compliance with the n p t. others consider that a threat, and it's engaged in reckless, dangerous nuclear saber rattling with its president warning that though supporting ukraine self defense, quote, risky consequences such as you have never seen in your entire history. and then there's the iran nuclear deal agreed in 2015. it was heralded as a step towards reducing proliferation until the u. s. withdrew. now iran says it has enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon. you don't want each under heat on modern little bit, while few nations have gone as far as north korea and trying to build them. and i nuclear campaign or say other countries are expressing a new willingness to host them as a deterrent. that's what frightens valerie. a has a nuclear expert from ukraine attending the conference. so there is a widespread belief that nuclear weapons have prevented at big war.

and it turned out not to be true signatories to the n p t. r. meant to gather every 5 years in an attempt to advance the goal of disarmament this year. thanks to global tensions. experts say there's little hope of action. kristin salumi al jazeera, the united nations. ah, and let's take a look at those headlines now. they're not, his states is killed, the leader of, i'll hide and a drawn strike in the afghan capital cobble president joe biden said. intelligence officials tracks aimen, a zola, heavy to a home in the center of the city. i'll zero's alley, let's see if he has more from cobble. really important to keep in mind is if you look behind us, we're in a central part of the city. you know, where near bank we're near grocery store and your money exchanges. all sorts of basic civilian things. and this house that he was allegedly saying and reportedly

belong to someone tied to the government, if not a government official himself a guest house belonging to the government. so this may be part of why anthony blinking is saying that you know, that this violated the doha agreement because it's very high. how difficult or hide, you know, the most senior, all the leader in the middle of your capital, without someone from your government knowing major in taiwan are reporting us how speak and nancy pelosi will arrive. later on tuesday, china is warning the u. s. of serious consequences. if that happens, the chinese foreign ministry set on tuesday. it's been in communication with us with the us and hopes americans can be clear about the gravity of such a trip. washington is urging beijing to act responsibly. us basketball star, brittany griner as appeared in a russian court for a 7th hearing. she was detained in february for carrying freight canisters with cannabis oil through moscow airport. through time elim pick basketball gold med

list is trading guilty to the charges she could face up to 10 years in prison. first ship transporting ukrainian grain under an international bro could deal is heading for turkish rules is after leaving the pulled of a dresser. on monday, the vessel is being monitored by the joint coordination center in the stumble, it's expected to dock fare for inspection on wednesday for heading to lebanon. the un chief says the resumption of shipments will help bring stability to global food markets. the headlines, the news continues off the inside story. stay with us. let's get to the bottom line . what does a new forever proxy war mean for america and nato? it's very hard to say where the escalations stopped. is it a mistake to open up? is that a pandora's box? if you want to be ready for the next pandemic, you figure out this part of the bottom line, your weekly taken us politics and society rushes ambitious naval strategy

betterment prevents as the u. s. is the biggest threat, has global maritime goals, is promised to equip warships with unprecedented weapons. so what does this new naval strategy mean, and how will it be viewed in washington? this is inside story. ah hi there. welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle, president vladimir persian has announced his planned expansion of russia's naval power. singling out the us as the biggest obstacle putin signed a new naval doctrine on sunday, accusing washington of trying to dominate the world's oceans. the $55.00 page document states that nato's movements threaten moscow's borders and details a plan to strengthen it. rushes geopolitical position in a speech to mark navy day cushion did not directly mention the war in ukraine.

instead, he thanked military personnel and pledge to defend russian interests in the black and as of seas. i was not sure to get, i need to use the one we have openly outlined the boundaries and zones of rushes, national interests, both economic and strategic. first of all, these are our arctic waters, and some of the waters of the black are caught and bearing sees as well as the baltic and curl straits. both we will insure their protection firmly and by all means for all of us, the motherland is a sacred concept and its defense is one of the highest duties and the meaning of life for each and every one of us must be very oh, let's bring it our guests in moscow as sergey markov director of the institute of political studies. he's also a former spokesman for president blame at person in vienna is wolfgang put ty, a security defense analyst, and former austrian defense attache. and new york is lawrence brennan, a retired

u. s. navy captain and adjunct professor of law at fordham university. very well. welcome to you all. i thank you for joining us. i'd like to begin with you, mr. markov. if i may thing, as you were, a former spokesman said president putin and may have some insights into the thinking in his, in his circle. i just want to get your take on this new naval doctrine, what it means. and i guess more importantly what it signifies. crystal ball, i think it will be up, you touch it or no national government has to be changed because now and you would have been where we're going to say, well, malik, and i'm sure you're not perfect or wrong. democratic get elected ukraine imposed on democratic regime to people and support

aggressiveness, people in dumb way price and we gave, you know, we go in also we can see the war history and lit by united states of america and to each member including conjures jones. so russia needs in this new reality to change as a bunch of documents liable to do is since it's why it's kind of yesterday describes that. united states is that god made us so rare drops and security internet and you're not to attempt to block the roster. he is bigger than us. i live, you know, it was a ocean and see it's not quite a few. okay,

i want to pause you there and just pick up on something you said disconnected describing this is a new reality and positive to wolfgang puts di, obviously, in terms of the reasoning for the war in ukraine. the position of ukraine in the west is, is somewhat different, but i just wanna get your take on this new naval doctrine is this does a signify a new reality? well, i would say it's a new naval doctrine is also somehow a reaction to later enlargement. nathan lodge went into an off regard to live in sweden this week, and that she used to egypt position of russia in the north, significantly, especially in the case of major war between russia and natal, natal would have to come up to present the naval base to soften northern speed, the more monce candidate at the corner were going to be forgot to do development from the previous 2015 doctrine. i would say it's no surprise, it's more or less

a logical development. ok, mr. lawrence brand and you're, you're a navy man. what's your sort of reaction to this naval doctrine, and what do you make of the timing of the slee rusher is at war with ukraine. but is there any importance around the timing of this? there could be terrible importance about the timing of this, this undue centuries. of traditional maritime law law, the high seas, and undue is more than half a century. a very good naval relations between the former soviet navy and the right now the russian navy and the u. s. navy, in the dark days of the early 1900 seventies soviet navy, the u. s. navy came to an agreement called the incident see agreement in the agreement to prevent the risk of unintentional for possibly accidental harm between their ships. it was during the time of great hostilities in the eastern mediterranean, among the arab nations and israel. and we've had good relations,

annual meetings and resolution at, at lower levels of possible conflicts. we, we have agreements that supplement the law to see. we have agreements at supper supplement, the rule, the road rules of the road, and we have fairly good relationships. when i was on the aircraft carrier limits that launched the raid to ran to try to rescue the american hostages. we always had a russian or then a soviet surface ship shadow up. we had some interesting communications at that time and got in trouble with president carter for sending hockey scores during the 1980 olympics. but they were professionally done. there were no real risks of collision, no real risks of weapons being fired accidentally or intentionally. this is a question then for a survey ma calls over in moscow. there's been a lot of discussion about this being a reaction to the expansion of nato. is that the reason for this naval doctrine

house threatens, does russia feel right now about nato? not so much concerned about nato, especially about to see them. so anyway, we knows that because those teachers, good union members and good luck and you get up and say, what do you got to see them already being part those that mates or, and you said it was good. defensive still took part in all meeting so many told me to and also also it was a connection between nato and so much. also a was the reason why we were going to so much, again,

members show you being made or is because you were, was there for mission of your credit by russia and to creating buys, clear threat russia and to vote, to make that russia and say you listen to it and it's what read up. it's like for sure because it sort of did of sense. but i sent you good. talking to the no no more rush i need to think and this is reflected in the maple ridge in rush. i want to see about security is also north my direct attic way so cool. got it. that's going to me and for the security. sure. also.

and we want to defense this out of the way from any any problems that we can share doesn't apply. such weight to be useful. robson will be prioritized for today. ok. wolfgang post. i can see you want to jump in there before i get your response. i also wanted to ask you, the main for it to russia, according to the doctrine, is the strategic policy of the usa to dominate the world's oceans. is that true? is there a shift from the u. s. wanting to dominate the world waters? well, trust me regards to maple axis of sweden and finland, the reason big difference for russia because for the time being both a partnership for peace. and now, after the real full members may put that research, mutual defense clause, which makes the difference, there is an integration of both countries,

income nato command structure. and then you made the doctrine of russia compas also received free rent by these 2 additional maple countries. by account of rep in the arctic, and be prepared to your question for the united states, the freedom of shipping, the freedom of global shipping lines is by for strategic interest, survival, strategic interests. in order to ensure this, the u. s. navy needs for em and paying the present all over the rogue lease with regard to the low achieving rules in russia. new doctrine is a clear mismatch and mismatch of what ici got, check the center of a little means. the russia maybe has about $210.00 westerns out of these $210.00, west and about $55.00, a fully functional blue water ocean going vessels and submarines about half of them can be considered modern ships. this means it's unlikely that the russians will be able to present american c control. the following some help is so called french

shit and they call it a naval concept of the 19th century. which means that aimed is not so much to dominate this. he but to challenge the u. s. c. control. all right, i'd like to come back to you so to get him out of cause, do you agree with that assessment of russia's sort of strategy in terms of its naval power and sort of, how do you think all of this is likely to be viewed by the other side is likely to be viewed by the us away a nose does that. i did it. going to be difference about what i'm going to consider you can want to, i made it comes towards your head, what americans doing general. and we know about russia know sure. the crunch in about a tech rock exactly, because it gives us 2 weeks. he won't be not week because

of them tech. so it's one of the, for the course of our attempt, we have the standard devised tool, important to me to say 6, why is global nuclear potential speech is now used by physical a bi, somebody's or some kind of teaching nuclear vehicle. a war walk more or less additions as well. but as the patient and a warrior that you couldn't reach were not just you create, but the games are all americans use. you can splits and as usual, that's russian. it's renee or conventional was it to be no souls

jerome? no. so, so i'm good enough. that's why a russia even put on the mouse to build your needs. a naval seeps was a conventional issue. we expect that to all groups will have to take part in the ok was going to die. come back to you, depending on which, unless you talk to at the thought of the war, it was discussed that russia had failed in its initial age. but it wanted to go and take over ukraine or take over large parts of ukraine and it be done. and that instead it's turned into a war of attrition. and that in fact, it wanted to, to take over to take control of the black sea. was that ever and i was with russia ever has been able to do that. and if this is now a war of attrition,

how well is russia place to to continue that i would say at the beginning the russians, fet, achieve was based on the value of wrong assumptions that you'd not believe that the ukranian armed forces would put up if the persistence action get assumption was that the vast majority of the russian is living in ukraine, which joined the russian army in bonds. they did not believe that the west, including the united states would be both serious sanctions on russia and the favor . look on the military concept, the squeak attacks, the so called operation minority groups trying to reach our typical example for these wrong assumptions. they believed that they could get the key and they've all would be older. they will to prefer to install russia friendly government in keys. he says, obviously faith and they have now changed approach the strategy. this means it's about, as i've said it both iteration and upon bus. people succeed in occupied the whole

of the dawn bus. and if possible, this means if they're able to help eliminate the majority of ukraine and forces they would aim. busy also to attack or tessa and advance to, to occupy the whole black seacoast. if this is possible, we could see in the next weeks or months if that ukraine is able to upload the receipts that this is certainly depends also on the amount of weapons deliveries from the west. lawrence, brandon, we've talked a lot about the strategy and the naval strategy, but i want to get a little bit specific about some of the announcements around this naval doctrine. so they're going to be hyper on a missiles on some ships. can you just explain to us and to our audience at home, what they are, what sort of challenges they present for potential combatants? short, egan, simplistic terms dessert kind of missiles which are on sauce. russian naval combatants have a range of approximately a 1000 kilometers and have

a speed of about $500.00 nautical, which is also about 500 nautical miles. they have the speed of 9 times the speed of sound, which is nearly 7000 miles per hour. wow. their pass age to destroy safely in flight. now that doesn't mean they're accurate. that doesn't mean that they will lock on, but it means that those who are defending against those targets have to go back to the early white errors, particularly towards the end to world war 2. and the japanese can cause the effects manned suicide claims. and the aircraft in here, desert on missile have to be destroyed before the to watch. that means that the target is the ship carrying them right now. the publicity is that the ships that carry the horse relatively small. so we rush enabled, cor bats for destroyer type ships. their ability to defend barry in integration.

large groups are not, no, that's one thing that will have to be planned. i am sure that the us naval war college, the technical people in the navy are looking studying at this and coming up with counter proposals, how to respond to it before it happens. we also have to work in a world where we hope that no one begins unprepared, unannounced 1st, right? that's not the policy of the united states government. and hopefully is not the policy of russian government or any other civilized government in the world. just before we move on from you, mr. brennan, the much anticipated grain deal has finally gotten underway today, allowing ships from ukrainian ports to go through down the black sea and into the boss for us in install to get much needed grain to avoid a basically a worldwide food crisis. i mean, how tenuous is that, how dangerous is that? is there the potential for this to go wrong?

well, there's always potential for hazards of the sea. and most of those are relatively benign thing. that's why the insurers of lloyd's and tokyo and in europe ensure maritime risk. that happens if there are certain excluded risks, war risks that are under special insurance in london, particularly not exclusively. and those are things we're looking at. but this grain from what i read earlier today is bound for 11 on where there's desperate need. if the russians of agreed to allow range leave. and the turkish government, which controls the boss for us, and the exit and entrance into the black sea, turkey, and member of nato. if turkey permits that and supports it, and there's no opposition to know how still 80 things will work. ok. there still. and there are still uncertainty as to what really is going to happen. and if there is a blockade of ukraine, grain and economic warfare, and that for as, as he said,

it does seem to be consensus among around among all parties about the importance of this working. so give me a call. i thought come back to something you said talking about the, the arctic ocean. the importance of the arctic ocean is actually set out in this doctrine. why is it so important for russia, the arctic ocean? what's happening there? arctic ocean and becoming more and more important for russia because your social because of global warming, now we see more opportunities for trade. so arctic ocean bullying, shaw costs and it's, well, it's going to be a good, a good way to reach can replace. and now ways including channel and it's

almost twice less by kilometers in general, it could be did it for us, for the boat or the man or the global one. me as well. so this one second is the, the really big this or changing gets an oil room. she even the article for technology can, it's not so easy because her eyes is up. but now the new technology probably will go to do and especially is just and he got articles and says, tremendous supply. so i guess an or if you may go now developing

a global economy, it's more and more energy wise source or will be able to take get some oil. caution will be great. okay. all right. okay. well, thank the style of course video. you want to say something or comment on on that yet, i just would like to add that the arctic is also significant because it's the federal and lounge area for rush and ballistic missiles. submarines. brian, well the more we control what is most often to ask you. c we've been talking there about, you know, having ports that are warm, water reports that can be accessed. how has russia tried to secure allies or pot news in the region to get poor access? i mean, syria has been a key ally through through the war and syria. what about egypt or thought personal greece or libya? whether one must not forget?

the position of russia in africa is not that bad as it is frequently perceived in the west. there are many african countries to be warm in close relationship to moscow, and especially from resident to resident. so this must be all this keep kept in mind. and i would say there are several options for the russians to find. the naval base is in africa, especially on the african east coast. so we've got to libya for the time being, although there are russian mercenaries currently present in libya, i think it is highly unlikely, highly unlikely that there could be any living room that would allow the russians to establish a naval base in, let's say topic. why? because the relationship with the west, europe is much more important for libya than the relationship with moscow. sure. lauren's brand and we've got about a minute left. i can see if you wanted to add something there. please take the full sure. for more than a 100 years, russian and friendly naval forces and work together in the far north at the end of

world war 11971918 british us naval forces were at mass and arc angel. and towards the end of the war in later years, us and other naval forces were in what was stock for many reasons. through through world war 2, a lot of goods were transported from the united states to russia via the latter law stuck. and in 19181990 of the western allies were concerned that japan would try to seize what was stuck in the war more works in northern russia. so this is a long term problem with some good historical precedent. well, we're discussing at a conference. all right, well, have to leave it there. as you say, we could have an entire conference just on that for time. no, thank you very much job. i guess my calls will can post die. and lawrence brennan, thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our

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