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the power in dollars in fines, violators could also be arrested. more products are expected to be banned over the next few months. as india aims to become single use plastic free by the end of the 5 new met, the largest era, new delhi. 2 runners have been ejected from the world athletics championships in the u. s. state of oregon after being suspended for doping offences, kenyon, laurence to rona, was due to compete in the men's marathon on sunday. he tested positive for a band substance, used to treat chest pain. american sprinter, randall frost was lined up for the what 400 meter heats. and he was bound for allegedly temporary with the doping control process. a brewery in munich is urging its customers to pay for their beer with sunflower oil, because if a global shortage exports from ukraine on russia account for about 80 percent of the world, sunflower oil. and since the war started, it's been in short supply. so when
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a brewery and munich run out of cooking oil for their kitchen, it said customers could swap a leader of oil for a leader of their favorite brew. ah, hello again. the headlines on al jazeera, a summer heat wave has swept europe, sparking wildfires, and leading to hundreds of heat related debts from portugal agree sound. spain are among the worst hit countries. russian missile strikes have had a number of towns in ukraine. it follows a declaration from moscow that it was ramping up attacks in all operational areas. russia says its forces destroyed and arms factory in the city of guinea. pro alan fisher has more from keith. what it appears is that there's a war of attrition, a day helping in different parts of the country. in the south, you have the russians who are reinforcing their positions improving their security rearming, their soldiers there. that's all in preparation for what the ukrainian said would
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be. the movement of $1000000.00 man army towards re taking the so that, that claim is perhaps more aspirational than actual practical. but it means that the russians are taking up time by defending the positions they've gotten the so meanwhile, at the russians we are told, are preparing for an assault on the, the remaining part of lieut. hans, go to the region that they don't control, which would give them the entire control of the dorm bus region. a cargo plane operated by ukrainian airline has crashed near the greek city of karbala. serbian authorities say 8 people died in the crash. the plains reported to have been carrying tons of explosives, greeks as the flight was traveling from serbia to jordan. voting has begun and a local bi election and pakistan's punjab province, which could have national implications. prime minister shabbat serious muslim league is facing a challenge from the party of former pakistani leader emron khan, who was ousted in april. a vigils been held in sri lanka to remember those killed
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and political unrest. anger over the soaring cost of fuel food and medicine has led to months of anti government protests. u. s. president joe biden has arrived back in washington after a 4 day trip to the middle east. on saturday, he told a regional summit in saudi arabia, the u. s remains engaged in the region. those are the headlines on al jazeera up. next, it's inside story. thanks for watching. bye bye. for now, you boise heating up the airway lot of pennies. listen, actually, kimberly hale, but i really think in their own country shifting power they case the rise of citizen journalism has changed everything. how do happen? it happened on social media and the undeniable impact of the mainstream narrative. australians went to the hall with images front of mine is a war that is very much came forth out in the media as well as on the battlefield there listening post. dissect the media on al jazeera,
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resetting relations with royalty. the u. s. president has visited the kingdom he wants promised to make a pariah. joe biden says his trip to saudi arabia is worth the political cost. but what does he hope to gain? and does this visit pave the way to a new partnership with this region? this is inside store. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm burnett's 3 years ago, joe biden threatened to make saudi arabia pay the price for the killing of a journalist. now was the u. s. president? he's on a charm offensive. biden needs the kingdom to pump more oil to take the pressure of fuel prices. he is declared that significant business was accomplished in jetta on friday. but a positive developments from those meetings have been overshadowed by criticism,
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biden's visit to the kingdom and his interactions with the crown prince. our white house correspondent, kimberly haircut reports. us president joe biden arrived in saudi arabia to a subdued reception. what may have been because of his past comments about the kingdom. we run in fact make them pay the price and make them in fact, the pariah that they are applied. she made as a presidential candidate after a cia report suggested the saudi crown prince mohammed been salman, may have ordered the 2018 killing of journalist shemelle could, shall g. the president's goal is to reset relations and convinced the kingdom to pump. we're oil to bring down fuel prices in the united states. i'm doing all i can to increase of supply for the united states of america,
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which i expect to happen. but strain ties have made that a challenge, evident is biting. arrived at the saudi palace, offering the crown prince just a fist bump. a moment not well receive back in the united states. because shock geez, publisher. read ryan at the washington post, calling it shameful. delivering m b as the redemption he was desperately seeking and kashodi his fiance, warning biden, that the blood of any future victim will be on his hands. i'm sorry, she feels her way. i was straightforward. back then i was straight forward to day. basically said that he was not personally responsible for i was earlier biden's meeting with the crown prince. the press confronted both men drove off with all the dog i
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. this was the response of the crown prince. he appeared to smirk a serious question left unanswered with reporters. then i shirt out. kimberly hell kit al jazeera saudi arabia and the u. s. have a long standing strategic partnership. it dates back to 945. when the u. s. agreed to provide security to saudi rulers in exchange for access to oil reserves. in 973 in the israel palestine war. re out imposed an oil embargo on countries backing israel, including the u. s. in the ninety's during the gulf war against saddam hussein. saudi arabia served as a base for hundreds of thousands of american troops, but the 911 attacks were set back in relations. 15 of the 19 hijackers were sound it's. and then 4 years ago, the u. a sanction the kingdom in response to the murder of journalist or malika,
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shoghi ah let's bring in our guests in riyadh we have abdul aziz al garcia and he's a research fellow a project set that focusing on saudi foreign policy in washington d. c. doug bondo is a senior fellow at the cato institute on in london side, bel bashi is a managing partner at hardcastle advisory, a political consulting firm. welcome. so you all are jealous ease. i'll start with you 1st in read. what have the saudis got out of this? visit by by them pacifically. mohammad been salmon? well i, i would say good, good morning. good afternoon and good, good evening. well, all your viewers. i think they got a lot. i think, you know, one of the things that came about in the wake of the russian war on the ukraine was this notion that, of course, no matter how much people speak about an oil and moving away from oil or oil is
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still a very important commodity and by virtue or by definition than saudi arabia, still very important in not just an important player, but an important global player. and i think this is what has been achieved so far. so moreover, i think it asserted itself also as a regional player, was able to collect these players and, and therefore, you know, this speaks to a bit more on the saudi. it was a projection, i could say, of a saudi leadership still in the region. and we can see that from the, the statement coming out of the g. c. c plus summit. all right, duck, this is embarrassing the joe biden isn't having to go cabin hand to the saudis, but as i believe, he says, oil still masses. the president was rather desperate to try to find increased sources and oil production. but it does look like
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a major climbed down for him. and it certainly left a number of american analysts wondering which is the super bowl that the united states looks rather weak and submissive in a situation like this. it certainly is important that the president be able to point to some benefit in terms of oil production. because prices of oil and energy obviously are very important in the american people's minds with an election upcoming. but i think the image will be hard for him to escape. and his claim to be committed to human rights. i think he's taken a major beating and that will hurt him. among progressives in the democratic party, a special ok, zide, fist, or handshake. that was about the visuals, which had been, simon, was, it is saudi arabia, not a pariah anymore. well, i think the saudis definitely got more out more out of this than the americans. the
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issue is here is that the president was led by interest over values. this was very much a case of re alcholay seek and the u. s. just had to let it, it's interest to proceed what it believed. whether it's a come down like you just mentioned, i don't think so. i mean both sides were clean. what keen to kind of measure the optics of this way in advance and the, the meetings were very much administered beforehand. the cameras that were of that were out the speakers, et cetera. the president has been keen to say that this was mostly a visit to see the gcc with the regional countries and not a bilateral with the saudis. bill is ease the saudi arabia's foreign minister say foreign affairs allow joe by said that the killing of jamal shelby was a terrible mistake. but it's time the cuckoo 2 countries have moved on. is it time to move on? yes i, i absolutely think it is time to move on. and quite frankly,
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i think the both states have moved on, but there are still remained an element of frost eunice at that elite level. and i think you know, between joseph biden. and of course the crown prince, there was still that frost in this, and i still don't think that frost units will fall immediately. and i think as they've mentioned, and i think he mentioned it very well. the fact that joseph biden was trying to display his framing of the trip to saudi arabia, that this is not really about going to saudi arabia. this is actually going to meet the g, c, c states, d, c, c plus. this is about somehow israel and, you know, trying to make peace with israel and arab nations. i think that left a bitter taste in the side of the ruling elite mouse. and i, and i think you know, that is precisely why this falling at the elite level, i will take some time now. don't get clearly
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a little while. ok declared the white house new though would be a political cost to this meeting. but what was the alternative? well, they could have, for example, made an arrangement with venezuela to bring venezuelan oil back on. or if they had been acting no more quickly last year to really starting to go, she ations with the wrong one, could imagine bringing iranian oil on, you know, on the other is to recognize the amount of oil they are likely to get over the time frame. they're likely to get from saudi arabia. the emeralds. it's not clear to me is going to have a major impact on oil prices. the problem for the president is trying to frame this is going to see the gcc has believed by no one in washington. the co wage is a wonderful country, but that's not why the president went to meet with the a mere this was very clearly sold as a meeting with the saudis. and the fact the president emphasized so much the issue
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of oil. i think, you know, places it's hard for him to escape by pointing to israel and other issues which will make it harder for him. and there's great disappointment with him within some important sectors of his own party. and that might cut back on the electoral benefit that he's looking for will come to israel in a moment, but zion did the americans get anything out of this? yes, the commitment to pump oil blow increase it in the long term about. busy 13000000 barrels. is it going to be any significant difference for the u. s. in terms of oil prices on about increase pumping? no, i think it's more of a public relations victory. mid terms are on the horizon and the president's approval ratings are only slightly higher than what the very unpopular president trump's ratings were at the same time in his presidency. similarly, $600.00 barrels a day, extra that has been muted, is only a half just over half of global demand. so i don't think it's, it's huge in that respect. but you have come home say, you know, i've spoken to the saudis, i'm going to get the oil. that's almost
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a false narrative because essentially prices have been going down anyway for the last 30 days. and you know, in mid august we can expect the important psychological for dollar threshold, but what this is mostly about. and i think a lot of the commentators have missed in the, in the analysis of this is that the same administration that biden was a part of 4 years ago. lost a lot of ground in the region and elsewhere. and i think a lot about this trip is about making up that ground, especially from a geo political perspective, and not leaving this gaping wide vacuum for russia and china. a lot of a lot of these visit should be seen through that prism and the american defense bank catch up. and it's, it's not a bad idea. i mean, the integration of iraq into the why the gcc electricity network is a great, you know, step in that direction to kind of take it out of iran or bit slowly. but surely, iraq will obviously be at the summit today. but a lot of this is about g of politics because the u. s. is really last ground in the
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region and elsewhere as we've seen in eastern europe as well. and part of that is the obama administration, you know, the result of the obama administration and policies. ok, well, joe biden said when he addressed the meeting on saturday, he said washington's not walking away. we're not going to leave a vacuum to be filled by russia. china or iran, is he doing enough now to, to try to, to make men's to make good with the gulf states with saudi arabia, partners? well, i, i think, personally, he's saying the right things. and moreover, i think the united states administration's before have we said the right things. i don't necessarily think he said anything new the, you know, what we heard were a lot of statements that, of principles, of declarations and statements of, of principles. but you know, time will tell, i think that just expand upon what as i had mentioned,
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indeed there is this notion that there is this vacuum and i think it's been prominent in the past years, especially after the arab spring, et cetera. we're where people are talking about this idea of an american withdrawal . i personally don't think america is withdrawing to that extent. moreover, i think this is this kind of summit lent itself as an opportunity for both saudi arabia. the g. c. c plus and the united states to assert and reinforce that strategic partnership. so time will tell how, how this will develop. doug, if this a visit, as you suggested, sort of shows a diminishing of american power has though been successful for israel hasn't buttons a big friend of israel, and this has been a very good visit for israel. well yes, what this demonstrates is that support for israel politically in the u. s. is bipartisan. and while there is some shakiness on the democratic side with
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progressives who are much more interested in taking up the cause of our study and human rights. that among establishment democrats, y'all are very concerned about maintaining the commitment as well as the republican party. i mean, the problem is they're not in the short term that is certainly advantageous politically. the longer term i do think the question is what happens in israel is very important and it's going toward another election which will undoubtedly resolved in a result more to the right. and the question is, what happens to palestinians by some estimates are currently more errands between the jordan river and the mediterranean, the jews? so the question of how is real manages to be both democratic and jewish and to find some settlement for millions of people who are under occupation is very important issue. the could be explosive, and i don't think anything was bounced by this trip. the presidents made an effort,
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visited the west bank, but i don't think that was seen as very much by the palestinians. and i think that is an issue that has got to be addressed at some time. live granting ass base to south, to israel aircraft, to fly over saudi arabia. that's a boss, a prize for these railways, isn't it? not spots progress? it said it's a small step. it's a small step very well. probably a larger step for the region. it's also just recognizing what already happens via 3rd countries. there are of jews and palestinians that must perform the pilgrimage in saudi arabia. and there's a way for them to go. but is this some sort of pre cause of a blanket acceptance of the abraham accords? most definitely not. i think there are some decision makers in israel that we're able to, you know, move quite, quite well forward with the abraham records for very little in response on the palestinian question. the president made a fleeting visit to the west bank and he made the right noises. he wanted
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a palestinian state which was viable, independent sovereign, an important be contiguous. but those are just making the right noises. essentially, great progress needs to be made on that issue for, for, for, you know, a big step towards regional piece. so i don't think is where i got too much out of this. and again, like doug just said, which israel, the country has had 5 elections in 3 years. it's most likely going to move to the could. remarkably next in yahoo may even come back despite his tarnish legacy, which is a completely different israel that the world will be dealing with. and i think it's important to couch this visit within those circumstances was in israel election. many could keep us busy for many, many of the programs, but abdul aziz, do you think there is a chance of this visit will bring a. busy novelization ultimately in relations between israel and saudi arabia. no, i don't think so. and i think as you had mentioned that it is
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a very small step that has taken place more rover. i think in, or i think it's important to contextualize the step. you know, if we look back at the abraham accords, i think one of the things that can be taken away from it is that it has shifted the burden of concessions from israeli, from israeli concessions to the united states. in other words, now, one of the aspects that me, that are, is part of the calculation is not just to what extent is there great progress on the palestinian israeli issue. but also who is the right person in the white house? and i think quite frankly the, the, the abraham, the, i'm sorry, the fly over rice, as doug mentioned earlier, that it's very important for biden, to be on the side or to have the pro is really a contingencies in the united states. beyond, aside in the elections, therefore these old fly over right should be considered as
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a gesture. from the side you need to abide in and just say, listen, you go ahead, this is our just start to turn a new page. you can politicize this as you want, but in regards to norma isolation, there are still a lot of things that need to be done. and one of these things, as i mentioned earlier, as the right was the right person in the white house. and i don't think joe biden is the one. okay. that the cider willingly want to have as the person to have this massive achievement or a dog normalization of relations with israel. notwithstanding. does the u. s. need to build a new security umbrella in the middle east? that bridge, those include israel, egypt i'm the gulf states. well, certainly for an american standpoint, it would be helpful to have a balance of power in the region where it doesn't necessarily expect american military involvement for any particular, you know, contingency, you know,
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the american people are rather tired of medicine wars. so being able to tie together israel and the amorous and saudi arabia and presumably the other gcc members, you know, is an opportunity to help create some form of collective security with a significant military power. that is israel, that might be able to at least initially handle problems that arise with a somewhat lesser expectation of american involvement, or at least garrison's on station. so i think this has a potential security benefit for the united states to help stabilize the middle east without quite the same expectation of american involvement. that athene nodding a way that you see this is bringing security benefits to, to the u. s. and the region this meeting, i don't see it bringing it, but it has the potential to you will have heard the king of jordan's muted calls last week for a regional nato. that's a fantastic idea,
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especially in the context of an eventual us withdraw. you'll root, of course, recall the british withdraw east of suez, and for that to work for regional military lines to work. it must involve all parties including the iranians, the turks, the rate is much as nature brought together, the french and the germans, et cetera. without that, it could never work though the idea in principle is fantastic because these countries cannot continue to out source their security too far away. security partners. dog is a deliberate pivots of the u. s. back to the middle east. when once people would have called the gulf countries to look up to their own security, the u. s. seems to be coming back in, is that what you see? i wouldn't quite call it a pivot. i think this administration is still convinced that long term the us has to focus on china because china is the one country honor that we would call
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a potential peer competitor, you know, and equal economically at an equal militarily with extraordinary opportunities for military miss important region so it's going to have to concentrate ultimately on asia, but i think it wants to show the middle east, the middle east does not forgotten. and that the u. s. is able to pay attention to the middle east, even as it might make larger changes in its foreign policy. you know, it wants it. so it's friends in the region to recognize the us is not disappearing . that there may be changes in the future, but that doesn't mean a lack of interest or a lack of attention. ok, i analyses. i just want to talk a quickly, a little bit about yemen. one of the worlds, the worst humanitarian crisis, the world is seen. we have managed to have a 15 week long sci fi out of this. is this a, a positive that the americans can take out of this meeting? something they hope to prolong was well,
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given the saudis breelle desire to wend this conflict? well, i don't think it's just, i desire an benefit for the united states to continue. i think certainly the benefit in the main benefit that the united states and forgive me for being very pessimistic here, but is to claim the fact that it tried and it induced this particular kind of ceasefire. but i think, as you mentioned in your question, indeed for a very long time, saudi has trying to be tried to seek a any solution to the situation. and i think, you know, on the ground it at times, you know, that's very, is that very, very difficult. and so i think indeed this is welcome. and i think the fact that you know, a lot of people will try to continue, ah, expanding upon this development. because it's for the sake of the region either you know, and for the sake of a prosperous region. so indeed, you, we could expect a lot of politicization of this. we could expect
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a lot of people claiming that they induced this. but indeed, it is in the benefit of all people to see this cease fire, continue and long may it continue to lease or to a prosperous yemen. ok, charlotte, as we begin to wrap up zion, i just like to ask you to touch on something that doug mentioned the beginning of the program, this apparent a parents of american power diminishing. and do you see that when biden comes in, the mood of via biden's visit? does that suggest to you that america, faced with climbing research in china, faced with russia, is a diminished power in the region? i think diminishing as opposed to diminished. and what's extraordinary is the same administration that buys and was a part of previously was actually making its way away from energy dependency from the region. local fracking in the states had given the united states an opportunity to become less exposed as the saudis, quite smartly. now when you look back at it drove those factors out of the market
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and also fracking became environmentally controversial. the u. s. is now made itself more vulnerable to the international supplies. for example, those from the gulf. so from that perspective, i think it was not, it was not something that any american president expected to be doing. the broad long term trajectory was that the region was becoming less important for us decision makers. but now it seems to have research important in terms of a diminishing power. you only have to look at the increased military spending of china. what's interesting and the real highlights for me from this trip was the, the commitment to the global partnership for infrastructure. so that's the direct form of brinkman ship against the china and belt and rhode initiative, where the u. s. is trying to combat the influence that china has in developing countries. so it's trying to get itself out of the hold that it said ok we're out of time unfortunately. but thanks to our guest,
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