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fires, there is a remote indian tribe in canada that uses starlight and that will, having access to these satellites, whether it's one web, whether it's amazon, whether it's star link, will be able to do things like provide tele medicine and provide educational opportunities to community. as i have, you know, starkly, been cut off from the rest of the world. it is something that is being really looked at and contested by the terrestrial options that have historically provided services. you know, because base access one web or sort of encroaching on their territory. but you know, the hope is that it will provide more access to more people and just be affordable because there's a lot of people around the world that just don't have access. and this could really improve their lives drastically. ah,
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took up a headlines here and just there a european union nation's of agreed to russian gas supplies after russia announced another cup to deliveries. the members agreed to voluntarily would use gas use from august until march. russia says the reduced output is huge for the gas turbine, but you lead as it was moscow, a thank politics. $45.00, b, a sam correspond, stay 15 percent cut in our usual gas consumption between the beginning of august and the end of march. that's why we have pointed to this percentage as the target or member states should strive forward. russia has launched more missile strikes on your cranes, black sea coast rockets. it the village of zacotta in the desert region. ukrainian president, loving me as the landscape says, it's a residential area with no military assets. the eastern city of hockey was also targeted. russia says it'll quit the international space station after
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2024. moscow has announced it'll shift its focus to building its own space station . the u. s. has expressed regret the international monetary fund has slashed its global growth forecast of just over 3 percent as conflict in ukraine and a slow down in china. take their toll on the world economy. it says higher food and energy prices are expected to push up inflation more than expected. but while the outlook is bad, the i'm a says there are measures countries can take to mitigate the worst impact. the outlook is darkened significantly since april. the world may soon be teetering on the edge of a global recession. only 2 years after the last one. multi lateral cooperation will be key in many areas from climate physician and pandemic preparedness, to food security and that distress. amid great challenge and strife, strengthening cooperation remains the best way to improve economy prospects fall
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and mitigate the risk of g. o, economy fragmentation, firefighters in the usa, they're making progress in battling california's biggest while fire this year. nearly a quarter of the blaze near yosemite national park is now contained. the oak fire started burning on friday, and as destroy the area half the size of san francisco. athens of people had been moved from their homes, heat wave, and long term drought conditions of field. the blades were those were the headlines . the news continues here now to 0, after inside story statement, dance watching, bye for now. ah says global outrage after me and mar, executed for pro democracy prisoners. it's military john to has brushed away
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criticism. can international precious stop such killings and what are the chances of me and mar returning to democracy? this is inside store. ah. hello, welcome to the program and burnett's the execution of for prominent pro democracy activist in may and mar, a sparked anger in the country and abroad. the military john to which took power in a qu last year had accused the man of conspiring to admit acts of terror. the activists, including several high profile opposition figures were tried in secret military courts. news of the executions triggered condemnation from the united states. the european union, britain, australia, and the united nations, as well as
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a rare rebuke from the association of southeast asian nations. and hundreds of people protested outside me and mars embassy in bangkok will bring in our guests shortly. first, this update from tony chang in bangkok, reactions the execution of 4 political prisoners inside man my by the military joint. her has been shock and horror. hundreds of people took to the streets of bangkok to protest outside murmurs embassy. there have been statements of condemnation from the un secretary general, the u. s. secretary of state and politicians all across the u. a little this condemnation here in the region, se asia will the malaysia's foreign minister did say this was a crime against humanity. but to a certain extent, azia and the association southeast asian nations has tried to engage the mere mom, military child curb their excesses. they say, this will be seen very much as a slap in the face. and
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a rare common from me on mars military on the executions at a press conference in answer to a question from local media. they said they had nothing personal against these men . and they had been given every opportunity to prove their innocence. that said their charles took place in the military court in secret process. many people deemed to be very unfair. and that feeling of unhappiness is also being seen and the streets of miramar. flash mobs take into the streets of yang, gone. amanda lay many of the main cities demonstrating their anger and calling for revenge. and that is the big concern that with this conflict getting worse and worse since the military coup in 2021. as both sides become more entrenched, the conflict, we'll just get worse. tony chang for inside story. malaysia's foreign minister spoke out against the miramar executions at
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a press conference in kuala lumper. takes place about less than 2 weeks after a dispatcher and boy visitor may be door. and just about a week before the us and 40000000 does meeting infinite period. so we look at it that as if the who is making a mockery of the 5 point consensus. and i think we really have to look at this very, very seriously, man, man, should not be invited to send political representation to all ministry would meetings. this is to, this is to, to show that we are very serious on the issue of political representation. the justice spokes person says the executions were legal, argued with a young man, and we knew that there may be criticism and objections when the death penalty were
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100 down and conducted in accordance with domestic law. however, we did it for reasons of domestic stability for the rule of law and order and for security. not personal deposition groups have 70, it was don't legally. these criminals were given the chance to defend themselves in the verdict. some of the trials were based on eye witnesses and facts. if we compare their sentences with other the penalty cases, they have committed crimes for which they should have been given many death sentences. mammals, military seized power from the civilian government in february last year. since then, it's been accused of widespread human rights violations view and rapport to tom andrews has accused its army of deliberately targeting children with nearly $400.00 killed or injured since the amnesty international says last year saw a worrying rise and death sentences with nearly 90 people. put on death, row view, and human rights commission. so security forces have shown a blatant disregard for life. while the army denies the accusations and at least
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a quarter of a 1000000 people have been displaced since the military took power last year. ah, let's bring in our guests. minka ny house is a freelance journalist, an author. she knew 2 of the activists to executed co, jimmy, and they a tour, and she is covered their journey extensively in geneva. we have way nana campaigns officer at berman campaign u. k. and daughter of maya i, one of the $88.00 generation student leaders, and in scoggins, denmark, we have helen, maria cared a senior research of focusing on justice and security and me and mar, at the danish institute for international studies. a warm welcome to all a very difficult subject for us today. first of all, minka, are you surprised that the army went ahead with these executions?
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well, i was very concerned that this time they would be very serious about it. even though that sentence has happened been carried out for the last 30 years. but there were already before the execution. there were rumors and, and damn, was you seeing circulated deliberately that it was going to happen. what had happened already? that seemed to be like a sort of testing to watch her school work to react, she will be. and then i came especially concerned when i heard that the family, some of the family members had given them a chance. or even though it was in my meeting to have an encounter with the prisoners, because that is an indication of an execution is, is about to be implemented to be carried out. ok, when ended, are you surprised that service has happened? is executions were carried out. well, it's very hot breaking,
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we kept thinking they wouldn't do it because it's and know in the military interest to carry out the execution off to you know, decades or not having done so. but if this is a sign that the military is very desperate, because even over a year or the attempt to prove, because i'm say attempted to because they haven't been able to consolidate color, they haven't been able to control the general population who've been standing up against the military cruise, a business defined of desperation and they kind to use free a factor to stop revolution on the ground. and but in reality is, has the opposite effect of marie. i see you nodding away. there is, is this a sign of desperation from the military? i very much agree, i think from the specter of the unit itself, it's part of instilling increasing fear and terror in the population. warning the resistance fighters that they will go. as far as you know,
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they can to stop the resistance and they don't been to any international pressure. but i'm very, very, in agreement that it is a sign of weakness both on the battlefield in terms of territorial control, but also in terms of not really being able to run the state apparatus. the economy is in ruins. and what we've been researching over the past year or so is also how soldiers within the ranks of the military south are increasingly demoralized. there is a growing fatigue. we see a gradual increase of defect this over the past year as well. so even within its own ranks, there are weaknesses and the sense of kale minka you, you've 30 years covering me and more. do you agree with that? do you see this is a sense of of weakness for the 1st time the executions in 30 odd years? yeah, i certainly, i think then the military ceased power. on the 1st of february,
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2021. they expected that they would get back control pretty easily by using brutal force as they have done for decades. and the complete opposite is what we are seeing now. after months of peaceful protest and very brutal violence by security forces, it hasn't or so there are still daily flesh sco cash. large amounts of people are still on strike. and there are military groups now operating in various parts of the country, as well as the several ethnic groups who has been fighting for more autonomy and equal rights in what they hope to be a federal state. so the military really is finding itself in until at fortress here, and has to fight on so many phones all day. and i think that that is also where
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there is an element of anger and revenge on those for people who have been execute said that it wasn't only meant to terrorize the population, but it was also an expression of revenge as far as i see it. i mean, could you knew they at all and code jimmy and left families? can you just tell me a little bit about them? yeah, i wish we had the whole program to talk about them. of course there's so much to say both of them are very highly respected, active face. and so let me started called jimmy, who came to fame in 1988 protests against the machine. he is a member of the a t h generation. and he was very soon after this process of having a reference and he spends between his course of s and another release in 2012 almost 20 years in jail. but every single time that he came out of jail,
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he should call me once he was still advocating democracy and free country. and he also was known for doing a lot of social activities to address for ills into society even off can be seen. for example, when, when there were crisis, each needed to place people, people do money, cherry, and work. there was also very high. would he and an appeal at all is about 10 years younger than the 53 year old co. jamie, he came to fame as bringing out releasing the 1st album, which really galvanized generation that was the price of freedom and hunger for, for a better life. and a nash for 15, and then he decided that most of the not for to take and, and he,
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what he established and underground use movement all generation people who present them. and up on the 25th, 2011, he joined the party of function switching. alright. and i should also mention flom you on and on tours or the other 2 men who executed as well. and wine in we had mentioned that from ink of the flash mobs have been in that been takes incredible bait bravery to do that. but is there any way really, to hold me and mars military accountable for all of this? well, yes, yes. a festival. you know, is that we have been telling the international community to refer them to the international criminal court. and even countries who are supposedly interested in human rights, like the u. k. in the us, they are very hesitant to do so. and we have a case going on for a hinge a genocide at the i. c j. and countries like the britain can join. that is
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a part of the accountability process for the military because we believe after all, the international community help create the cycle of impunity. felt by the bernice military because it's been decades, they've been getting away with human rights violations, genocide against their hinges. and if they get away with this state execution, the worry is that they will continue execute. 90 are this political prisoners who are on death row, and we don't want that because all of these people, they were wrongfully accused and they were tried without proper judicial process and they shouldn't be in jail let alone on that role. helen marie, in terms of holding the military accountable azia has been totally effective. it hasn't, it's, it's, it's really not. it's strategy of attempting to engage the military has not worked . toll has it. well, i mean its own chair and the conversion. and then he actually told the commandant,
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chief me on line not to carry through the 6 q sions. and we've seen a statement coming out today of disappointment. i think it's, it's, it's a clear sign that the 5 point statement that was, or consensus that was agreed upon in april last year that was mentioned earlier, has simply not been followed by the military. doing so. i mean, this idea that they would us and would bring together the different parties, including ourselves cheap who is now behind bars, has simply not worked. i mean, and people on the ground in me and my have consistently said that every time in comes and visits mit it's, it just legitimize us. the units are, it's part of what they fear, a form of normalization, of the situation, of the military going to empower any plans to hold elections in 2023. and this could be part of that normalization. so it's really, really important that the intentional community steps are broaden. it gave the mandate to us in the you and you and others to do this. but at the moment it's,
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it's just not enough. and also in the un security council, what's happening now is that china and russia are protecting the minute surgeon. so if not directly, then at least indirectly. so there is a need to find another course internationally to actually show action rather than just words, whining back to you or not. i mean, the cambodian prime minister has said he's been, he would have been humiliated really, wasn't it because he was the one he had resisted condemnation of burn while maybe singapore, the philippines, malaysia and indonesia have been outspoken. he resisted, tried to persuade the johnson not to cut out the executions, and they've just ignored it. yes, and i hope, you know, usually ascii and use the policy of non interference. but i hope this is the lesson for the asi, and that the military is not something you want to engage in. because since the
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started, the military has shown over and over again that they don't really care about any international law international agreement, they continue killing and arresting people on the ground. and of course, these 4 executions are the one that we know and is well known execution. but there are so many unvil who killing happening in integration from the retention center. so these things are happening every day and what kind of a military would be interested in engagement while they continue committing human rights violations? so i hope this is the lesson for asi and it's time for proper and effective action rather than going along with the military and hoping to engage and make them respect about human rights because it will never happen. but minka, from your experience in may and ma, do you see anything that i see and could do that would make the military change its plan would make the military return to democracy?
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well i think i'll feel it. you still have this policy of considering the situations in countries internal affairs for at the same time, there is some leverage here if i can, can last a political will because it was really a very important spec for me on march to become a member of and and i'm not happy to have a black sheep in its middle, and every single international gathering, surely they will be called up on what they're going to do. said the situation in your mar. so it all has to do with political will at the same time, they can also do a lot more to engage with the various groups that now form the position. and for example, the government of national unity, the test stablished by among others elected members of parliament. who have been
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dismissed by the military, so there are definitely more things to be explored. and what has to be done so far . and i think the military regime has been your where all the international community is busy, but the situation in the crane and all our on russia as well. and they are trying to get to see how far they get away with this incredible. ok. ex allen maria, tell us, help us understand a little bit about the people's defense forces. now, how effective are they and how effective could they be it's, it's a hard question to answer, but we know that there's around 400 the people's defense force is that more it's very important to recognize here, as was mentioned briefly earlier, is that in the past before the crew, the main battles or resistance against the military was in the s the border areas, but we also see very,
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very strong people's defense forces in birmingham berg bama majority areas in psychiatry, mac wy, and other regions. and this makes a huge difference from previous the indian mos history of, of conflict. and this could make and shoot the difference from before, because the military has to fight on so many fonts. and that's also why what i said earlier is that it's combat units are now getting tired out. they don't get any rest. they are losing the belief in what they're actually fighting for because we're talking about a broad sector of the population assisting the military amongst the majority population where most of the soldiers are from. so i think that by fighting on all these funds at the same time and the building in alliances with the calmed organizations that have been fighting the military that has experience, finding the military for the case, it could make a huge difference. and we already seen it in these sections that are happening from
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the military that we've been looking at and weighed in these people's defense forces came out of the peaceful protesters, but ever opted but started after the coo last year. they claim to control more than 50 percent of men miles territory. that is a realistic calculation. well, we feel that, that people, different forces are growing in burn that because even like, you know, they came out of the peaceful protest because they felt that was the only way to defend themselves and also attacked the military on the ground. and of course, the military has much more advanced technology and when it comes to weapons, they have much more advanced weapons as well. so what we've seen is that on the ground people defense forces and the military can, you know, the military is losing. but on the fighter jets as front then boomer 3 is using pied to just to bomb civilians and ethnic areas. and that's
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why you know, part of human rights activists calling for functions on a v a she fuel. because if we stop applying the a, b, a should be able to burma them, they won't be able to slide these 5 projects to bomb people in ethnic area as well as people who are operating people defense forces in on the ground. main, could you see too much store puts in the strength of the people's defense forces? are they really any match for the chinese supply supplied me and mar army. well, this is not only about military strength as such. it's the fact that there are groups in various parts of the countries, including very close or even in urban areas that give the military regime a sense of insecurity and fear. and that is quite unprecedented in, in recent history. so when you speak to a pdf,
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they will tell you that a lucky is reference, but they don't allow all in all, it is quite high. and that is certainly also a factor that needs to be taken into account. when we often hear this call for the pdf people's events forces their short of weapons showed an outside organisation or country be arming the pedia. well, this is not. i mean, a lot of people on the ground, especially at pdf, are asking for arms, but also they're asking for a humanitarians help as well because most of them don't have any funding for food and other fun shows and that's loan. so as of course, the burner is not only facing a human rights problem bill, but we're also facing a huge humanitarian across this in the country. so i think in the national
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community and outside organization should be healthy people inside the country and including, you know, countries like asi and they can allow the cross border a from type my border so that people in the can live and they have food and other functions to essentially to operate i think it's very important to get support from the international community. hello maria, just very quickly from you. how do you see inside me and mother? what the best way to combat the jump to that the best ways by far to unite the forces against the military doing, i mean we've seen forms of unification. we haven't seen historically before in the mob, but there are also challenges. there are also differences amongst those resisting the military to to so if people can stand together and the ethnic organizations can join hands with the people's defense forces and also the political entities from
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the ethnic minorities and the national unity government. i think that is definitely the best way forward seen from inside mine. of course this should be supported by us from the outside as well. all right, thank you very much. we are unfortunately out of time, but thanks to our guests to minka niehaus, to wayne in and helen maria tired, and thank you too for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for more details go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are actually a j inside store for me, bernard smith in ty team here in doha, by the awe
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