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mission has failed to keep them safe. several civilians and peacekeepers have been killed in days of unrest. so if you and troops can't keep the peace, who can? this is an eyesore ah. hello welcome to the program. i'm im, ron kon, people in easton democratic republic of congo. say they've had enough of un peacekeepers, at least 12 civilians and 3 members of the local un mission known as moscow had been killed in days of protest. dozens have been wounded. ah, demonstrate his attack to you and bass is in at least 4 cities in the provinces of north and south keyvi. they say you and troops have fell to protect them from arm groups including m $23.00. some protesters say he's keep his open fire on them the
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you and denies this in as accused protest as of stature weapons from congolese police and the humans children, agents. he says kids of been manipulated into joining the unrest. little was not there, but you want to go with congo, is our heritage congos for the congolese? ever since monasco came here, they have done nothing. nothing. people have their throats that every day, while we are meant to have a un mission to keep people safe, the population is being massacred here. been kill like sheep in the presence of that been ask are there. oh, when they go home, we're going to take care of things ourselves. they say they don't have the means to combat the m. 23 rebels. so we're going to defend ourselves on our own. if they don't leave today, we're going to keep demonstrating until they do. the un says attacks on its peacekeepers may constitute a war crime. it's chief of peacekeeping is due to arrive in the country on friday. the situation today can be disguised as a friday. the normal friday if you wish,
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because with the advocacy we may with the government. since monday, the prime minister there have been some reinforcement of national security forces on the ground. securing our bases and installations. we was forced troops on contingency to ensure that securities restore. we do have buckets of a still a in security, particularly in south q in our territory. in particular, un peacekeepers have been in democratic republic of congo from on 22 years. more than $16000.00 military personnel and police and protecting civilians and supporting the government's peace efforts, most of the forces come from pakistan, india and bangladesh. moscow has a budget of more than a $1000000000.00 a year. it's mandate was extended for another year. last december. its troops have
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struggled to contain violence from mom, groups and east. in may, 2021. the congolese government placed the north akiva and its hoary provinces, under what it called a state of siege. since then, the number of civilian deaths has risen sharply. ah, let's, we're going to guess in brussels as your mother sang, a research of the democratic republic of congo at amnesty international. in the eastern kong lea city of goma pass, even obama found an executive director at the action and development initiative for the protection of women and children. she joins us on skype and from til burg. in the netherlands. felix and hinder and independent research are focusing on conflict . peace and justice, and the great lakes region of africa. a warm welcome to you all. i'd like to begin in the netherlands with felix and ender after 22 years. surely this is now a failure of the un peacekeeping mission and they just need to leave. i call the new office and things of course,
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i guess my thing about is i have to deal with what expectation of your hob about to you and post is having a good contact on indicating that the out see that you went there. i've been keeping mission, not a piece making make mission. sometimes the legalistic knew all about them them to death, to been meaningless. but in many contexts we, we know from an a, an appeal perspective, un rarely makes peace. un tries to keep peace between belligerents. but the idea of making this really more of it, i'm, is left to listen to the access to the diplomatic. if there are many other channels that you make, yes, there is a lot to say about money for what he has done and what he's not have not done, but they expect taishan that we're going to go there in the. yeah, see a country of plus 100000000 people. so plus 1000000 square kilometers and make peace even with the force of $20000.00 flaws. puff and l was
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a little bit naive. i would say not being paid of course. yes, that have been coming in terms of what school get involved with different actors, both local actors, how much they are involved and how much they activated in their own. i just see in making peace or in taking that sort of thing. we make it interesting point here they've, the peacekeeping forces are about, they're brought peacekeeping not peace making, but it seems to me, if you've lost the support of the population, then you actively actually encouraging violence, which is what's been happening in the eastern democratic republic of congo. so is the peacekeeping mission of failure in europe? i conquer with most of what the other discussion has said. it, i think it's, it's a bit a mixed result when you see what the situation was. 22 years ago
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when you, when i've been in the or see between the teacher and to try and make sure that the piece agreement was respected and where we are today. the u. s. has played an important role in your shoring lusaka and some city protocols are mentioned that there is there a united you know, back in 1999. when you, when mission to call was created, was split into 3 big pots with 3, with 2 or 3 big rebellion rebellions and the government in contessa. and then you will have to, to a certain extent, green re night re nice country. it also helped
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electro and democratic processes. the election is in 20 democrats conditions in 26 where largely supported by the international community, including the u. one. now when it comes to p 2 piece making or skipping, what it's true that you when does more to make peace. but actually it was the last time the one was trying to make b in 2013. the un security council created the 4th and eventually brigade, the monday of fighting and dismantling groups. it had an offensive monday. it was the 1st time in the you, when you started in the when peacekeeping mist history that you, when opperation was even an offensive group with groups. and it's succeeded in defeating the m 23 back in 2014. but
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ever since it has also gone. it's a sleepy so yeah, the answer, the straight answer to your question is that it's a mixed result. there have been successes and there are many failures which can explain the frustration. it's expressed by the people in the streets of north keep recent in recent days. but also in recent years, this is not the 1st time there is an uprising against the you would have been menu praising against you, and this is just the last one was brilliant, hasn't worked well, let's bring in passim obama now from a go. my posse, the same question to you, has the un peacekeeping mission failed? i think actually, it sounds like you had seen that there
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is a huge session, actually enough q regarding the departure of the news across the country. and especially in the span, democratic republic of congo, where there are so many people killed every day. and people in the streets have been k, p, a t, and a new school because they have been in the country for more than 20 to here. and we think that this is too much time, and this is the impact on the grounds. as you know, this is like a big mission of the united nation. it was but a t, what's the r c or we have been staying on the ground is that still young are still
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killed. women are still right and we can say that the situation has been the same for 22 years now. and for me, if they can't do the mission, i think it's time for them to go and try and kill companies that are meant to protect the ticket then that key or so in did that you do come with government. felix. patsy has just said that and she works for the protection of women and children that women and children are being failed by this un peace keeping force that it is a failure and perhaps is time to try something else. what is that? something else is there is something else. that's exactly quite a very important question. i get to raise here. get
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a hold this quote around that. been it want to live on my also my offer would be probably not the fall of the amount that anyone in addition comes somehow to feed it back to you about it. we don't have your intervention in many countries into words. it simply because, let's say authorities in both countries, including in the security world affect, are able to perform the basic parts of the better made. that being said, what is what has been, did ya see? because 1st are grimaldi of the broken nature of what is politics or armed activities that are prevalent in the country. keep in mind that this is an area which has reported more than plan more than $100.00 different m 20 to be one of them are many reports of un coding and every document the rampart, human rights violations by the congress is army. one of the recent books,
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for example, by different times, but also the method, what is many report has been documented or have different the outputs, the complexities of some, even just the army commander in for example, in the hostility, even in nourishing the different worlds. because being on the thoughts of it is a source of income has become a business. yeah. so i'm not making this a fact that i recorded big se, relying on this existing structure all of a sudden, after the departure of pneumonia school to perform the basic function of protection upset and given civilians back. molly's cause being still reported for protecting over the years. we've all should come back up. we can, we can go through would be a little bit nice. it's very important to thing to think about and to, to look at 1st and foremost, that it or the fact that much of the failures we had mentioned around monte school, do somehow mir, all of the many failures,
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even even bigger failures of what is politics in many sense, so either very national, local and are and if you originally or if you will. so did it, it, it would be presumptuous to say that all of a sudden broken go live, a protest will be operational and capable to, to, to, to, to ensure a piece that he has not been. let's, let's put that filter. let's put that point to felix certain, felix. let's put up to point to home of as anger so i'm about there is no other. busy option is there, that has to be un peacekeeping force because kong, the eastern conger isn't ready to police itself to protect it. so of course, there are options, there have to be options. and these are more of mrs. subtly military options. because when we are talking about the un, just keeping peace making mission, there have been, you know, proposal by day african community to deploy
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a regional force. there is an ongoing joint operation between the committees and you've got an army there in your state of emergency that has been in place for over one year. so the response to the coffee in your see has been largely military. and i think what comes before it is the you win or the you can believe it's the military approach to the, to the conflict, to resolve the conflict. and this has led behind the root causes of this conflict, which includes the impunity, enjoyed by perpetrators over more than 28 years in this region, but also in the neighboring countries, such as ronda and others who have participated or have have committed serious crimes. on the soil, there has been no accountability,
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almost no accountability for those crimes. and this has allowed them to commit them over and over again. when you see what is happening with m 23, that's one of the reason. 10 years ago they were military defeated. but nobody was held account. now they are back again. they can commit again. they can again, rape and you because they know that for sure, there will be no consequence. they have been run these officers who are being revolving or they have not being held check. congolese officials still now, ah, club not being held to account under causes includes economic and social in and you know, all the issues around the management of natural resources and also policing issues, the legitimacy of our inventory. sha mother, we are, we are running out of time,
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and i do want to come to the other guest parssi. i want to bring this to you as well. what john movers seems to be saying is that actually it's a failure of politics, not just of peacekeeping, but this is the best bad option, isn't it this, that the route that the politics aren't going to change themselves overnight. so a peacekeeping force is the only way to keep the peace, surely. yeah, i think there is a but 26. c that's on my side. i still think that the government has a duty to protect the population. but when we are saying that they are heading to big support of the un mission, i think everything should be different. because as you may know, new school has like a big or do they have money. they have
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a lot of people. i mean the soldiers and this you put on a dad to put the government to fight for different rebel troops. we have been the region. you know, actually did your c con, count more than 100 an army both in the region. and sometimes we can even count on you one arm a way by the un mission. and i think for the that's the, the people who is in my see or in who to where are those are, those are actually responsible of so many human right. and what, what we want to see, or what they want to see is that, you know, they just needs piece that they just need to be able to go and work
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on the land and try to find something to it. and if the new school and the comment is government are not able to do that. i think there is a huge program for us as a citizen. felix, why is this happening now? why these attacks taking place today? i mean, of course they're there because you just mentioned some of the issues really have that have been going on and has been that there is some kind of fatigue, rightly so justified kind of got by the population was hit very much victimized whose lives are not met by the call is authority. i can understand this aren't got is direct that, that one of the actors that, that is visible on how's it might and power that is believed to be able to solve the issue. but keep in mind also that copy list for narrative that you're happy
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about can't be quite, very dangerous and can be late. so what we know is that this is sparkle, violence occurred on fact, she didn't july. so this, not the head of the senate to hell from this region where both from the south people program for now speeches income pain was in my i didn't book i will where he basically said money's going, needs to, to, to, to, to, to, to leave. i, he did it, him very popular. what those, what can you raise your hand and so on. so that kind of pocket is in itself. so, i mean, i could make you can go and look for how much impactful factor speech is correlated with violence today. but it's a difficult student not to read that to, to get it. so that is bad, but also could have been bad, for example, say in baby amone's mid august,
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the climate which is criticizing the presence of monies for which, which is free. and i was not doing it, but as i said, really i read away that as part of really the broad us story physics. we're getting out of time and i do when it comes to the other, get shimoda just very quickly. do you agree with what felix has just said? the actual, some congolese politicians are using monasco as a bashing they can batch them is popular and that's actually leading to more anger and then more attacks. definitely, definitely. there are for you when use a victim of a lack of leadership in the or c, but also it has its own short conference for sure. and i think the most important now is to know what, what, what needs to be done as the international community is paying for it seems to be paying more attention towards is going on there. the secretary said secretary
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clinton is apparently traveling to the region next week. there should be now be addressing the root causes of that conflict and not just continue to invest in the military response which has shown itself limitations and its failures are over the last decades. there has to be accountability for those who committed crimes and other other issues have to be resolved through dialogue, political processes. percy would all these root causes, then if we, if we are to attack and to change the recalls as of this, it's not about monasco being in the country, it's about the root causes. but what all those recorders i think and my sand that on when it could be in the country and made me good if they can realize, dan michelle, i've got some time to. 9 different people who try to let me place you
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in the country, but you can remember that this is not the 1st time that people are clear me. i did the actual new school year if you send them credited back because comma, because most of the time we can see people not far from the bed of the new school and this is the boat. so i think it's very important that people can still continue to plan because they say it's right for people if they think that they are not doing the mission, but really strongly done. what's happened the next 2 days where people have used a huge vita to to claim it back to new school. because i think if we want
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clem departure, we had to do these you know, violence ways officially. booking. we've got to make this happen. felix is very quickly, very, very quickly. you've just heard what there are last. who guess about a is there anything that you think is positive about moscow's involvement in congress? within the last step that we pants at the armed activities of even the security part that we could still commit our processes. it's a very well recorded. that's money because it keeps set an individual that lives in the d. c. so it's still a force that is needed. i'm actually always the need for the new school to be or should always be tied to 15 point 6, including community decisions, the army politics, but also the inclusive governance in the country. i want to thank all our guests as your mother sanger passing movie lama and felix and the hinder and thank you for
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