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the fire workers, there are fighting the fire now for already a days bad now. so a lot of help from local locos and all saw from the people all our slovenia o v x baghdad. this far will continue for at least couple of days for now. there were no casualties at all. there are some houses, one house that is being burned, but for now, the one of the main problem is all saw. the wind reaches complicating the situation . animals at a zoo in china, the scoring jo city are playing it cool with a heat wave sweeping across the reach and giant pandas had been given blocks of ice to play with zoo keepers. of also installed fans around trees to keep away the heat and co allah's bears and hippos and tape is a being said watermelon to keep them hydrated in the southern hemisphere. course it's winter, some spectacular pictures here from australia. this is city of course,
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shrouded in early morning fog, or some were able to enjoy the view others face traveled to lays at the cities at port. the fog eventually cleared by mid morning. ah, it's good to be with us. hello, adrian, sorta get here. and so how the headlines on al jazeera be on us military john to as executed for pro democracy activists. it wants believe to be the 1st use of capital punishment indicates the you and the special reporter has called it a depraved act. tardy chang is following developments. from bangkok, the announcement was made on state media 1st thing this morning that the sentence them 2 sentences themselves had been handed down early earlier in the year. co jimmy the, the prominent pro democracy activist who's already spent 15 years in jail was sentenced in january. a jawed day at hor, the other prominent l d. politician was sentenced in april. both had had appeals
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against the death penalty appeals which had been dismissed in the summer. but i think there was an assumption here in melma. and beyond that, while the death sentence had been handed down, as it has been at various points in the last couple of decades, that it wouldn't that the, the military government and carry through putting stations were opening in to this year for a votes on a draft constitution which opponents criticize as an attempt to return to one man rule president chi psi. it said that his changes have been necessary to rein in a corrupt political elite. the president of the philippines voted on marco's julia has to live at his 1st state of the nation address. macos julia used his speech to promised tax reform that he says will bring more money to the masses. india has sworn in its 15th president to the high profile event in new delhi to potty mo, mo is the 2nd woman and 1st person from a tribal community to hold the ceremonial role. po process is in canada to
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apologize in person for the role. the church played in running schools for indigenous children. he's in the city of edmonton forties, calling his pilgrimage of penance. a launch wild far in california is spreading towards yosemite national park. the oak fire started on friday. i was burnt through more than 6000 hector as of land. thousands of people have had to flee the homes. and those were headlines that he's continues here on al jazeera after today's inside story. coming up next. ah, south africa is heading for its own version of the arab spring. last the warning from former president turbo and becky,
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he says current head of state several run. the poser has fail to tackle poverty, unemployment, and inequality. it's a rare attack by becky on the leadership of the governing african national congress . why is he speaking up now? this is inside still. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm burnett's. it was an unprecedented outspoken attack on his own party and its lead. tarboe becky warner, that one day south africa is going to explode. the former president was speaking at a memorial for a veteran member of the have governing african national congress. becky, who in 1999 succeeded nelson mandela the 1st democratically. ready elected
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president warned, of widespread civil unrest comparable to the arab spring. he says south africa is facing unsustainable levels of poverty and unemployment and blames current. president 0 ram, oppose, and his government failing to address a legacy of a party. you can't have so many peoples unemployment. so many people or people faced with his law listeners, i'm talking about seized with a leather soup into which a bit he says, agency people, one after another are called corrupt wendy, is going to explode from a poser is a form of freedom fighter who was once jailed by their party government. he took office in 2018, succeeding jacob zimmer, whose term was mired by scandals. corruption, mismanagement of millions of dollars in tax payers. money from a pose as presidency,
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has faced several challenges. his response to the coven 19 pandemic was applauded. but his party was accused of mishandling millions of dollars in relief funds. most recently, he is embroiled in a scandal known as farm gate, from oppose it is accused of corruption in connection with the theft of around $4000000.00 in cash from his farm. with a criminal complaint filed against him for alleged money laundering, kidnapping, and the concealing of a crime. ah, well, let's now go to our guests all in south africa in durban, dakota, la, where tease the a and see national spokesman in cape town, we have mercy, my mani. he's a founder of these one south africa movement on a former leader of south africa opposition. and in johannesburg, william mayday is an associate professor at the school of governments at the university of whit waters round. thank you all for joining us. can i ask you 1st dakota is tarboe and becky, right. when he says south africa's ready to explode?
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no good german babies. she does a 3rd is no government but loosened system. so with this girl a girl, she rides. busy for today a good just said is, oh, don't say it's d n 2 days. so why don't a less did you manage it or move press that's great. strong. ok, thank you. ok. so let's see. what do you think south africa are ready to explode? isn't baker? says certainly i hold the view that the n c, like any of the liberation movement, have come to
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a point where they've mismanaged the economy, leading lines and lines of unemployed south africans law. literally, we live in a country where the majority of citizens are living below the poverty line. and youth unemployment now constitutes close to about 2 thirds or 2 thirds of young people get cannot find a job. so given those fits of circumstances without the prospects of tomorrow prison, ambiguous correct in the summation than south africa's facing an explosion. where would urged william to go further? is the reasons that come through that have been part of his own party, that mismanagement of economic infrastructure. and ultimately the lack of policy direction amongst the government has brought us to this particular point. william, what do you think has prompted tub and becky to speak out now? i think, you know, we look at our environment. speaker compare where you know the speak to you know the months ahead of the out of things because exactly the same environment. now,
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i'm going to 1st thing of really a failure, testified f estates to deliver to the social order breakdown in the come see, nor a rule of law and order a breakdown. and then combined with the biggest financial crisis inside africa in generations course, of course, by the carbon, the financial crisis mine to the latest hundreds of crisis. and now the impacts of their loss are ukraine will. and any related with that mismanagement of the states . and there's management companies, it economy by your combined tax, and then you know, i'm high, the highest levels of unemployment recorded in any other emerging market. and then you combine it with something else. and there's something else that recombines south africa, really, if you have an elite who's in charge, but who seems to be not have the idea or seems to be socially destined looking the bubble, who seems not to understand what's happening because the social distance between
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a company party and the 2 leaves, an ordinary citizens will struggle with struggling, you know, as to why. and so there's a responsiveness from the companies and then the internet is also out against a, by daily. so what happens then if you've got that, it's really an explosive situation, particularly also when a company party try to continue as business as you. so in the biggest crisis, certainly in loving memory on a rescinded last last week, for example, an interest rates were where you please, you know, across the economy to state has been increasing rates and services. but yet, the state is not in dakota, william that talks about an elite living in a bubble. a bubble has the a n c. last, the conference of south africans is it, does it lead? not understand what needs to be done as you've been empowered for too long. good.
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no. is see. it says there's no dances on its own fixes the causal to live streaming on the seas. not much on this. busy as well as in nancy faucet, that's great, but it was easy grocery defending against, defend up in this our existing and, you know, said our builds it's, it's in terms of national, engaged in the country and nice african national congress is the kind of them, it's something lead in see to at least of us. oh, we're not china. wish we are not lead jenny? was jim. yeah. would. susie mountie a or reach of national sheets?
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any matter of nationalist when sees nozzle over? so nothing and michelle in nissan to see is little we're all on miss we. we are lady so rich lily group, lesson plans that we're going to find a better load on south africans and all of humanity and grandkids, always. thank mercy dakota there, defends the legacy of the a and c. acknowledge is its weaknesses, but you are, i'm a poser should resign. but would that make any difference in the current circumstance? well, it would start the direction of the country in the right way. i think president obama, us and his government have proven that there, and i think we need a fresh reset in south africa. a new government that is led by competence as africans was, focuses on the future of this country. the key failures unjust in economic
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mismanagement. the n c in and of itself is delivering a situation where 80 percent of our learners in this country are r i n schools that are dysfunctional. which means that the long term trajectory of south africa's art furthermore, that it's the same in c, that's allowed corruption. to thrive sidney under prison zoom, and it has continued under president who he himself has now been allegedly been embroiled in so what it never emerges out of the new leadership that da, mr. cortez talking about self connection will be a compromise to preserve status quo and lead no one to jail. so if you really want to reset style africa, we need a new leadership when a new quote edition. and we need an economic vision that says, how can south africa not only intra trade with in africa, but compete globally with other markets in recovery to a post called with universe. and furthermore, to ensuring that youth unemployment does not become the trend. william, after the well documented rampant corruption of the, of the zoom,
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a year's ram oppose it was supposed to be a new broom, wasn't a what's, what's gone wrong. i think, you know, very sad because do not understand that you know, the corrections i did is jacob's president, she was systemic. i mean, you know, there was a corruption not having to states cross enough policy is cross and rhetoric of ideas. you know, procurements or sort of corruption of the policy of the governing party. now normally a society is once you get that kind of systemic corruption and jacobs was there for 10, almost decades. we call it, you know, the last decades it takes at least not a 10. yes. to get back to where he, sponsors, and that's normally, you know, we, i, certain kind of. so it's i to looking at as a comparison of developing countries and you know, how they go out of production of, in, according to corruption, how long it takes to get out of it. so if you look at african situation, you know,
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some african grayson lucas is independence. not at the moment. you know, if it comes to spend 5 or 10? yes. systemic caracas apart. you think it takes about $10.00 to $2.00, even some cases. 20. yes. and then of course, i've seen some countries, i'm never gotten out of the corruption where the buck where i'm so you can't get out of the states if the company is still there. so what we need, we need a step down actually off the governing party. i get new people to come in. i mean that's really the only way to renew the country. the state of the society countries, our culture, dakota, not much confidence from of a guests in the agencies capability to manage this. we've had the final findings of the 3 year inquire into state capture present, said it revealed endemic corruptions. we've talked about rama poses promise to plan to implement the reports, recommendations in 4 months time, because the agency realized how critical this is for the policy on the government.
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indeed work to come. this is the best said for we're an instrument or is she. ready is is, is she is in soon come on corrupt since we're little chandler's. ready no push that goes look out and what part of it to us our monday. busy first you buy it from the children in african budget on this account. okay? if i may interrupt you briefly, i don't think many people dispute there and sees revolutionary credentials in terms of and ending apartheid. but with youth unemployment, the highest in the world with record levels of poverty and equality, the agencies failing to deliver those now isn't it? it's revolutionary credentials accepted, but now it needs to deliver for today. in digits for it need to do what
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to do in a month or so and i made some money. he said that the issue of the problem is such a minorities who are made from. ready and you sent them in such a while and i think see, we don't have to assess 2 point whether we didn't traps or social grants while people will scroll the go button high. they've got a big on a she. ringback our country as well as the ok. william, look at. okay. 32 of our
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country is still william, are you confident that? so rom, oppose a cannot. can come up with those recommendations in 4 months or is the, is the rock to deep? i think there are still very tricky folks now because you know, you also understand that some of our president, i'm a poster is also not in golf in allegations of corruption. what has happened that his father called you answered africa gates and i think he's focus not really if in trying to you know, to survive particularly survive that scandal. what any amc you know, is up for you for the election. any answers, december conference. so between now and the end of the year, and the answer is electra contra. spect place. i don't think i'm of course i will be focusing on the crisis. need a fast the the answer will be focusing on the one hand present because i seem to be focus on trying to keep trying to get reelected and to try to clear his name until december. and then the other hand, what you're seeing in the company,
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and maybe there is, but he's generating so much hopelessness and anger in the country is that he is really, is focusing on his own internal battles from with him. and even the conversations that he has, the conversations is so far from, from the crisis somebody. so king and engine leaders are talking, blaming apart, base layman, colonial or somebody has been over 3 decades. you have to imagine over 3 decades, you know, the increase in charge of the status and chops of the economists in charge of the companies policy writers domestic reform policy. you know, no one off the decades can still blame. the asked what? one if one half half a party such a monopoly control over the states. since mostly i know you've written recently the south africa, african leaders that she should look to what's happened in nash lanka, about ensure lanka was a revolution against elected representatives. and simply in south africa had
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violence last year. that might be a taste of what's to come. that makes it different from the arab spring. that was a revolution against dictatorships if democracy, letting people down in south africa. no, i think that i think they economic circumstances, solvent hard in this country. but what i'm starting to realize at this point in time is that as the maturity of their electron start to realize that even though they exercise the vote and the promise that the n c puts forward of the so called renewal is not occurring. their frustrations are bubbling over into the streets and i would argue that their frustrations will soon bubble over to the state. because then see as the liberation movement is no different than any other one in the rest of the continent. at 1st they got another state. they must manage it and then they find creative ways to stay in power. so project, hopefully you realize that the future of the n c is not different to that. it was
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on a p, f, in that these could become liberation. movements that start to infiltrate the judiciary and frustrate media and dependence, and ultimately obfuscate election results. so we have to work hard in the period now though the democracy is maintained in this country, all we faced the real prospect of outside interests that can motivate and disillusion youth to be able to create just instability in the country will come back to that subject in a 2nd a but the co to what he thinks around those as rama poses, chances are of winning reelection as the agency leader later this year we'll see this huge of any the only dance on this which ramos r e g h. ringback in nearly mitchell with. ready the bills of the kronos
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sells. what's for now? normally this guaranteed a newly ledge now leader guaranteed eli a stay in abashed why they're built in the window would have done what he supposed to been done in terms of the last conference with the solutions. ready last conference published positions in one sampling is determined, we're search us and then we will come back and this will do guidelines for what is the got to cranberry once run. jalencia, florida. okay, who his performance is, is that the region probably just a leader to deliver the money? it's ok. william thanking this william just help us understand the day to day living circumstances of ordinary south africans at the moment. like in many developing will countries. people live day to day, what they are not days, what they spend on food at the end of that day. there's no weekly shop hedging
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against inflation. that sort of thing. how ordinary looks, oliver can surviving in a moment. i mean, i think, you know, because this is the bigger finance crisis, at least in the post democrats yet. but certainly just maybe because i'm financial crisis since the end of the 2nd time. if you think about the numbers, 2 types of or young people are unemployed. if you change of, you know, another number just in terms of adults, be almost 60 percent of doctors and employees. we've now getting fuel prices because of the fact off the russian and your claim was your price is soft caps of sky high. and most people, i mean most people are just are just to be example. i mean about 3040 percent of people's income at the lower end spectrum is spent on transports. so all the money to stay, we might even have now potentially the highest inflation rate in the post office
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. a very happy coast space. then, you know, a public house of state house system because status fail opposite collapses. go to public hospital now to joke, east africa, you go there to die. public education system, schools, and townships, if we can pay for you know, let's say mathematics compared to an emerging market and even our african counterparts, we certainly among the west to compare with public education but other countries. and then of course we got over 800 state own entity, certainly any emerging markets. yes. so most states companies, if you compare to other emerging market, but almost 90 percent of all of those companies will failed. i mean, they bank up last decade, just 1.5 trillion run has to be used to bailout just
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companies. this is a real crisis. i mean, it is, as i say, the biggest financial crisis in loving memory. ok, a movie isn't the problem for you. that the politicians that a capitalizing on the circumstances. william talked about of a one from the populist and of the spectrum. you've had to new policies and making began the municipal elections that run an anti migrant platforms. you have julius malay mer of the economic freedom fighters who went round with people into restaurants, demanding to know if they employed foreign workers the other day. they are the politicians making in route wrote say, whereas people like you who want to try and bring races together, a struggling against the populist wait i think globally, we went through that wave and you described periods that occurred even pre covalent and maybe to some of the time we saw in the us what that meant, we saw even some of the french elections and all of those, all that global phenomenon was in place. but i would argue william, that in fact,
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we are now getting to a point where is more and more people realize that actually the rational center argument has to be restored back to south africa. there are more people now trying to correlate around the center. and i would argue the case that come 2024, you will see that in place because the plans for majority of south african citizens, they realize if they all blame the immigrants or sometimes even the and see wants to do, you would have had a far greater growth, but we are now describing $65.00 or 55 to 10 percent. i want to say this equally. so, and this is a very important point. is that what the greatest appointment with the n c has been? is that we've been through periods in the past where we actually gets economic growth, where we don't see infrastructure being pulled in the democratic era. and that is all dissipated. nancy is not going to be able to redo it, and that is what we still need. we need that 5 percent g d p growth, we need that infrastructure rebuild. and i think citizens like myself in many others are now starting to form that coalition in the center. that will be able to
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bring about that middle ground, that central vote to be able to bring about the change in 2024. ok. very last very quick answer to the to the independent hare. at the table. william, do you think the a and see can recover in time for the national elections order part people like a movie? they have a chance. and you know, my says this is the ends and the decline of the agency. you know, i'm in african, if you look at our african history, as i said, i feel also bought about a 30 k, you know, the generations that voted for the asians are for our liberation, passes, and energy liberation party fail unpaid quotes a for the party. so we, we, are there states, it does appear, i think i really should be se, well, drop below 40 percent. if it's lucky, it would be, you know, 40 is if president obama has not had a very likely to the 50s. and if you talk to load and touches it won't be able to
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put a congregation. but if it's sort of in my for it should be able for the coalition. but it will never be able, i think, to govern on its own anymore. all right, we are gentlemen, unfortunately out of time, but thanks to all our guests to dakota for, wait a to move, see my money. and to william made a thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for more debate, go to our facebook page, dots, facebook dot com, forward slash ha insights. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are a inside store for me, bernard smith, and the whole team here by the me. ah
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