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on the prime minister in the army, the air heavy with the scent, the floral tributes they've wrought, but also a sense of disbelief for the man who loomed so large over japanese life more than a decade. so suddenly, and violently gone. as the ceremony concluded, a herse containing obeys body, turned on to the streets, spontaneous applause and cries as mourners bid him farewell. the funeral quarters passed the officers of the liberal democratic party, which he led to 3 election pictures and a brief stop outside japan's diet. the parliament for lawmakers to pay their respects. finally, driving past the office of the prime minister that he occupied longer than any other. now leaving for the last time, tony chang altura took you. ah,
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look at the main stories this hour. now. international aid will continue to flow into serious last rabble held region, but only for another 6 months. as after weeks of disagreement, un security council did finally agree to extend the use of a corridor from turkey into syria. a mission for shipments along the passageway expired on monday. after rush of the turn attempt to renew the mandate for a year. and the aid is a lifeline for millions of people in italy, many of whom live in displacement camps. nasa james web space telescope is captured, a distinct signature of water on a distant planet. discovery is the most detailed of its kind to date or spectacular images of the early universe taken by the telescope have also been released and shall galaxies and stars about 13000000000 light years away. nasa says it's the deepest look into the cosmos ever captured and more images are expected to come. we are now going to be determining things that we don't
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even know what the questions are that we ought to ask. and so it's one of these great engineering feats, not just for us, but for humanity, for planet earth, for the citizens of planet earth. u. s. president joe biden says dealing with immigration is a challenge shed by his country and mexico together. and biden met with mexico's present under his manual as oper door at the white house on tuesday. biden says they've committed to infrastructure investments at the border. presidents are also discussing global challenges like climate change, energy, food, and regional security. ukrainian forces say they've destroyed the russian military, ammunition depot in the southern harrison region must go back to 30 say it was actually a fertilizer warehouse and at 7 civilians were killed in the attack summit near by residential buildings were also damaged. the stream is coming up next
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asking if that will be justice fest lane, journalist sharing apple applet. we'll have more news you later on. we back in about 25 minutes time. i'll see you then. bye for now. ah ah, i am at much habit dean and welcome to the stream. it's been 2 months since our colleague al jazeera journalist, shitty and ball player, was shot and killed by israeli forces while on assignment in janine 2 months,
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and still no accountability. the u. s. government's investigation into the palestinian americans. death has infuriated human rights advocates and left many wondering. will there ever be justice? joining me to discuss this in occupied east jerusalem. we have sharon's niece, lena block, lead joining us in ramallah in the occupied west bank, palestinian human rights advocate sala, his asi. and also in that i'm a law al jazeera correspondent nita ibrahim. ah, welcome everyone. thank you for joining us. and if you're watching us on youtube, i should say, we encourage you to join the conversation, leave your thoughts and questions, and our live chat, and we will try and address them during the discussion. lena, i have to start with you. the state department's statement contradicted the investigations by multiple media outlets are not only al jazeera sienna and the washington post the a p and the new york times, as well as international human rights groups. they started by proclaiming the origin of the bullet was inconclusive. and as you can see here,
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as spokesperson said, there is no reason to believe that this was intentional, but rather the result of tragic circumstances. we again offer our deepest condolences to the uh, block lay family, lena. how, how does this make you feel? this dismissive statement and the condolences attached well, 1st of all, thank you for having me on the show. and it's very important to note that we do not view this as an independent investigation as they are claiming it was near the review of israeli investigation details that we have never seen. and as a family, we are disappointed. and we were expecting that such an investigation would be, would be transparent and would actually hold the, hold them accountable, hold the perpetrators accountable. however, contrary to that, especially with regard to the unintentional gunfire,
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there has been inconsistencies and contradictions within their statement, especially following. the 4th of july, statement is on the 5th on 5th of july. during the press briefing, mister price was, was, can concede that, that nobody president was qualified enough to see that if it was intentional or not . so for us, we continue to believe that this entire investigation was not credible. and again, it continues to show the lack of transparency and evidence based responses. right. and, you know, you bring up what the spokesperson sat. i mean, they also said, very bizarre sort of justifications. when the criticisms emerge, that this was analytical and not scientific, which seems very bizarre. i mean, i need, i have to ask you to forensic tests themselves were performed. israeli police lab in jerusalem and the u. s. really only gave one can concession, right? when they said that it was likely responsible,
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israel was likely responsible with this in mind. i mean, what do you, what do you find is so problematic about statement? and what does it reveal to us about the us role? it reveals that the us would always stand by israel, even if the crimes committed by these weighty forces are being committed against an american citizen. it also reveals that they are so fixated on the issue of the bullet of the contradicting all the prestigious media outlets that have been conducting their own investigations. saying that it was clear that there was no palestinian shooting at the time when shooting was killed. so for palestinians, it seeing here as a broad, as a way for the us to show that it's going and currently doing an investigation and coming out with the result. but really that justice is not going to be, sir. not for sure. read enough for many,
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many palestinians were killed by israeli forces before city and are still being killed after her. and i appreciate that contacts because you bring up the palestinian perspective, how they're reacting to this. of course, it's not just palestinians and father, i want to get your thoughts on what a guy and i'd had to say he's the director of bit salem, the leading israeli human rights organization, which of course also contradicted the us statement and squarely placed the blame on israel, let's take a listen to how he describes the cycle of impunity and violence. i'm sad, an outrage to say that based on the vast experience, the odds for justice and accountability for the killing of sugar, nebraska, they are small as even existent. israel knows very well from past experience. as time passes and the tension rose on the rage subsides, people forget, and it becomes ever so easier for israel and to get away with beginnings
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and face no accountability. this has happened hundreds of times in the past. thus israel's in play has been successful before in looking at what has transpired over the last 2 months. it seems that it's going to be successful, unfortunately for israel, this time as well. oh, now, what do you make up? well 1st we're not gonna make it successful this time. we hope that surely in killing is a turning point when it comes to those impunity. but i agree with the guy 100 percent and it is easy for israel to get away with murder. in this case, system, the killing of indians, the killing of shitty and follows a pattern of stomach killing against palestinians. that is part of is your system of apartheid against palestinians. and israel enjoy this be impunity because of the
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u. s. and other western states that hold it to a different standard when it comes to international law, human rights and the rule of law. but israel is above the law. israel can get away with murder in plain sight. i mean, here we have a case where as you said, the numerous investigations by number of professional organizations, media and human rights forensic a, there are witnesses, jonas, who are eye witnesses to what happened. and yet we get the u. s. white washing with this ridiculous statement that comes out from the, from the state department. i mean, who was carrying out the investigation. you know, like the, and i was saying this is nothing dependent. the sunny portion is not effective. it's not transparent. it's nothing that palestinians or any investigation should, should be. it is simply a whitewash and there were no criminal prosecutors in there to kind of point to
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intent. you know, when you talk about intent, you're right. criminal prosecutors to be part of the team to really, you know, point and be able to show the evidence, look at the evidence that shows that we don't have that, that the u. s. s. c, which is the u. s. security. they need to right office in a responsive. yeah. no, no, no, no. yeah. it's all very important to have this context, right? because i think this is intentionally. we're going to talk about intention nowadays . meant to obfuscate meant to distract. i mean, not just the wording and the structure of the statement that has come under fire. it's also the fact that it was released on july 4th, a major holiday when a lot of you know, americans and the public in general is not paying attention. i want to ask you lena, because you treated statement by your family on july 4th. after the statement was made by the us state department, you said you will continue to call for justice accountability and that you want to meet with president biden. when he arrives, i believe tomorrow to israel. this is his 1st trip to the region since taking
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office. he's going to started in israel, a country that has been for lack of better word building, economic and political ties with its arab neighbors. and the agenda, or schedule or itinerary for those who may not know does not include any visit to any of the sort of flash points. whether so wine or, or massage it up by any of the areas and occupied west bank inside israel that are facing that are being oppressed and collectively punished. what do you want to say to president biden? and, and do you think he's going to meet with you? well, until today we haven't received any response from the us administration regarding a possible meeting. we are still waiting. i'm not sure if that's going to take place. but if we were to meet the present, i would reiterate that the master,
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as we stated in the letter, i also would like to hear what are their next steps, what the, what do they want to do? how do they want to hold israel accountable? and most importantly, i want to understand and get more information about their so called investigation and any other important details they have from forensic trone from forensic investigations, anything they've gained from the israeli investigation. we deserve to know. we deserve to have more detail on the killing of shooting. and also we would like to ask them to retract the statement they released on the 4th of july, which did nothing to add value. and lastly, we would also like to ask them to direct all their attention and efforts to, to allow the f to call and ask the i to actually carry out an independence to have them transparent investigation that is free from any political bias. and any
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political pressure, because at this point it is the by the administration has a choice. they can either support a meaningful effort for justice and accountability, or they can continue to perpetuate this cycle of israeli. impunity. yeah. because as i was there earlier, this is the result of the impunity and the accountability, the lack of accounts. and fortunately from where i'm sitting, it seems as though they've already made that choice. i do still appreciate your comments and want to put them to linda, anita, you know, we have the street from many israeli to follow this journalist and commentate is quoting here, saying president biden's visit to saudi arabia and israel. this week will be overshadowed by the absence of 2 journalists, unable to cover the events. jeremiah, has shoji and shooting a barclay. is it realistic to, to expect the state department or the by an administration to respond to any of the
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block families as we just heard from, from lynn as requests and concerns and demanding the retraction. for example, i mean where it can wear it, what's realistic in terms of trying to hold israel accountable, not just for shootings, murder, but for anything. i can tell you that past is do not trust that they us administration is going to be the one to deliver them justice. it's a chance for them to show to the world that the u. s. a dealing with will standards . let's imagine for a minute. if city in a block li herself was covering the ukraine, russia situation right now, she was killed by russian fire. immediate with the seeing the us hold russia countable, we would see the sanction. but because shooting herself was an american, palestinian was killed by ready forces fire. we're seeing multiple attempts to
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delay to deflect, to try and say, oh, we're not so sure. we don't know. it's a good clue. says it was a target the yeah. okay. you know, it wasn't in the brit. how do you know it was targeted? so it's for palestinians, realistically speaking, they're not expecting justice from the us administration, but they're not going to stop calling for it. right. and i want to talk about the geopolitical objectives, perhaps that are, that are demanding the choice by the u. s. government. i do want to ask you 1st of follow, you know, the statement didn't say ballistic experts determined that the bullet was badly damaged and there was a lot of focus on the bullet. as we've heard. it seems odd to me that they're focusing so much on the bullet in doing so. what are they choosing not to focus on deliberately deflecting from this accounts. the journalists were there on the scene of from the forensic analysis of the body. how the bullet storm where,
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what the angle, where is the number in the numerous investigations that we've got basically pointing to the direction that bullets came from. all of them saying that this is where israeli forces were stationed out. so it is making something that. ready is really not important for the center of the story and this is a deflection again, going back to this being whitewash and we expect to know if, if it was it us acting on the same standards, it would with other countries. luckily that was saying when it comes to russia, other countries, we would see a statement asking israel to name that soldier who shot up one of them. this is really what we want to see. a soldier israeli soldier shot that bullets. we want the soldier to be named, and we want that soldier to be a criminal prosecuted. we also want to know who gave the order to shoot a journalist. so as you know, it was a number of bullets that were fired towards joining us. not only one will attend,
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shouldn't, and number of and so how quick a quick follow up in israel has a long history of isolating its crimes from its settler colonial occupation. i mean, let's call things what they are. right. and it's, it's, it's the un, some could argue and have, you know, does that as well selectively, by choosing to focus on specific international law violations. sharon's murder, of course, deserves focus and attention, as we're hearing from lena and the family and others. and that's why we're talking about this, but we'd be doing ourselves a disservice to, as we heard from nevada ignore that. it's just one in a series of extra judicial killings of palestinian civilians who are targeted. so knowing all these facts, it seems like every single time, even when there is no doubt somehow doubt bowman said to defend the israeli narrative. what can tangibly be done to change this? i know you used to work at amnesty, which of course recently came out and said israel's in apartheid state. and yet
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still we hear the clamor. we hear the uproar and then somehow it died down. and. and that seems to be part of the israeli propaganda strategy. if you will, well, we hope that this year and with this is report that we have a turning point. we have a consensus now of from human rights organizations, international israeli and palestinian policies. we've been using the apartheid framework and saying, calling your support for many, many years. now we have a consensus that you and special offer to on the human ex, tuition and not by punishing the territories. also reach the termination that israel is perpetrating the crime against humanity of a part time. and that's explained this is, rose apartheid is based on fragmented palestinians. secretary segregating them and violently controlling them. this was asking them of property including land. yeah. and that pretty depriving them of social and comic rights and to maintain the system. if you allow me, israel system manager pumps, because we have dozens of understandings,
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including many children who are killed since the beginning of this year and thousands since the 1st and the father of the late 19 issues. all these killings are done without any form of justice. there's no one soldier, right? there was prosecuted for murder if the in the bus to get you know, a soldier to who are with manslaughter, but not murder or intention. and i need to, i, i see the sentence would be just appropriate to the crime. yes, no, and that's, that's the point i wanted to ask you about. i mean, you know, we're always having to, as a reporters covering this, not only tell the news and you're on the ground there, of course, doing that. i, but also, you know, kind of police, the sort of misinformation around this. the way the story is told. unfortunately, how has this affected you personally? i know that, you know, of course, sitting with a friend near that. but how is this affected your ability to continue to report on
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the worsening situation are facing palestinians? i know she was not just a friend, she was a mentor, she was an idol, she was someone we all looked up to and i don't think that we've had the time to grieve and to absorb the last that we've endured ever since she was killed. you know, we were starting to cover what happened. we wanted to counter the way the narrative that writer week sent the blame towards the palestinians. and we also had to cover other cases, other palestinians were killed. you know, we went to the family of santa who is here in a be to near, i'm a law who was a 17 year old going to school who was killed on the same day. she was killed and the family says that, you know, there's going to be impunity. we don't believe that israel and its soldiers are going to be held accountable. so for me,
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it's hard to tell you how her killing affected me because we didn't have the time to process it. we didn't have the time to think about that. i don't know the next time, you know, we go to jeanine or, and the army is there how we're going to react? on the one hand, i can tell you that we want to keep telling the story because this is what she wants us to do. yeah, on the other hand, do we want to be killed because we were the messenger that we are telling the world what's happening? so it's, it's hard for me to like, tell you exactly how it's affected my know, but i can tell you that our loss is huge. we are still coming to terms with our lives we're trying to weave. but we don't always have the luxury of me. i appreciate you framing it in that way. and lena, i want to ask you, i mean, you know, in terms of what can be done, we heard sala eloquently explain what the barriers are with the challenges are, but i know you want to talk to president biden. i know you want to draw attention
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to this, and that's why you're joining us today. but article 8 of the icpc charter. let's not forget that targeting war correspondents or journalists working in war zones or occupied territories by killing or physically assaulting them is a war crime. of course, israel has been shielded by work crimes, and unfortunately, washington and the u. s. has already rejected the international criminal court involvement in this case with that in mind. what do you hope can happen? who can hold israel accountable and yet justice for shooting? well, we would like to see the, i see see carrying gal can investigation the same enthusiasm that has been shown to ukraine should be also shown to palestine. again, palestine should not be an exception. neither shooting case should be an exception extra. the judicial killing extra judicial execution is a car is against international law. and as you think the targeting journalist is also a war crime. so we still call on the i c. c. we hope to see meaningful
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action being taken place and that they expedite the investigation. and on the other hand, as of time and the we are looking into every possible opportunities available to us and we will pursue all low all channels and all areas of accountability, whatever that might take us. and again, do you and also is another body that we will continue to call on to carry out an investigation and for the international community to take to take this seriously. and this is their, their role. also, some of you may remember that many people have been bringing attention to syrians case and also apply to palestinians in recent months. one of them, a palestinian student in georgetown university, raised the palestinian flag during her graduation ceremony in the presence of secretary blinking and even snob to him. if i scroll down and you can see right
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there, snubbed him after receiving it and refused to shake his hand. so a small consequence. but i highlight this because it seems like more of these things are happening anecdotally. and we also heard from neuron she sent us this video reacting to the us statement. take a listen. i think the american response to should ins murder, of course, is a business. it's toothless. it's apathetic, and frankly, it's everything. but american foreign policy has been towards palestinians for decades. the u. s. will never do anything to jeopardize its special relationship with israel, and that certainly includes accountability. but what's upsetting in this situation is that it's truly the bare minimum that's being asked for a basic recognition that this woman was murdered by israeli forces. and for an independent investigation to be carried out by someone other than the butcher responsible for her murder, which is israel. and we're not seeing any of that thought i had to worth mentioning
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that, you know, sharina was not the only palestinian american who was killed by israel, and she was neither the 1st journalist. i mean, here we have to lie on twitter saying israel killed at least 46 journalists. no one was held accountable whatsoever. why would the killing of a block they be different if you can in 2 sentences answer for us. might this be different this time given? who should in was yes, absolutely because it is a high profile case because she's all a prominent journalist because she is part of every palestinian home as was said before. and i must say, i mean the way forward is also the palestinians have been pointing to it since 2005 where they're called to boyd got divest from and sanction israel. and as they're called from the law, just civil society, coalitional palestinians. yeah. and so, yes, while you know, big states powerful states like the united states, the european states on the, i was going to still hold israel to the print standard. you want to come by to prouder knows yes,
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can give the pressure by ensuring that their local councils where they live is empty of his robes apartheid. their municipalities will not give contracts those rated companies. they're shrinking kids up. oh, thank you all that. yes, unfortunately, we have to and the conversation here today, but it's a conversation that we'll continue. thank you to our guests for taking part in this discussion. we give the final thought to noodle ham don, take a listen. the 1st thing i did when i arrived here to the occupied west point was to visit the offices in my mind to pay my respects to my lease colleague and friend shooting up our plan. and it was very emotional to go there. and instead of seeing her seeing countless pictures in her posters, flowers, her absences so strongly, and he told me to last week, i've been reporting all over the west bank and everywhere we call people stop and ask, oh, who do you work for? what are you filming? as soon as we tell them to see it and they say city and you know how much they love city. how devastating her last days she is. so love to hear. she was the voice of
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a people. she's very fondly remembered and people are still grieving her. it's hard to believe that she's gone by. it's very clear that her legacy will continue here forever. i think she means legacy will always be that she was a story teller and specifically a storyteller of the palestinian experience, which she did through her reporting. and what significant here is that she was telling the palestinian story while also living the palestinian story. and to me, that's always going to be her legacy. ah, ah denise, the hype of english people lies in illicit market for the rich and powerful i. one
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