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ah. mrs. al jazeera, i'm sorry, navigator we're bringing you. continuous coverage of the u. k. prime minister is boris johnson's resignation. after 2 days of political high drama, johnson has announced his resignation. so the prime minister made a statement outside his official residence in downing street just about half an hour ago. and he said he was sad to be leaving the best job in the world. or, as johnson had been resisting the calls for him to step down, here's what he had to say. it is clearly now the will of the parliamentary, conservative party that there should be a new leader of that party in the apple, a new prime minister. and i agree with the grey brady, the chairman of our back bench and peas, that the process of choosing that new leader should begin now. and the time table
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will be announced next week. and i love to de appointed a cabinet to serve as i will until a new leader is in place. so i want to say to the millions of people who voted for us in 2019, many of them voting conservative for the 1st time. thank you for that incredible mandate. the biggest, conservative majority since 1987. the biggest share of the vote since 1979. and the reason i have fought so hard in the last few days to continue to deliver that mandate in person was not just because i wanted to do so. but because i felt it was my job, my duty, my obligation to you to continue to do what we promised in 2019. and of course, i am immensely proud of the achievement to this government from getting brett's done to settling our relations with the continent for over half a century. reclaiming the power for this country to make its own laws in parliament
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. getting asshole through the pandemic delivering the faust is vaccine remarked in europe, the fastest exit from lockdown. and in the last few months, leading the west in standing up to putins aggression in ukraine. a let me now say not to the people of ukraine that i know that we in the u. k. will continue to back your fight for freedom, for as long as it takes. and at the same time, in this country, we've been pushing forward a vast program of investment in infrastructure and skills and technology the biggest in the century. because if i have one insight into human beings, it is the genius and talent, and enthusiasm and imagination are evenly distributed throughout the population. but opportunity is not, and that's why we must keep leveling up, keep unleashing the potential ev,
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every part of the united kingdom. and if we can do that in this country, we will be the most prosperous in europe. and then the last few days, i've tried to persuade my colleagues that it would be eccentric, to change governments when we're delivering so much. and when we have such a vast mandate and when we're actually only a handful of points behind and oppose even in mid term after quite a few months of pretty relentless sledging and when the economic scene is so difficult domestically and internationally. and i regret and not to being successful in those arguments. and of course it's painful and not to be able to see through so many ideas and projects myself. but as we seen at westminster, the hud instinct is powerful when the hud moves it moves. and by friends in politics, no one is remotely indispensable. and our brilliant and darwinian system will
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produce another leader. equally committed to taking this country forward through tough times. not just helping families to get through it, but changing and improving the way we do things cutting burdens on businesses and families and yes, cutting taxes because that is the way to generate the growth and the income we need to pay for great public services. and to that new leader, i say whether he or she may be, i say i will give you as much support as i can. and to you, the british public. i know that there will be many people who are relieved. and perhaps quite a few will also be disappointed. and i want you to know how sad i am to be giving up the best job in the world. but them the breaks. i want to thank carry and our children though, all members of my family who have had to put up with so much for so long. i want to
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thank the peerless british civil service for all the help and support that you have given our police, our emergency services and of course are fantastic and a chest who at critical moment helped to extend my own period in office as well as our arm services and our agencies that assert admired around the world and are indefatigable conservative party members and supporters who selfless campaigning makes our democracy possible. i want to thank the wonderful staff here at checkers at here, number 10, and of course at checkers. and our fantastic prop force detectives, the one group by the way, and who never leak above all, i want to thank you, the british public for the immense privilege that you have given me. and i want you to know that from now on until the new prime minister is in place,
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your interests will be served and the government of the country will be carried on being prime minister is an education in itself. i've traveled to every part of the united kingdom and in addition to the beauty of our natural world, i find so many people, possessed of such boundless british originality and so willing to tackle old problems in new ways that i know that even if things can sometimes seem dark now. our future together is golden. so that was the statement. johnson made just a short time ago. let's cross over to westminster and bring him very child. he's joining us from there. so how is this going down at westminster, rory, because he's resigned, but he's staying on for a little bit. and presumably conservative. m p 's will have a reaction. and so will the opposition. yeah,
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it depends on who you talk to. there are certainly impedes in westminster. who would like to see the back of boris johnson as soon as possible and there are others who would like the process to work itself through and to maybe take a little bit more time over it now for us johnson and his resignation address there, said demons the brakes that say was the kind of for the brilliant and darwinian system as he put it. i think really that, that he feels did him in awe. now, i can speak to a stewart, andrew, who until yesterday was a housing minister. you know, boris johnson, was it the system that did him in or was it forest johnson himself? well, i think probably a combination of the to really but you know, i'm, i'm not gonna not man, when he's down i've, i had to make a difficult decision. but i recognized he's done an enormous amount of work as prime minister, not least, the breck sit situation. we found ourselves in responding quickly to that pandemic
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. and of course, the issues that we're seeing in ukraine, but ultimately, you know, people were raising with me about trust and integrity. and so i had to make that decision to go yesterday. then he said the country deserves better. what, why did you say that? what? because i think actually, you know, people need sir, politicians get a bad name anyway. we don't want to confirm that, and i think it's important that we have people in place that people can trust and, and that's what i want to see restored. but now is a time for this chart position to happen that the leadership election happen, and we can carefully consider who the next leader of the party should be. so you don't agree them with andrew bridge and i was speaking to him earlier and he was saying that or a stroke needs to go right now that thereabouts more jap, damaging allegations to come out about him and he is fated. he compromise, he needs to go right now. all is the normal run of things when the prime minister stands down,
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but they do continue until the new leaders been elected that happened with david cameron. it happened with truth may and you know, we need to get functioning government up and running again quickly because there are some serious issues that need addressing. let that process happen so that we can get on wood running the country. but we spoke about an hour ago and you're running off to go and do something in in parliament out. tell us what you were running out to do and why. so i'm, as the housing minister, i was so with my colleague, neal o'brien taking through the leveling up and regeneration bill, which is in committee at the moment. of course we both stood down yesterday and so there isn't a minister at the moment to see that bill goes through. and so as a consequence, meet this morning just to adjourn the committee until next week, when probably somebody will be in post because that's a big problem, isn't it? there is at the moments are barely a functioning government. so, i mean, the thing is we mustn't forget that there are thousands of civil servants in this, in the system though do an incredible job. and so they won't be making sure that that process is still happened. but you're right in terms of,
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in the process of delivering the legislation in here that is slightly in, in that flux at the moment. but i'm pretty confident that i'll be restored trail, you know, pretty quickly and, but certainly by next week, who do you want it is the next leader. so i haven't made my decision yet. i'm keen to hear what the candidates have got to offer because there are some really big challenges facing the country. not least cost of living and people concerned about that and seeing, you know, the price is rising, inflation is of concern to people. and also how we respond, continue to respond in, in the situation in ukraine. so i want to listen carefully to what the candidates have to say and see what their vision is for the country, but also how they want to leaders into the next election. so that we can hopefully win that again there are big problems facing the conservative party under the the recent bi election defeats point to a fracturing of the conservative parties electoral coalition. de your perhaps losing the red ball that you gains most recently in the north and perhaps losing
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a blue wall in the south as well. so how does or the next leader of the party rally that discipline it disintegration and try and prevent her that defeated the next election? so i, and i've been in this game long enough now to know the actually by elections mid term for any government, whatever color are incredibly difficult. and i don't think it's insurmountable to, to get ourselves back and ready with the serious chance of winning of the next election. but i would certainly hope that the new leader, we'll certainly focus on those issues that people do care about. and i think to do that, you know, leveling up is something but i think is resonating in communities that have been left behind for so many decades. so i think that will help us in the red wall areas . but equally, making sure that the cost of living crisis is being addressed for people all over the country and recognizing a conservative values that people do support, you know, cutting taxes and being sensible,
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running the economy. so those are the sorts things we need to focus on from now. i'm in, because the latest polls aren't particularly good for the dories. others suggests that, ah, the to the general population is, is moving against the parson. so at the thing with the polls is that they do keep changing a lot. now i have to say, you know, i remember when margaret thatcher was in government and she would often be 20 points behind. and she often would argue that if she wasn't midterm, she was doing something wrong. so you know, when she went on to win elections and i think that has happened with, you know, in other scenarios since, so i'm, i'm, i think we can get this back. we've just got a focus, we've got to unite now behind whoever is the new leader. and we have to speak directly to the people of this country that we are serious about addressing their concerns. so what about the time table and $44.00 are replacing for us, johnson. how quickly should this move? well, that'll be for the 1922 executive to set the time table. i suspect roll where i could be wrong, but we will probably have quite an accelerated camp, you know,
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sort of process within the weeks before recess. so that hopefully then we can have the 2 candidates who go before the party membership and they have some recess to sort of go around the country to speak to members of the party, you know, who else and they will make that decision. thank you very much. the 100 a suit, andrew, who formerly was housing minister back to you. thank you so much. every challenge reporting from westminster. so aboard johnson's exit. who are the front runners to take over the top job? well, the there, the former chancellor receives tonight had a high profile in the pandemic. he gained popularity as the public face of the government economic recovery planned. but concerned over his wife's tax status were costly. there is the foreign secretary, let's trust. she was one of the most popular senior members of the party. her previous post of international trade secretary saw her secure post breakfast trade deals. also in the running former foreign and health secretary, jeremy hunter was born. johnson's main rival in the last leadership contest size,
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a job that has now resigned twice from board. johnson cabinets. first, the chancellor. then on tuesday, he quit his health secretary. java was the 1st person of color to hold one of the great offices of states when he was appointed home secretary in 2018. 19 while he was immediately named the student alex replacements as chancellor. he previously served as education secretary. let's cross over to paul brennan, who is joining us more from london to talk about the, the potential candidates going forward, paul. and actually what happens next? well after the question, because the time table has not exactly been specified, we heard from bar as johnson in his speech after like turn over my shoulder. i won't do less than an hour ago now, just to say that a time table, we will be established next week in order to finalize exactly how the transition of power will be organized. but there are many people who do not one forest johnson to
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remain in charge, even as a cat take the prime minister while the process continues. many m. p 's, many foreign ministers, many people who resigned from the government because precisely of forest johnson. i think it would be an absolute mistake to have him in charge, but he's the reason why they went and they don't think he should stay. some of the quotes were really quite brutal. i mean, someone cummings, the former special adviser to boris johnson here at downing street. she became johnson the nemesis after cummings left dentistry, said, leaving johnson in charge would risk carnage. another former minister, unnamed said, the behavior of boys johnson over the previous 48 hours was reckless and erratic, and he can't be trusted through to the autumn. god knows what he will do. another one was but george freeman, a minister, who resigned this morning before boris johnson, finally a capitulate and said that he was going to step aside for that. johnson needs to
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hand in the fields office to the crane and advise us a call for i can take a prime minister to take over from today. so there's a lot of pressure for bar johnson not to be allowed to remain in downing street for a period of perhaps as long as 3 months holding court over there. it's kind of can take your administration through to the author when a new need would. well, the intention is to have a newly elected the conservative party in time for the awesome conference. many people d, p. i'm happy about that and it's still very uncertain the time table will actually be paul. let me ask you something about the opposition cure summer leading leader up. the main opposition party said this that he would call for a parliamentary confidence both in the government. if the conservatives did not remove johnson at once, how likely is that still to happen? a lot of questions about what the labor party strategy is going to be. i don't want
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to turn off our international view as by getting into this sort of inside baseball of british domestic politics. but i mean, living what questions been asked about later as to why they were pushing for a conference vote in parliament. selecting a prime minister is essentially a conservative party on an internal process. it's not the why the country the collect, the prime minister, the conservative party in parliament and peace get together. they decide which of them is good enough for the top job. which of them has the support. thank the top job. it's not for the water. busy parliamentary wall contingent that said when boris johnson with digging his heels in and refusing to go on the prospect, was that the internal processes of the conservative party would not be cricket off in order to remove him on monday. next week, a lot of pressure was on the late part to say, well, you live in part, you call about in parliament because it's probably a lot of conservative piece or side with you and get a bar. johnson, a lot of questions as to why that was one reason why was because the labor party
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were concerned, but if they were the ones who was seen to wield a knife against the prime minister, it might actually coalesce support around him. you know, of course, johnson said in his departure, speech here heard instinct, his strong an attack on a prime minister even as flawed as far as johnson might just bring support back into his into his camp. so i think that's why labor strategy has been on the one hand, perhaps quite subtle, perhaps quite clever. but on the other hand, starting from the question. all right, and just one more with you paul. i mean, what does this all mean for the governance and the running of the country list trust come out with a statement calling for calmness and unity but, but in terms of the governance and the issues that people are really dealing with, the high cost of living inflation, what impact is, is this going to help? well, it is going to have an impact, and there is some math in westminster circles about this trust is predicament. she
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is the foreign secretary. she is in bali in indonesia, the g 20 summit. and yet i'm missions for the conservative party leadership and the ambitions of her to be prime minister are well known. so it is a stroke of unique bad luck for her to be essentially on the other side of the world. when all this is going on. so she is understood to be racing back to britain as quick as you possibly can to put herself into the mix of all of this as far as the processes of government go. well, boris johnson this morning started reappointing ministers to the offices of state in order to try to maintain some kind of functioning of process, some kind of functioning government for the weeks ahead. we've got about 2 weeks left before parliament due to rise for the summer holiday. so there's not long actually for government to continue, but they're always decisions that are necessary even in, even in the holiday period. so even the parliament is,
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is rising on the 21st of july, the actual department treasury defense. they still need to operate and without ministers to sign off on decisions to actually make decisions. it's very difficult . so he has been making appointments this morning. the dollar is he's gonna take those appointments and how can they offer a many of these people actually quit because of johnson and if he staying in number 10, it is a really difficult conundrum for people to square a circle for them to square. if they're going back into a government, which still has him even normally at the head of it. okay, thank you so much, paul brennan, reporting from london. let's bring in our political commentator, jonathan less. he's joining us by scott from london as well. welcome to al jazeera, so palmer and was just saying that even though maurice johnson has obviously resigned, he staying on a for a little while longer. he still a making a some appointments as some cabinet appointments. what is the strategy behind that?
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the strategy is t in play is ego, as much as they could possibly go. he's determined to clean owns off as being on his title as long as his policy allows him. and now that makes no sense, the country which is facing a credible challenges and the cost of living crisis, we'll say, of course in the ukraine war. and it doesn't make any sense for the policy, eva, which needs to elect a new leader, eric, and try and rebuild some of the damage that johnson has done. now there's no reason why johnson needs 3 months, even if he was going sanders can't take it, which he shouldn't, by the way, but even if he was during stay on 3 months is a spar longer than he needs or the concert to parties. so let's anita theresa may became prime minister, i think 19 days off, david cameron resigned his party leader johnson himself became prime minister a month and a half off to resume resigned his party. that this is not neat, stretched out to the table. so how do you see the next couple of weeks then playing
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out or what, what would you, what would you like to see because clearly you are against the the process that is currently taking place. right now we have a deputy prime minister dominic rod. he is, you know, i'm no fan of him politically, but he is the deputy prime minister and that role exists to precisely this purpose taking on the mancilla prime minister when the prime minister becomes in despise. now, johnson has clearly accepted that he's not going to be prime minister anymore, and he's lost the faith, the trust, the goodwill of his party is what is the country? it makes no sense of it. don't make raw not to take on. this can take a role for which his is title i quips in. and when johnston doesn't enjoy the confidence, if all these ministers have told johnson that he's not fit to serve, it makes no sense for them to then decide to serve for 3 months. 3 months is 3 months too long. what did you make of his statement in general, because
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a lot of people pointing out that and that he didn't seem to apologize for anything who johnson is never really apologized sincerely, anything in his life. i wouldn't expect any genuine contrition from him. it was actually quite extraordinary. this on the things he was saying and he talked about, he stayed on through a sense of gc. that was the last thing he was thinking about. he just wants to stay on because he enjoys being by minister and he won't stay on a few months longer is low because he wants to out last the tenure. theresa may because he thinks it would be humiliating to be feminist that a less time than she was. but he also said really bizarre things about resetting our relationship with the while he's about to bring on a trade without closest political and commercial friends. and also talking nonsense about, look down to the vaccine rollout, which has been completely forgot sentence as the vaccine rolled up by the british people. the bottom line is the force johnson really has very few achievements to speak of the one thing he's don guessing breck say,
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don festal hasn't actually happened because it's still fighting with the e. but even if it was on it's the complete disaster is economy is not the tools that i use about, or i will have to leave it. i thank you so much, jonathan, less for speaking to us from london. so boris johnson has often made of a servant, controversial decisions during his time of the u. kay's prime minister john hall has more a lot not vote for us. he led his party to a landslide election victory in 2019. but boris johnson was to be undone, both by events in which he conspired, and also by his own character flaws that critics say made him unfit for high office or still some has no say for letting he has. there is no moral leadership, but for him it was always about becoming hyman's. they're not about being timing's that and he i think he knows himself well enough that he knows that he does not have the skills that you need to be a successful prime minister. sonya panell was
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a reporter working alongside johnson in the brussels bureau of the daily telegraph . she describes a man with a lot of the child in him who enjoyed getting into and out of scrapes. a man drawn to calles and the chaos means that he can sort in urge through these things going along elise, all this noise, all this commotion as the person with the great i dale, the width the witticism. and that is what appeals to him for his johnson. the corona virus pandemic was a perfect storm of crises and calles that blew attention away from other problems. despite his promise to get brakes, it done, britain remains mud and dispute with its biggest trading part of the european union . the economy is underperforming. the cost of living, rising health and education systems. faltering success with the vaccine program helped obscure johnson's own indecision and delays in following scientific advice
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that contributed to one of the highest death tolls. in the developed world, former chief adviser, dominic cummings, described the prime ministers leadership as erratic in decisive distracted. nobody could find a way around the problem of the problem is that just like a shopping trolley smashing from one side to the other, the shopping trolley metal would quickly be seized upon by the opposition. so he's doing what he always does. crushing over to the other side of the aisle, boris johnson learned early to be self sufficient in a family of competitive siblings with a mother who suffered ill health and a father who was frequently absent. at the elite british boarding school eaten, he came to believe ordinary rules did not apply to him. in the infamous bullington . drinking club at oxford, the outward persona of a jovial buffoon, disguised and in an ambition for power. and as both
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a journalist for the times newspaper and a minister in opposition, johnson was accused of lying and fire. these then, with the qualities he brought to politics as mayor of london as foreign secretary, and then his prime minister entitlement dishonesty and indifference. this is really the 1st time in his life where he's ever, she'd been held to account for anything he's always been don't. she's always been excused, is always been reasons made for him. for his 5 behaviors. there was wide support for his handling of the war in ukraine, but johnson never recovered from the scandal known as party gate. he received a police fine for attending a lockdown party in downing street, making him the 1st british prime minister to break the law while in office. a civil service report into a string of similar gatherings described a failure of leadership. eventually 148 of his own m. p. 's, 40 percent of the parliamentary party turned against him. in
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a vote of no confidence. maurice johnson limped on for a bit again. but the reasons to forgive him had run out journal al jazeera. that's bringing him belle, was a professor politics quickly, mary university or london. he's joining us from there. welcome to al jazeera. so is that the right thing for johnson to do to stay on as caretaker? i think that is a really difficult question. clearly most of the public wants to seem resigned. i would like him out straight away. i think it's something like 7 out of 10 people think he should go go now. those and pay to resign from the government were clearly failed that he should go now and that the deputy prime minister take over the role of the caretaker prime minister is simply afloat not to make any take the controversial statement. so policies is partial, some really the man to do that. i don't think so. right? because we've already seen him make some cabinet appointments earlier on today,
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even though we're at johnson, as you know, has resigned himself. so what do you think the strategy is behind that? well, i mean, he has post, you know, he doesn't want to bring in the people who resigned. most of those people, he is going to be recognized, generally speaking as allies or else people were just wanting to do the job for the sake of public service. i don't think there's any sense in which he's, you know, making a move to try and stay on. but i think, you know, one of the things that he does care about is how long he will be prime minister for he does want to be trees amaze, record of staying in office. that's. that's clear. and he doesn't want to policy immediately. he wants a little bit of time, perhaps even to make up for the chaos that he's course over the last few days. so i think he does very much values. relationship with ms. lewinsky in ukraine. he'd like to see himself carrying on that kind of well,
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states role. i suggest that's probably something to do. what is your sense of how the leadership election will pan out in terms of the, the key candidate it's going forward? well, i think the 2 ministers to resignation really started this process . a will definitely stand. there are a couple of people who stayed in cabinet in order to demonstrate their loyalty thinking that that would enhance their appeal at least trust is certainly one of those ban wallace. the defense secretary, maybe another people to talk about g minister any more on their own. so people outside of the government, you could argue that it's best to go for clean skin. somebody. busy always johnson, someone like tom to give you heads up for affairs committee. also jeremy holmes, who lost 2 bar stools back in 2019. so there are
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a whole range of people who will stand. we could see as we did in 2019, actually around 5 votes. of the column, it call it order to win down the number, then go forward to the membership to just 2 people. so i think we'll see a pretty chaos process. i'm the next few days, which people will suggest themselves as candidates test. and then we'll get almost straight to way into the bones, right in hand to just give me a sense of how damaging you think this could be for the party or has been for the party in fact, well, that's a good question. i mean, there's no doubt of course, personal ratings have been calling for quite some time and they probably will be dragging the conservative party down. i suppose there is some reason to call to the one thing teach him. people will begin to look at the party and the government knew that that is possible,
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but you have to count back off against the fact that this country is facing some pretty di, economic circumstances. we have a huge spike in inflation, right? we, we are going to recession a whether a go make much difference to that. so if you really have to jump in there, my apologies, but we're coming to the end of the program. but thank you so much for joining us and speaking to us from london. that said the news, and we have insight story coming up, and then the news, our at the top of the hour, i will see you then. thanks for watching. a weekly look at the world's top business stories from global markets to economies and small businesses. to understand how it affects our daily lives. with counting the cost on al jazeera, more people are hungry today than ever before. and the un warns the numbers are
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growing rapidly, billions of dollars a needed to prevent a global food crisis, but what's causing it? and can we do something before it's too late? this is inside story. ah. i want to program. i'm still robin demons. latest report on global hunger shows, we're moving backwards. at least 828000000 people went hungry, one way or another on a daily basis. last year. war natural disasters and rising temperatures. are threatening food security, the prices of wheat and other crops have increased exponentially and will continue to do so. in the horn of africa, the severe drought is exacerbating the situation. so let's take a look at the key findings in that un report. nearly 830000000 people around the world went hungry. in 2021,
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that's up nearly 50000000 the year before and 150000000 more than 2019. the gender gap has also widened nearly 32 percent of women and moderately or severely food insecure in 2021 compared to more than 27 percent of men. and around $45000000.00 children younger than fives of wasting, which is the deadliest form of malnutrition. and increase is a charles risk of death by up to 12 times caraway tasa. mister kenya is why jer county, to give us some insight into how communities are coping oh, security officers, make it clear. anyone trying to jump the queue won't be helped people here a waiting for cash payouts from king us government money to help them cope with rising food prices and a recurring drought. how my still receive depends on how vulnerable the families are. earlier, i'm at the minor problem wise, the hood of all my animals have died because of the druids. i have nothing left at
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home to eat. according to the you, in millions of people in east africa are facing food shortages. the broad stretches far beyond pena parts of ethiopia and somalia have also been affected even of his dad's raining significantly and people planned crops. it'll be months before they can harvest anything. climate change is expected to increase the frequency and severity of droughts as rivers run dry. people at b sharp riley are traveling increasingly long distances in search of water, lank, or hank. okay, i've been walking for days with my animals. i finally found some water this side on, but it's not enough. the government has suspended import duties and levies on mays as well as animal feed to cushion canyons when the rising cost of living. but many are still desperate. it is very hard to say. as mothers or of families made to make the ran out or food, or out of meals for almost a day or 2 days. oh,
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so trish away or others, sometimes event reported are death gears do tour as hunger does allude, have been to ported, saw the situation is very bad. community elders are worried. they say people have started fighting over dwindling resources. it says that a ha, my son was looking after the camel's. 4 months ago, some men shot and killed him. then they saw all the animals. so people in northern kenya savings are held in livestock. a man without animals can not to provide. drought can wipe out a family's fortunes, and it can take years to recover, to making sure they heard stay alive, is a priority. had a matessa algebra. what j county king? ah, let's bring in my guess for this edition of inside story in amsterdam mills molena, a policy advisor on climate justice to action aid in the netherlands. and in the french city of niece is up the reza of a son, a food market,
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and less than former senior economist that the food and agriculture organisation of i will welcome to you gentlemen, on this edition of inside story nelson. just begin with you in amsterdam. i mean, we see reports and press releases about food, poverty, and food, hunger all the time. what so different about this report coming out at this particular moment in time? i think the simple answer is that there's an increase that's just astronomical. we've seen that countries haven't been able to recover from cove it and then conflicts have come along. and we're also starting to see the genuine impacts of climate on the food systems. it's exposing just how vulnerable bud, the global food systems are to ah, to the shocks, to the system that we are simply aren't able to remedy with, with our current boot system. or as a addison in nice me, what do you think can come out of this particular report on this? and this press conference for it because some eminent names are actually on the
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list. in terms of the presentations, you are the director general of the essay, an organization that you were connected with. we've got the president of our i fad, we've got unicef, the well food program, the w h o. it's a who's who really trying to get the world to focus on. the real problem was very unfortunate, isn't it? because it's been many years that international organizations led by f you and other. ready conditions, particularly dealing with food, but food systems are warning that you're not really doing what you're supposed to be doing to reduce hunger analysis. and in fact, one thing about this support, which makes it even more sad, is that the numbers the statistics to pursue, predates the war, we know crane and all the problems of the start of this year. it reflects back on the developments in 2021 and before and already we had failed. and in fact, prices of food, as you know, had been rising even before the war. so we are in
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a situation which i think there is no other, but it's done to call it a crisis and it's not just in the food sector or calling just mention on the climate side, political side. so really we are in trouble and i think it is, it is not, i mean it's good that they all came together and they're pledging again for, for global efforts. but honestly, something fundamental has to happen, or else we are into much, much deeper problems in the future. and of course you've touched on one of those big issues of it's ukraine mills and we come back to you. of course, we can't blame everything. what's happened really in the recent sort of russia war on ukraine. but we were coming out of a pandemic. we saw the problems you might say within 2 years. but the last sort of 10 years has not been an easy time globally in terms of the way the climate is also impacted on all of this. that's entirely correct. ah, we've seen that droughts have increased. we've seen extreme weather increases.
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we've seen numerous firms of climate catastrophe happen across the globe, mostly in the global south, mostly impacting women. ah, and as a result, what we've also seen is that local food, ah, markets, local food production has been just heavily, heavily hit. and when you bring in the ukraine crisis, we've seen how the lack of grain, the way we use our produce the fact that much of it is produced for biofuels. the fact that much of it is produced purely for animal feed, that we're not, it, it's, it's just exposing the vulnerabilities of it. the fact that one war can break out in eastern europe and have ripple effects all across africa, all across the global south is simply shocking when we've also for the last 10 years, been investing in development and other ah, other processes. however, the way we're doing that has made countries are like kenya, countries in the horn of africa, extremely dependent on, on, on,
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on the global north, which is just a sensually meant that they aren't able to produce for their own markets. local food prices in these countries have been on the rise for a long time because much of the fertile ground is being used to produce non food agricultural products that are them being shipped out of the country. ah, and leaving very limited space for local food production. indeed in a new business, that's sort of the subject of it right here and now of the residential talk once of one of the issues in the report that's been highlighted. and that seems to be this dramatic jump in figures after 2015. and 11 does what the driving force was because it says that after remaining relatively in change in 2015, the proportion of people affected by hunger jumped in 2020, and continue to rise. in 2021 to 9.8 percent of the world population compared to 8 percent in 2019 and 9.3 percent in 20. 20 lots of figures here. but what was the
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driving force? what happened in 2015, that, that, that made it jump so quickly because we didn't have the ukraine war going on, or we didn't have a pandemic? you know, we had the serious crisis with food prices back in 2008 to 2012 period to some extent at that time you know, a lot of issues low in lot of countries and so forth. but we never really came out of that problem and the probably contained it to safety nets through trade and also agriculture which responded to the demand and production increases. but in effect, the deferment hunger and crisis lot of hot spots. joe political issues were all there. they really didn't disappear and i think what happened is that after we, we've kind of finished with the that crisis period. we started,
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are you still collecting statistics and numbers and you see, oh wow. things are really terrible. are still. and in fact, one could say today, we probably never recovered. and from 2015 onwards, we see relation of hunger and all the problems that we saw multiple crop failures in many parts of the world happening in also the last 70 years. and then you have, we have now almost 3 years of cobit again, you would not been able to see the implications of coal with exactly what was happening afterwards. the 6 tells us what happened. we knew we knew that would be a disaster. we knew that many countries would not be able to cope with it, but, you know, and the warnings were made. and today we unfortunately realized that the predictions were correct. and as it is now that you know many, many analysts are warning about the future being much worse than was shield before . simply because this war and all the options in trade. this is not something
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probably today again be get the feel of it because of the price response and so for . but there's more than prices. people's consult is at stake. they, they cannot afford the they will be eating less. they will meeting porterfield and all of this things is going to come and hunt us back. perhaps in we know in a year or 2 short was not going. unfortunately, if you can just look at it in more detail and with nell's because, you know, we're talking about again from this press race, 927000000 people, 11.7 percent of the global population face food insecurity at an insecure levels. so we talk about the pandemic, we talk about people saying, hey, we talk about production not being up to its maximum. that potential. are we now talking about scaling up production or to pre pandemic levels? because there is the problem, is that the workforce nails is not there an ad to that the problems with the climate. so we'll talk about climate in a moment. but let's talk about workforce because you need people to,
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to pick the food or to collect it from the fields. and that's the big issue for many countries. i think for, for many countries, um i'm sure that is one of the issues, but i think fundamentally we, when we look at the food system, we've made it heavily industrialized. we produce significantly more and you significantly more land than that. we actually need to, to be able to feed the world's population. it's the structure that we've built this on. it's the way we use food. it's the fact that we're using it for bias as the fact that we're wasting a great deal of this production. which and it's, it's easy to fall into figures and markets and that kind of thing. i want to bring it back also to, to the humanitarian side of things where you see families that are able, that would theoretically be able to produce their own food. not able to because they don't have access to land, we see families now pulling kids out of schools to try to make more make enough
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money to afford these are these new increased prices, which are just astronomical. so it's not as simple as saying we need to increase production to match this ah, to, to pre panoramic levels. it's about re adjusting the system in such a way that it is sustainable and that it actually works. ok, let me just bring in here in nairobi. another guess though is joining us on inside story, morris or younger, is the regional head of disaster risk management plan international. we saw young. oh, good. have you with us from nairobi. obviously, africa is always of africa is always a focal point when we start talking about food insecurity, all and the, and the, and the reasons for it be a drought or conflict. how is the problem being exacerbated these last few years to the position that you see right now? i'm it does, it does, it has really, really gotten was. busy because what we are we missing across the continent is
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4 consecutive failures in terms of rain. so we are seeing a situation where a strong conditions cannot re rejuvenate very quickly in the past. that broadside close used to be every 10. yes. but what we are, we're missing in that drought conditions of every 2 years. sometimes even every, every one year. and, and all these being assessable by drive. us like climate change, we are seeing this is going to be security driven by conflict. so it's really gotten lost in the last few. yes, you're very close to one of those conflict areas. we saw the issue of t grier being a high new story these last 12 months in ethiopia. we've seen in food insecurity in those areas. and in that,
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with within that part of the hold of africa, how much of a problem is conflict continuing to be? we see it in somalia with it in the don. issues in this, the hell region are all contributing to people having to move to migrate to find food and it's becoming more and more difficult the national suffering government to actually cater for that migration of people. yeah, that conflict is, is, is a major driver, but we should not forget the fact that climate is climate change is also significant. but at least all of these are lean because in i'll give you the example in us release conditions where that us, that the more us just strains, the more it becomes cause conflicts that are, that also get to get, get higher. so you are seeing the fusion, well the people fighting of us has passed just because what the conditions
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because communities moved from one area where there's no water into an area. busy or they think that is more water, and that's a lot of conflict in some of these communities because of scarcity in those areas. and that tells you that it's not dest country bit drive, but is something bigger. the driver is its climate induced requirement and the drivers things to do with climate change. so it's something bigger. we can focus on that now with the reza in nice because in recent weeks we've seen eastern india and northern bangladesh have a deluge of rain. the environment is being blamed or climate change is being blamed . but actually is an example of how quickly people's lives change within a matter of days and how it last that we're still seeing now there are areas flooded. patty feels inundated and it's going to take years, decades to get that into a recoverable position. yeah,
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i mean the issue is that the climate change and all these erratic weather situations that you're facing is serious problem. and you know, that is evident and i think it's not strange for anybody. but one thing that we was also concentrate and think about this is not all about food supply is about livelihood and is about, you know, people's being able to actually purchase food. and that is the other problem that we haven't been able to resolve people's purchasing power is diminishing their getting poorer, therefore the less and this also has to be addressed. and in fact, one of the drivers going back to your earlier question, why hunger was rising from 2015 wasn't so much the food wasn't available or supplies, were there training? they were not. and in fact, even today, production has reached pre koby level for some of the major cereals he probably are on a per capita level, but this population also increases. you would have expected,
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let's say perhaps, but use more or as our colleague just mention, use less for industrial use like a journal or animal feed and diverted to food world. those things are possibility. but honestly, that is not the big problem today. and perhaps the next few years, the big problem is people cannot afford it, even at the lower prices that they are now, they wouldn't be able to afford that, let alone what prices we have today, which is 3040 percent at the international level higher and probably at nor cal level something like twice as high as last year. so if they couldn't afford to buy the food last year, those prices. how would you expect them to buy this year or next year at current prices? this is a lot to do also the purchasing power as it does which supply. so now let me bring you in here because patching is a really big issue across europe at the moment. and for many people's person wallets that they go to the supermarket, because obviously, you know, the various food is manufactured and ends up in a supermarket or not. we're seeing a rise in food banks in places like the united kingdom across the us across you
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might say developed urban weston country these. so you have the food crisis, obviously in places like africa and south asia was produced in the field sold at local markets. and then you have any other extreme, you might say in the developed countries where it's just not available on the supermarket shelf, and people are resorting to food banks. i think if you, if we're very honest about this, we've seen inequality rise globally for the last decades we've seen, even in the middle of the cove at pandemic, when generally a great deal of people had their purchasing power hit enormously. their incomes disappear, their livelihoods disappear, and yet the super rich got even richer. and we honestly have a crisis on our hands in terms of distributing and redistributing those funds we've in europe and in, in the netherlands. in particular, we've chosen to start taxing labor significantly more than we chat than we tax production or them. we've taxed businesses or wet. so we need to reevaluate where
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and how we're distributing our wells. ah, which i think is fundamental to, to being able to access this food at the same time. we know that by shifting over to agricultural practices, we know that by including society into this food system that re establishing a relationship with nature, society and farmers. we can build a system and we, we've seen that system work in certain places where we've worked with it as, as action it, it increases all of those things. those things need to be included in that system. they can't be treated as separate issues. okay, let me just bring in then a morrissey, younger than in nairobi because in the not too distant future. and in a few days time, we're seeing the g 20 gather in indonesia. what sort of noises would you like to see from the you might say that the leaders of the economic world, in terms of trying to deal with the issues that you're facing on your continent.
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yeah, thank you very much. in fact, several points. one, if i just stick you, but we see significant emotional, especially in terms of gauss going to school of plan international. you're seeing a lot of protection concepts with children. one of the key messages that they can also mention here is investments in resilience, livelihoods, investments. because climate change is going to be those for a long time. we need to invest in climate at the titian program. we need to support communities to ensure that they can, how silly and livelihoods because the cycle of growth, as i've mentioned, the cycles of flooding, they're becoming more info from both of the. so if we don't invest in these is going to be really quite a staffing desktop on another point. as we, as planning, that's where we. busy see a lot of hunger across the,
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the african continental model, hunger grows even implicitly. katie, we have just launched, i read a lot and then organization so that people are dying as we speak. so there is also an important need in terms of humanity and that says, there's now a bill. reza, i've got a nice, i mean i know that you're agreeing with all of that, but obviously the decision makers will be in indonesia. they will be talking at barley, what, what would you like to hear them say? because you've been at these sorts of meetings on the periphery, you know how they act, you know, how to behave, you know what they're thinking. well, the thing is that you don't my previous job is 63 of the agriculture marketing information since then, which is the g 20 initiative i really, really urging all the g 20 members to sit around the table and have a real sincere discussion about food systems and the politics out of it, this was the purpose of amos market transparency and dialogue policy dialogue,
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nor the time done today. we need that dialogue to really be serious. and i think that people, politicians, for russia is a member. you is a member, the old g 20 countries. it really have to leave the war is a terrible thing and there has to be a solution for it. but there is also the food issue and the food issue. other colleagues mentioned a lot of the discussions we have today's about long term investment agriculture. that is absolutely true. but honestly, today we have an emergency and this emergency at least for today, for the next few weeks and months. it's something that can be, can be easily, easily sorted out as long as politicians agreed to sit around the table and talk sincerely one another about that issue and leave other things out of it. i really hope that amos and g 20 in particular, would be able to put this on his agenda and just try to achieve it. because honestly, if they don't, this will discredit not only do 20 but amos, which was for so long a pride of up to 20. so this is really,
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really important time. and i hope also that they make sure there are no expos restrictions by any country. at least those are members of the g 20. so that, you know, we at least don't add to the already very beautiful situations that the world is facing. well, we shall see what happens suddenly at the g 20 in the days ahead. for the moment i'm afraid we've got to end for this edition of inside story. i'm sure we will re visit the subject in not too distant future for the moment. nills relevant, announced morris are young. go in my ready be an update. reza amazon in nice gentlemen. thank you very much for joining me on this edition of the program and thank you for watching as well. you can watch program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion, go to while facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle. there is a j inside story for me. so rahman, on the inside story team here in doha, thank you for your time and your company the
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journey has begun. the fee for world cup is on its way to qatar. hook your travel package today. hello there, let start in south america and heavy rains in northern columbia have cause rivers to flood flooding homes. built along the banks over the next few days. the rain isn't falling as heavily here. it's more northern areas of brazil that will see the heavy rain and we've got some wet and windy weather sweeping into the northeast with some warnings out for thunderstorms. and by the time we get in for friday, well, it's going to be southern areas of brazil that see the rush of storms pulling out for the east. they feel a lot of warmth to. we found places like paraguay, if we have a look at the 3 day for us soon see on, well, well above average, that temperature, by the time we get to sunday 10 degrees and some sunny spells,
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it's cooler. however, down in the south, we got a weather system sweeping in said chalet, bringing the window wintery conditions to the andes and some welcome wet weather to places like a santiago. now, as we move to central america, it's not as wet as it has been from mexico. as that system pulls out further to cease dry conditions, particular up in the north west along that western coast. but we are going to see some more heavy rain moving to nicaragua, as well as costa rica and panama. it's looking dry of his bun, yolo, but there'll be sundry down pause for cuba on friday. official airline pitcher. ah, i'll just eat with o.

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