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commitment to anti colonialism and promotion of peace negotiations. he was praised for developing and gold as well which economy and attracting significant foreign investment. but some accused him of being a dictator and creating one of the most corrupt governments in africa. the former president began his political career as a member and fighter of the anti colonial movement, the popular movement for the liberation of in go low n p l. a after goal is independence from portugal in 1975. the centers became and callers 1st prime minister, he became president after the death of president augustine nato. in 1979. he tried to improve relations with the way, including the united states, which did not recognize the emperor lay lead government in the early 19 ninety's, he abandon marxist leninism, and ordered the what's called of cuban troops who had been in and go lessons. the late 19 seventies. after years of civil war in 1991, the santa signed a peace agreement with the national union for the total independence of kohler and
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agree to multi party elections. first. in 2016 the announced his plans to retire from politics. he was succeeded by m p l a. vice president lar. and so a year later, the main, he's up in the center, stepped down as dame 2019 and went into exile in spain. he only returned to the goal at once and 2021 before returning to barcelona. ah, hello adrian, get with you here in the headlines and i'll just hear a police centurylink 5 to guess a protest to de monte the resignation of president. go to bio roger packs and his government, they're angry about widespread shortages, including fuel. but l fernandez reports from colombo, the university students, and other members of the public who had congregated at one point which was one of
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the leading roads that leads to the president's house. and there's been a heavy, heavy security special task force presence obviously. and that was one of the barry kids that there was a sort of a confrontation between some of the protesters. but the, the come back if you like, was just completely over the top. ilan mask has confirmed that he's terminating his $44000000000.00 takeover of twitter. the tesla ceo's legal team since the company breached the deal. twitter says that it will su mosque to push through the agreement. a hearse carrying the body of the assassinated, former japanese prime minister, sions, obey as arrived that his residence in tokyo senior members of his liberal democratic party were there to pay their respects. i'll be, was gone down to the city of nora on friday. russia has vetoed a resolution at b, u and security council that sought to extend a deliveries to syrians in the last rebel hold. got rebel control region in the
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north west the you and his warning that closing the corridor via the bob. i'll how a border crossing could be catastrophic. the family of murdered al jazeera journalist shooting out our clay house called on the u. s. president to meet them on his visit to jerusalem next week. they want joe biden to order an, an f. b. i investigation into her death. sharon was shot by his really forces one on assignment in the occupied westbank in may. and those, the headlights that he's continues here on out is europe after inside story. next. on counting the cost, we ask what's the price of rebuilding ukraine and who are going to be the financial winners once the war is over? plus, hyperinflation is gripping zimbabwe. examined the unorthodox ways people are trying to protect their assets. counting the cost on al jazeera, a daring attack on a prison outside, a boucher again test nigeria,
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security. i sole claimed the ambush in which hundreds of prisoners were free. doesn't i? do you have the resources and capabilities to car violence by on route without assistance? this is insightful ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob madison. a brazen attack in a maximum security prison outside nigerian capital as laid bare the persistent struggles with insecurity. i suppose claimed responsibility for tuesdays jailbreak which freed more than $800.00 inmates. about $400.00 prisoners still on the run among them. several commanders of i sal unbuckle hara 2 arm groups that have been responsible for a series of attacks across nigeria. that's left people in the surrounding community and in the nearby capital,
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boucher afraid for their safety. it's also raising more doves about the government's capacity to deal with spiraling insecurity. i did it's reports from could j. hawthorne to say the operation to re arrest, escaped, convict. it's yielding reside. but it's the admission by the defense minister about iceland, bull, quorum commanders jailed here. that's shocked many nigeria is with says will number, we'll put on the tension. and then eventually with the statement is causing panic. because security assessments show urban areas have become targets for armed groups. the, there could be something big common. this could do that. something is anyone to have in to have it in asian, to ill at that we did muslim of security prison. that basically it looked, he does it godaddy's. rita, you opened up this ala didn't did. more than 870 inmates is keep doing. dozens of
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gunman armed with explosive rockets and guns stones. could your prison hundreds have been re arrested. last month nigeria more senior general announced a major attack on the capital, had been forwarded only for hazel to launch my 15 braid. it adds to existence, the guilty reds i just did nothing on robert, which i've been on the rise and with doesn't supply so quite as including the groups main bomb maker. now on the move people here asking the security office to step on the assault and could you present isn't the 1st many of the detention centers have been targeted in the past 5 years, resulting in hundreds of hardened criminals. goin free security analysts are worried that the could yet ike may not be the last. oh man, decrease al jazeera. could ye nigeria? you know the prisoners ac is the latest in a string of operations claimed by i sal and boca hot um in 2014 boca her. i'm
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a made headlines when it kidnapped more than 200 girls from the school and bono state. around a 100 of them are still missing. and 2017 fighters from the group ambushed and killed nearly 50 employees of nigerian national oil company in the lake charge region. both boca her arm and eyes will have targeted the nigerian military isis claimed responsibility for attacks of killed dozens of sold since 2015. and in april i saw bombed a market, reportedly selling alcohol in the northeast, and part of my state killing at least 30 people. ah. okay, let's bring in a guess from meadow gray bono, state ali under me as a senator for born or so nigeria from a boucher asia. yes. who is the founder of citizens hub? it's a non profit organization focusing on advocacy for financial literacy, and the increased participation of women and the youth in politics and from london . believable carting is a senior fellow on sub saharan africa,
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the tony blair institute for global change. thank you very much indeed for being with us. mr. mccarty, i'm going to start with you. this attack has been claimed by i soul and yet local media is saying it's the responsibility of book or her arm for those of us who are not or free with the complexity of the situation in nigeria. can you just briefly describe to us how these groups are, are playing out and what the intricacies are? sure, so yeah, the, the group that claimed responsibility is called the slam extent, west africa province. that is abbreviated as i swap. and there is no contradiction between that group claim and responsibility on local media in boca hm. because that group is one of the 3 functions of book o'hara. booker, her arm is a group that was formed in 2003, in may degree and went to war with the nigerian government in 2009. and since then, it has killed directly 35000 people,
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at least that 5000 people directly. and about 350000 people in directly through the poverty and humanitarian crisis that it created by display in 3500000 people across the lecture region. now this group that started as booker m, initially splintered twice in 2012, is splintered, and a group called and sudden must be in a few bladder student formed, which is now affiliated to al qaeda. and in 2016, it splintered again. and one group called islamic stead with uptake of province was recognized by ices, of course book ahem. itself pledge allegiance to isis in 2015, but the group broke into 2 in 2016 and one of the functions was recognized by iso. and that is the group that is to do called these law mixed with africa province. and so there is no contradiction. there are currently 3 different functions of book
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1 am operating in the north, east, north central, andy, north, our north western part of nigeria. and they are and saddle, i swap, and the one that is traditionally called walker. i am today. i say yes. so for why do you think this attack happened now? oh, the reason why this attacks are happening now and the other assets that we've seen it because so i sort of like lack of effective dealing with this whole insecurity. and so the territories are becoming more embolden and you're doing all sorts of things on get in a way of getting away we t i in march of this year, atria was attacked, and us citizens, well dr. and when do abducted? the terrorist mid, the minds of some of the people they wanted a prison are prisoners as well. and that didn't happen. and then what we have seen is they're coming out to our top
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a prison and 3. the are members that we were actually asking, did they happen series of attacks where nothing, nothing new thing not to be done by the nigerians. they and so the attorneys are becoming more important. let's not forget also that's why the top was waiting on at the center. we got the report of the article. we did prison. there was also our top on the protocol, the team as security in word i sent i had been because because then up in do in design by 2020. there was abduction of students and, and conquered up wishes income to nothing. and that happened the sender that the president had gone in to add to to visit his hometown, wishes and custom acted yet the territories did not. i did not stop the act the plan until went ahead to attack, thus bid and tickle with today and walk away with the 4 piece the where it
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dissected the at the end of the did the so they were returned back by the center or is why the commanded ship of the bed, right. people. thank you. that was all that in that sense. and thus it every think, it says that they have no, we got full full so our security agency, the feel they can't do anything i get to where we did. and sadly, the actually doing things on getting alan domains the fighting has been going on for years. why has the government not seemed able to be able to get a grip on this actually on there? so many reasons, and i want to say that i appreciate the run down given by sense of and t, that is exactly the historical perspective of what the events that took place. but this is a problem that is not conventional. and the insurgency is virtually something new or it has taken out. busy meant by surprise i even though it took
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a long time for it started in 2000. now you remember up to now we have not be able to completely deal with the situation. and the reason is basically because you are fighting morales, an unknown enemy that can dissolve into the populace without being pressed. so this is a different problem entirely or was that to say the nigerian government is facing and i'll osa agreed that no much, not so much attention have been really pains to the problem in getting it completely solved in the sense that whenever. 2 days a kind of success recorded or be able to subdue of the instances. then the government seemed to be reluctant. and then when incidence leg,
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but as is incidence, like the project has happens now already in the last 100 days. what happen in kaduna and a training from can do not 222, i will just put into some it. oh is that this criminals do these things and get away with it? up to now? nobody have been brought to boots. there is both one. sorry for interrupting you says otherwise, there was one. the one thing that i did want to put to you, sir, and there has been a growing suggestion, certainly amongst the media within nigeria. that one of the reasons why boca hot on another on groups are so successful at doing this is that either the, the governments and the, the, the military and the intelligence services are so aware that this problem is so large that they simply can't cope with it. and then choose not to do something about it. or there's an allegation that there are people either within the government all within the security services who are in some way complicit with
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vocal hot arm and the other on groups. what's your reaction to the allegations that that this could be happening simply because either people are turning a blind eye or people actually sympathize with it? who are in the security services or the government? i don't think i'll agree with neither of the 2. but what i'm trying to, what i believe is happening is that one, the government is not, or the army or the security i just is not used to this kind of problem. that is why so they cannot find easy solution to it is not like be conventional war. this is more and is not clearly defined as guerrilla war. that is 12, i will agree that this prolonged fight against insurgency may be beneficial to some people. so they really don't want it to end quickly, otherwise i don't understand why. for example,
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if an incident happen and then the government cannot say, call some people responsible and say get discriminant us within social time, there must be timeline in this operations. i've always been saying that called the security chiefs asked them to solve this problem with the specified time. and if there is anything they need, let them let did tell the government and the government should provide those resources, equipment and materials for them. but i wanted, forgive me, i want to bring in bama mccarty here because the point that, that ali and ami was making their i certainly the 1st one was that the, the military has not seen this kind of action before. given the fact that this has been going on for about 10 years, is that actually a reasonable argument that shouldn't have faith, that the military and the security forces have learned to adapt to what is happening in their country now after such a long time?
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no, i'm in the you are completely right. the military would be right to say we did not know how to fight this groups in the 1st 230 years of the crisis, but we are in the 12th or the 13th. yeah. today. and he started in 2009, and therefore, whichever military that is serious should have learned lessons and should have strategize and i come up. i developed a, i'm in a plan to tackle the crisis. and so i completely do not agree with the fact that with the idea that the military is to getting used to the crisis which has been going on for 13 years. but one thing i agree with in the senators i do mind is that this is corey law group and go to law group on with difficult to defeat because you are is to defeat them while there is to create enough stability and get enough media attention. that's how terrorism are walks and the government has been throwing a lot of money and equipment and logistic to this problem. the key problem for me
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is lack of coordination and synergy between and among security agencies. in nigeria, nigeria has over 17 security and law enforcement. and intelligence agencies, but each of them is operating in silos. none of them are cooperating, and watching and coordinating unseen advertising together and because they are pursuing different ah, i mean, because they are not cooperating. and some cases, some of them see others as rivals. these grooves are exploiting. the gap that is created in this policy are in this, in the, in this landscape. and unfortunately, the federal government, the office of the president in particular and the national security advisor have failed wolfley in bring in security agencies so that they can walk together. the 2nd thing is that state governments are also not united example i state government cousin as did government control and other states. each state men pursues its own
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policy. and some of these policies are some times inconsistent, even contradictory in some cases. and the only person benefiting from this inconsistency and contradiction. a lack of cooperation. i'm synergy is the terrorists. and therefore, what you need is a complete overhaul. complete review of nigeria, security infrastructure in a way that will bring all the security and law enforcement and intelligence agencies together so they can work together, pulled out of those is learn from each other and defeat these group. and i say a so for if i understand it correctly, one of the other points that ali and only was making was the fact that it is possible that this in some way is benefiting some people because the fight has been going on for so long. how concerning is it that there might be some people who are benefiting from this, who are not necessarily them within the groups themselves might be outside that why it's very concerned in what we have is this
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a lot of corruption lights going on and this has been going on with very long time . we've had situations where i saw just how rigid evans are the precedent. my very cheap until he does a lot of corruption entitlements as i've not been paid, the kind of equipment you're getting before the right kind of it should be good to you. and there are people who are subtle like i've been beaten for me don't. and i give it some add the former chief off, i mean, that was requested to have housing. what millions of dollars into by he was the procurement officer, nutrition during june, musicians before this particular administration. and then he became the chief war. i'm used out what the military would come out to things that he had nick funds and that's and so that might have just sort of like went away and there have been a lot of allegations of corruption amongst general. i'll be the kind of properties
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del owing and the fact that they're not. they're not given doubt all to, to this war against terrorism. i will find the question where jenna asked woken out . we'll have to sort of like mid the minds were the right thing to be done. i've been demoted. so yes, there are people what been in the ditch, whether it's directly or indirectly from this for to wrong. the bad the end of the day, the buck stops at the death of the of the precedent on command that she didn't know abstract, legit, leadership from that does why it's not a new was this night investment. how would the, what has changed and even do it again to do so just again to nigeria in $22009.00. but it has been all the parts of the what the, the going to do is to learn from what is happening in, in all these. if you can multiply this, what we talked intelligence, i now ask the question to be it does and, and, and that is, that is and we'll have information on nigeria right now about this escape an inmate
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. what is the no, but a call we are doing well, i wait. what, what do you call this number back there? is this the, you did the intelligence of i of the fight against terrorism? it doesn't seem to work. they mind urine, you read the intelligent agency on, they seem to have information when he comes to town and it never happened for me. it was already august in to have information when he comes up with that. and they never had their information when it comes to an attorney. as of these are some of the things that i really worried about about the 5 that we are not seeming to. we're not even at the winner. this what it is that the tories are getting, or perhaps i did becoming more and bullied every day. and that's not the way to being alinda me. i want to ask you about something that i, we had a report earlier from our correspondent ahmed address. and in that report, for some reason, he was talking to a few people who were on the streets of could a one of whom said that they were very concerned that something bigger was coming.
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how worried are you given the attack that we've seen encouraging and other attacks? how worried are you that actually this is just the prelude to something even larger . i'm very concerned, an owner jurors are very concerned because i border, which is this said the fidel capital is supposed to be one of the safest place. you can leave with a single j a border anywhere, but would do this development. now almost everybody is scared and it's very, very embarrassing. there isn't, nasa said encouraging. there was long enough security around it. there was no lied to me. it adequately. there was go. cctv cameras, i mean the personnel there are not grossly in underwent so when did not in the, the insurgence a maybe a large number a bit carried out that the her action and
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went away with it. so if they are not apprehended up to now and is one information at a good lead, then everybody have reason to be worried and scared. i is so for that tell me about how this decade or so of violence. and nigeria has been affecting communities, particularly families and the infrastructure health services and so on. it's been very, very debussy and it's been more so in the hinterlands. more in the rural areas where people are farmers, people have been killed, people have been displaced. most of the promise that we have in and you know what in the areas and most of them right now it's another person. and so this really i've been out of the country to have been a normal healing people have been killed and did was the being killed and everything we're just waiting. you don't know what the victim is, is going to be. and we flip every day,
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not knowing what are we going to be the next victim. and, and it seems, i think nothing it's, it's really been going on. i'll give you an example of that to help with a, sorry, i apologize. supposed to be the simple fact of 90 rush and it all people keep coming to out with the prayer region are coming to out who to go with the broken. and if you look at it now, the terrorists really wanted, i did give me large numbers. so they gave me like general, but i didn't lie, we have not had any report that he's doing. so what has happened after the attack? we don't even see anything that things to tell us that the government, the security agent is actually going after the terrorist and also trying to get the prisoners back and also, i guess, but the territories. and so we didn't see any good. that's good enough that then you did what did the online have been deployed?
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and so been, i did the light drones to be able to trace them isn't good, you know, was not locked down. you would expect that that particular day would be locked down . there will be dr. doss' search in a few hours. they go with the brought out images that we're asking. where are the images are good people to go have a place to file, see, and you're going to be able to call. so it's really been sort of the bus dating school. when i last, i'd be close lunch enough, be booked, i've lost the admins of night at night. didn't aid you out to day shot nasty, i'm brutish and it's when it's bad. this is not the way this is my will be as the was to be and is not my blaming anybody. still. the primary rule of government is that is the protection of life and property, and any government garcia's to protect the nice on properties of the 2nd is most it will be quite a guzman. and that's why we, i right now where it was there, gotten it ga gov, our god knows our quality and get people to i'm them says i want,
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i want to bring it. i want to bring in bullfighter go mccarty, just to, to wrap things up for the program. given the fact that there seems as though the infrastructure, particularly for the military, is not available within nigeria. what is the answer that would help the nigerian military insecurity? start to turn the tide against this. there are several things, the nigerian military as well as the federal government should do. i would just mention 3 of them. the 1st thing is for a proper comprehensive, clear gland and policy on how to, i mean, confronted this situation. and what you need to do is a plan that clearly spells out the role of the federal government that of the state government and those of the communities. because everyone at all hands what would have to be in deck. and the most important thing that is better chord nation. now that security and enforcement agencies are working in silos, you are never going to succeed in this war. the 2nd question at the 2nd issue is to
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flush out corruption in this curity sector. there are lots of money, a lot of money that has not been accounted for. the national security advisor, current national security advisor, him sold, has said publicly that billions of net uh what it was security have gone missing and there is no accountability. this attack has happened and i can, i can i to, i you, no one will be held responsible. and this is just one of the several prison briggs we have seen in nigeria in the last 2 years. in the law of a coffee, i am terribly sorry where i'm going to have to interrupt you there because i'm afraid time is against us. but i do appreciate you joining us and the program. i want to say thank you to all our guest sally and domain, i assure you, so for unbelievable coffee and thank you to your to for watching you can see the program again. any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that is facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle
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