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a political groups are threatening to deepen divisions in the country. so what will it take for iraq's government to work? that's a discussion today. you're very welcome to be part of it on you t ah. time to meet your panel. welcome, ron edge amar la heaved. so good to have all 3 of you on the street. ryan, welcome back to the supreme creature, my audience. he, you are what you do. i work with her organization because founded by jamal, i should keep the democracy for gotta hold now or don, get to have you. i'm a nice to have you on the street. please introduce yourself to our audience around the world. when you're actually in the list, i work with the base get to happy unlocking. welcome to the stream, please introduce yourself to having us. thank you for having me. i am the senior
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iraq analyst, the international crisis group. thanks all of you that's. i'm going to get you to talk to each other audience, you can also talk to, i guess as well. i am surrounded right now. i'm a bi scenes of iraq's parliament building. it does not look like business. as usual. i see a sitting. i see people can you explain as we show these pictures? what happened and what it normally would look like, came parliament and is this an extraordinary occurrence? can you start? can you help us? well, yes, for the 1st time. it also is similar images where you can see a van there's a inside where they supposed to be located all the drug laws and. busy also, all the place where the,
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where the issue of liking for their normally and the behind the scenes for the 1st time came over that people can visit and share rate with the control it for period of time. i say there was a time that expected for how long you're going to be. why you, when you look at those scenes of the men chanting and dancing and flags waving, what comes to mind? well, i'm just giving you guys so i think it's interesting to see that iraqis are actually celebrating, taking over the parliament building and from what you can see in those pictures. they're not violent but they're happy about this to be sitting in the seat of the
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political leech decide. so many decisions for them, but they don't feel. busy apart and the main side of that was the turn out october 2021 election and it's actually spark this crisis where only about 40 percent. formerly, probably even less of the iraqis actually showed up to the whole. right. can you explain from your perspective why you think the protest and the sitting is now sprayed into the parliament building? what was the catalyst for that? honestly, this extraordinary to see these pictures, but it's not surprising, and it's not the 1st time that we have seen a similar manifestation of how the majority of iraqis rejects the current political regime in iraq. that is, that has been based strong push back against the foundations of the covenant that argued government that was installed by the us in 2003. it's pushed back by
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some needs and secular and code and christians from iraq who opposed the idea of running the country based on security and division and who opposed for an intervention with the forum. dimensions came from the us or from iran or from so they b o or whatever. so we have seen, you know, that manifestations of, of this like national, the rocky movement and movement on the youth. and this is the most recent station. i think the supporters of the, for the, for the are a sample of how the majority of iraqis feel about the cut on. but it, because situation iraq, that it's the sentiment to the corruption to the dysfunctionality of the system. and there are calls for a complete, you know,
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the whole of the, of the system, not just fight over who's the next prime minister. it's, it's the biggest question, the question of governance, question of the presentation. and the question or how to fix many of the root causes that had led the country on medicine, right? i'm just saying, you know, even the fight over who's next time. it's about how about who's the next president . i have to have a president in order to have a prime minister. all right, so the whole system has broken down. has it not? it has. i mean honestly, if you ask me, i think the system has been broken for over 2 decades. it hasn't to work from the beginning, but yes, the, the fact that we have to have a president who could this a prime minister was, and hendricks parliament to sidney. and who have from these, you know, like the ancient behind closed doors. have dr. present that the will of the people they have enough to present the interest of their people and they have been
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beholden to foreign power, like on the us over 40 years. so this is a presentation of a lot of them. so yes, i have a lot here because yes, go ahead. so i agree with what i was saying, of course, but i think that the reason why why this credit is happening now, why it seems to depart from previous ones. and especially from the machine process is actually that these demonstrations are very much and we haven't for sure, there are people in the streets that are able to voice their frustration as well. but the reason why they're occupying parliament right now is because so those has encouraged stuff. and i think that at the moment the tensions there are playing out are type of show a force on part of. ready political leach that are no longer able to come to
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a consensus like they have done every election since 2005. and so that was the one we could say that in a way instigated and i'm really that you can i just pause for a moment cuz i want our audience to be always up to speed as you will or the outside or so we put together some some points, but can you add to them as we share them with our audience about him? so they know a little bit more about where we come from. why he's so important in this conversation. so we thought with him being a populous she or leader, what more do you want to add to that? sure. so i mean, the reason why within the what we in iraq sometimes called the sheer house, why solder kind of stands apart from many of the other, she leaders is really his, his background. so 1st of all, he is the son of a very then influential cleric. he is one himself. and although he
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might not have the credentials for being a grand total of for instance, he has great political ambitions as we have seen. and the other main difference is also that, apart from the others, many of whom, during the saddam regime, spent years in exile, whether were in iran or the, or the west fathers family were largely remaining in iraq. and so he also draw his populist credentials from from this context. ok. he's also i would say the, the one shit leader that probably has the most loyal base. and the reason for that is because many of his voters, for his constituents come from a very poor, kind of socio economic background. all right, let me just bring back a mom a mom you've been reporting from the parliament building. and i want to go by your twitter feed because the pictures you've been taking a fascinating. so he, on twin,
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i've got federal establish service pants to provide food and drink for a sit in front of parliament building. it seems that it's going to be going on or taking days, and these pictures are fascinating. this is not an accidental sitting. there's a plan here tell us more about the protesters and who is citing with outsider and also counter protests at the same time. one other, i think he is the only the only man in the country i want to ride his follower, the floors were like a supporter. and if you ask them to throw themselves and the reason they would do this is how i was a mall. his supporters and all the i would say he's the only one has the
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quarter and you know, the, the process started around 9 30 in the morning we, i was we'll then i'll be break the may, you will. ready 101030, and until 5. and it's really a hotel and that date was almost degree. and i promise you inside the green zone, there was no, was the bucket of water. i don't know how people there by was just little was there or you know, like it was cry. that's the only access or who would only actually was there. sorry. and it was eating that day to basically each other is the organization. the one of the most powerful novels do you have so many
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years and has this a profession joining us, for example, it has 100 probably thousands of rosa procession. that's food and drink for the days of it is super super organized and i want to go back to the point that we started with is that a rock government be unbroken? it's not able to be forward. it's not able galvan. what does that mean? right? i'd love you to have a listen to mos in. they spoke to us a little bit early about the impact of that being no government for at least 10 months. and many would argue that even longer. his mouth saying at the end of her video, which you respond, there has been to that a government for 10 months and that has had a huge impact on the everyday life. citizens on the lease in which it has impacted citizens, is that the government hasn't been able to provide better services to work on
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issues of unemployment and already that continue to accumulate and make life difficult for iraqis. in addition to that, there's issues of foreign policy because they're up doesn't have a government, they are unable to put on a unified response to incursions on sovereignty. as we saw happen to the bombings in northern iraq key to all of these points. all of the points are valid. the counter point is that iraq also has this function, the government that is unable to put the unified voice again for the pension or domestic challenges. even at the time that the rock has a prime minister and the president. and we saw that the 2 decades at the can chance been one of the most corrupt the entire world according to the transparency transpose, the national index or conduction. iraq has produced more than $2000000.00 of oil in
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the last decade. 2 trillion dollars. but more money than you know, most of the holt combine producing any sort of resources there, but there are suffering with no basic services. no electricity, no water, no education, healthcare. so i mean, i think to this, i think the, the get in government is valid. but the govern government is not coming up. no worse, it's coming out and i keep getting the point where they are asking for change. they understand if that is a new prime minister with a stay at the school, the situation will continue to be the same as it was. and then after that we just bring in the voice of shake. eileen was he is. he's famous as a protest that he's been protesting for many years. he's now 18 years old and he explains why he continues to go out and protest. i'll let him explain that. that's one point for why the government in iraq is broken his,
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his perspective. oh it does it, how people have been destroyed since 2003 and until this day, nothing has changed. politicians have not made any reforms. human beings should use their brains. i say to our brothers in the parliament and the leaders, please use your brains. the people suffer from unemployment and a lack of health services. nothing has changed since 2003, nothing. i have participated in every protest. i wrote you ma'am? you can hear his frustration right there. i want to bring in another area of concern for why iraq is not working. and that is in fighting between cheer politicians. but he can you explain to us why that is such an important factor right now in government not being able to be full properly? well, the main reason for that is that this time when we have elections in october 2021,
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it was based on a new election law that some parties did not read very well in terms of what the outcome of that system would be. so the one who benefit from that was the southern party that came off highest was 74 seats. and then was also a sunni alliance. and the biggest kurdish party, the k d p. and the rival sheer fractions among which the former prime minister, nordic monarchy, won some over 30 seats, but was, was way off from, from the number of sheets that he is able to, to garner in the past. and the reason for this is that the sheer house has expanded inside parliament over the last few years. and especially due to the war on i'm says that so several parties, late paramilitary groups come in to, to the political scene. and so now you know, the amount of actors,
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they're trying to share the cake of state revenue because this is really what it is about. what marcia was talking about was, i was mentioning the reason why the oil money does not benefit the people is because all political actors in a while use government and parliament as a way of expanding their own patronage networks. usually they've been dividing government or cabinet sheets among them in order to get access to ministries from which they can extract revenues. well, you know, siphoning off a big deal of it was giving only very little to the people. and then on top of that, not investing in infrastructure that iraq bad leanings such as electricity such as health care, et cetera, et cetera. but i mean, what i very enlightening and in a way of listening to this man is that there's also in this crisis, which is
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a political one along a lease more than anything else. and one specifically i would say between for them and his, his main rival new key is that they're also taking advantage of people's frustration . ok, this is a way for people to voice their grievances from inside the part of the building. but the reality is that this time around the demonstrations are not instigated organically from the bottom which we saw in 2019, for instance. this is a way for, for the to say that this is a people's religion which it is not really. this is a way for him to escalate the situation. these are the, his, his rivals after he would do his parliamentarians without actually violence, at least so far. and so what was the way to manage the other end of this?
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it was just that advance of his rival, this is exactly what it was. i can tell you. it was personal hatred between him and molly and this reflected all the on the street. the also can call it a game of this. i'm sorry to say that, but it's absolutely exactly what happened i think. yeah, i mean, i think the main reason. alright, i love it when to rains. well together, let me be the homeless ation truck up here. like heave, go head, and then i'm all come back to you. like go ahead start. i guess i, i just wanted to get some more context i'm. i was absolutely right, but this is what is playing out now is really the tension between them and monkey. but really the twitter of it is what happened in, in the few days and the few weeks prior to him calling for,
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for the 1st limitation on wednesday. and that was 1st an audio week from us. suppose that conversation between money can someone where he is literally accusing further of plotting state takeover. and then the 2nd thing, the so called framework parties. so the other parties that are on the other side of whether that but for the so called check coordination framework, they decide what he thought it was hard. this is hard to follow in a very short conversation. what's the main point you want to make an a sentence before i move on? go ahead. the main point is that they nominated prime ministerial candidates mohammed shot through dani that is rejected by others. and would they not have done that? we might not have seen this escalation big thought that they could count out further from the political process. got it. i am going to go back to via his twitter
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account, which is while this is a historic picture, got a chance to sit on the main table of parliament speaker. i sat silently in the middle of huge chaos in that kyle, in this perhaps people's revolution. are you hearing suggestions, ideas for government reform? well, i have plenty moments anyway, but i have so many commands or even on my facebook date. unfortunately, no one is telling me to go ahead, i mean, many said yes, but that most people that this is the corrupt position, least we want to do. they want you to rump office, could you be the solution to iraq's issues? i will definitely make sure that it's impossible. important
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be i would say. 1 the majority of the people who actually educated enough, who has, who has the sense of responsibility for their own people. i'm not really, this is one of the good people. they just they far from like, election conveys there because they feel it's dominated by rusted. and i, i hear that that's not, that's not uncommon with politics globally, particularly for iraq. i, i, on stand for this particular moment where can't get a prime minister right now. i have what is it all here, right? and then i hope you will help us just wrap up the show with this. what is the best case scenario for iraq right now? is a question that comes from youtube watching this discussion, right?
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thought the answer will take 2 hours. but in a nutshell, i would say the how about 2 minutes i'm giving you 2 minutes, right? can you do it? i can let my dog i'm talking to the dc. so i would say like in 2 minutes, that would have been asking for, for the last 2, the case is very clear. it's not confusing. it's not the utopian. it occupies the needs and she and christians and couldn't have been asking for clear demand and corruption and security in the country that are very clear road maps out there that were abolished over and over again by you know, multiple iraq to support society and political leaders and listening to other people, one is the best case scenario, ending the stadium divisions, and quarter system is the best case scenario. getting rid of the call dropped, but additions will get paid tens of thousands of dollars a month without living in the country. is the best case scenario scenario. it's
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very curious and the roadmap to move around in the, in the right direction is key. and i think the post to be who are supported by your, on the u. s. and sometimes so that in this role and new but countries and they have to go, they have to let go of controlling the country for their own personal interests. and, you know, move away and cooper, site and iraqis, the country, the way that will actually present the will of mitchell k. right. and i'm lucky, thank you so much right now. and the current new cycle for outreach 0. we are covering the city and empowerment in iraq's parliament building, and now you've had some added information. how to understand that situation much better. let me give you one more place to visit, and that is the twitter accounts of our 3 guests, right? i'mma, a law heath. thank you for your conversations and your questions on you chip. i
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