so what it is never rained in july in recorded history or any body's living memory, it just doesn't happen. reliable forecast or ravia is hot, dry, and dusty throughout the summer. 4 months of the summer. now the monsoon does affect some pow sarabia when it boosts out of india, catches southern amal salon, or it's drizzling overcast. and there are occasional thunderstorms in a mom and yemen. but this year when la monsoon burst into pakistanis call substantial damage or loss of life, it costs a similar amount of flooding. you know, mom, this is a couple of weeks ago and we so okay, so it's come a long way beyond where it shouldn't been stronger to switch to occasional variation to say it's never rained in july in kat are in recorded history or anybody's memory the same is true in queue weight, it iran, very similar one or 2 shout maybe. well, there's been flooding in the west coast of iran, the reins moving north there for the next 3 days of forecast, of significant rain causing flooding. maybe again here in bahrain as well. western iran and even in q wait on saturday, is this a one year?

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and to leave, they say the mission has failed to keep them safe. several civilians and peacekeepers have been killed in days of unrest. so if you and troops can't keep the peace, who can? this is an eyesore ah, i walk in the program. i'm him are on con, people in eastern democratic republic of congo. say they've had enough of un peacekeepers, at least 12 civilians and 3 members of the local un mission known as moscow had been killed in days of protest. dozens have been wounded. ah, demonstrate his attack, you and bass is in at least 4 cities in the provinces of north and south keyvi. they say you and troops have fell to protect them from arm groups including m $23.00. some protesters say he's keep his open fire on them. the you and in

eisner's accused, protest is of stature weapons from congolese police and the humans children, agents. he says kids have been manipulated into joining the unrest. little was not there, but you want to go with congo as our heritage congos for the congolese? ever since monasco came here, they have done nothing. nothing. people have their throats that every day, while we are meant to have a un mission to keep people safe, the population is being massacred here. been kill like sheep in the presence of that been ask are there. oh, when they go home, we're going to take care of things ourselves. they say they don't have the means to combat the m 23 rebels. so we're going to defend ourselves on our own. if they don't leave today, we're going to keep demonstrating until they do. the un says attacks on it's peacekeepers may constitute a war crime. it's chief of peacekeeping is due to arrive in the country on friday. the situation today to be disguised as a friday,

the normal friday if you wish. because with the advocacy with may, with a government since monday, the prime minister there have been some reinforcement of national security forces on the ground, securing our bases and installations. we was forced troops on contingency to ensure that securities restore, we do have pockets of a still a in security, particularly in south q in our territory. in particular, un peacekeepers have been in democratic republic of congo for more than 22 years. more than $16000.00 military personnel and police and protecting civilians and supporting the government's peace efforts, most of the forces come from pakistan, india and bangladesh. moscow has a budget of more than a $1000000000.00 a year. it's mandate was extended for another year last december, but troops have struggled to contain violence from mom groups and east. in may,

2021. the congolese government placed the north, the key view, and it tory provinces, under what it called a state of siege. since then, the number of civilian deaths has risen sharply. ah, let's, we're going to guess in brussels as your mother. sanger, research of the democratic republic of congo at amnesty international in the eastern connolly city of goma passive movie lamar founder and executive director at the action and development initiative for the protection of women and children. she joins us on skype and from til burg. in the netherlands, felix and the hinder and independent research are focusing on conflict, peace and justice, and the great lakes region of africa. a warm welcome to you all. i'd like to begin in the netherlands with felix in the end, after 22 years. surely this is now a failure of the un peacekeeping mission and they just need to leave. i like always a new all saying things cause i guess much thing about is i try to do with what

expectation to your hob about to you in a post is having to get in contact. and in discussing video that you had when there i've been keeping mission, not a piece, making my mission. sometimes the legalistic knew all about them to death, to been meaningless. but in many contexts we, we know from an a, an appeal perspective, un rarely makes peace. un tries to keep peace between belligerents. but the idea of making this really more of it, i'm, is left to listen to the access to the diplomatic. if there are many other channels that you know that make. yes, there is a lot to say about money for what he has done and what he's not have not done. but they expected that when you go, we'll go there in the country or plus 100000000 people. so plus 1000000 square kilometers and make peace even with the force of $20000.00 flaws.

puff and l was a little bit naive. i would say not being paid of course. yes, that have been coming in terms of what is called get involved with different actors . both local actors, how much they are involved, and how much are they activated in their own? i just see in making piece or in picking that sort of thing. we make it interesting point here. they've, the peacekeeping forces are about, about the peacekeeping, not peace making, but it seems to me, if you've lost the support of the population, then you actively actually encouraging violence, which is what's been happening in the eastern democratic republic of congo. so is the peacekeeping mission of failure in europe? i concur with most of what the other discussion has it. i think it's, it's a bit a mixed results when you see what the situation was. 22 years ago,

when you went to india or c, between the embedded your end to try and make sure that the piece agreement was respected and where we are today. the u. s. has played an important role in your shoring lusaka and there's some c t protocols are implemented. and that the cool is there a united, you know, back in 999. when you, when mission to congo was created, was split into 3 big pots with 3, with 2 or 3 big rebellion rebellions and the government in contessa. and then you will have to, to a certain extent, green re, re nice to the country. it also helped electro and democratic

processes. the elections in 20 democrats traditions in 26 where largely supported by the international community, including the u. one. now when it comes to p 2 piece making or p skipping, what it's true that you when does more to make peace. but actually it was the 1st time you one was trying to make b in 2013. the un security council created the 4th and eventually brigade, the monday of fighting and dismantling groups. it had an offensive monday. it was the 1st time in the you, when you started in the when peacekeeping mist history that you, when opperation was even an offensive group with groups. and it succeeded in defeating the m 23 back in 2014. but

ever since it has also gone. it's a sleepy so yeah, the answer, the straight answer to your question is that it's a mixed result. there have been successes and there are many failures which can explain the frustration is expressed by the people in the streets of north keep recent in recent days. but also in recent years, this is not the 1st time there is an uprising against the you would have been menu praising against you and this is just the last one was for you and have a need. it was, well, let's bring in past the mobile. i'm a now from a go my posse, the same question to you has the un peacekeeping mission failed? i think actually it sounds as

if you had seen that there is a huge session, actually not q regarding the departure of the news across the country. and especially in the stand democratic republic of congo, where there are too many people killed every day. and people in the street have been k, p a p, and a new school because they have been in the country for more than 22 here. and we think that this is too much time, and this is the impact on the grounds. as you know, this is like a big mission of the united nation. it was but a t, what's the r c or we have been staying on the ground is that still young are still

killed. women are still right and we can say that the situation has been the same for 22 years now. and for me, if they can't do the mission, i think it's time for them to go and try and keep companies that are meant to protect the colonies. if you then that key or so in did that you do come with government. felix. patsy has just said that and she works for the protection of women and children that women and children are being failed by this un peace keeping force that it is a failure and perhaps is time to try something else. what is that? something else is there is something else. that's exactly quite a very important question, i guess so raised here. get us hold this quote around that,

then it won't go to labor on my also my offer would be probably not the fall of the amount that anyone innovation comes somehow to feed it back to you about it. we don't have your intervention in many countries into words. it's simply because, let's say authorities in both countries, including the security of the fact that are able to perform the basic parts of the better. maybe that being said, what is what has been, did ya see? because 1st are grimaldi of the broken nature of what is politics or armed activities that are prevalent in the country. keep in mind that this is an area which has reported more than more than $100.00 different groups. em considerate, being one of them are many reports of un coding and every document the rampart, human rights violations by the congress is army. one of the recent books,

for example, that distance turns, but also to commit to what is many reports, how to document that will have to commit to dollar bills outputs the complexities of some, even just the army commander in, for example, in the hostility, even in nourishing the different worlds because being on the thoughts of it, it's also being has become a business. yeah. so i'm not making this a fact about our recorded big se, relying on this existing structure, all of a sudden, after the patch of pneumonia school to perform the basic function of protection of shit and given civilians that more this car's been still repaired for protecting over the years we've all should come back and we can, we can go through would be a little bit nice. it's very important to think of it to think about and to, to look at 1st and foremost that it or the fact that much of the failures roderick mentioned around more disco, duke somehow mir. all the many failures,

even even bigger failures or what is politics in many sense. so either very national, local and, and are, and even at regional if or if you will. so did it, it, it would be presumptuous to say that all of a sudden, bright congolese, a protest will be operational and capable to, to, to, to ensure up is that he has not been met for that field. let's put that point to a felix 3rd. felix, let's put 2.2 home of a single number. there is no other option. is there. that has to be un peacekeeping voskus kong, the eastern conger isn't ready to police itself to protect it. so of course, there are options, there have to be options, and these are not necessarily military options because when we're talking about you, when he's keeping peacemaking mission, there have been no proposal by the east african community to

deploy a regional force. there is on an ongoing joint operation between the colonies and the uganda army. there is a state of siege or state of emergency that has been in place for over one year. so the response to the conflict in eastern europe has been largely military. and i think what has failed before it is the you, when are they, you communities, it's them, the military approach to the, to the conflict resolved that conflicts and, and this has led behind the root causes of this conflict, which includes the impunity, enjoyed by perpetrators or over more than 28 years in this region, dear see, but also in the neighboring countries such as ron die, gangedine others who have participated or how have committed serious crimes

on the d or c soil, there has been no accountability, almost no accountability for those crimes. and this has allowed them to come meet them over and over again. and when you see what is happening with m 23, that's one of the reason. 1010 years ago they were militarily defeated. but nobody was held to account. now they are back again. they can commit again, they can again, rape and you because they, you know that for sure there will be no consequence. there have been around is officers who are involved in the or india, or see they have not been held to account convent. he's officials still now um plus not being held to account other causes include economic and social in and you know, all the issues around the management of natural resources and also policing issues, the legitimacy of our inventory. sha mother, we are,

we are running out of time and i do want to come to the other guest pass a i want to bring this to you as well. what john movers seems to be saying is that actually it's a failure of politics, not just of peacekeeping, but this is the best bad option, isn't it this, that the route that the politics aren't going to change themselves overnight. so a peacekeeping force is the only way to keep the peace. surely. yeah, i think there is a but 26. that's on my side. i still think that the government has a duty to protect the population. but when we are saying that they are having the big support of the un mission, i think everything should be different. because as you may know, new school has a, they have money,

they have a people, i mean, the, so just, and this you put on a dad to put the governments to fight for different rebel troops. we have been the region, you know, actually did your see con, counts more than 100 arm reboot group in the region. and for some time you, we can't even count on you one arm, but we should be a way by the un mission. and i think for the that's the people who is in my see or in who to where are those are, those are actually responsible of so many human rights collision. what, what we want to see, or what they want to see is where, you know, they just needs piece that they just need to be able to go and work

on the land and try to find something to eat. and if the new school and the government are most important to do that, i think there is a huge program for us as a citizen. felix, why is this happening now? why these attacks taking place to day? i mean, of course that's because you just mentioned some of the issues really have been going on or has been that there is some kind of fatigue, rightly so justified kind of go by the population was still very much victimized. the boy whose needs are not met about but by the call is 42. i can understand that this is direct, that, that one of the actors that is visible on how's it might and power that is believed to be able to solve the issue. but keep in mind also that copy lives on the head

for not if you're happy and that can be quite, very dangerous and can be left. so what we know is that this led to sparkle. violence occurred on, on friday if you didn't, july, so this month, the head of the senate to hell from this region, the cable from the south people program for now. speeches, income pain was integral. my, i didn't book i will where he basically said money needs to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to leave. he did it in very popular with one of those we want to live can utilize johan and so on. so that kind of pocket is in itself, so i mean, academically, you can go and look for how much impact factor speech is correlated with the violence that day. but it's a difficult not to read that to get it. so that is that, but also that had been the death attack i've, i've been for example say in bay me, i'm on august the climate which is which is the presence of monies for which,

which is not doing it. but as i said, really i read away that as part, so really the broad desk for issues or effects we're getting out of time and i do when it comes to the other guess she'll move just very quickly. do you agree with what felix has just said? that the actual, some congolese politicians are using monasco as a bashing they can batch them, is popular and that's actually leading to more anger. and then more attacks. definitely definitely. there are for you when is a victim of a lack of leadership in the are see, but also it has its own national conference for sure. and i think the most important now is to know what, what, what needs to be done as the international community is paying for. it seems to be paying more attention to what is going on there. a secretary said secretary clinton

is apparently traveling to the region next week. there should be now be addressing the root causes of that conflict and not just continue to invest in the military response which has shown itself limitations and its failures. over the last decades, there has to be accountability for those who committed crimes and other other issues have to be resolved through dialogue, a political process, see what all these root causes. then if we, if we to attack and to change the recalls as of this, it's not about monasco being in the country. it's about the root causes. but what all those records. i think when my said that i'm when it could be in the country and made me good if they can realize damnation, i've got some guy different. he shan,

who tried to let me place you in the country, but you can remember that this is not the 1st time that people are clear me. i did the partial a comma because most of the time we can see people not far from the bed of the new school. and this is an acceptable. so i think it's very important that people can still continue to plan because they say it's right for people if they think that they are not doing mission, but really strongly what's happened the next 2 days where people have used a huge vita to, to claim it by new school because i think if we want clement

departure, we had to do these you know violence ways officially. booking. we've got to make this happen. felix is very quickly a very, very quickly you've just heard what the last to guess about. is there anything that you think is positive about one of those involvement in congress within the last step that we pants at the armed activities of even the security that we could still commit thought processes. it's a very well recorded that money because it keeps set an individual that lives in the d r c. so it's still a force that is needed. i'm actually always been it for the patch up when it's called to be or should always be tied to the thing is punish, including committee decision, the army politics, but also the inclusive governance of the country. i want to thank all our guests as your mother sanger passing movie lama and felix and the hinder and thank you for

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