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but ukraine insisted can win the war as its forces appear to be making some gains in the east. willie, you maintain its top stands and risks, winter gas shortages. this is inside store. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm burnett's, congress prime minister says sanctions against russia and not working. victor or vance as a new strategy is needed. one that focuses on peace talks and negotiations in a speech in romania or been reiterated his country, which is a nato member, will stay out of the war in neighboring ukraine. hunger is economy relies heavily on russian gas, and the government in budapest doesn't want to support embargoes on russian energy imports or ban says since russia one security guarantees talks should be held

between washington and moscow. not keith. we started off to check on medical cooking. if one job, a new strategy is needed, which would focus on not winning the war, but instead on piece talks and drafting a good piece proposal. the european union is taxed now is not the stand on the side that the russians are on the side of ukrainian descent between russia and ukraine. this should be the essence of a new strategy. this is how the situation is. we are sitting in a car puncture and all 4 tires is absolutely clear that the war cannot be won in this way. ukraine will never win the war against russia with american training personnel and weapons, quite simply because the russian army has a symmetrical dominant language. the 2nd factor that we have to face up to is that the sanctions are not weakening moscow. the 3rd is that europe is in trouble in economic trouble, but politically 2 and governments are collapsing like dominoes. only since the war, the governments of britain, it leap, guerria and stony have collapsed and the autumn is not even here yet. the problem

is that everywhere in europe where the large part of european countries is certain that there will be a recession. and this will cause political instability. why should i have to say that if we would have been a bit more lucky after us president of the size of our would have been donald trump and we'd match goodness anglo merkel not to leave. if donald trump would have been us president and anglo merkel, german chancellor, the war would never have started. but we didn't have luck. so we are in this war problem. we have to reach a new agreement with the russians, and your agreement has to be reached between hungry and the chinese. and a new agreement has to be reached with the united states as will be easier with the republicans and with the current democrats. now, despite severe rounds of sanctions, russia's economy is still standing. moscow continues to receive 1000000000, ban revenue from energy exports. some 20 european bies of russian gas. i believe, to have opened accounts in the russian rouble. a kremlin decreed. march required all gas payments from what it called unfriendly countries to be made in the

national currency. but some european energy companies voluntarily paying through russian bank accounts, saying the payments are in line with e u sanctions. ah, let's bring in our guests in vienna. we have roger hilton, a defense fellow at globe sack, a security and geopolitical think tank in the ukrainian city. olivia, we have michael bought a qx, a senior fellow at the atlantic council, and in oxford, samuel romani, and associate fennel fellow at roo. see the royal united services institute a warm welcome to you all. roger, i'll start with you. we'll europe be able to maintain unity on ukraine as an ottoman winter approaches. oh, good evening, bernard, and thank you so much for having me. before getting started, as we heard on the introduction to org, i made a very spirited each that ukraine will not be able to win this war. so before we go any further, i just want to make the statement that i mean that we disagree with this position

of hearing prime minister. i think a lot of the cards are now are a wine you for ukraine. long term to move forward in winnie and obviously gotcha. got his comments about your move on the side is also a position. i don't agree with the european meaning itself is an institution based on values and morals. and right now it's not only a moral imperative, but it's also in their strategic interest when he cut me when he comes to the european union holding up. yes, of course, you know, you've had these 5 governments that fall already, but it could be argued that they could have fallen earlier, and it took 6 months for the to actually happen. so while the current implementation of the european union strategy against russia is imperfect, it had been impactful, and i think moving forward that it just need to be adjusted to move forward with the bad as the opposed to moving on. michael, do they see in ukraine? what all been a saying as a, a perhaps a commonly held view. do they worry it will become a commonly held view in europe, or they think or body speak on his own?

i think a big fear here in the ukraine is i, yes, your report become divided and that the interest in the war will wayne. and that as pressure increases on democratically elected governments in europe and elsewhere that, you know, they will come to, you know, the economic costs that are happening. but look, it's very, very important for western governments to keep together when it comes to policy towards ukraine. and then i have to say as well, that is a canadian, it's very important that countries like my own stick to the sanctions they committed to. i was very, very disappointed and disillusion. one prime minister trigger recently watered down his own sections in order to return those generators for north stream one back to, to russia. so look at mr. bond is one of the most dangerous politicians on the planet. he gave many speeches recently, some of them quite racist. he's an ally of russia, so, you know, he's, he's playing on the russian playbook. and i don't think we can believe much. and

what he's actually is that some you will do you think europe will be able to maintain unity over ukraine is also winter approaches the cold weather comes. so i think that when you look at the question of european unity in several different angles, i think that certainly european countries are going to continue to supply armster grain. there are some disagreements, obviously with hungary not wanting to be a party in the war. and also in bulgaria that the vast majority. busy of european countries are willing to st. ready artillery air defense systems and other equipment. so in terms of army grain, i think they'll certainly be entity. but where we'll get complicated is on the next 8th package of sanctions against russia. will they move towards the gas embargo? there was a remarkable coalescence of european countries on the swift sanctions, even on the oil embargo after a testy period on individual sanctions, sanctions, and russian entities a. but i think that that unity might start to frame when it comes to natural gas. even big players, a germany might balk, we're seeing hungary already expand it's purchases of a natural gas and keep russian nuclear energy. so i think that that will be the

area and, and also there will be divisions not just between members dates, but the biggest divisions will happen within countries. so between far right and far left marvellous parties and the governments that are in power. so we need to look at internal. busy cleavages as being the biggest source of discord for europe . but i think the military support will likely stay roger. despite his more outrageous statements, victor robin does have the challenges that are not unique in european countries. rising energy costs have re reliance all. no russian energy on the sanctions haven't particularly worked lovely rushes, triple the amount of money is earning from high energy costs. so does that need to be another look at how we treat russia in this conflict? if i could just respond very quickly to them who brings up some good point. i mean, i think for all of our viewers there, it's very important to recognize that the beginning of july, the czech republic is taken over the president of the european union. and the czech republic for all of our years, who might not know it or part of the group, the visitor grad 4 which included hungary, slovakia, poland,

and the czech republic. and it's been very clear with their new government you've been on for andre. bob is that they are going to prioritize the platform of the need or sort of as a mechanism on the policy which was coming before. i mean, also within that hungry has the president, the, the for under traditional ally polling is actually not in lock step with them moving forward onto the next point. as i said in my earlier statement, i think that you would need to adjust what's going on. now it goes without saying that when it comes to energy, different areas we're going to be, are going to be more vulnerable to others. odyssey here, just across the board in low vacuum, they have major issues going on. but at the same time, there are other sources of energy coming from the south. you know, and you've had a bit of an issue right now with the, with being portugal and cold. and also saying that the energy that they have, they might not be distributed equally as this proposed earlier this week with germany. so i'm not, you're seeing that there's a quick. ready to this, but i do think that there is a solution to be had on the political level and trying to figure out how to maximize the got to have accuracy without putting too much money in the cost for

the russian. at the same time, michael or you took it before, but i mean, there are over 5000000 ukranian refugees across europe now. is there a concern that the welcome for them is waning? oh, absolutely. in fact, i just finished a tour of europe and even in poland, which has been one of the strongest supporters of ukraine. this coming september 700000 you credit school children will be admitted into polish schools. so that's a huge burden on them or thing and some other countries as well that support, for example, free growing railway tickets, things like that are being withdrawn and also people are having a lot of records are having problems funding for example, their accommodations. so it isn't an easy slog, but going back to the original quote, if i may look, i think your european government top to get their citizens ready that they have to accept short term pain for long term game. the only thing mister putin understands

is for us, and if your pin countries begin to buckle when it comes to supplying arms to ukraine or strength of sanction, he's going to go further and further into europe. so there can be no divides when it comes to sending optimists. ok, but samuel europeans take the northern europeans aren't used to having to put up with short term pain. the u commission on those gas gas shortage is the commission wants huge powers to mandate gas rationing. many european countries already resisting it. do you think b e u will manage to get that policy through? why does that could be a bit of a complicated measure? we're already seeing some nation states within the european union, normalizing the notion of gas rationing. i think there was a statement coming from the german economy ministry. so robert had back even several months ago talking about that. the netherlands was also warning about that the same time. so gay d, as this might be inevitable, has been normalized by existing governments, but certainly is going to be very unpopular and at rest,

emboldening out the far right elements within those countries of the year. welders type politicians in the netherlands or inside germany, the f d or in italy. now with maria druggie being. ready removed the 5 star movement in de leon art. so there, i think that those concerns about him boldly and populous may prevent many european countries. i'm actually going through to, through on this. and they'll be others like hungry and like, yeah, which i think that could drag their feet entirely and be does as you measure. and roger, what do you think about is not going to work this a 10 by the commission to give you some enormous powers to, to mandate gas rationing? if there's one thing that i think we've all learned here is not to under evaluate the grid, the creativity, and also the policy grid averse love on the lion as president of the european commission. so, i mean, look, it, again, as i said earlier, this is going to be a tough decision. but i think on the political level, a lot of people thought that the massive the look that happened earlier in the 2000 that wasn't going, that wasn't going to happen. and that there was, you know,

it talk about the greek economy and then crashed out of the euro. so i do whole hard to believe that given what that both in the short term medium and long term that a deal will be had, will be some tough tell. this was actually maybe among german. absolutely. especially now sort of with germany 30 percent buying the unit for there is no doubt that the energy sector is hurting. but as i said, when there's a will, there's a way and i think moving forward especially to some of the slovak, like vice president richards, the president and vice president commission. i think there will be a lot of momentum to try to get this over the finish line with them winners and losers. but roger, when you say where there's a will, there's a way, i mean, there is resistance to this, particularly, you know, a lot of the view that this is to save germany. and the greeks might particularly be a bit upset about that, considering their request for 5th school lenient the years ago during the financial crisis is about view does up you can currently have currency i think for the moment and makes great quick bait. it's great headlines, but at the end of it in there are other mechanisms within the european union to try

to get the ball moving forward. as i said, i mean, is it retribution is it? have been everything german shot and point it could be, but i still think long term without being you know, we're still in the early days of this conversation. winter season is still a little bit even a little bit of way. and i think it's not to be underestimated the check president the rule they'll play in it me very famously. i think it is their interview managers that if we have to we will burn everything to stay alive to a warm. so again, we're very early days on this and i think moving forward will be compromised, given take, and we'll see what happens. michael. all the further sanctions tools, the europeans and the americans, the north atlantic or countries can use against russia that haven't been employed that they should be considering. yeah, i think so. there are more banks that can be sanctioned. i think the strategy, though of using sanctions to cause perhaps harm are paying to the right from people

hoping that the rise up against mr. brewton is not the right philosophy to follow. i think we have to get to a point and i know the american pop in working on this is to get at their kind of flow starters on board. i'm talking about some of the gulf countries you a countries like that because you know, as long as the oligarch, so the people in mr. put in circle can hide their wealth or visit countries like the u. a or countries in asia for example. they will not feel the brown till this time since we have to get to a point. and i said this before. now there, i believe it that if the oligarchs, the people mr. put in circle wants to go vacation anywhere. the only have 2 options . one would be perhaps, not korea and the others would be the illegally need island pilots in the trying to see by china. so, but you know, these sanctions take a lot of work, they're not going to be employed overnight. i think there's going to be

a lot of bilateral negotiations, for example, even with turkey, which by the way, it's trying to play a mediator between ukraine and rush on the, to our for example, very light on russian tourism. so it's very difficult for them to go all the way and put in the really, really tough. ready sanction, i believe some you just on, on what michael was saying that has russia had any diplomatic use success you think in limiting europe's attempts to isolate russia. so guy loves doing a tour of africa and the moment after reaching that grain deal, the middle east isn't totally behind europe. as michael just said, that why think that russia may not generally been able to leverage its relationships with popular parties or inter european divisions. the sense that they would have thought, and that is not surprising because they've always overestimated their ability to create factors within now, european societies, like i distinctly remember speaking to russia, academics in 2015 a year after the acquisition of crimea. and they were telling me that they were

shocked at germany, and many european countries ultimately sanctioned russia. they figured that their internal connections would be able to have prevented that outcome. but outside of europe, the russians are doing quite a good job at creating and moving towards the pose western foreign policy. certainly china is backing so many of their narratives are they, be on biological weapons will be under version decisions. so call a peaceful solution that actively means ukraine seating and sovereignty to russia. india is looking for new investments in the russian economy. most of the middle eastern countries where the exception of turkey and sometimes dramatically israel have really been non russia side, certainly accommodating versus divisions, and russia, strengthening his time now in africa with key countries like congo, uganda, egypt, ethiopia, just a lab roster and in latin america you was interesting to see marcus or the summit, not given the landscape speaking lot. so russia is supposed, watching foreign policies embrace of multiple order as outreaches to the global south have been much more successful than some people may have thought. and their

narrative to say the sanctions, for example, and not russia, bach, any of the brain are causing food insecurity. those narratives are going a long way. and the global, the west is encountering that raja is europe now having to face up to the fact that he's operating a war economy. if i could just again, sorry, if i could just respond to the lam, i'm really not can, if i'm just really not convinced so whole heartedly of the success of russian, you know, soft power outreach afterwards. i think it's massive volume. the tooth to reach and fighting. the crews were 1st or he was any ran this, the sheer fact that he was the one who's having to wait for president air. the one where he's the one who's always having to wait which quite dramatic. and the 2nd is this really the mean allied that, you know, russia is so proud to trump it out, that they had a meeting with the toller when he can basically call up anybody in washington or other g 7 countries and has them also when it comes to china, again,

i really think this is of the year where even, you know, the economy is hurting quite a bit. and i think that one of the chinese companies are in court substitution or financing. they haven't seen as much as i think everybody thought they were going to procure the dragon. the dragon sanctions, especially given the instability and the progress of the chinese economy. and there's a protest going on right now in china. so if you could just repeat the question, sorry, but while i carry on with this being that ok, but even if you're not convinced by russians diplomatic successes outside of europe, putin is not going anywhere. is the sanctions haven't be stabilized him, haven't threatening his removal from power. he might be playing a long game. he could be a natural for a long time. he's not going to pull out of ukraine. if i could just respond to my, my colleague, even if he is playing a long game and again, i don't agree with the present. i don't agree with the position that the economy is, is ok, they're cherry picking that. when you see whether i can grab there's a sugar run or other issues we're now lot of they're coming out without,

without technology, without the proper technology or airbag. i think it is very disconcerting. and i think the silent is concerned that what are we supposed to do with the import that there's going to be a massive hole in the deficit in the budget. moving forward is confirmed by the finance minister and they're losing a huge amount of the federal reserves every their reserves when it's thanks. and so again, on the economic level, i think things are much worse, but when it comes to the you, yes, the system is set up that while it's not grade and presumably the evidence suggest that we're going to be going into recession and the cost of living is going high, which feeds into a damn about a lot of the popular parties. this is the reality we have to live in europe has gone through other big crazy before. all right, michael, is pushing playing the long game. it's going to make do with a don't buy stories are going to, it's enough of a face saving option all, but there's not for domestically controls a state media. so nope, there's no particular opposition that to public opposite into what he's doing,

what the ukrainian view of how he's going to plow. yeah, definitely. he's playing the long game. i mean, let's not forget that there were actually started in 2014, not on february 24th of this year. and then, you know, in that time i saw has been inoculating itself against sanctions. for example, with tighter alliance with china, which is something they did even during the democrats and i was, was traveling around. so they, they, you know, the beauty of being a dictator, of course, that you don't have to face the, a lot of traffic on a level like electrical on a level playing field. you can manipulate electrons, you can get reelected, and like president, she try and they are in power for it for life. but i do think the chinese mean kind of ally of russia at the moment are much, much more prob bumps, they're much more pragmatic. and that when they see that it's not to their benefit dot rusher is warring with ukraine and then also causing trouble elsewhere in the neighborhood. for example,

in the central region states that they will pull further away. and then i think this is the wild card, bernard, i think this is where russia will be for us to reevaluate it strategy and great, but just the ukrainians need desperately, much, much for weaponry. and the main thing they need right now, because no one of ukraine can be considered safe. where i'm sitting right now is they need the ability to close those guys to those long range. russian missiles that can be shot from inside rush from the 1000 miles away. yeah. all right, so then samuel with a weapons that nato is supplying to russia, has russia got the resources to keep fighting that it's at its current levels, given the new weaponry coming in. well, that's always been an open question. how long could russia sustain itself? i mean, their version colleges are poor as their predict even back in march and april at russia would burn through is precision weaponry stocks. that's why i was relying on gauge when he choose and a lot more app for quality, less precise. so we there weaponry,

but i think that that's less because they're running out of stocks more because they're just trying to minimize cost and they don't really care about the loss of civilian lives. i think russia can definitely continue fighting this war for at least one did you years. at least the estimate is coming from your grand even. and also russia will be in fortifying its defensive positions even in places and sell in ukraine. so it will lab benchley minimize this casualties clean for susie hundreds of people a day right now, which was some reports are showing and is burning through a lot of weapons docs. we shouldn't underestimate rushes long term ability to continue prosecuting this. busy for though he mars and other systems that data was given to you, grand are big advantage. you're still see, i don't a reports in the cars and gander events up at rush. i can sell out again. ukrainian military by 8 to one in terms of artillery. oh, that's a big advantage. the rush asked on roger lawsuit. so do you think, how's russia got the resources to keep fighting at his current levels in it? and if so, is the, the approach europe is taking as you were saying at the beginning, the program, your trip maintain the path that it's on?

why do seem to be in that position right now where i, i don't going to be green along with the remaining just like dime reference. i mean, you had to richard worth speaking at the awesome security conference. you said that russia was running out of steam before we want to sort of your team strategy at the same time off that made some good points about them. having co bach brought in by laurie's and, you know, don't get me wrong. this is going to be quite difficult take on her son offensive. you know, just yesterday you had the american and bathroom move back. and dr. bricks, who was formerly doctors, who said that the united states support for ukraine will go on as long as it's needed. so if you have united states in that, i think that the tone for the rest of the countries will continue the munition. and one point that is not reported up enough is while they still have the artillery theory already in terms of the ratio for the russian, there are other long range weapon system that the united states could be providing that are even better than high mars that would actually even change the battlefield even more drastically. so it's not as if this is the end. they'll be all the equipment that can be shipped in not to mention the massive security training

program that's going on in the u. k. just today you had been wallet vakio looking into other issues when he comes to the you. i think finally my position is they're going to have to amend the strategy a little bit, a little bit of given take. i think we saw an example of that with the grain dea will part of the center for russia to get through the brain that they could get their fertilizer to market. so i think i'd moving for the year. we'll have to adapt gentlemen for the moment we're out of time, but thanks to our guests to raja hilton, to michael boss, a q and to samuel romani. and thank you to watching. you can see the problem again . any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for more debate, go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash a j inside store. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a inside story from me, bernard smith and the entire team here in doha, by the

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