organizations are encouraging more vaccination campaigns and booster shots china has maintained some of the toughest restrictions, but other countries have been easing them and if cases continue to rise, we may see a return to government impose locked ends and strict took contact tracing everywhere . ah. okay, let's bring in our gas in the robots we have as it in e bohemia, his director of my biotech and professor of medical biotechnology. that mohammed
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the 5th university in barcelona, jeff lee lazarus is head of health systems research group at barcelona institute for global health. and in mon, by md offer ish, walker, ladder and infectious disease specialist, and secretary general of the organized medicine academic guild. a warm welcome to you all. thank you very much. indeed for being with us. dr. yolanda i want to start with you are these spikes that we're seeing mainly down to countries opening up or is there something else at play here? if we just heard the word dr. doss' was telling from w, joel, what we are looking at is only in good, you know what up cases, but we're not looking at the trajectory. how many of those cases required oxygen? how many of them are lining up in hospital? how many have require you and how many of them are dying? if you look at the global debt still today in last 20 years, it is 1.2 percent of the total cases. that is called case propeller did it, but currently on the ground that has come down to 0 point one percent,
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you don't want to percent. that is one in 2000 to 2000. and that's why there will be ground very, and i have been labeling for the last several months and we didn't support that that they end up concern if we look at currently, yes, there is a surgeon gets us, but mainly assorted is in us. it not korea, taiwan promised monday it lee and u. k. and there are various while in population as compared to india. i like prague . why? example, france is i want you to 1.5 percent of the population where the boarding 10 does more cases. so there is some problem that b point 5 is more important dep certainly when we are seen yesterday that be a point, a b a 2.7 to fight, which is a new sub area and has been detected just only yesterday. and there are so many it gives us, but all the sub areas where there is a be a point door be a point for why they are highly in fixtures. but they are not little,
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they are not killer, they are not giving you more. but it the model of the book, so by that way, we have not big bad. and i don't take that long to just have to come back again. i don't think that was many more strict. rebecca, good. as being able hear me. you are nodding all the way through. that is the situation that we're facing now. very different to the situation that we were in when call that 1st came to pass. i agree with my friend from india. i think what we are seeing in morocco actually is the same situation. we have higher infection rates in the rock right now. but when you look at hospitalisation and the death rates, the numbers is actually very limited and the numbers are the same. so i think what we're looking at, i think the, the highest problem we got, we got it with death. i don't think that's and comparing to me chrome, let's compare in the last year at the same time in morocco we have the data and it did that. we had the high and fiction and the high rates mortality and
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hospitalization and numerical right now we have a really very strong for pick. i may say of infection. but besides that we don't see hospitalization or that we are not looking at the same virus or most i have to say that. and i had to say that's comparing delta to be a 4 or 5 actually, we are not looking at the same virus on. so i think strongly a thing that the approaches should be changing. and to talk about the core with i think we have not at march 2020 but we are at june or july 2022. and a lot of things are changing. jeffrey lazarus, according to our 1st to guess, my impression is that things are actually improving that things are getting better . is that your interpretation? no, but other things that we should be looking at. i'd like to agree,
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and obviously we have the few, you know, people with the rest of your symptoms fewer deaths because the vaccines are working on the negative side. i mean, the elephant in the room is really long. kobe persistent symptoms occurring after 4 weeks, and for some people, after 3 months, 6 months, not just fatigue, i'm sore throat and cough, but you know, serious symptoms that can even be permanent, like thinning of the brain membrane and reduce lung capacity. we also have concerns that there's weighting immunity with the 3rd. ready the 4th, those they say is maybe waiting even faster than the 3rd dose and hasn't been rolled out everywhere yet. and my main concern really is that we're not preparing for the future waves and there will be future waves and be a wine infection. with that, the very end is not protecting us against reinfection with the a $4.00 and $5.00. and it's hard to know what's to come as doctor tedra said a few minutes ago. you know, these are hard to track and it's going to be very important to keep sequencing more
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and to build laboratory capacity and countries that haven't been able to sequence so much to date. and this one got a lotta, they the point that professor laza is making barriers that we may have reached a situation where i'm covered at the moment is managed show when you say, but there are longer term impacts, particularly with reference to say, a long covert. i'm how we approached the, the dealing with any particular variance variance in the future. what do you think are the risks and the concerns with regard to long covered what professor lazarus says is right that long ago it is a major issue. we do not understand completely what is long career to how many people will get it. we'll get it over there. only symptomatic people will get you dory one or somebody, people get it. but what we are seen or the year when an off year or 2 years is that goes which we are in the 4th. then 2nd vale, they last year,
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june or day got go it. they are having longwood problem. we are not seen much of the people with the army grantville a got covered and they're getting longer. it may be because in day, oh me, granville we are seeing mainly up what is frederick infection and that is only l. v were sore throat and nicholas berg lethargy and come by and little headache, but lower part of lung is not in white. near one idea is not dead. ah, we are there. what are the oxygen requirement is lot. so possibly those required oxygen, those will, ended up in hospital delux, landed up in ice. you or her, or we're going to bed with her. we're director. there may be piercing water problem with all along covered. secondly, what we are seen, those people with co morbidities or maybe i but then john di bodies aging, renal failure, a previous lung problem by brown kill us tomorrow to book les his death to sing what volume language. so we need to understand what he language, and that is
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a precise isn't that even though micron is a milder video and as compared to previous video, we should be very careful about long of it. and what will happen in next 6 to 8 months as it emer him? a did you think that that means that the, the stresses and strains that we saw being put on the world's medical facilities aren't going to go away. that this in may be a pause until as dr. gelato was saying and professor lazarus that we begin to realize that the longer term impact of something like long covered why he with the my friends actually the longer we could be a problem and we have to be very cautious. but i think what we are saying right now, that so on the question is so clear that it will be, if these are, will be a stress on the head system. i think it will depend on the countries because the age will be a big factor in that. and they're thinking countries like in africa, it's not going to be a problem because i think now we know that the recommendation that is to
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recommendation that we can make vaccine 18. and then when people, we're older people are conical diseases like people with diabetes or hga or other these for the skype. and the other thing is just this, the scene and masking. i think it will be very difficult and we have to say it right now to go and ask the population young population to be vaccinated right now, because this people, they don't see the need of that. and as we are saying that the immunity will be going down and the vaccination will not give you a really high amenity via other viruses or some variant leon, people will not vaccinated. our hope actually is actually to go and targets are very people, people with clinical diseases so that we can not have actually a big stress on the system. and you can understand that in countries, what do you have a young population like in morocco and the african countries?
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i think people are not thinking about the codes right now. that's mainly thinking, bought out of problems. jeff lazarus of the you and said and made that a 1000000000 people, the estimated in lower income countries, hadn't been vaccinated. do you think the governments have become too relaxed or do you think the people are themselves are just bought? let sure. we said say could got complacent, that they have just decided that covered is no longer an issue. how do you address that kind of problem? well, it's a combination of both coupled with what's been a very slow rollout of, of vaccines to low and middle income countries. that are, that's getting much better now. as people hear that death rates are falling fewer cases of severe sin of people with severe symptoms that they are less worried. and i'm afraid that policy makers are playing in for that because it's not very popular to encourage vaccination to encourage control measures like face masking,
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insides like that. but i think they're doing it to service to their population also because i'm, as there's more transmission in the community, we get more variance. and as we seem with only con, more sub variance and with, you know, no protection against b, a 4 and 5. when you have b, a one would be a $4.00 and $5.00 more transmissible. i think we need to do everything. we can to slow down the transmission and slow down future waves, including the current wave, wasn't in abraham. i do think that the world opened up too soon. hey, don't think so. i think that's right. now we can say it's actually we have to, to have this question, isn't the end of the pandemic? i think it's the right question that the population is asking, and they think when we look at the curve, actually, how we got with the you hand virus. after that, the alpha, i think we had the biggest problem with the, dealt with the army, chrome b one. actually we have less problems and actually with the bay to less problems and maybe the sick was usually are not,
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that's good at the original version. so maybe i'm very optimistic that we are going to read he to the end of the stand in me coming back to you a question. i think we didn't open just because really for health reasons. we opened up for different reasons. i think the recommendation is not usually just the hello commendation or the scientific recommendation, but that is that comic skill recommendation we were talking about tourism or so that's and plays a big role. but i think the risk that's we have taken route and right now, if we don't talk about the long covey, i think it's well taken. and i think we have to open up because we cannot keep up after 2 years on the huff with the situation issue. gelato given that that the india was one of the countries that was hardest hit simply if nothing else by scale in terms of coven 19, and also in the economy is in difficulties at the moment. do you think that there is a concern that longer term? if the impact of long cove it appears to be as great as people are concerned,
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that it will be that the impact on the country is going to be significant. and we're going to see india's economy and countries like india, c, their economies really begin to struggle and become under pressure in the way that we saw at the start of the outbreak. say a propos to what, a globally, people think about india. aah! body 2 month period of last year, 2021. 0, it printed to june in the are done very been and he has done vaccination to the do not a loss close to $2000000000.00 vaccines are provided that 75 percent of the population is at least one goes. and 60 by 66 percent of the population has asked are 2 doses vaccine india let. one of them would license vaccines in india did their vaccine un for children. and the indian economy is currently doing fairly well. it has put a veteran. now. 5 atwood that they're out of consent, all did that when you open up the get go up,
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but did not go up. so what size of lee in india would be a little bit of the country with a population of 1400000000. we are hardly of 152-0000 cases or day may be dam water which are not reported. but when we go by what has been happening and how many i reported live duly. we are reporting very few cases, but did some very, very low every day. only 15 to 20 deaths on top. 30, almost half of the did started here just yet ordinance. so i did that. i did judo when one person, one in calvin. so by that way, in the us bring video. and secondly, coming back with the question of vaccination, what it says, what, what is the number of cases a psyche now globally, is that wendy deaths are hiv, indicates that high people want to take vaccine. actually speaking, that is a wrong damn good vaccine. where best time predict vaccine is wendy chord, or any fiction is like low. i duct them, you know that you had a reaction. i think people who just not infected of n d o a band to make is going up. and at that time, your vaccine,
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i think that miss you maybe vector, i think people what infected on what, including the white us. so i think people should understand one thing. yes, there is a global integrity, but india has come to rescue. india will continue to be addressed you'll, india can provide the vaccines at much of the low price. did laskey shoe is that some of the vaccines everybody law day like will just for the white months? dig you yeah. efficiency advisory martini vaccine, on what i'm now vaccine. but as compared to astrazeneca is esther than he got done very well. and that, that he's under india, i being 90 percent of the people that integrate. esparza nigga has done well. and there is a study in militia that they use 3 vaccine as to jenny. gov by the a marinez and cinema from china and their cd ought to come up both vaccination and how many verde? well, between fiction, how many debts order between diction. wonder found that if one person died of esther geneva, 2.5 times what people died of about any and 9 when fight them war died after xeno
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act. so that miss, you know, back is useless. and as compared to and what in it it started, any guy is part of bigger. so that is that he's on that india probably out as a bigger vaccination and allow the immunity out of vaccine may be lot lasting little bit longer or much longer than the about interacting jeff lazarus, there was a big push at the height of the the, the outbreak of to try to give individual countries the right to license the drugs themselves. and indeed them, it did the capability of manufacturing their own vaccines and so on. and how has that gone? because we kind of lost sight of whether or not those programs are actually, are working in if they are producing the, the, the vaccines that people need, particularly of course, in the african continent. vaccine production is incredibly complex. so even when you have the license having the production facilities and all of the different components, sometimes as many as more than 100 components to make
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a vaccine. not to mention the filling and completion of facilities that need to be in place, the storage, the refrigerators and so on. so it is progressing. there is good will. but i think that the difference really has been that capacity has increased well, or the availability of vaccines is increased from high income countries as people here got vaccinated. i think we need to be thinking long term. we need to be thinking, well, how are we going to decentralize vaccination production or vaccine production more and allow manufacture outside of the hubs where it's been to, to date jeff, do you think that, that the governments are actually still interested in making the level of investment as needed either in the, in the vaccine production or in terms of getting people vaccinated depending where they are in the world or in t, just creating systems. and the 2 for example, systems,
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air breathing systems within, in air conditioning systems within buildings in order to try to make them better or more suitable to try to control this kind of thing. yes is a, there's a couple of questions in there. so i think, you know, it can take a big investment from high income countries and you know, it's not just about the cobit 19 vaccine. this is an opportunity to increase production and productivity related to vaccine production in other parts of the world. now we really need a vaccine plus approach. vaccination is not going to get us out of a panoramic. it's not going to and, and future waves are in the pandemic really as a public health threat. so like you mentioned, we need to improve, we need to make structural changes. we need to do 2 things. we need to be improving the, the air quality, indoor air quality, and how that works in buildings, particularly the new buildings were instructing. but we also need to educate the
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population on how we can improve air quality through better ventilation, simple things about opening windows, opening doors, how often they should be opened and having more c o 2 monitors available. so people can actually see the indoor air quality. i'm in their schools and their places of work and take action as necessary. it's not that expensive and not that complicated to improve indoor air quality when it's related to opening doors and windows. it is, of course, when you're doing major structural changes to buildings and short colada, do you think that we're it necessary for the, for governments, but the indian government to reintroduce mosque wearing to re introduce restrictions within the country. do you think that people would be as willing to accept those or do you think that people are now sort of set in the, in the, in them and they have the mindset that covert is over and there is no problem and therefore they may be putting themselves at risk actually you put down
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a question and you answer yourself. we don't think the government is in a more to lot of district just now and government to go to says restriction, i don't think people will follow them. now. what we need to ensure that people event data endorse and data crowded places like a local train. so, but says so publicly says appear, does this, you would use mosque, we should emulate what practices and what we see a good practice has are in hospitals and clinics. and start restaurants and hospitals where everybody is reading mosque. so if we believe that the job, i think that will be good for us to prevent the one that is where deductions your workload is. no problem later on. awesome, awesome. i think that will help. so that has to be a culture in people. we do not expect the government to put everything in order and ask people to do that with other people or done that for 2 years. they are actually, we've gone over it. so i don't think any kind of restrictions are required and
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they'll be ordered in either the national government or by the end instead of being able to meet all we at the stage where people are going to be required to have an annual booster for against corporate in the way that they do against viruses, i think scientific, you have to ask her to answer scientifically. we don't have that. that's actually to say that against be a for be a 5. how long the vaccine would give us the minutes? yeah, i think that question would be of that, but coming back to what's my to france, we're talking about, i think the pandemic is different from one another. i think when we talk about india and africa, most of the people they are beyond actually a dependent mac. the. i'm not thinking bought mask in the, i'm not thinking about taking the vaccine and they don't see even the need for that . definitely. when you tell them that even if you are taking the vaccine, you want to be infected, people will not actually get to be vaccinated. so i think that is awareness that we have to work on actually in discussions on the other parts of the world,
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i think what's gonna happen mainly people do would be asking for vaccine or the 2nd or the 3rd generation that will give you immunity. and that will answer your question. if you are taking a booster, you want to make sure actually that this poster would be protecting you a couple of months. if not, you will not see the need for it. but we can say right now for the every, i think what is really left of the immunity given by the vaccine is really very had for, for the reason people with chronic diseases for the younger population. i think it will be tough to convince them to go to be vaccinated. i want to say thanks to all our guests as any new or human jeffrey lazarus and dr. esau's got louder. i'm that thanks to you too. for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion for to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join conversation on twitter or handle
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