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a boat capsized in central pakistan is more than double to 50 local government officials. the vessel was overloaded when it sank in a river in said dick about district. days with headlines morning to be in half an hour. next it's inside story with mister c a. t a ah. hailey ac people are killed and tribal fighting and students blue nile days. the violence triggers protests and several cities. so what's behind the escalating tension and hazard arms? military takeover. worse than relations between tribes. this is inside school. ah,
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how do there and welcome to the program. i missed audio tape. now over the past week, so dawn has seen some of it's west tribal violence in years. at least 79 people have been killed and blue nile state close to the board with ethiopia, 200 others had been wounded. fighting between the button house, the tribes began on monday. this unrest as being blamed on issues including long running tribal disputes, land access and tensions with leaders in the sudanese capital cartoon view. now state governor has imposed the nighttime coffee band public gatherings for a month and soldiers have also been deployed to restore. com. heber morgan has moved this is a residential neighborhood into saras totality. incidence blue now state and it was a scene of fighting between members of the house, the tribe and members of other tribes overland dispute. we started over the weekend
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here in blue now state. now the how the tribes and several other ethnicities have been residing in blue, 9 for decades. but when the house of tribe tried to claim land for themselves, other tribes retaliated, and that has led to the killing of more than 80. and the displacement of more than 30000, according to the state ministry of health and 8 organizations. now the resulting violence here in blue now state has resulted in protest in various parts of the country, including the eastern states of the seller and the body of the southern states of white nile and the capital ha to him which on tuesday. so hundreds of members from the house, the community protesting voicing their anger against the violence that has resulted here in blue. now states, now bruno state is no stranger to violence. it's the scene of fighting between rebel forces and the government for decades now until a peace deal was signed in 2020. but the latest round of tribal clashes shows that even with the pcl find, there is a lot to be done for substitute ality and security to reach the state permanently.
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he will morgan alta 0 for inside story. while the arrest has trigon protests and neighboring states, people from the house, the tribe, set up barricades and set fire to government buildings there and casala house. a tribe members also demonstrated incidence capital cartoon. they say the military government has failed to keep tribal tensions under control. the army your call took over power last october. it up ended a transition to civilian rule. after former president, i'm out of the share was ousted in 2019 tribal violence has increased since then. once it on has a long history of communal violence. fighting has been going on for decades in the states and blue nile da, 4 and south quarter fun tribes, a force over land access as well as differences in political and military affiliations. the un was at least 145 people were killed last june. and elanda spears in the town of corvus and west and full and 2020 tribal leaders and the transitional government signed the job agreement for peace and food on it addressed
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land rights and political representation that progress on implementing that deal has been slow. the lead numbering and i guess in london we have glued carol, she is the founding director of conference advisory. that's a think tank based and cartoon in cartoon. we have mohammed alameda off man. he's a student, he's journalist covering conflict owns across the horn of africa. and in london is jillian lusk as to don analyst and also the chairperson of the society for the study of the su don's, i will welcome to you all. now obviously this is a very complex conflict within a very complex political situation. so there's plenty to pick a part here. now, jillian, i'm going to start with you because i know you've been working on see don andrew nile for many, many years now. so before we get to what's triggering this specific fighting this specific point, can you remind us of the drive as of conflicts that we've been seeing in the area for so long? well, i wouldn't say that now hosting or local conflict. in fact,
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it was very calm until broke out, but it's true that nationally, yes, there have been all kinds of conflicts, most of which people i talked to generally linked them to the government that they the regime wants to set them up. it suits the regime to haven't stability because it hasn't got a social and political base. this is the military ration that took power in the cur last october. and therefore it has to find some sources. but it's something to attract people, you know, people fill insecure. so they say, well maybe we should turn to the military, but also because it distracts people from pro testing about elect democracy, calling for human rights, justice piece, all the things, the repetition of 2019, sorry gillian, i want to press you on the history of nile though in the drive as
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a conflict that we're seeing that they have been land disputes. for instance, what have been in your mind, the big issues there. i think the main issue at the moment is that they, the house of people that you mentioned earlier have been in sit for about a century and they settled from west africa and flown in times. and a lot of them went to work on pumps, games, and agriculture state's. but they were never given certainly as nationality. and they were never kept land rights in the, in the traditional sense of what, what they call indigenous land. right? since they've done so that they could own private land themselves and somebody could buy a house or gardener from the tribe as such. didn't have access to that. and this has been stirred up now as an issue somehow it's a people have asked for land, right. and somebody else is stirring this up and making
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other ethnic groups, people from other ethnic groups, think that the house or have come to invade the land massage to say, given the country as in a very poor stage economic moment. people are hungry and it's very up conflict so well, given that there are the conflicts and all that stirring up that's going on. i want to bring in hollywood here. they're obviously a number of different explanations for what's happening in do not at the moment. and specifically, the timing of it. i'm curious because a lot of these dynamics also seem to be taking place away from the region, especially because a number of the groups who signs that 2020 piece agreement are viewed as having cited with the military and the current context. so hello. do you think that the job piece agreement has changed global politics on the ground and blue? now, is this the case of cartoon filtering down to the local level? there were undoubtedly the 2 piece agreement to set up a lot of conversations. and this is because it wasn't signed by all the groups as
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far as thought, it was only signed by the weaker, smaller groups who attracted to the idea of guessing the hands on a piece of the faith of the pie and the position and call to which has happened and then also the qu, last chin of tober was in part because we wanted to show the games which they had made to the peace agreement with a peace agreement, didn't do 2 things. one, it didn't make peace between the groups. if i can call and to please was made, read it between the heads of these groups and general and call to me was made anywhere near the local level. and so what you'll see now is the new from the station opening up in order to assert their rights and what they, they want from the states, including from those who signed the lease agreement. well, there are also these allegations that very powerful local leaders say in blue nile who are also wielding power in cartoon. stroking some of these tensions, perhaps even arming some of these local groups. mohammed, what do you make of that?
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you know, this additional tension between the farmers and but surely so no much seems to done is, is some, some traditional and old. and as when it's nick tension in sudan is some, some, all that been inherited by from the long civil war since with them. but what is happening now is kind of that, that can't, of the kind of she been the shaping the future of course, but she videoed between a lot of political needs and among they did, they did, they did look a little themselves because you see that is especially after the who that is the why, but it says ation of these look a leaders. so this is why the conflict is jumping from place to another because of the competition over sources, the competition of the power, the competition of how to ship this future. what does happen in this time is not
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normal cycle of tribal violence, the traditional tribal violence was done. and as you see, it moved from blue nile to cetera, within 3 days. and today there are why put it in to me as well. and the police have dispensed them. actually this is a problem and i did talk with but a distance from the house that i'm in. that's not what example. and they said that these brothers have been been jaded by some. busy from the secret at the, from the old regime affiliated. so we know that the base of the social economic problem is with the problems of the climate change, the problem of displacement. that was all, this is the background of the traditional complex needs to done. but what is happening after, in the, in the, in the post question period is the change of the balance of what have boost all these groups. especially the needs of these groups to compete over sources and,
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and, and, and power. and with the hands of the for money to deal with this, one of the security and fuel in this hint of his beach among the local communities that live together for hundreds of years for the in the groups or for the groups will camps without like the house, or should i go? they exist. so i want to bring in followed here again, because we are talking about groups and existing tensions, but also multiple actors, all of whom have different agendas, collude in your mind, all the individuals here who was stroking some of these tensions in these areas. chaotic sort of events at the moment then developing very quickly so it's very difficult to keep ahead of what credible reports and what on what is clearly coming out is that there are certain groups from culture and some have to pose the idea that it's general him etc, in the sovereign counsel,
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the deputy chairman of the southern council, who is possibly supporting will arming some of the groups, possibly the house, the in denial. there are also concerns that the head of the s p l and then i got a fraction malik. i got an integral role in sort of smoking divine and so he's bringing about the conditions for the vitamins in the decisions that were made by his governor in the state about the possibility of the house having a native administration type patient which is an informal tribal base representation and that was denied to them and this has been public, been given citizenship and they haven't been given a political take. do you have concerns that this conflict will, will broaden both in terms of area and actors here. i think that nationally depends on what the central government and culture wants it to spread or not. i mean at craig middle, i mean, said about the intervention of the government and also mentioned committee. the issue of land tenure was supposed to be tackled international conference. this
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is part of the piece agreement of 2020, but everybody mentioned earlier was supposed to be tackled international conference . and that the kind of issue of whether the house know who was alarmed rights would, would begin an end. and would of course have been part of that, but that didn't happen partly because of delays over other things, but then lots of course because of the code. so the military now has no interest in settling this issue. and the question of where the weapons come from is indeed a very personal question. i think identity, it's likely to be, you know, to just follow french rates here such because this isn't a cross border issue, a tool at this point. but of course, any tension near the border given that the has been tension between some of the question of the now waters in particular the dumb that's always
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a possibility. it makes it even more sensitive than it was already a little part of the peace agreement that we're talking about was also about integrating rebel forces into the army. and that obviously hasn't happened when talking about potentially arming different groups. it does seem that various groups across to down at the moment on a bit of a, a recruitment drive to try to grow their own political power as we see this impacts continuing in cartoon mohammed using that full so actually contributing to the violence that we're seeing is actually this, the compromises that made in between the continuous compromise and since 2019, which this job is examined was one of them actually one of these compromises the min compromise was between the military and civilian in general. so this had created a kind of hybrid government which is actually owned or give the upper hand for the
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money that he also that happen among the movements who actually divide the between the civilians and the military. so this agreement is, is not actually at this, the root causes of the problems. it's actually take into consideration the concern of the needs about how to of shit in the power between the leads of the liberal movement. and the lead that is actually, i want to take a look back at students that are our people over the past few years. now a long time neither am alba. she was removed back in 2019 a 3 year power sharing agreement was established with a bill, a 100 as prime minister. he had served for just over a year when the military arrested him seized power and quashed a protest against the takeover. he was reinstated, after finding a controversial deal with the military. now since then, the military has expanded its powers as we've been discussing. general facts, alba, hunger sworn in as the head of the ruling counsel and protest against military rule
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has been held nearly every week since october. while a lot has obviously been made of this divide. this rural been divide, especially when it comes to costume elite since you don coolard, how much support is there for these st. protests that we've seen and came across the rest of the country. the streets movement over the part of the movement has been very good at tapping into the co, concerned the people across the country. and oftentimes, you know, in very contrast to the authorities who haven't been able to do so. and so they have been able to maintain to a large degree, if you say weekly process, sometimes more than once a week since october of last year for me, that longevity and that ability to sustain a protest indicates to me that there is a large amount of support for the pro democracy movement sticky for the resistance committee, but are leaving the pro democracy movement. we have seen, for example, the latest process tap into the idea that we are all family rather than the
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divisive politics that have been playing out by the to top general general 100 general him at the over the age where we've seen gentle hon and driven, i'll states really speak to an arab identity and, and sense of sort of power that is inherent in that. and then we've seen general him at the, in the for so id of a sense of us as periphery with the periphery. finally, having it's time presumably through him and the new political party that he's having to, that's up for the device. the politics of the top, which we've already been watching as a sign that there with the, to general the ease with each other. despite their immediate interest, looks to be but burgeoning into a much broader issue and put them on myself, particularly sort of aware of this. and they have been trying to rally a sense of unity. but of course, with so much violence taking place right now. it's going to be quite difficult for them to, to achieve that as that without key changes at the top without their general being women, gillian, i'm curious about what you see as
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a potential path forward because the talks there were talks broken by the u. s. and saudi arabia, they've stopped, there was a movement by the un eguard and the african union, a process that seems to have also stalled. how do you try to negotiate years away forward when the revolutionary council to the people who are running the protest. and there's obviously a division within the pro democracy side when the revolutionary council is don't actually want to come to the table at all. i think one thing that strikes me very much at the moment is that many people on the outside non certain am i talking very much as if this was just a military government and therefore a deal can be done with that. that certain needs that i talked to, mostly one of the 1st things they say is that it's just the old regime that's come back the old islamist regime of the ship of the national congress party. that it's very well organized, very well funded, very determined. this is not just
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a few angry men, this is a structured organization and it still infiltrated its people back into the civil service and obviously into the military to the extent that they have left. this is because many of them were just that throughout the whole thing, throughout the revolution and rhetoric, young revolutionists have done absolutely amazing job with the hist for revolution to time. i'm in the world to learn from it. it really showed. but they haven't then not used to this kind of politics to institutional level. and the revolutionary committees which have a date on them office job searching up committees all over the country. and so i'm not really quick to deal with this very difficult the who who, who can because it's not just a question of the military saying ok, yes, we'll have democracy in general. go hand him his last 6 page code for election,
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but it's clear that they have every intention of controlling the elections and then they will present. this is a popular government that goes ahead. so i was, i do want to bring in 100 here because he's on the ground and talk to him and living with all of these forces as well as the day to day economic hardships that have also been exacerbated by the ukraine war. and obviously this is all building towards some kind of breaking point, but no one's really sure which way to go. so now how can you describe what the situation is like in khartoum at the moment for you now a day to day and of being able to access basic necessities. what happen in the good, i'm a hardship. so done since october 2021 is i'm but it's been did actually, you know, the student is suffering from the columbia cause she sees 2019 and earlier, but over this last year and, you know, it's, it's, it's believable,
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really of how the, the distribution is really hub, the prices are sort in too much in local markets. you know, there are the problems of the did it, it's the use for the, for the fuel. and so, and you see, you know, they did, they did it in the government actually failed to provide the basic and it's as it is for the people, the prices are like doubling many times the currency has been floated, but it's also day after day and i mean the decline and they have to be in front of the us dollar. so they did, they, did they secure at the event in 2, i mean, the personal security for everybody is really difficult and you
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know, what happened in the brief it, it says when of the country is also affected on the capital capital. because, you know, most of the consumers in sudan are in, i mean the consumers of the vista will, and whatever food needs is in the preference of the country and the consumers, i think, ok, so this is also affected on the price of the picked it on the security in, in sudan, and as you may know, that the website program said that 18000000 like 50 bit 40 bits, and this is the of the population in disco. you are hungry in the country. so and the, all of these, with the, with, with the reflection of the international food prices. it's also impact in the country too much. so, tuition and i do want this, i'm sure i do really want to look at how much is playing out outside cartoon as well. a food we've seen violence escalate,
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also in other parts of the country. we've been talking about a potential well, realistic governance vacuum that we've seen over the course of the last couple of years if the violence that we're seeing is being driven not only by economic hardship, but also by shifting alliance of within cartoon. given the trajectory of the country either way, should we be expecting more violence like this in other parts of the country? unfortunately, yes. seems like there is this regime, but we have right now, which is jillian has that is, are in every iteration of islam of military regime is not really interested in governing. we've seen that in there and inability to be able to pass for some of the economic crises and then to mitigate some of these security crises, what the chief interest seems to be is dividing and remaining in place. so with that governance vacuum in place, it seems that it's going to be ethnic tensions. land grab and storing up
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resources and accessing was also in order to create war chest for any upcoming confrontations. that seems to be sort of the state of play. and what that means, of course, is that we are very quickly hurtling toward a very militarized response to these crises that with the, including the climate crisis and the economic crises rather than the soldier in the transitional period, which is sort of using politics to solve some of these issues, rather than picking up guns, what we've seen with the way that the job a piece of them has brought in these rebel leaders into call to me and taking them away from constituencies. and in many ways, those constituents now feel that they've been neglected by these very needed. that's going to avail that space on you, rebel, lead us to pub. i'm who will say to these constituents, you know, i will now represent you and we're going to see far more into faces of conflict across these peripheral regions and gram outlook indeed. well, thank you to all of our guests followed fair mom at alameda,
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