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urea is sparsely populated, but there's a major import nearby. it handles almost all of iceland air traffic. ah, until mccray, with the headlines on al jazeera, iraq's influential sheer later mac tada l. sata is demanding an early election, and has a dialogue with the government, has proven to be futile. in a televised address, he urged his supporters to continue with their sitting at the parliament building until their demands are met. such as block won the most seats and last year's parliamentary election. but there's been a political deadlock ever since. i got up a shot. a macbook on hockey, mom, most of the people are tired of the ruling class, the whole of it, including some of those who belong to our block. therefore, take advantage of my presence to an corruption, god willing, there will be no place for the old guard regardless of their affiliations. this
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will happen 1st through a peaceful, revolutionary democratic process. second, an early democratic election should take place. after dissolving the current parliament. us president joe biden has signed a new executive order aimed at making it easier for women to travel between states to get an abortion. in june, the supreme court overturned a landmark rolling the guarantied a woman's right to the procedure. china has begun military exercises around ty, want just hours after us house speaker, nancy pelosi ended her controversial visit to the island. beijing had warned the us of serious consequences if the trip when to hit will talk to revive the 2015 iran nuclear deal, a due to resume in vienna on thursday after months of style. nice though the us is, it's expectations are and check to run and washington have been holding indirect negotiations to try to revive the deal broke down in 2018 when the us under
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president donald trump pulled out the 1st grain cargo ship to leave ukraine. since the russian invasion has sailed through turkeys both for a straight on its way to lebanon earlier, a team of inspectors boarded the ship tickets, cargo and documents. the ship is being monitored by a joint coordination center and is stand bowl. it was set up under a deal signed last month by russia and ukraine. the ship left the ukrainian port of our descent on monday. those are the headlines. the news continues on al jazeera, after inside story. ah. standing with taiwan in defiance of china. you as how speak at nancy pelosi has
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ended her controversial visit to the self ruled island. it's triggered an angry response from beijing and how willed tie, pay, and washington deal with the full mouth. this is inside story. ah. po, welcome to the program on can vanelle nancy pelosi has become the most senior us politician to visit taiwan in 25 years. the u. s. how speak is spent less than a day on the cellphone island. but china, which claims taiwan as part of its territory called the trip a direct challenge to its sovereignty. aging had issued threats and warnings before pelosi even touched down. but america's 3rd most powerful politician was undeterred, saying, washington was committed to preserving taiwan democracy. china is responding with
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live 5 military drills and an import ban on time when he's products will bring an i guess in a moment. first, this report from homages. june for us house speaker, nancy pelosi, a high profile trip to taiwan. fraught with both complications and contradictions. america's 3rd most powerful politician, repeating washington's commitment to protect democracy on the self governed island, while also respecting beijing so called one china policy to day, the world se, se is a choice between democracy and autocracy. americans, determination, you preserve democracy here in taiwan and around the world. we may, iron clad, taiwanese president sy, in when, who gave pelosi, one of the highest civilian honors, promised to defend the island from beijing's threats into hellen aggression against democratic taiwan would have a tremendous impact on the security of the entire in the pacific. he man,
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facing deliberately heightened to military threats. ta one will not back down. we will firmly up hold our nation sovereignty and continue to hold the line of defense for democracy. china, which considers taiwan a part of its territory, has said it once a peaceful reunification and views, policies visit as a direct provocation repair under tie one sighing wayne and her ilk a clinging to us and turning their backs on national justice. these behaviors that go against the trend of times co will not change the international consensus of one china and will not change the historic trend that tie one will inevitably return to the motherland. those who play with fire will not come to a good end. and those who offend china will be punished. even during policies visit china's reaction was fast and furious. suspending imports and exports of several goods to and from taiwan,
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conducting joint air and sea live ammunition drills near taiwan. and summoning the u. s. ambassador in beijing, policy's trip has come to an end, but with chinese american relations at such a low point, it's not clear yet what the long term repercussions of this visit will be mohammed from jerome for inside story. well, let's look more closely at the u. s. relationship with taiwan, washington does not have formal diplomatic ties with the island, but maintains what it calls a policy of strategic ambiguity recognizes the chinese government in beijing, but not china's territorial claim to taiwan. the u. s. does supply weapons to taipei and it's 1979 taiwan relations act. the island is a major economic and technology partner to the u. s. it supplies it more than half of the world. semiconductors, china seas, taiwan as a breakaway province. that will eventually be united and hasn't rolled out using force. ah,
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let's bring it, i'll guess in taipei, vincent chow form a director of the political did division at the time. pay economic and cultural representative office in the u. s. and a former chief of staff to both the taiwan national security council and foreign minister in miami june teufel dryer professor political science at the university of miami and editor of the book taiwan in the area of science when changes and challenges. and in beijing, henry wheel, yeah. when founder and president of the center for china and globalization and director of the chinese people's institute of foreign affairs, a variable and welcome to you. all i'd like to start with you in re we are wang in beijing with your thoughts on nancy pelosi visit and the reaction that we've seen so far to that visit. well, i think this is a really a bad move actually on the, on the
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a close it because she, i came to, you know, a relation to the child. you already have the lows on also the war is the face them and then and face in the you can rushing prices, energy prices and the other questions as well. so we just have the present, president biden called last week, and we also had to fire a high level of dialogue between the senior officials between china, u. s. in the last who was so we, we don't want to see this happen to me for nancy pelosi personal games because she, she has been branded, has been really make her name her know that and to china. and also really not, not in good relations with china. you as your agent so sure she's, she's really, i think we need to go on to research and for the domestic colleges. i think that
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she's really a, went to taiwan, baby, so i'm present. so i think that the band, the not only the us, china really, but also bring the series a crisis to the cross street of taiwan. and so this is going to be really breaking a lot of the status quo. and i think there's going to be a lot of consequences in the future that, that really good. we're seeing that the duration of the so the missions ok, i just want to pause you there and cross over to type pe, vincent child. what do you make of nancy pelosi reception in taiwan? what is her visit mean for taiwan or just to start henry's point about trying to increase really trying to say she's been pro democracy basically her whole life. if anything, i think she's pro china democracy and she was in german. she showed support for democracy, both in china and taiwan in the past. and i think what it comes down to is this is
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a great track record when it comes to putting human rights at the office around the world. and her coming here to taiwan said, nature. and when we look at it, there is no breaking the status quo. new gingrich speaker that comes in 1997, the chinese the not as bad fighter dads that at all that down by far exercises. ready on engage and pick comic sanctions and so it becomes a bit doesn't genuine to say that hey, i mean time has not changed trying to hutchins. this is clearly what the president, this is the done before. the reaction design is far above and beyond what we saw last time around. and so clearly something within the ccb has changed. and it's difficult to imagine a scenario where countries around the region and the u. s. are not gonna respond to them. june teufel dray, is there anything that you would add to that? yes, i believe the speaker from beijing. ers. when he said that this is upsetting status
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quo, china has been upsetting the status quo and the child straight for quite some time . now with a lot of docket is actions and talks about time cables for unification or state persistence, corn reification. even though taiwan has never been part of the bus republic of china, and i was a paul at the, at the effort to write history here. quatro new who has a spokeswoman for the chinese foreign ministry saying that taiwan has always been a province of china. this is simply not true, it was declared a province in chief dynasty for less than 10 years, less than 10 years. one job japan took it over and made it a colony of japan. lying about the couch is not going to help shoot the situation. so i think pelosi is that it was designed as been
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was saying do as a show of support because against china is trying to change the status quo. why just before we move on, mr. i what, why does taiwan meta so much to nancy pelosi and to the us? it matters for a number of reasons. one of the reasons nancy pelosi came and gave me that she has always been a strong supporter of democracy around the world. as the united states in general, which mediately puts it against china, which is defending authoritarianism. but a 2nd reason is strategic. python is strategically extremely important because it is part of the 1st island chain of defense against aggression by the peoples abrasion, army, and it is chinese military standard just have referred to taiwan.
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the buckle in the chain keeps people's ration army bottled up behind the 1st island shades and breaking, taking over taiwan. we're getting access to a very important port caption and also an entry way. and they have specifically sh chad, an entryway to the blue pacific and guam guam is a u. s. territory. and of course, halfway toward hawaii. so that bothers americans strategic plan. of course, i'd love to go back to henri in beijing. china obviously, views this visit as a violation. what are the chances that you think china would go beyond live fire drills and actually take military action in taiwan?
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well, i think this is really, really a break in the, the pattern and the norm in the last, you know, 4 or 5 back, it actually break to the status quo. because in the, you know, 97, i know the john k established by china us the john company k stipulates, you know, of course us coming tank culture and commercial ties was taiwan. but no official types, not to work liter state it. that's the prerequisite that you know, you start the diplomatic times u. s. b u s. in china and also for $100.00 countries around the war. the china established of americans use it. this is one of the dashing diplomatic ties. this is just a visit from the house speaker. well this is the go off on that. she's the 3rd highest branch of the issue that you thought and sure, absolutely, sure. sure, that's all for sure with that. that's, that's, that's a fact. i mean, also a part of china for, for the long history. it's a, it's always
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a part of john as 1st time for me to hear that time and not problem trying to, that's not really masters. so, so i think that, you know, she really break that pattern and that's why i mean child is always a response from child to provoke this, this is well, but that's a closely and also military as, as you mentioned about around that time and we'll be really response really a response, but i have to you know, that so there's and use a trash in law there's, there's a, there's a independence, a problem for trying to see. and then, and then of course you as a plane on car, it's really escalating the situation there. so i come back to my initial question. do you think that china would actually take military action in taiwan? why think matter channels already? or, you know, we, you know, there's a lot of flights over the, the, of the street already last night and also from the, from the 3rd will 7 are going to be admitted to the wrong time. well,
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that's already broad and the last already. so so the absolute nurse responses, those are action as taken, they are that that's very obvious so, so that is also part of the record better as well. you responded to the so we're vision by and as the closing. vincent how in taipei are every day time and these people are concerned about the rationing up of tensions concerned about these live fire drills that are going to be happening. i think what's fortunate is that publications and military intimidation and corps, and they're certainly great has become part and parcel of everyday life here and a and we really seen a wrapping up of pensions from the military jets flying across our air defense. i didn't asian zone economic course of action including most recently the batting of products and so for them, so it's become really a part of routine life. and you know, that has a pitfalls on its own,
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but it's also unfortunate consequence of the relationship or the lack of when we see today. but i do have to emphasize one point. if we take this idea of china meeting the people's republic of china on has never been part of the. ready historical, there is no, there's never been a people's liberation army soldier in taiwan. never wanted never said, but i want. and so it becomes very disingenuous to say that has become, it is part of china for a very, very long time. and so that's partially what i want to respond to, but secondly, on the one relation that and communities and all that know her within any of these documents doesn't mention that those speaker to visit taiwan, the members of the legislative branch in visit one and for no member of the executive for that matter, this is just not part of what's written literature within the tree communicate, ordered home relations, or 6 assurances matter. and so we have to be very clear, right? because we don't want to stumble in the next crisis based on your state. and we
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don't want to someone do next, crisis based on word of mouth. so it has to be very clear what impact and what keeping with the status quo. and when we have a visit by speaker of the house that has taken place 25 years ago, it becomes very, very difficult for us in plenty. plenty to say that this is completely cool. not sure. ok, i want to talk about us policy toward taiwan. but we just wanna take a moment because president joe biden cause control the c back in may. when he publicly stated that the west would defend taiwan if phasing were to attack, you didn't want to get involved in the ukraine conflict militarily for obvious reasons. are you willing to get involved militarily to defend taiwan? if it comes to that? yes, you are. that's a commitment. we made a 2nd, then we may, we are not look, here's the situation. we agree with the one china policy we signed on to all the
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attendance agreements made from there. but the idea that it can be taken by force is taken by force is just not just not appropriate, dislocate the entire region, and be another action similar to what happened in, in ukraine or the white house. quickly i insisted that washington's policy had not, in fact changed at june. teufel dreyer, has the body administration been confused about his policy? it was that just a gaffe on, on the passes of president biden. i, well, it's been a gas, but in fact, what china has been doing is insisting on if definition of a one china policy, which is that there is but one china and its capital is in beijing. and taiwan is a part of that is not with united states, signed onto the shonda. i communicate said very clearly that the united states
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acknowledge, is that the chinese give it did not say it agreed with china. right? so china has been trying to shift what the united states meant in the shop. i can get a k. it has, in fact i'm trying to shift the status quo for many years. and there is always going to be pushback. the 9 states public opinion is strongly supportive of taiwan ability to determine its own future. many of your top officials, pie one, we're educated with the and in the united states. and it is, it is very important to us not to lead a democracy, which has been a good friend of the united states to come to the treatment that beijing has made it out in shin john and hong kong. ok, i'd like to cross over to you, henry,
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who you are. one is a. do you have any response to that? what you just heard there? well, i think that a communique there was saying the people cost us time on st. oh rick and my chinese, i mean there's, there's one child. i mean, also we have these 92 consensus there, there was a meeting between president and the and the former president my and you know all the time and then so definitely a little before the before the time and took over millions of the mainland chinese to taiwan and also, you know, the people in both places share the same college with average so, so i think really it's want to try know, you have a different person. ok. mm hm. you know, like i, we don't want to get stuck on the sticking points of, of history because obviously that we have, we have conflicting views here. i want to get into the analysis of this before i
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move on from you, henry here, you know, and is this, do you think just a, is this a bilateral spat between the u. s. and china, or what are the global implications of this d? thank what so has a tremendous impact on the go, you know, chinese, the stabilize of the global economy trying to contribute over a month ago. would you be gross? china actually is the larger the measure is $1.00 to $30.00 countries and china, you know, even that was that a trade war going on china to us is, is those input actually has increased the last several years so, so, you know, is a stable as no, we don't want, you know, the war now is that your experience that you can rushing, cries and, and also that we have these pan down, he's doing more going on and the war need both us and china and they have more responsibility. will see the war really going in the right direction. so we don't want to really be a really plague about these a domestic politics,
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the china become a scapegoat. and also we see that, you know, find high level talks and be tutors in presence impressed them by them. they also one china policy. you don't want to have a cold war with all the content. china. ok, let's do the do the beads not, not just words. you know, that's really the problem. child. how has been played does a pretty the car against china, which is where i'm fort vincent challenge taipei and as we said earlier, china has responded with an impact on time and east products is taiwan able to withstand the economic price that it's now being forced to pay, well, it's a, it's a, it's a for a relationship that economic and trade relationship that we have with china. and it's unfortunate back, but it's true that majority of trade does go through china and the town is a major center for how many businesses. and so that's an important part of the economy. and so it's, it's a bit disappointing when on both china and i want to members of the w t o. when we see arbitrary trade rules and course on counties products with the process. when we
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see a trade in really played as an, an economic card against this relationship and, and, and frankly, does a lot of counties businesses and it's also something we hope to see. but, you know, we do have to put it in this context. i mean i want. ringback industrial power house where high tech society and you know, obviously trade on agricultural is important and all the cultural provides love jobs i want, but it's, it's, it's one aspect of a many, much multifaceted relationship. and let me know there's this trade. the spirit with china has really highlighted the need of why kids like clothes are so important because i don't need economically better, but that is a pretty market towards society. we need to provide incentives, preferably to be treated them. so this is something that we're looking very lia, and we do hope that we can make progress on us future june twice on trial. we are coming to the end of the program, but i want to ask you sign when has posited herself as a defender of taiwan,
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our integrity, what kind of position of a in now i think that this can only enhance her popularity. now she is terminated, she's been our 2nd term as president. but i predict with some certainty that her popularity ratings, which were already pretty good. because, you know, taiwan was a beacon for the world countries in terms of dealing with coven outbreak, can so popularity ratings were already very high. they are going to be higher as a result of this. do you think there is international concern? june? that's china, us tensions over taiwan may divert attention from ukraine. internationally. that's a very interesting question because initially it was rooted about that one of the
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reason she didn't pay me was being so aggressive toward taiwan, which by the way prompted nancy pelosi has been said, is that i was losing and it was, it was dispirited by what was happening in ukraine and it thought that the united states would be so distracted by what was happening in ukraine, that it wouldn't do anything to counter act, the increasing chinese aggression against taiwan as this, it shows that, do you was mistaken or i, i think that is about all we have time for. there's always he so much we could small we could talk about, but for time we will have to leave it there. big. thank you to all of i guess vincent chow, june teufel drayer and henry cree out one. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time i visiting our website al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com,
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