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i can say the 6 time former prime minister is partly responsible for the economic collapse of the country. those are the headlines this. how much more coming up later on? we'll have the news out. $2100.00 g m t to join us to join us for that. but the stream is program that starts now. ah ah hi avi. okay. on this episode of the stream, we are focusing on sudan as travel groups clash in the south of the country and protest is continue to campaign against the military leaders who sees power last
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year. could this arm rest spread to the rest of the country? it has been a while since we talked about to dan on the stream. so the comment section is right . have your comments, your questions, feel free to ask our panel. anything be part of today? shut? ah, i'll come back to hipaa. this rain at hulu are excellent. how odyssey, dan, have a, please introduce yourself to our internet of yours around the world, although they don't know who you are. i don't know what net, what they're watching, good to have you ever welcome. thank you for me. i'm here, morgan. ok, zeros correspondent covering this interesting country called sedan. good to have he misery. always great to have you on the street. please remind our audience around the world who you are and what you do. oh hi. my name is in sales by him. i'm from sedan normandy and the climate actor, mr. but though, so as sort of democratic traverse. and one of the young people who participated of
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course, inter lotion and trying to achieve their democratic country get to have her insight on today's program at hello. please introduce yourself dr. you as around the world . hello everyone. i'm hollowed here and i am political analyst and the head of a think tank in hot or cold confluence advisory. all right, thank you for being part of today. show you need know, reminder about how we got to where we are in sedans, current situation, but for the rest of us, his a short recap. let's do a quick timeline taking you back to april 2019. that was when amal alba share was overthrown in august of the same year, military and civilian factions agreed to share power. look how brought those small is our, our happy people were we fast forward to october of last year. when sedans, army seized power in a military coup, and then here we all right now in july,
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when i beg of violence in the blue. now stay here right now is in the blue now state, she's been reporting for out 0. i'm going to show you some of habits reporting but here, but can you give us just a brief idea of what spot those crashes in the southern part of c dad before we have more of your reporting? well, it's mostly the issue of tribal administrations now for people to know sedan, the issue of tribes in your administration in chief saying it's it's, it's quite significant. it's a source of power and it's been more so since 2019 because you know, like tribes have been given quite a lot of political significance. and they've been used by certain political groups and arm groups to try to show that they have more power and more influence in certain areas and places. so this whole thing here in blue now started with the fact that you know astro from what we understand being here on the ground is then
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the houses they wanted to have their own travel administration and for the tribes that are here. they've been here for centuries, they believe that the houses don't have that right. and then there was also a lot of incitement in a we've been seeing videos online, people saying that the houses should not be given land. they have no right of being here. and of that incitement, all of that anger intention just exploded. so to that that's, that's what we ended up seeing. you know, that bible clashes, homes being burned, shops being looted, people being killed and displaced. this has taken my when i have a look at him as reporting on the finance, it's been a wrapping in the blue. now state in see that has taken up this is la remains of a jelly up, the less home into down south eastern blue. now state his searching for any personal belongings he can salvage most were burned in fighting between members of his hammock tribe and the house on a sir dis,
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our lash at ohio. we were surprised on friday morning by members of the house of tribe attacking us. some burning prophecy, so we had to flee. my brother was killed and right here we found his body. heck to pieces, little now we homeless and the situation is really tough to know what alluded. i'm wondering, so he's got tribal conflict in the south. we've had recent violence in dar for we have protested, still protesting against against military leaders. oh is taking over from a very audit transitional process. do they all connect up? oh, are they just all separate, separate instances that are challenging the people sedan in their efforts to get a democratic leadership in place? they're absolutely all linked up. we saw a very significant spike in the levels of violence across the country since october of last year. so as you say,
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was so intense fighting breakout in parts of west for and going along to south for south could find blue. now you can almost trace this crescent light trajectory of violence from da for which will probably now speak to other parts of the country. has already spread to other parts of the country because it's hitler said the house, the group is that d landed group. they don't have tribal or group lands. and so they exist in many parts of the country. and this attack, what they see is an attack on them has led to protest and unrest where these house groups are in other parts of the country. so there's been this spreading of violence like wildfire. all of this is connected to the central politics of sedan because you know, the peace agreement of 2020, which was yes. done during made during the power sharing agreement. that was heavily supervised and controlled by the ministry component which is now in government. and that has thrown up all sorts of conversations and more importantly, the fact that these groups are being displaced is leading
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a lot of people to think that that is intentional. because these areas where these groups are all the way from the for all the way down to circle define and blue nile and in the east, these are the production areas. there is gold, there is geranium. under this very said, people are being displaced from and so people, some dues, think of it as a part of an economic enterprise of sudden interest groups in call to me and elsewhere. miss rain. yes. so i totally agree with hulu. dan heber, and let's not, not forget that demetrius trained to do anything to prove that their existence in power is very much needed and is the only way for peace and security, which is, of course, we know just that excuse for continuing this liquid situation of the government, i think one of the main problems that we are having and facing, sudan is the lack of governance in the local school of low. and, and that's what actually did the tribal leaders, they call them civil readers. but for me, we know that there are tribal leaders to actually have more influence and more
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power. and it doesn't need an expert are in disadvantaged context and interest in his history to know how much sensitivities to actually touch this tribal heroically and touched the, the, the, the tribe leader or the elders of, of the stripes. and this is exactly what the people did in order to influence and to burn more in conflicts in different areas. and not only by the way the house groups, other different ethnicities indifferent. ah, tribes have different problems in sudan. and all of these are exactly as good mission is impacted by the sent the absence of the central government and the central control in the country. in general. however, i'm just wondering how the current leadership is handling all of these multiple different issues at the same time as sudan is challenged in terms of finances and resources and just providing for its people.
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provision is quite low at the moment, isn't it? so there obviously is challenges in terms of providing the basic services that tracy was there, you know, proper schooling hospitals, those basic necessities that make up the state of the country. it's always been having challenges in terms of providing that ends even worse these days with the economic challenge and the fact that the donor a did that was supposed to be done or funding that what was to be given to data was suspended, following the military takeover now to this specific conflict hearing tonight, when we spoke to people and the military, when you hear both sides, they seem to be blaming the military for not acting past them. as you know, it started under 14, it could have been contained within ours. and obviously the military does have the power, right? we've seen that because we've seen them basically dispersing for testers. frontier
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gather them, fire live in munition grenade. so we know they have that ability, but here and i'll, you know, both. i say it took them too long to respond to them, days, not hours, days to respond. people were dying, products were being burned, people were being displaced and there was no reaction. so obviously they have different ways of handling different situations. and the question here is, why did they take so long to to, to try to contain this place or to try the parade, the, the people who are fighting the tribes that are fighting. and so people here are asking that question, you know, what is different, is it because they want to see this tribal conflict happening and they want that to happen and sure that exactly you know, so these questions are being asked here. i'm going to put to you, i'm yeah, night is me. let me, let me put this. i guess it is matt, matt, matt. okay. who we spoke to earlier and then you can pick up a meeting of it is, is the same line of thought. matt, who we spoke to earlier, had an idea about why conflict was happening in sudan and the involvement of the
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military leadership and people who have been supporting them. this is matt stary. i'm intrigued by your theory, but let's listen to map festival. i think it's really important that we characterize and what's taking place there as a latest consequence of a political logic. those govern sudan since independence. i'm, we're by security leads in cartoon securitized and, and exploit the resources from the peripheries in order to fat in their own pockets . i'm the coolest that came to power. after toppling the civilian administration. in october 2021. they have a applied and reinforced the same political logic, making them drivers of conflict in the peripheries. you think i had yes, as a, as we are speaking right now, one of our young people, or was killed or in her tomb in undermanned to be particular. or only
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a few hours ago and m as, as he been mentioned, this variation of the, of using the power of the government of the power of the guns is really earn not strange, but very obvious that they just want these conflicts to continue. and as they mentioned are also members of the sovereign council, the current sovereign council, who were actually members of some of the armed movements are the one who actually started this problem. so it's actually started by people who should be the lead of the communities and should be a seekers for peace and should be people who are actually advocating for the p security. um it's, it's very were obvious, as i mentioned also that the economic and burdens are very heavy on the, on the, on the citizens. i mean, the average average in weight off salaries is around 70 years burn month. yet
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the mostly expenses for a middle, a family is around 400 years are approximately. so the huge gap between the salary wades and between the m. i mean, the prices of the goods and the huge inflation rates that we have in these days. and of course, the stress from the political position where a lot of people think there is no way out because the military is on one side, the politicians on one side and there is no a light at the end of the tunnel. there is no way of currently they don't, don't see any way of people coming together and trying to move out from the situation yet young people are dying every day. and yet you come an insult or olders and our leaders. so i think it's a cultural, it's economical is political, the conflict that's happening right now in buena is just an exit small example of what's happening in sudan for the past that seeks to do to 8 moses lose. meanwhile,
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per pro democracy protest is all continuing and i want to get your take home on that. but 1st i'm going to go via a city that happened in her tomb. and this was just a few days ago in july because i'm looking at the tactics of the pro democracy protesters because we thought 2 months ago. and they still protesting. let's go to the sitting festival. i'm with mr. n. is the school for me, we're revolutionary, is created. a sit in is much better than confrontation out of it in there's a real upbringing for the revolutionary to say. and that took place in front of military institutions from april to july, 2019, actually created today's revolutionaries with their resilience and courage that are now present in the streets. the are a foundational component for the revolutionary and are necessary tool for peaceful resistance. how are these protests going generally they
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they certainly have stamina, the potential half stamina, all they make a difference. yeah. yeah. as they are, we saw these protests continue solidly, sometimes once or twice a week, sometimes more than that a week consistently since october of last year. since the morning of the to itself, that to me showed a very significant opposition to the status quo as the regime has it. and of course, we know that this regime is purely trying to survive. so regardless of what it says and recency, the head of the southern council made the statement that he was willing to hand over power to as a civilian government. we the unfortunate people, what he does on what his regime does on behalf of their interest does not follow that. so what we know is what the existing committees and pope democracy movement, particularly the streets, have been very sort of astute in deducing,
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is that actually there's a long way to go. and the more, the time proceeds, the more this regime is trying to re entrenched itself and bring about this restoration of bush's military machine just without pushing. and so we're seeing all the great thing fighting in the periphery. we're seeing christine's being targeted. we're seeing, you know, root of law being thrown out, the window was being protested, being killed. this feels very much like she is reading back. the old way of ruling haber go ahead. well, the thing is, you know, yes it's protested on the trees and yes, there been a lot of persistent that agree with about one, but there needs to be, i mean, you know, looking, looking at, but looking back at them history and looking at the, at the military records, as it always has to come from then and right now it's not you know, you but the military. on one side, you've got the paramilitary rapid support for the other side. you but the groups that are citing with the ministry on the 3rd hand over there. and then you've got
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the civilian from the other on the ford side and the other side of the equation. and then you've got the prototype and we've got a square. got a square foot pipe here. this is a hot equation, which is why we're doing this. everybody, you know, comments or questions on youtube. send them to actually send them to him. right now on, on youtube. you got comments? sorry, i'm just trying to keep up with our full points here. so this is complicated. go ahead here, but it says complicated bill, it's all forget, you know, purpose years regime to collapse or at least for temporarily there had to be changed from within and they have these conflicts happening to bravery. right now it's a tribal tribal conference we're seeing and therefore in fine and but it's not an armed conflict sort of put on arm conflicts. so this regime has, i would say a bit more lifeline than, than that machine reaching because there is no arm group that they're currently
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having to fight because all the fighting is now with them. it was a bit. it's a bigger challenge now to the workers movement back that and it was a the 2 big groups that didn't sign the piece agreement. you have the delay. i've been why, hey, then you have the spectrum app which are actually the biggest groups and that's why they didn't feel the needle, the pressure to join the peace agreement process in 2020. what you have right now is the weakest effective me rebel groups at the time, joining the so called peace process, which brought about no peace and isn't really much of a process or an agreement. so actually you do have 2 major verbal groups outside of the framework of this regime and they do pose a threat to this regime. what i think we will see more of its festival, more interfaces between different groups and groups. so that is a wash with small long what, what is the person in? so they, are they going to chat to each other? they're gonna join up with each other. what is, what does that mean?
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well, i think we will see some realignments, or there could be certain groups joining with each other. but we could also see new sort of zones of company as complex a new and new contestation be some aligned to be also be new compensations because things have changed thickly and that always case based competition which may have been equation unsolvable. let me just bring in one more thought here, and then i'll go straight back to you. mystery because we've been talking about the military leadership. so i want to bring in the head of the dance ruling solving cancel. because there are talks at the moment between various groups in sudan and then the military have taken themselves out of that theory of talks that's happening right now. and this was the reason why when you hear this misery and i really would like your, your response immediately off the back of it. here we go. or the room go another shot. well, if i call on the people, especially the youth,
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to add here to peace, everyone has the rights to express their opinion and your sacrifices are appreciated. and your hopes were democratic, transition off filled. your armed forces will not stand in the way and get out of them will all be well, we all know that this is a very hypocrite, a speech because for many years the military institute was part of the governing and a bars of the ruling component in sudan, which is a very bizarre situation, but because it stayed like this for a long time. now, the military thing that they are giving something that actually belong to them, which is power to the civilian. and that's why you had this attitude of we are going out you, i agree between yourselves and then come back. and it's is just funny in, in, in, for me it's not misleading, but it's actually leading us in the right direction. because getting the military
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out of the equation off, the government is actually the main request by all of these protesters in the street. yet albert han was actually gambling and he was that he was putting a lot of money in all of his eggs in one basket. which is that the civilian will not agree any time soon. and i think this is a very, a dangerous perception. yet it might be true if a minute a politicians and i different groups did not actually reach a formula where and delivering the power back to civilian is possible. actually have a go ahead but no agreement here. like let's not forget that. yes, it looks like go away forward because obviously it's clear to that to, to the particle right now with what they want on. ready dawn, but then again, political groups have always had their differences, right. you know where we're talking about civilian groups and it's divided into 2
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camps, right? you have what han mal, who has stepped out of these talks and they're currently suspended, but you also have a site that supported the military takeover that of actually called for the military takeover. so it's not like, you know, the military is completely out of equation. they're out physically, but they have their allies. so it's like a proxy presence right now. so yeah, it is still a complicated equation and yeah, yeah, thank you. i will have a good at math and so it's a, it's, it's interesting having you unpack this for us as one more, one more voice i want to include in our conversation. this one comes from palau out, hello, excuse me. am because you hear about the pro democracy protest is what they want. the, the different factions amongst the protesters, but hell out very clearly explained what her issue and i felt i purchased as a, she's actually all with the current leadership. this is what she told us, that he, i don't mean our presence in the broadest movement. we've then agenda
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and i. ringback understanding that this is an exist and she'll tell them that they understand or that they come outside. they cannot exist peacefully with our eyes and medicine. islam garment that's currently taking on controlling that can see. and we have already seen how the supplies and swimming is extremely elating across the country. only a few weeks ago, a young woman has been sentenced to this vice tony. this is a guy of government that apparently we are struggling against. as we may activist watching, our discussion has been hyper bow. what should be done to bring more stability to sedan hyper bo arts as their own question. they need to 1st identify themselves as a country rather than tribes. another comment, a solution, political education,
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being realistic about power blocks is unrealistic to create ideas because sudan has so much to lose. and currently there's chaos. one more from i men, the better solution is to divide the country to federal states and every state has its own parliament. how would they even work now, amalgam of the youtube viewers? i, i'm just curious from you, allude what it is like an eunice reign, and just in a sentence, if you kick us at the very end of the show, as somebody who is from sudan to see this as your country, just a personal view in a sentence hello, you go 1st. i think sedan is re making it state, and i think the crew has always been the vehicle for the largest type of, of political changes. so i think with the pro maximum needs to hold steady, the changes are coming. thank you. in this ring, a person of his and on yeah, i just want to build on what would mention the problem and the question is at what
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cost? and when the change is coming, this is the 2 questions that we are trying to actually have a balance between what is actually costing us right now to do this, but of this way. and is it the best way to do it or not israel, hulu. and haver thank you so much for your analysis, having us to understand a very complicated equation of what's happening in sudan right now. thanks to watching. i see next time. ah ah. and the chips and dr. trailing and britain in the 1980s, shocked by famine,
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