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hello there and welcome to the program. i'm natasha tay. now, brisson will either have it's 3rd female prime minister, or it's 1st with south asian heritage this trust and wishes to knock one. the most votes from conservative m. p 's to take over from bar johnson with stepping down now after a series of scandals. the decision now rests with around 160000 party members. they have just over a month now to choose between trust the foreign secretary and to like who's a former chancellor of the exchequer. now both say they have what it takes to tackle record high inflation, boost the economy and when the next election, during the hot reports for richard liz will be the candidate going forward. the conservative party in peace have spoken. now grassroots members will decide with a former chancellor ritchie's tonight cor forum secretary liz trust should go on to

be party leader. and britons next prime minister. both the divisive characters, both have the experience of high office trust promises what she calls a truly conservative economic agenda, tax cuts and the hike indifferent spending by the past and who can go into number 10. i can hit go, i'm running and i can get things done. soon acts as he'll stabilize the economy, ease the cost of living crisis and when the next election. the question now for our members, who is the best person to defeat film or in the labor policy of the next election? i believe on the only candidate who can do that. and there's a further distinction between the 2 wild lease trust is seen as the candidate most likely to continue boris johnson's brand of populace politics. richie soon isn't popular in downing street where he's seen as having betrayed johnson, earning him the distrust of party members of poll. all of those very party members

who will elect the next prime minister suggests that list trust is far more likely to win than riches. who not before the focus shifted to a very public some a leadership campaign, there was a time for parliament to say goodbye to boris johnson at his final session at the dispatch box in prime minister questions. i do know the relationship between a prime minister and leader of the opposition is never easy. this one is prove no exception to the rule. but i would like to take this opportunity to wish him, his wife and his family, the best for the future. ad johnson had this advice for his successor number one, baker, for the american pick up for the ukrainian speak up of freedom and democracy everywhere . johnson's relatively short and near included, he said, restoring the use case, independence for europe and battling the pandemic. but then

a string of scandals brought his office into disrepute. speaker, i was like everybody here and how some of the baby johnson exited the house of commons to rousing applause. the next prime minister will be named on september the 5th, jonah, how l $20.00 london ah toilet. now bring in our guests in london, we have mergers saying he is a political commentator and also a form of special adviser to the u. k. home office. in done the scotland, leslie riddle, a journalist and the director of the nordic horizons thinktank and also in london, is jonathan lis, deputy director of the think tank. british influence a warm welcome to you all and thank you for joining us on inside story. now i want to start by taking a bit of a closer look at the 2 candidates because they're very similar in some ways, vastly different than others. now i believe both of them went to oxford. both of them studied philosophy, politics and economics says many and british government seem to have done,

and now they are both perceived as toria leads. but sooner i see despite being one of the richest men in britain has been trying to paint the story themselves as, as a british success story, the son of immigrants, someone who worked as a waste and the local indian restaurant when he was a teenager. mo, i'm curious, how is that narrative played within the policy? and he's played relatively well. people do like a good back story and there's been other candidates who made a really big thing about the family background, the values of the had growing up and they perhaps when from the u. k. but they came here. they have reason to really high office in government. i write the walls in the content to parties. i think people do like as long as then that you may, you can be translated into leadership. and what you will do when you add to the then become the find minister and the opportunities you would give to other people

that i think you said the purpose, but it does need to then trunk fractions. well, of course there has, in the meantime, i've been some controversy, i believe over his heiress wife tax status especially is they have what combined fortune of $730000000.00 pounds. that certainly hasn't helped perceptions of him being rich and out of touch. leslie, how much is that with him? well, i think it has heart enormously and it depends which people you're referring to here and judgment terms. because there's the wider public who might have one view of both the candidates. and indeed, the whole quite vicious, tory leadership campaign. but then the people who really matter are that 200000 tory membership who really quite a typical of the whole population. but still on social media, for example, over the last couple of days, there's been not big discussions about the debates on tax. but the observation that richie soon went to

a building site somewhere wearing prada shoes. why this should matter? who knows? but it's always just taken away at that point that he earns so much. another way of putting it, as you've just done, is that he actually earns more than the queen. now to a lot of people who value the monarchy, that just kind of feels wrong. so this will, he will always be on the back foot, all not one, no matter how often he gets his supporters to come in and talk endlessly about his life, his young life, living on top of a chemist pharmacy. show a speaking of his young life and his life now he would be the 1st prime minister, british prime minister of color if he wins, as we've been saying. now, i know he says his heritage is enormously important to him. he talks about during his childhood, going to temple one day and then in football matches the next. i know he's also spoken about how britain he feels has become more open and more integrated. jonathan, do you think race and ethnicity will play any kind of

a role in the vote here? the vote within the tory party itself? i think we need to acknowledge that there are some people passing to a membership. he might be less inclined to do not on account of race, but i think the majority of conservatives actually would be happy to buy him. i think the key points make care is that provided the candidate thinking, same anti immigration m sheets, which they all, all that were actually matter. the fundamental disconnect is the rich you see not made a great play about how his family as of came from somewhere else in this campaign video. but like all the other kansas he is promising to deport an migrants he'd come here across the channel and refugees, to rwanda. a policy which would have seemed complete extreme a few months ago and is now mainstream in concerts of policy. so i think that, you know, until the conservative party thinks about what it really,

really wants to do about immigration and multiculturalism. it doesn't actually matter the skin color of the people you convey my message. so i want to talk briefly here about brett's it. because both candidates did have different approaches. so soon as he was in rec city, he said he voted for a campaign for leave as well because he wanted to shake things up a bit and, and create space for change and trust. no, to be voted, remain, and then has since changed her mind. no. do you think that had certain, especially this idea that she could change her mind on big ticket policies in the future? well, it goes back to the point about who the audience is. so the membership is heavily supporting, so i think the trust has said that she credits that decision, and i think that is a me just reassuring them she does see the benefits of it and she will work to deliver that. but i don't think it too much because we've come to the point where

this argument was quite prevalent. the 2019 election. i think it's less though. now the, the, the progress that needs to be made issue the resolved and the know that i'm protocol, but the real issue facing you can moment is close to living and be economy. and i think that the boxes on the issues and it just feels that the breaks the argument is for me, asian. yes, she did, but remain as since then she has re calibrated, let's say, into a break. and i think she probably knows more about the remainder of the day, one of the biggest areas for british fighters who onto the south and who are in scotland has been this idea of scottish independence. and they've also reacted very strongly to what happened with breakfasts. now i understand liz spent part of her childhood in scotland. so let me, i'm wondering then, how is she viewed the particular around this issue of potential scottish independence? well, the old tory candidates have had a very,

sort of solid line of saying that no matter what mandate has given to the scottish government repeatedly, to hold a 2nd independence referendum and light of that brags that boat, which is the change in circumstance that that means essentially the 1st boat was held and false pretenses in many respects. they all hold the same line which is just know many commentators think that just keep saying no to a democratic process won't hold for long, but it's the position they all share. as far as her background is concerned, it's not really in her a lot of good. it's more the, the scotts just keep voting, not tory, and they half done. we have done for the best part of 100 years with a small exception in the 1950s. so whoever is a product of a tory leadership, the contest will not really go down very well here. just one other week saying about that. she talked when she was picked on by richie so not in the debates,

and he'd asked her, do you regret more being a remain supporter or a member of the liberals that live demons. she rounded on him and started to talk about her background and in scotland and saying how she'd become a conservative because she was so appalled by the low standard of education that she'd seen around her. well, that education for her was spent entirely during the period. margaret thought she was prime minister. so it hasn't taken people very long here to look at that and think, well what you actually saying? a lot of what she says seems very contradictory and seems sort of in the, in the heat of the moment and doesn't really seem to hold water the next moment. well, it's interesting. you mentioned that she was a member of the liberal democrats because she was raised in household by parents who as she described in her and what had left leaning politics. i believe she even protest of nuclear disarmament. she was even a republican and made statements to that effect when she was a teenager. how she mode you think actually managed to convince tories that she

tore through and through enough, yeah, i think she has internal polling. the auntie has shown that she's very, very popular with the members, being too many party conferences and the cues for then she's speaking much larger than anybody else is. so there is something about that does resonate with the members are and you know, part of part of that you reinvention and it's about being on a journey. and she said that she was on, but it's about $1.00 to $2.00 people. now when was and she can provide so i do think that members will be looking at her what she's saying she's doing in the next 6 weeks or so. well than what she did when she was a teenager. so speaking of timely solutions, she also obviously foreign secretary as a rather sensitive and not sure it's time for breath and the rest of the wow. does the war in ukraine do you think jonathan, how her case?

because it gives a perception of have says and more steady hand. there has been a lot of criticism of having a lightweight, so to speak. frankly, i think the crane war is going to have much impacts on the debate. and i have to say that it's much easier to be a warranty when you're not actually fox, you know, the same reset, of course johnston. oh, that's a nice city with the pledge assistance that the kids to send arms and, and they did that and they admittedly did that faster and faster than some other countries. but it was not some staggering feet. and there was a cheap in london and i think that any concerts elidah for that she was on the same any future concepts of the that will do the same as well. english trust is desperate. see 100 harness her to prove ukraine. pro bribes it credentials that does feel a little bit desperate on it also might but fire in the case that breaks down

a relation to the walls because that's not to get that is for a 2nd she she's actually threatened to break international law with c, a and the news on a protocol, which is the sense that the treaty person signed with the e. now if trust o c, not for that matter, i, they go 3 with odds as prime minister because the better still going 3 parliament. and that will invite a full scale trade with e in the cost of living crisis, that will be a catastrophe to britain's economy. and neither the kansas is prepared to admit thought will say what they can do about. i see you're agreeing there. leslie, how is this being perceived in parts of the u. k. outside of england, do you think, given the potential risks that it has for britain as a whole? what i think really people probably for across the whole united kingdom who are with that small, tiny, tiny band of people who have some say in this leadership contest, are just sitting back. somewhat amused a little bit. gast,

depending on their politics and realizing that the huge decision about the shape of britain to come is completely out of their hands because they will not be another general election quickly. since it's pretty evident the very probably the conservatives with losers. so we see this big reshaping happening. sometimes we're told that there's a great need for change. all the candidates are saying that despite the fact that the conservatives have been in charge for the last 12 years, so change from what their own policies or else we get the message that it's all about continuity. and it's, it's a very puzzling thing because if there has been a big change since 2019, the not manifesto that elected bars, johnson really doesn't hold anymore. you know, if you were really thinking about democracy, you might think about needs to have a fresh mandate. so really, i think a lot of people are just sitting, watching the machinations mechanisms and all of this chart and going on as if it is

a bit of a pantomime. but such an important one. when we've got everything to figure out, including adjustments, to take account of the massive heat that we've just experienced in person that shows that the climate crisis should be really tough of our thinking. there's nobody running government until september the 5th. well, as we watch that process take place right now, i want to look a little more at their chances more. we know that lives trust as you've been saying is the current favorites. but wish you soon, i one more consistent support from m p. 's and all the votes that we saw. so why is that? because i think he as the chancellor has had quite a lot to do with that bench m. p 's. when you're going to things like financial statements or the budget, you will engage with them be you will awesome. what kind of things they are looking for in their constituencies and you will build up patronage and you'll build up support. and i think he's been very good doing that. and i think the m p 's again

are different audience to the membership. and we'll be looking at very much more in the chamber with him seeing high perform the tweak suppressed. and you can take the fight to the opposition who is depressed and you can help when the next election and then be we'll have to go and sell him to the members as well. and they'll be hosp things around the country. and the members will then look at what do them the think and then also they won't be and they will be swayed by who is the best potential winning the next election can find that people are making the promises saying, would you say taxes? i'll do this, i'll do that. but even though in government you can do any of it is also in the members interest to like somebody you can win the next selection. of course, well the seems like a good time to take a look at just who will be actually costing balance ahead of that september 5th announcement. well, there are between 160200000 conservative party members. now,

research from 2018 suggests that more than half are older than 6097 percent of them are white, 71 percent are men and more than half of them live in london in the south of england, traditionally the richest parts of the u. k. so jonathan, let me put this question to you these most the elderly, mostly white, mostly men, seem to be more likely to prefer trust. why? because politics she's seen is ironically more of a tree believe from braxton into the convert as he said, she writes remains. i'm 16 or so she's touching radical tops cuts. ah, which made your seem more arkansas, this is the rich you see not and as we know, our memberships at parties often gets to the extremes. and that's not where i vote is my be in the country, the conservative postal guard school generally. but that's where elections are often wrong. and that's why membership votes and not always helpful for policy

because the membership might let some on. they won't let you, doesn't have the wide appeal in the country that that part you will need to win an election. and i don't think that the, the trust osi not is going to be particularly electable against labor the trust even less. so even sooner. well, let me ask that question about broad day support, because that is really the key question, right? who will be able to get the tories back into power and the next election, which i believe is due in january 2025. if an early election isn't cold, now, do you think, leslie, that either of these candidates would be able to rally the kind of support that we saw that johnson was able to do, especially amongst, usually labor versus especially in the north of england. will know in a word i may not, neither of them has whatever christmas boris johnson seems to be able to exercise on people. it would have to be said not in scotland where he's always been a vote loser. but that sort of bumptious. 3 yeah,

i thought boisterous booster ism that boris has brought with him to everything. and his ability to really call black white white black deny every difficulty that he find himself in with the the eloquence of someone you know to the manor born. all of that comes with boris, right? neither of the other 2 are quite that fluent or charming. less trust i would think must be quite an alarming prospect for m p. 's because she, she doesn't really perform very well and debate. and we've seen that that's partly why the debates were scrapped. but if they, if there's a business of being challenged by cure stormer out the dispatch box in the house of commons week after week, less trust seems to me to be someone who's likely to come on stock quite badly. now whether that matters, it's hard to know completely because clearly a lot of tory supporters will stick with her because of her politics and her

channeling of margaret thatcher, which seems to be her main claim to fame. but i think that's going to be a big problem if she goes ahead for, she's still not goes ahead. well, there's cares dharma, another professional, former director of public prosecutions and a lawyer. there's 2 slightly standoffish characters who neither of whom have thought old fashioned binds that boris brought to proceedings. so it's, it's all there for the, for the competition. so those 2 go ahead. while i want to talk very briefly about sacha, because she's do not says he plans to put into place that to write economic policies . and that is where the battle ground seems to lie. but margaret thatcher is also, as you suggested there, an icon phil is trust, even i believe, played the role of that. jen has school play in primary school. so as a member of the conservative party yourself, how would you differentiate their policies? well, it feels like the point to the moment is quite fashionable now to talk about tax

cuts and the economy. see, because one thing you can do quite quickly when you have 2 years or less towards the next general election. but i think the different, the risk to nike is trying to be a bit more realistic than people by saying, if you want back to more investment in the country that has been promised by 202019 as part of the so called leveling up agenda. improving conditions in the north midland, if you want to public services, these have to be paid or why something you consciously based on borrowing. so i'm with the state to inflation u. k times cuts at some point, but not right now, which is very different to what miss 1st and most of the other candidates have not been don't, was saying in terms of promising the tax cuts straight to way. so i think that will be the big dividing line, the other dividing lines we will see in the next few weeks. but we have to remember

that these 2 people will be to the most senior people in the boys, johnson government. and they as much as they are not trying to draw a bit of distance between themselves and him, they were hearts of what we saw happened in terms of timing up to him or not challenging him early enough. so looking for the dividing lines will be interesting because at the moment it's not really where they're going to come from. well, i do want to finish up with a very quick straw poll here. predictions and will obviously be holding you tightly to your pay care. so liz trust or which you do not, who's going to be the new pm, jonathan, you go fast trust. so if you're not at the moment, trust is the favorite, but i think there wants to to them start speaking in the debate to read. members, we'll, we'll start staring trust and my job, but i tell you thing that will be picking like the whole kid. because i just thing that he has a big part know presentation,

put them on big personal baggage as well with leslie trussel sooner. very little ready, got a 5, a 5 find best on rushes tonight, which, which i'm so i'm just going to hang in there with that one. and i'm going to was she as well? yes, he does have some issues, but also he's known for having helped a lot of people independently in spending lots of money to do so. and i think people will remember that as well going forward in terms of how creative and how that started can be. well, we'll see how, right you all are in the coming weeks. thank you to all of our guests know who's saying leslie rock and jonathan this and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again, any time by visiting our website out there a dot com. and for further discussion do go to our facebook page that's at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a inside story for me and the whole team here. and uh huh. ah

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