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miles of gallons a day and instead of using firewood, they now steal gas to distill the cold. military commanders say there are hundreds of these illegal distilleries scattered across the oil, producing delta. in addition to bleeding the economy dry. the operations also damage the environment because they are not properly equipped to process crude oil . the blunder of nigeria oil has left the country unable to meet or pick quarter activities are going on as i speak to you now. as so much collaboration were with the communities to make sure that there was a board in the process of protecting his assets. the company looked up to the renewed clamp down to return to profitability. but with all thieves continuously changing their tactics. it could be a long while before that will happen. how many degrees al jazeera in nigeria is all producing, delta ah,
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this is out there, and these are the top stories she at need and looked harder. asada is calling on all iraqis to join. protest is camped inside parliament is supported storm the building on saturday for the 2nd time in a week and a modeling and overhauling political system and constitution. in while a rival group has held counter protests against what he calls a suspicious clue, has been heavy security in and around the green zone to keep the 2 rival fractions apart. backlog of the law had, was at those count demonstrations in baghdad and sent this update. both of them have different agendas. they have different affiliations, and they have different plans at these protests as it say that they are, have come here to day, as they say, to preserve and protect the legitimacy of their state, the legitimacy of the state. and that he did do to regain or to retain the legitimacy of their parliament that is occupied by supporters as they called them.
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they also say that the, the are rejecting the qu by also the support us. but whether or not they will stay on like also the supporters at we don't know for certain did they say that there is still waiting for instructions from their leaders to leave or stay? the 1st ship, or carrying ukrainian grain has now left the port of odessa is travelling under an international deal reached last month between the you and turkey, ukraine, and russia. the rezone is at sierra the own flagged vessel carrying more than 26000 tons of corn u. s. how speaker nancy pelosi has arrived in singapore, the 1st stop of her tour of the region. she's also visiting malaysia, south career in japan. it's still unclear whether posey will include a stop in taiwan singapore as a prime minister has called for stable us china relations. beijing has warned her against visiting the self governing island,
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which it claims as part of its territory. the chief of mia mars at military has extended the state of emergency for another 6 months. it's been in place since the agenda deposed the government of unsung sushi in phoebe last year. so she is in detention and has been charged with several offences. wanted to in groups say more than 2000 people have been killed and 15000 arrested and cracked down on pro democracy protests. since these are the headlines. the news continues here in al jazeera. that's after inside story to stay with us. ah rushes and vicious naval strategy that americans, as the us is the biggest threat,
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has global maritime goals, is promised to equip warships with unprecedented weapons. so what does this new naval strategy need, and how will it be viewed in washington? this is inside story. ah, how they're welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle, president vladimir persian has announced his planned expansion of russia's naval power. singling out the u. s. as the biggest obstacle putin signed a new naval doctrine on sunday, cures in washington and of trying to dominate the world's oceans. the 55 page document states that nato's movements threaten moscow's borders and details applying to strength and rushes geopolitical position in a speech to mark navy day fusion did not directly mention the war in ukraine.
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instead, he thanked military personnel and pledge to defend russian interests in the black and as of seas. i was mentioning that i need to use the one. we have openly outline the boundaries and zones of rushes, national interests, both economic and strategic. first of all, these are our arctic waters. some of the waters of the black are caught and wearing sees as well as the baltic and curl straits. but we will insure their protection firmly and by all means for all of us, the motherland is a sacred concept and its defense is one of the highest duties and the meaning of life for each and every one of us must be very, ah, let's bring it our guests in moscow is sergey markov director of the institute of political studies. he's also a former spokesman for president blame at person in vienna is wolfgang put ty, a security defense analyst, and former austrian defense attache. and new york is lawrence brennan, a retired
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u. s. navy captain and adjunct professor of law at fordham university. very one. welcome to you all. i thank you for joining us. i'd like to begin with you, mr. markov. if i may thing, as you were, a former spokesman said president putin and may have some insight into the thinking in his, in his circle. i just want to get your take on this new naval doctrine, what it means. and i guess more importantly what it signifies, just a ball, i think it will be up your documents or not actually government has to be changed because now and you would have been where we're going to say well, malik, and i'm sure you're not perfect or wrong. democrat, to get elected ukraine imposed on democratic it seems to people and
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support aggressiveness against people in done with price. and we gave, you know, we go in that she also can see it. but it was just teresa and lit by united states of america and to each member including conjures jones. so russian needs, in this new reality to change as a bunch of documents. libel strategy is it's, that's why it's kind of describes that you're not gonna say is that god made us so rare to do to, to introduce and you're not to attempt to book the rasa is present as i live, you know, from a ocean and see it's quite
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a few. okay. i want to pause you there and just pick up on something you said disconnected describing. this is a new reality and positive to wolfgang puts di, obviously, in terms of the reasoning for the war and ukraine. the position of ukraine in the west is, is somewhat different, but i just wanna get your take on this new naval doctrine is this does a signify a new reality? well, i would say it's a new naval doctrine is also somehow a reaction to later enlargement. nathan lodge went into an off regard to finland and sweden, his weakness that used to egypt, possession of russia in the north, significantly. especially in the case of a major war between russia and nato. natal would have to come to present the naval base who sought in northern speed, the more monce candidate at the corner where peninsula big regard to the development from the previous 2015 doctrine. i would say it's no surprise,
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it's more or less a logical development. ok, mr. lawrence brandon, you're, you're a navy man. what's your sort of reaction to this naval doctrine? and what do you make of the timing of the slee rusher is at war with ukraine, but is there any importance around the timing of this? there could be terrible importance about the timing of this, this undue centuries of traditional maritime law law, the high seas and undue is more than half a century, a very good naval relations between the former soviet navy and the right now the russian navy and the u. s. navy, in the dark days of the early 1900 seventies. soviet navy in the u. s. navy came to an agreement called the incident see agreement in the agreement to prevent the risk of unintentional or possibly accidental harm between their ships. it was during the time of great hostilities in the eastern mediterranean, among the arab nations and israel. and we've had good relations,
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annual meetings and resolution at, at lower levels of possible conflicts. we, we have agreements that supplement the law of the see. we have agreements, accept them, supplement the rule, the road rules of the road, and we have fairly good relationships. when i was on the aircraft, carrier limits that launched the grade to ran to try to rescue the american hostages. we always had a russian or then a soviet surface ship shadow up. we had some interesting communications at that time and got in trouble with president carter for sending hockey scores during the 1980 olympics. but they were professionally done. there were no real risks of collision, no real risks of weapons being fired accidentally or intentionally. this is the question then for a survey ma calls over in moscow. there's been a lot of discussion about this being a reaction to the expansion of nato. is that the reason for this naval doctrine
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house threatens, does russia feel right now about nato? are sure not so much concerned about a joint intimate. we know because those are to be just reaching between nato and good union and member. so you can live in union and say, we got that feeling and see them already being or nato. and that you said it was a defense to see them to put in all meetings. so they told me this is also a player. well, so it was all in the connection between nato and people. and so is this, it didn't, it didn't match. also was the reason why we were having so much
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a member. so where are you bringing in natal is because need to use as with a mission of ukraine, that i rushing into creating bias class to read to russia and to for a few india and to bite to stuff. it's what 3 doesn't quite sure because it, because i did it. but since you and talking to the know us no more russia interesting. kansas is elected in this naval on stage it russia going to sing about security or no traffic a way so called a me and for security issue also. and we want to defend,
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cease out of the way for any any of the favor for those countries doesn't apply such weight to be useful. russian records will be prioritized for today. okay, well i can post, i can see you want to jump in there before i get your response. i also want to ask you the main for it to russia. according to the doctrine is the strategic policy of the usa to dominate the world's oceans. is that true, is there a shift from the u. s. wanting to dominate the world waters? well, trust me if regards to a maple axis of sweden and finland, that reads a big difference for russia because for the time being both a partnership for peace. and now after the real full member of nato, at recess mutual defense clause, which makes the difference, there is an integration of both conference, intimate the command structure. and,
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and you may, the doctrine of russia campus also the perceived threat threat by these 2 additional made to countries by account for in the arctic. and we prefer to your question for the united states. that freedom of shipping, the freedom of global shipping lines, is by for strategic interest, survive strategic interests. in order to ensure this, the u. s. navy needs for him and paying his presence all over the rug. please speak regard to the clothes, shipping rules. in russia, new doctrine is a clear mismatch mismatch oxford. each got check, they said they bailable means, the russia maybe has about $210.00 westerns of beast, $1.00 to $10.00, west and about $55.00, a fully functional blue water ocean going vessels and submarines about half of them can be considered modern ships. this means it's unlikely that the russians will be able to threaten american c, control the falling somehow,
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the so called french shut and a quarter to maybe contact the 19th century, which means the aim is not so much to dominate this. he but to challenge the u. s. c control. all right, i'd like to come back to you so to get him out of college, do you agree with that assessment of russia's sort of strategy in terms of its naval power and sort of, how do you think all of this is likely to be viewed by the other side is likely to be viewed by the us. oh, where knows? is that idea to be different about what i mean? it can sink and warn americans, her head, what americans doing? i general and her a, all russia i can take it, move or shoes, international thinking as a country across it because it gives us an option to weep it. russia will be not week know because of them as a tech. so,
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and it's so want to put support that doesn't for them or devote. and we understand that there was a device, a tool, important to nudity swan is global nuclear potential reaches, are used by russia, physicals a by necessity monies for some kind of teaching patterns. s. d, a still a war to walk the most efficient in to well, a, but the situation in a warrior of the you couldn't do today, which would be the process, not just ukraine, but the keys are all, say, america, audience share your. i mean, you can split as issue is interaction needed to navia. there are
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conventional was appeared to be ignored, souls drawn, not so strong enough that why a russia been put in the mouse abuses, glen, to peel, turn your i needed to reach the naval seats for a convention. now, of course issue, we expect it to where you get it. we'll, we'll have to take part in. ok. well, going 1st i come back to you depending on which, unless you talk to the thought of the war, it was discussed that russia had failed in its initial aims. that wanted to go and take over ukraine or take over large parts of ukraine and it be done and that instead it's turned into a war of attrition. and that in fact, it wanted to, to take over to take control of the black sea. was that ever and i was, would russia ever have been able to do that? and if this is now a war of attrition, how well is russia placed to,
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to continue that? ok. at the beginning the russians fet, achieve or based on the value of wrong assumptions. if you'd not believe that the ukranian armed forces would put up if the persistence action assumption. busy was that the vast majority of the russian is living in ukraine, which joined the russian army in bonds. they did not believe that the west, including the united states, would be both serious anxious on russia and the favor. look on the military concept . the squeak effects the so called operation maneuver groups trying to reach yes or typical example for these wrong assumptions. they believed that they could get the key and they've all would be older. they will to prefer to install russia friendly government in key pieces. obviously faith and be have now changed approach the strategy, his message about it as of seth balk, attrition, and upon bus devona succeed in occupied the whole of the don bus. and if possible,
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this means if they're able to help eliminate the maturity of ukraine and forces they would aim also to attack or tessa and advance to, to occupy the whole black seacoast. if this is possible, we could see in the next weeks or months east ukraine was able to upload the resistance. this is certainly depends also on the amount of weapons deliveries from the west. lauren sprint and we've talked a lot about the strategy and the naval strategy, but i want to get a little bit specific about some of the announcements around this naval doctrine. so they're going to be hyper on it missiles on some ships. can you just explain to us, to our audience at home, what they are, what sort of challenges they present for potential combatants? short, egan, simplistic terms dessert kind of missiles which are on small russian naval combatants. have a range of approximately a 1000 kilometers and have
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a speed of about $500.00 nautical, which is also about 500 nautical miles. they have the speed of 9 times the speed of sound, which is nearly 7000 miles per hour. wow. their pass age to destroy safely in flight. now that doesn't mean they're accurate. that doesn't mean that they will lock on, but it means that those who are defending against those targets have to go back to the early flight errors, particularly towards the end of world war 2. and the japanese can cause the effects manned suicide planes. and the aircraft, and thier desert missile have to be destroyed before the watch. that means that the target is the ship carrying them right now. the publicity is that the ships that carry them are relatively small. so we had a rush enabled corvette for destroyer type ships, their ability to defend barry in integration. large groups are not, no,
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that's one thing that will have to be planned. i am sure that the us naval war college, the technical people in the navy are looking studying at this and coming up with counter proposals, how to respond to it before it happens. we also have to work in a world where we hope that no one begins unprepared, unannounced 1st, right? that's not the policy of the united states government. and hopefully is not the policy of russian government or any other civilized government in the world. just before we move on from you, mr. brandon, the much anticipated grain deal has finally gotten underway today, allowing ships from ukrainian ports to go through down the black sea and into the boss for us in installed to get much needed grain to avoid a, basically a worldwide food crisis. i mean, how tenuous is that, how dangerous is that? is there the potential for this to go wrong?
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so there's always potential for hazards to the sea. and most of those are relatively benign thing. that's why the insurers of lloyd's and until when in europe ensure maritime risk, that happens if there are certain excluded risks, war risks that are under special insurance in london, particularly not exclusively. and those are things we're looking at. but this grain from what i read earlier today is bound for lebanon, where there's desperate need if the russians have agreed to allow range leave. and the turkish government, which controls bosworth and the exit and entrance into the black sea turkey, a member of nato. if turkey permits that and supports it and there are no opposition to know hospitality, rangel work ok there still. and there are still uncertainty as to what really is going to happen. and if there is a blockade of grain graying, and economic warfare, and that for as, as he said,
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it does seem to be consensus among around among all parties about the importance of this working. so again, my call i thought come back to something you said talking about the, the arctic ocean, the importance of the arctic ocean is actually set out in this doctrine. why is it so important for russia, the arctic ocean? what's happening there to ocean are becoming more and more important for russia because your social because of global warming, now we see more opportunities for trade. so artic ocean bullying shaw course and it's, well, it's going to be a good, a good way to reach, getting replaced in ways
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including science channel and it's twice, almost twice less by kilometers in general. it could be, did it brooks for the boat or rational equipment or the global one? me as well. this one second, the, you know, the really big this or changing get the oil room. she in the article was you can, it's not so easy to do because of the ice is up. but now the new technology probably will go to do, and especially is just and he got articles and supplies just an or if you may know now developing global economy
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more and more energy wise source will be able to take get some oil. caution will be great. okay. all right. okay. well, thank just i'd like to cross over the. yeah. you want to say something or comment on on that yet. i just would like to add that the arctic is also significant because it's the federal and lounge area for russian ballistic missiles. submarines . brian, well that more control over the most can. i don't open at the ask you. c we've been talking there about, you know, having ports that are warm, water reports that can be accessed. how has russia tried to secure allies or pot news in the region to get poor access? i mean, syria has been a key ally through through the war and syria. what about egypt or thought personal greece or libya? whether one must not forget?
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the position of russia in africa is not that bad as it is frequently perceived in the west. there are many african countries to be warm and close relationship to moscow, and especially from resident to resident. so this must be all this kept kept in mind. and i would say there are several options for the russians to find. the naval base is in africa, especially on the african east coast. so with regard to libya for the time being, although there are russian mercenaries currently present in libya, i think it is highly unlikely, highly unlikely that there could be any living room that would allow the russians to establish a naval base in, let's say topic. why? because the relationship with the west europe is much more important for libya than the relationship with moscow. sure. lawrence, brandon, we've got about a minute left. i can see you want to add something there. please take the full sure . for more than a 100 years, russian and friendly naval forces and work together in the far north at the end of
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world war 11971900. 18 british us naval forces were at mass in ark, angel, and towards the end of the war in later years, us and other naval forces were in what was stock for many reasons. through the through world war 2. a lot of goods were transported from the united states to russia to be a lot of law stuck. and in 19181990 of the western allies were concerned that japan would try to seize what a bus stuck in the war more works in northern russia. so this is a long term problem with some good historical precedent. well, we're discussing at a conference. all right, well, have to leave it there. as you say, we could have an entire conference just on that for time. no, thank you very much job. i guess my calls will can post die. and lawrence brennan, thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our
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