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source so rare. while the sale of this dinosaur was for over $6000000.00, it's not the most expensive dinosaur ever sold. that title will go to a tyrant, a source rex. it's all for over $31000000.00 in 2020. another dinosaur sold for more than 12000000. and well, that might be a good thing for the buyers and even the auction houses. it's not necessarily a good thing for science. there's worry about the ethics of all of this. many paleontologist say they're concerned that dinosaurs specimens in private hands means that they potentially are no longer available for research. there are not very many specimens of gorgeous or is all the others are in museums and one more being sold you might say, oh, well, it's only one, but if there's only a few, right, that's a lot of information that we lose and you say, well why are you losing it? well, for one, you have no guarantee that whoever buys it is going to allow access to scientists.
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the new owner will not only get the dinosaur, but now be able to give it a name gabriel's onto alj is either new york. ah, this is al jazeera, these, the top stories, ukrainian forces, say their troops on the front line, a stepping up a counter offensive and curse long. a strategic bridge is now out of action of the ukrainian forces, hit it with long range rockets key. it says it targeted 5 russian strongholds around the city on thursday. john hendrick is in the port city of odessa with mol, in the dawn best region in eastern ukraine, ukrainian officials have warned residence to leave. they say, if they don't leave, they risk having power, water, food, medicine, heat and communications cut off. and we also learned a little more about what happened at a hotel in back moot in eastern ukraine. we, there was a strike on that hotel, according to ukrainian officials. that was
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a russian strike. earlier. we reported that there was one day at that number. his now increased to for a while back says it won't give sure lanka, financial assistance until it puts economic reforms in place. the countries being plunged into a deep financial crisis in 2019 july because new president has promised to get the country back on track. the u. s. and chinese presidents have held more than 2 hours of talks and what's being described as a 10th phone call. shooting thing is warned joe biden over taiwan saying he shouldn't, as he put it, play with fire. family of journalists, algebra journalist, rena barclay. i have made an impassioned plea for us petitions to support an independent investigation into her killing. they have the support of 80 members of congress. scream was shot dead by the way the forces, while on assignments in the occupied westbank and may protest against guineas military john to have brought the capital con creek to a standstill. organize and say one demonstrate it was killed and confrontations
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with security forces. the unrest began just before the head of the regional block echo us. the military rule is, had shortened, the time table for transition to civilian rule from 3 to 2 years. i think no confirmation from the french president to manual con, the has met saudi crown. prince mohammed been so man at the least a palace. european countries are trying to find alternative sources of energy to reduce their dependence on russian, oil and gas. the headlines and use continues hair on al jazeera right off the inside story. i'll see after that i, for now talk to al jazeera. we ask, so the rebounds you speak of is clearly coming at a high cost for airlines and the industry. what's going wrong? we listen, you were part of the, i'm struggling in the 19 seventy's. do you have any regrets? no, we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter. on al jazeera, people in east and democratic republic of congo, won't you?
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and to leave, they say the mission has failed to keep them safe. several civilians and peacekeepers have been killed in days of unrest. so if you and troops can't keep the peace, who can this isn't? i saw ah, a long walk into the program. i'm him are on con, people in eastern democratic republic of congo, say they've had enough of un peacekeepers at least 12 civilians, and 3 members of the local un mission known as moscow had been killed in days of protest. dozens have been wounded. ah, demonstrate his attack, you and bass is in at least 4 cities in the provinces of north and south. keep you . they say you and troops fell to protect them from arm groups including m $23.00. some protesters say he's keepers open fire on them. the you and in eisner's accused
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protesters of snatching weapons from congolese police and the humans children, agents. he says kids have been manipulated into joining the unrest. little was not that, but did want to go with congo as our heritage congos for the congo. louise, ever since venus go came here, they have done nothing. nothing. people have their throats that every day. while we are meant to have a un mission to keep people safe, the population is being massacred. they're being kill like sheep. in the presence of that mean ask, are there, oh, when they go home, we're going to take care of things ourselves. they say they don't have the means to combat the m. 23 rebels. so we're going to defend ourselves on our own. if they don't leave today, we're going to keep demonstrating until they do. the urine says attacks on its peacekeepers may constitute a war crime. it's chief of peacekeeping is due to arrive in the country on friday. the situation today can be disguised as a friday,
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a normal friday if you wish. because with the advocacy we've made with the government since monday, the prime minister there have been some reinforcement of national security forces on the ground, securing our bases and installations. we was forced troops on contingency to ensure that securities restore, we do have pockets of a still a in security, particularly in south q in our territory. in particular, un peacekeepers have been in democratic republic of congo from on 22 years. more than $16000.00 military personnel and police are protecting civilians and supporting the government's peace efforts. most of the forces come from pakistan, india and bangladesh. moscow has a budget of more than a $1000000000.00 a year. it's mandate was extended for another year. last december. its troops have
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struggled to contain violence from mom, groups and east. in may, 2021. the congolese government placed the north akiva and its hoary provinces, under what it called a state of siege. since then, the number of civilian deaths has risen sharply. ah, let's, we're going to guess in brussels as your mother sang, a research of the democratic republic of congo and amnesty international. in the eastern kong lea city of goma passive movie, lamar found an executive director at the action and development initiative for the protection of women and children. she joins us on skype and from til burg. in the netherlands. felix and hinder and independent research are focusing on conflict. peace and justice, and the great lakes region of africa. a warm welcome to you all. i'd like to begin in the netherlands with felix in the end, after 22 years. surely this is now a failure of the un peacekeeping mission and they just need to leave. i always knew all saying things, of course,
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i guess much thing about that trailer to deal with what expectation to your hob about to you and post is having a good contact on indicating that the out see that you went there. i've been keeping mission, not a piece making make mission. sometimes the legalistic knew all about them them to death, to been meaningless. but in many contexts we, we know from an up on a peer perspective, un rarely mixed piece un tries to keep peace between belligerents. but the idea of making this really more of a time is left to listen to the access to the diplomatic. it's a and many other channels that you make. yes, there is a lot to say about money for what he has done and what he's not have not done, but the expectation that $1.00 is going to go there in the country of plus $100000000.00 people. so plus 1000000 square kilometers and make peace even with their fossil $20000.00 flaws. puff and l was
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a little bit naive. i would say not being said, of course, yes, that have been coming in terms of what is called get involved with different actors, both local actors, how much they are involved, and how much they are activated in their own identity, in making peace or in picking that sort of thing. we make it interesting point here they've, the peacekeeping forces are about, about the peacekeeping, not peace making. but it seems to me, if you've lost the support of the population, then you are actively actually encouraging violence, which is what's been happening in the eastern democratic republic of congo. so is the peacekeeping mission of failure in europe? i concur with most of what the other discussion has it. i think it's, it's a bit a mixed results when you see what the situation was. 22 years ago,
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when the you, when functions i've been in the or see between the embedded your end to try and make sure that the piece agreement was respected and where we are today. the u. s. has played an important role in your shoring lusaka and there's some c t protocols are meant in the cool. is there a united you know, back in 999. when you went, mission to congo was created, was split into 3 big pots with 3, with 2 or 3 big rebellion rebellions and the government in contessa. and then you will have to, to a certain extent, green re, re nice to the country. it also helped electro and democratic
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processes. the election is in 20 democrats conditions in 26 where largely supported by the international community, including the u. one. now when it comes to p 2 piece making or p skipping, what it's true that you when does more to make peace. but actually it was the 1st time you one was trying to make b in 2013. the un security council created the 4th and eventually brigade, the monday of fighting and dismantling groups. it had an offensive monday. it was the 1st time in the you, when you started in the when peacekeeping mist history that you, when a parisian was event, an offensive group with groups. and it succeeded in defeating the m 23
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back in 2014. but ever since it has also gone, it's a sleepy so yeah, the answer, the straight answer to your question is that it's a mixed result. there have been successes and there are many failures which can explain the frustration is expressed by the people in the streets of north keep recent in recent days, but also in recent years. this is not the 1st time there is an uprising against the you would have been menu praising against you, and this is just the last one was for you and have it was. well, let's bring him pass him obama. now from a go. my posse, the same question to you, has a un peacekeeping mission failed. i think actually it sounds
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as if you had seen that there is a huge session, actually not q regarding the departure of when you score across the country. and especially in the san democratic republic of congo, where there are too many people killed every day. and people in the streets have been k, p a p, and a new school because they have been in the country for more than 20 to here. and we think that this is too much time, and this is the impact on the grounds. and you know, this is like a big mission of the united nation. it was a key. what's the r c or we have been seeing on the ground is that still
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young are still killed, women are still right and we can say that the situation has been the same for 22 years now. and for me, if they can't do the mission, i think it's time for them to go and try and keep the companies that are meant to protect the colonies. if you then that key or clean did that you do come with government. felix. patsy has just said that and she works for the protection of women and children that women and children are being failed by this un peacekeeping force that it is a failure and perhaps is time to try something else. what is that? something else is there is something else. that's exactly quite a very important question, i guess so raised here. hold this quote around that. been it want to live on my
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also, my uncle would be probably not the father of the about that any un innovation comes somehow to see the voucher about it. we don't have you any intervention in many countries into words. it's simply because, let's say authorities in both countries, including in the security world, are able to perform the basic functions about a made. that being said, what is what has been done because 1st are grimaldi of the broken nature of what is politics of armed activities that are prevalent in the country. keep in mind that this is an area which has reported more than more than $100.00 different groups m 20 to be one of them are minute reports of un quoting and every document the ramp of human rights violations by the congress army. one of the recent both for example, that distance turns,
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but also to mention what is many report has been documented or have to commit to dollar bills. such outputs, the complexities of some, even the army commander in force, for example, in the hostility, even in nourishing the different groups. because being on their thoughts who is a source of income has become a business. yeah. so i'm not making this a fact that i recorded being faith relying on this existing structure, all of a sudden, after the patch of pneumonia school to perform the basic function of protection of shit and given civilians back molly's call has been still reported for protecting over the years we've all should come back up, we can, we can go through, would be a little bit nice. it's very important to think of to think about and to, to look at 1st and foremost, that it or the fact that much of the failures we had mentioned around monte school do somehow mir, all the many failures,
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even even bigger failures of what is politics in many sense, so either very national, local and and are, and if you regionally, or if you will. so did it it, it would be presumptuous to say that all of a sudden broken go live. a protest will be operational and capable church to, to ensure a piece that he has not been. let's let that feel that. let's put that point to felix certain, felix. let's put him to point to home of as anger. some of it there is no other. busy option is there, that has to be a un peacekeeping force because kong, the eastern congo isn't ready to police itself to protect it. so of course, there are options, there have to be options. and these are mrs subtly military options. because when we are talking about the un peacekeeping, we'll pick making mission. there have been, you know, a proposal by day africa community to deploy
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a regional force. there is an ongoing joint operation between the committees and uganda. army, there is an emergency that has been in place for over one year. so the response to the coffee in years has been largely military. and i think what comes before it is the, you win or the you, it's the military approach to the, to the company to resolve the conflict. and this has led behind the root causes of this conflict, which includes the impunity, enjoyed by perpetrators over more than 28 years in the industry journey, but also in the neighboring countries such as ronda and ganga and others who have participated or have have committed serious crimes. when they saw you,
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there has been no accountability, almost no accountability for those crimes. and this has allowed them to commit them over and over again. when you see what is happening with m 23, that's one of the reason. 10 years ago they were military defeated, but nobody was held account. now they are back again. they can commit again. they can again, rape and you because they know that for sure there will be no consequence. they have been run this officer been or in your seat. they have not been helped check. kimberly's officials still now ah, plus not being held to account under causes includes economic and so showing. and you know, all the issues around the management of natural resources and also policing issues, the legitimacy of our inventory, sha mother, we are,
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we are running out of time. and i do want to come to the other guest percy. i want to bring this to you as well. what john movers seems to be saying is that actually it's a failure of politics, not just of peacekeeping, but this is the best bad option, isn't it? this, that the route that the politics aren't going to change themselves overnight. so a peacekeeping force is the only way to keep the peace. surely. yeah, i didn't really bud cheeks on my side. i think the government has a duty to protect the population. but when we are saying that they are having a big support of the un mission, i think everything should be different because as you may know, minute call has it because they have money. they have
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people, i mean the soda and put on debt to put the government to fight different rebels. we have been the region, you know, actually that the count more than 100 arm, reboot the region. and from from you we can count on new one. we shouldn't be the way, but by the un mission for the people who in my pc or even who to where are we both are actually so many human rights and what we want to see, what they want to see is, you know, they just need peace they need to be able to go and work
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on the land and try to find something and then the new school and they come with doesn't matter what to do that i think every huge program for people and felix, why is this happening now? why these attacks taking place to day? i mean, of course, because you just mentioned some of the issues really have been going on or has been that there is some kind of fatigue, rightly so justified kind of got by the population. was still very much victimized . the boy whose lives are not met about, but by the college 42, i can understand this aren't got, is direct that, that one of the actors that is visible on how's it might and power that is believed to be able to solve the issue. but keep in mind also that copy lives on the head
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for narrative, you're happy and that can be quite, very dangerous and can be late. so what we know is that this lead to sparkle violence occurred on, on friday if you didn't july. so this month, the head of the senate held from this region to rebel from the south depot program for now. speeches, income, paying more info. my. i didn't book of where he basically said money needs to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to live. he did it in very popular way. what those we want to leave can utilize johan and so on. so that's kind of popular in itself. so, i mean, academically, you can go and look for how much impactful factor speech is correlated with the bio stuff today. but it's a difficult not to read that to get it. so that is bad. but also going to be that, that, that i've been for example, say in baby i'm on august the climate the day,
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which is, which is the presence of monies for which, which is not doing it. but as i said, you really i read away that as part so really the broad structural issues. sorry, physics, we're getting out of time and i do when i come to the other guest, show me of just very quickly do you agree with what felix has just said? the actual, some congolese politicians are using monasco as a bashing they can batch them, is popular and that's actually leading to more anger. and then more attacks. definitely definitely. there are for you when use a victim of a lack of leadership in the are see, but also it has its own short comments for sure. and i think the most important now is to know what, what, what needs to be done as the international community is paying for. it seems to be paying more attention to what is going on there. the secretary said secretary
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clinton is apparently traveling to the region next week. there should be now be addressing the root causes of that conflict and not just continue to invest in the military response which has shown itself limitations and its failures are over the last decades. there has to be accountability for those who committed crimes and other other issues have to be resolved through dialogue. our political processes pass. he would all these root causes, then if we, if we, to attack and to change the recalls as of this, it's not about monasco being in the country. it's about the root causes. but what all those recalls, i think and my sand that on when is being in the country and made me good if they can realize damnation. i've got some guy different people who try to let me place you in
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the country. but you can remember that this is not the 1st time that people are cleaning departure, new school, you send them a practical comma. because most of the time we can see people not far from the bed of the new school. and this is an acceptable so i think it's very important that people can still continue to claim because if they, it's right for people, if they think that they are not doing the mission, but really strongly done. what's happened in the next 2 days where people have used a huge. 9 to, to claim it by new school because i think if we want clem
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departure, we had to do these you know, violence way officially. booking. we've got to make this happen. felix is very quickly, very, very quickly. you've just heard what the last, who guess about is there anything that you think is positive about moscow's involvement in congress within the last step that we pants at the armed activities of even the security that we could still commit thought processes. it's a very well recorded, that's money because it keeps set an individual that lives in the d. c. so it's still a force that is needed. i'm. i see always been it for the past when it's called to be or should always be tied to the thing is politics including competitive decision, the army politics, but also the inclusive governance of the country. i want to thank all our guests as your mother sanger passing movie lama and felix and the hinder and thank you for
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