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hello, walk into the program. i'm wrong car. the west could accidentally stumble into a nuclear war with russia or china. that's the warning from britain's national security advisor. steven lovegrove, who says communication channels between the west and its rivals of collapsed russia's invasion of ukraine. he says the clearest example of this breakdown diplomacy fell to prevent a war moscow and keep haven't held face to face talked since march. lovegrove says the conflict is just the beginning of a broader contest for a successor to the post cold war international order. he's warning of new security risks as countries develop more advanced weapons and compete in both outer space and cyberspace. the solution that a dialogue between the west, russia and china, during the cold war, we benefited from a series of negotiations and dialogues that improved our understanding of soviet doctrine and capabilities and vice versa. this gave both of us

a higher level of confidence that we would not miss calculate our way into nuclear war. today, we do not have the same foundations with others who may threaten us in the future. and particularly with china. here the u. k. strongly supports president, a biden's proposed talks, as with china as an important step. trust and transparency built through dialogue. should also mean that we can be more active in calling out noncompliance and misbehavior when we see it. ah, let's begin, i guess in london as sir hale asher, a nuclear non proliferation and discernment analyst in santander, spain. harry's party, a, c, e o of the consults. he rasmussen global, and in to lose france. alexander, he took a lecture in modern european history at queen's university belfast, a warm welcome to each of you. want to begin in london where the ursa hilcher. there is a very famous film doctor strange law, which is almost a parody, but also a warning about the,

about the way 2 countries can get into an accidental nuclear war. it was designed as a parody, but a lot of what was in that film. a lot of the central tenant of foreign policy is that there are back channels on those back channels will always save us. but now we have stephen lovegrove national security advisor to the u. k, saying those by channels don't exist. is he right? well, you know, it's no secret to you or your audience and run that. we're in a major, russia west crisis, and that includes the ongoing conflict in ukraine, but it's actually much wider than that. and i think we all have to ask ourselves, what kind of russia west crisis do we want? do we want a deep cold war, or do we want, how it was during the latter part of that period where we actually communicated with the adversary and we worked together to try to muddle through despite our different worldviews at the moment. it is true, the lack of dialogue between the us and russia, and nato and russia is putting us in a very precarious position because it's not just the back channel forms of

communication that are necessary. we also need a very, very resilient and smart front end channel communication. so for example, between presidents biden and put in and if we are to stumble into some sort of a nuclear conflict, i'm currently not competent, for example, that the hotline that exists between washington and moscow would be able to technically stand up to the challenges that would happen in a degraded environment in the middle of a nuclear war, for example. so steven love growth is a comments at c s i s. and you see, yesterday were very important and it's a very, very important reminder that we need to make sure that we have the ability to communicate clearly and smartly to the adversary because that's how we got out of the cold war. and that's how we'll also get out of this current, russia less crisis. let me bring in february plus here, braces and not just about russia. china is also a very big concern for not just even love growth, but a communications with china generally. but we're in

a position now where perhaps we don't need that kind of communication, that big red telephone, this drones the satellites. nowadays we've got different types of tech. you have monitoring going on. you have other channels, those traditional methods of thinking about it. not really, but i see what is not up to date east the way we speak, including about nuclear deterrence. so i think as i did disagree with the previous speaker, it's not the lack of dialogue because it actually is not for the like of having try to engage, especially with let me put in. i mean, president, my call nathan, he said the u. s. administration of all try to reach out to the russian president is the lack of interest on the side to a true for me and meaning for me engage with the west and try to minimize the risks of, of hopefully them in cedar and every fall. and i'll tell you what we have to focus

on on our side, is really what channel language we want to speak and, and how nuclear for supper. the fact that let me pretty used that the nuclear agitated nuclear flag, they early on ease warf aggression against you. cray, that did not really get a response for the western nuclear powers, was actually a confirmation that the west has lost the beat of the nuclear difference grammar. and really 1st to return to grammar before engaging and meaningful dido. i let me bring in, alexander, he tells her it makes a brief, makes a very interesting point about learning grammar and, and language and history. the 62 cuban missile crisis. everybody knows that the, the russians put missiles into cuba, which freaked out america was 9 miles away from the u. s. pain. and what everybody forgets is actually the only reason those missiles were in cuba is because the americans put missiles and turkey, which was in russia's backyard effectively, there's always been a disconnect between when it comes to the language and the framing of all of this

when it comes to russia when it comes to china, that they're always the bad guys. is that been unhelpful? well, i think kind of beyond good or bad guys. that's not, you know, relevant anymore horse. russia is better, chinese, bad, so far as the west is concerned, you know, there's nothing to discuss at the moment. so, you know, those cases are concert. if you just go back to the initial 60 to massage rises, you know, that's when the red lines were put when the direct phone that was split between washington multiple to prevent anything like this happening again. and that's really, it was created the gold what a security architecture of mutual deterrents and so forth. was this very of dangerous cries, which led later led to agreements in the early seventies about limitations on arms and so forth. so i'm afraid we would, we,

having now i ease this. another crisis are very similar to that, that one where the red lines are blurred. those are, there is some communication behind the lines. the, a russian military speaking to the route lies with american military. and so forth, but at the same time will read lots of it. look, we having a very radio build up all of our military assistance to degrade the range of massage and so forth. which it previously, if, even for my 3 months ago, that would be, i think so, and russians haven't really responded this. so we're gonna, washington was this line where we were to know when the russians were actually say that enough is enough at the mike, enough escalated for their own, their own. so that's, that's what, what is the injured, the more it is not so much like a communications, but this blurred lines which are very mr. nuisance of the not to 6 to ah, when the last at the music i was ever so i think i grew with the, with the 1st big that, you know, there are actually very, very interested,

lenient. okay, so that's russia, that's china. that's a, you know, and that's the u. s. and that's the west and there is a big red telephone and we just need to probably use it a bit more than we are using it. but there isn't a big red telephone to north korea, to pakistan, to india, to israel. and those guys have nuclear weapons and neither of them of signed the non liver ration tree sale. you know, what, what is the, what is the danger of those states? those small estates with nuclear weapons? sure. let me make 2 quick point just to respond to my follow panelists. the 1st is, i totally agree with the brief. i think the main comment that i was trying to make is that we need resilient crisis communication channels. so that if this conflict in ukraine spirals into a wider, for example, nato russia conflict that we have the ability for our leaders, whether on the nuclear brink or already past the nuclear brain, to avert complete calamity. and my 2nd point is that a part of deterrence is,

of course, being able to communicate effectively to your adversary. and if you don't have any communication channels open and you're simply relying on rhetorical posturing in public and in the media, that's a really dangerous place to be. and because it offers very little private off rams to be able to de escalate the situation. and when it comes to your comment just now about their already being a read telephone and, but we don't have them with the other states. this is why i'm nervous because that bilateral channel, between washington and moscow, there isn't one between washington and beijing as the leader level in the same that's created in the same way. and there also are very limited military to military channels between these 3 great powers. moreover, there is no way for any of the leaders of any of these countries, these 3 countries, and also the wider 9 countries in the world with nuclear weapons to be able to communicate multilaterally. so there's no way right now for the president bite in

president putin, president she to get all on the phone at once, especially in a degraded environment in the middle of say, a nuclear conflict. and we need something like that in terms of the smaller nuclear power there rising emerging nuclear powers. of course, it's very dangerous and they all affect the international security environment in different ways. right now in north korea is expanding its nuclear arsenal. iran, it's becoming closer and closer through a threshold state because the lack of agreement between the last in iran, on restoring the 2015 nuclear deal. these are all very worrying developments. and in addition to the ongoing war in ukraine, they're going to factor in very heavily on over the course of the next month as the international community. a convenes in new york to discuss that 52 year old nuclear nonproliferation treaty the and p t, which is really that cornerstone international treaty that governs the world in terms of setting standards and also creating the pathways to global disarmament and

keeping a cap on proliferation at the same time, up for british the n p t, the nuclear non proliferation treaty has failed in many ways because india has nuclear weapons pakistan has them. israel has them, north korea has them. but there's no real communication between india and pakistan right now. and that is probably the closest flash point that we have for bruce. do you think that needs to be stronger? and p t or at least or, or doesn't need to be more up better police rather. and those countries need to sign up. we need to push them to sign up frankly f e, the success of the in p t that the failure has been contained to a handful of countries. and nf, this is the key here to this discussion today is a lot of non nuclear countries are watching though the war and ukraine and to see how and whether the west will be sufficiently support. can you credit to the

extent where the ukrainians can prevail? somehow in the battlefield and in the negotiations. and if we were to fail to do so, i figured a lot of countries who currently are not a nuclear weapon. countries will consider what is considered the ultimate guarantee and which is nuclear weapons. so i think what we do here in ukraine in fundamentally what is a conventional conflict, could have some very important repercussions, but about how the p t is holding or not. so that's my answer a to kind of connect the n p t to the job political reality of today until is alexander as he's off. would you agree with that? well i think and of the, the point about that, i think everybody knows that the ultimate guarantee is nuclear weapons. if you look at the bill, what happened to kathy, we're here and if

a great to give up is up and simultaneous later, you ended up in addition. so what, you know, the south korea, north korea, north where, well, and russia is also is so bold to your grade because it knows that natal, certainly united states are not prepared to risk nuclear. we'll, we'll ukraine. so we are leaving and age when nuclear weapons are essentially the ultimate guarantee, which gives you superpower status. and the question of how to prevent it from spreading. busy further isn't, is an important one, but you know, much directory that's a big state such as seems you focused on israel opposed to the system to be iran as well if they can, we will wire it because because basically is how the world works. unfortunately, these days you care weapons senior friend gives you extra steam advantage. those

of putting pressure on this i've got the key point about the regional wireless. if we're going to be there early point is that the nuclear weapons logic and the regional threat. ready in are awesome threat as a global threat. cancel via $55.00 nuclear power service, nuclear power actually bridges to struck anywhere else in the world. which not said that the case with alice but was working. but yeah, that's valid. we are already living in the world. well, to go into security and there's no didn't begging for it. the ultimate guarantee of security then is nuclear weapons rule seems to be agreed on that it seems to be a doctrine. certainly you mentioned iran that i want to talk about iran. iran is got very close to being a threshold state as has been described. it hasn't said it has a nuclear weapons program has admitted having a nuclear program. ah,

the j c. p. away the iran nuclear deal effectively froze all those tensions and brought iran back into the world. but then that treaty was ripped up by prison. donald trump and the u. s. is finding it incredibly difficult to renegotiate that treaty sale. ah, this is a failure, again of the west of america, because certainly, no one trusts the america will stick to it still, that's the iranian way of thinking right now. why should we trust the us if they just going to rip up a deal? so why not get nuclear weapons? while there is a growing chorus of voices in terror on that feel that the only way for them to have the right leverage to be able to negotiate a sustain deal that they can trust with washington and with other world powers is to increase their status from having a very rich nuclear program to one of that of a nuclear threshold state,

or perhaps even getting a nuclear weapon. unfortunately, i would be extremely risky for the entire global security architecture because it would probably incite some sort of a military conflict in the region, particularly with israel. so we really do need to get washington and toronto agree to the roadmap that was already largely decided in march of this year. but that both sides are dragging their feet on. washington has to make up for the fact that it was indeed the u. s. abrogation of the deal under president trump that caused this trust deficit in the 1st place. iran continued to comply with the deal for an entire year before gradually reducing its implementation. of course, we also now had president in bite in come into office and dragging his feet for a number of months. and then now as we're getting closer and closer to the us mid term elections, it seems that there isn't a political will power in the white house to get the jcp restoration over the

finish line. and i really call a president biden, who in october, before he came into the white house ro, a very compelling cnn off. at that said, there's a smarter way to be tough on iran, which really made clear argument for why it's so important to get the g p a back in place. so that we are in a position to be able to think more about the other issues that we have within iran, with iran, for example, it's expanding ballistic missile, running out of time, know what to bring, you know, other guesses as well. busy families, you've heard what sale has been talking about that we do need to bring iran back to negotiating table. american does seem to be dragging its feet. but what is the incentive for the west to try and force the americans back to negotiate table? is there any, is there any pressure anybody can put on the when i see the incentive is also upon the americans to avoid as the previous speaker said regional coffee than and possibly original stroke, nuclear conflict. and you have to read the recent us israel john declaration,

which is actually very clearly are where the u. s. is giving to the sake of israel, clear guarantees that it will not allow a nuclei iran for happening. and if that's a feed appear signal to date that the u. s. is coming to not to have a nuclear weapon or state or in the region about form of his israel. and this is not mentioned in the jointly corrosion. so i think this clarity here, or whether the young mistress has be dragging his feet that, that we not command. but if he clearly it has an interest in finding a diplomatic solution. and if in the you is or so, i'm trying to do so for alexander, sorry, or to loose the, you are these traditional negotiating bodies, nato example, those, these things, these institutions were formulated, post cold war to try and freeze detentions,

to some extent. they have worked, but we're looking at a different landscape now when there isn't actually a cold war any more. are we moving towards the cold war again? she think well, i think you've come stuff in the same river twice. so without moving towards will be something very different and of course the cold war was defined in pieces, wanted to follow us. and there was also very intense ideological stand up between them, capitalism, against communism, and so forth. so i think that's likely to be repeated 1st of all, that will be much more central suppose in the world of china, russia, europe, and the american protection will be de ron of course, and other others. so it's going to be going to be just 2 blocks will be more more dispersed structures in politics and logically again, you know, there's something different in terms of nationalism and or

great follow. rather, i would say kind of going back to brief postal war scenario when you have several paul was going to trying to reach other. but you know, you could, nuclear weapons of course is the, is the key. and i would say that, you know, if the americans come to iran, now the really desperate need more oil on the market and the iran is the only and this place where over the next oil when come, when there are no, it was bands you can do it now i don't see how we're going to do it again. you run it will eventually those patients with it will be very, very great. both of you. right. so it's all very, very dangerous stuff. and. busy to make a declaration with israel that they were not allowed, but told him that they're going to go to war with israel with it with the wrong. it's really plausible in terms of americans,

by experience in iraq and so forth. iraq as much already. we, we all running out, we are running out how to do when it comes, everybody else. there is another way of dealing with this. and the americans have actually done this to great effect in pakistan by supporting pakistan, by giving it money by supporting its military. it's great, a whole bunch of other problems about somebody's kept the nuclear weapons in their silos or in spain. fabrice, do you think that's a, a good strategy? and the so given back his son strikes, we call the proliferation of some nuclear technology to other countries including north korea. so i will, i think pakistan was more a policy affair complete where the u. s. and no other choice, but just to, to basically embrace a pakistan new care status and try to contain the issue and make sure that the rifle to cause way in place to avoid a miscalculation and regional conflict. again,

visit the india. so i don't see days that there's a clear model here to follow. i think we have to, to, to, to think it in itself. but, but i do think that iran has as much interest as to where to find a diplomatic solution in like the british speaker say they feel so obviously in energy or supply dimension to it. and, and, but the meet terms, obviously not going to help with the republicans fiercely against what is her, the hope a bite on the mistress is trying to go to the primitive from iran just very quickly . so hail in london were stumbling in the dark of robbery says the actually we need a new strategy, but we don't know what that strategy is. is there anything that you think a leads us out this darkness? is there a new strategy? absolutely. dialogue on risks reduction and making sure that we deal with the fact that we have nuclear weapons. if you want to have nuclear weapons or you have,

then you have to live with the responsibility and the consequences of them and explain to others how you will deal with the related challenges, right? so it's extremely important that all of the leaders of these key countries am come together and are able to make sure that they're correct. scaffolding is in place so that we mitigate crises and we mitigate conflict and war. so i think that the most important thing to do is to really have a deep reflection on how deterrence in arms control. not only have always complimented one another, but that they always had to compliment one another to get us through really difficult periods, like the cold war. we don't want to get into another deep cold war with russia. we want to try to mitigate the risks and learn from the past mistakes that we've made so that we can insure the safety and survivability of the entire world. and you know, that's what it is at stake is really global peace and security because nuclear weapons have the ability to annihilate the entire existence of this planet. i want to thank

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