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hi anthony. okay, how do you go from syrian refugees? welcome to syrian refugees, go home. in the past 11 years, turkey has house refugees from syria, and it appears that some people's attitudes towards refugees is beginning to change . let me give you an example. this is layla mohammed story. this video about see went viral in june, and i also want to warn you, it's very, very upsetting. ah, i see with
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mm. what is going on in turkey regarding syrian refugees, that is what we're talking about today. are they being used as political pawns? you can do and i conversation right here, live on the me that me your panel hello use. if a man sarah, welcome to the stream. i will get you all to introduce yourself to our viewers. he says, welcome back. good to have you. please remind me who you are, what you do things driving me back again. my name is aaron, i'm the editor at large at the church public broadcast t r t world. and this is a very pressing issue. i'm very happy that we're going to be talking about it today . just to have you umad, welcome to the stream. people have us around the world who you are,
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what you do. i'm, i'm a nurse because object. i'm a firm policy and security on this and i'm looking forward to the discussion today . likewise and hello sarah. welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to international viewers. my name, sir navy. i am a former refugee in turkey, and i am a writer and advocacy controlled and thorough when les note was kicked in the face in that video, i saw you flinch, who takes a little old lady in the face when a folks, unfortunately, a lot of the rhetoric right now in turkey is, can be symbolized in this kick, in the face of an older woman. you said, let me bring you in here because you live in turkey, say you also are seeing how turkey hosted refugees and house refugees, particularly from syria. and it was until quite recently an incredible success
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story integration work youngsters were speaking turkish as well as of speaking our big and it was working beautifully. what happened it was a very big success story and i think on the state level it's that was the success story. but when you had an injection of about 4000000 people, which translates to about 5 to 6 percent of the population of the country within a short time spend like a decade. this creates stress on the social fabric of a country after the initial welcome war out the 1st 4 or 5 years. and we saw you can slow down, we saw refugees staying longer. it turns in from a temporary status to a more permanent status at the general understanding started to change, the general outlook towards refugees started the change and elections are nearing.
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now we are definitely seeing opposition to church president reggie type are due on using refugees trying to create a phobic feeling throughout the population and it's catching on. it's catching on when normally something goes wrong in this society. the 1st people to get blamed are those who have the most silent voices. those who have the least money. those who are the minority are oppressed. yeah, i i'm a, go go ahead. go ahead. yes. about lay now mohammed. i think this is and really important incident which shows a very regional in the same way to be and waste as a means kicking an old woman in the faith totally in human, but on the other side. they also good aspects in the story which that this was not put aside by detox, toby, t or the to public have ignored this incident. but on the contrast,
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this was used by the turkish society at then. reminder to do a motivation and polity and propaganda. altitude opposition parties, what you are doing to get us some votes and to when they look to 8 over will cause harm to people in actually we live and you have with us. secondly, the going down, tap into shit and many put the parliament members have visited mohammed or call and expressed as only they would. he and the person who have kicked her and the faith was persecuted. so these are all aspects in this whole incident. and i think. ready with the new between we have took at the moment, we can clearly says that the racism in turkey is primarily ne, economically motivated and politically motivated. so we have seen that what was in the economy as you suppress points out and with the election coming up to 2 weeks
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and propaganda again with the g have increase over time. and i'm hopeful, and i hope sincerely for the sake of turkey. it says that after the election, these are some months, again, we need 3. g 's will decrease. hopefully. how do you pull back? how do you pull back from that level of still a t, sorry. you're not in your head. go ahead. i. i don't agree with a lot of things that have been said, i don't think this issue is actually going to get better after the the election. this is something i mean, i know that there have been apologies in the media, but it's only because this actually reached the media. we also heard a lot of kids are committing suicide because of how they're treated. and school we heard of kids actually dropping out because they cannot go on either in school or find work. people cannot find work rent being increased. this is just,
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this is not just a how the government is reacting. this is more than a full b r. that's being used and also maybe the government needs to tackle it systematically. and syrians are we see like for example, only 200000 people have gotten citizenship in and out of more than 3000000 refugees energy. so and also we see the government themselves when they respond, they are also promising to return 1000000 refugees and to fear. and we all know that even the sake spaces are not safe. you go ahead, sir, i want to, i want to question you said only 200000 syrians got citizenship out of 3000000. was the expectation to get citizenship when coming to turkey was the expectation to seek asylum, to seek refuge because that's the whole thing. now you're exactly,
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but it's getting says, says citizenship a precondition to feel safe. because i think one of the reasons why we're seeing this rise and xenophobia arising target or harassment towards the syrians is the collective understanding inside turkey has changed over the last 23 years. from 0, they need us. there are yes, yes, we're going to protect them to ok. they're here now. it's more of a permanent fixture. so i think a lot of people couldn't digest this understanding. it couldn't accept that. because generally when we look at the past 11 years about the 1st 6 or 7 of them were very, very good. one or 2 years in between. we started seeing a shift in sentiment and over the last 2 years as elections are nearing is and the we seeing an economic downturn now we are seeing arise that it will be inside the country and it is undeniable. you do see it. i see it. i wish i didn't see it,
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but it was that we don't need it. so what is it? what do you see? because we gave you a really gave out here is of a vivid example of a little old lady being assaulted. what are you seeing in daily life and you're saying, ah, we are not the greatest house anymore. the syrians that the relationship is deteriorating. can you give us one example before we move on? of course, so 1st of all, i still think turkey is the greatest host for syrians because i don't think any other country would have held out of in years without this type of backlash having we've seen what happened in france, greece and other countries as well as out of your own terry writing relationship. turkeys is the host of the most amount of refugees in the world. so i do understand that, continue with what if you seen this being deteriorate? well, at 1st the 1st, the 1st of all i, i work closely with a lot of syrian, i work closely with a lot of iraq and he's who have come to the country and i hear stories from them.
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well, when we sit down talk, they'll come to me with their problems. they'll explain problems getting a house to renting out house problems just regularly, socially problems with their landlords problems just on the street night looks on the bus or when they're in mass transit or what not. so they, they definitely don't feel the welcome. they did a decade ago and as i said, there's many reasons for that. yeah. ok. let's look at some of those reasons. i'm going to get you to listen to. we have actually festival and then the havoc they kind of analyzing what has happened to really create this tech uptake in hostility towards syrian refugees. this is what i told us earlier, have a listen and then come off the back of this video. even though they are providing cheap labor is a sense of prejudice that in society, bad syrians are taken care of by the steady state that they are receiving.
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health care and, and benefits that other turks do not have or that they are responsible for unemployment and none of these are true. they are struggling. but nonetheless, i think it vivian's scape go to it. and as such, you now have turkey is political actors across the political spectrum. that is both the opposition and government building election platforms on the pledge of sending syrians back. in fact, of the blaming of averages. couldn't even serve are gone of 1st it could cover up of the root causes of turkey's economic troubles. and secondly, it could also make the support for no charge for asians in northern syria. because that is that they could as a path to send their effigies back to their homeland a man. so when comes to turkey, we have to consider everything in proportion and relation to each other. so what
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the typical position is proposing is that they will win the elections and send all of the syrians back in 2 years by making an agreement with us. that was him. so the positions promising to send all the scene if we just back to the person into the regime who actually force them to me out of the country, the 1st place and to has tortured kids menu. and it's they doing to do so. so in contrast to that, the took the sco amended for promising to enable the one to return soon if you spec to syria and save stones. and even though this is something discussed in the media and also i'm on the syrians, we have to clearly state that under low and under the to tissue. appreciate position does not refugee they are under temporary protection. so it's the obligation of the tourist government or any new government which will come to find ways to present the day to return soon if reduce back to see like to kid with the you argue if regina in the iraqi war in the early 2, thousands. so therefore,
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we have to say this and secondly, about the proportions 200000, took its citizens among the soon if reduced is not low number because over 250000 soon, if you g u p union almost collapses over the distribution. i don't do you pin, you remember states. so this is something that they have to say that the nation would have to talk to me. i need to just take a pause a moment so sarah can add to the conversation. go ahead sir. back back to the i know you both are focusing on the 200 number 1000 number that i actually mentioned in the beginning. it's actually very good that sealants are being integrated into society. but these are very small margins of scenes. and usually there are seasons who have money, who have, who managed to actually have their money back from syria and they're going to benefit the turkish society. but as a theory and myself as someone who used to be
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a refugee in turkey, and a lot of my friends right now are not even able, the turkish government is not allowing them as not facilitating legal measures to actually be legal in, in turkey. so this is our problem as well. what we're hearing in their rhetoric when it comes to like we are protecting refugees, is actually the opposite is happening in real life, like an officer. i'm not saying that maybe the president, i'm saying an officer can ruin my life if they didn't approve my chem, like i have a friend who an officer even when she was an egg, reading the country, an officer actually tore her passport from 2010 and now she doesn't have a passport, she stuck in turkey as an illegal person or so these are the, the stuff that i'm actually talking about. so let's have a look and, and listen to present other one. this was back a may of this year, a plan to voluntarily return. sylium refugee says have
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a listen to the plan. thought out of seattle inclusion, financed by international charity organizations, were planning to build 200000 new homes for syrians in 13 different locations in syria. our purpose is to make it possible for 1000000 syrians to return to the cities under good conditions. norma, the war in syria started when the regime began to talking civilians in western countries supported opposition groups in syria. so if they continued this report, syria will be a safe and stable place very quickly. use of help me out understand with understanding this plan, i'm going to show festival our viewers a map of syria and who is in control at the moment. i'm just going to close in a little bit. the areas that we're looking at are the areas in the green with dark dots. those are the areas that are controlled by turkey. so here and here, and here. so if the president wants to return syrian refugees, there's only
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a tiny amount of syria that they can actually go back to. and the rest is not good territory or safe territory for them to be. and this doesn't seem to be a sound plan to me. but i am a civilian. what do i know yourself back to 2019 to president had struck a deal with the americans and the russians to be able to expand what he called the sage on 30 kilometers apart and 30 miles interest area and push back a group known as the y p g, a group that calls terrorists, but mix up the bulk of the syrian democratic forces at the same time a u. s. allies. so this has been a flash point between us and her. i don't want to get to into a off track, but one of the important things is that she wants to be able to open up a safe, don't bring syrian refugees back into syria, build up these places he had talked with. i'm going to america. before the former,
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the german chancellor had step down about a huge, massive project building brick houses in live. there's a project that you want to expand to other areas as well. but again, there needs to be security 1st. if you don't have security, you can build, if you can't bill, you can attract refugees to come back. what do that to come back to if they're not gonna come back to ruin? so the whole idea is to be able to secure it, and it's kind of ironic actually, while we're talking right now i'm actually in. so g, russia and the turkish president is going to meet with the russian president. mind, syria will be top of the agenda when they are talking, so most likely a new turkish operation could happen to push into areas like member and tell her to be able to. and i create a little more sure. there i want to, i want to just say that when we talk about voluntary research return, we're not talking about in return. we are talking about bringing syrians who are
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trying to make a life in turkey or anywhere else that's somewhere safe and forcing them to go back . i know a lot of peer to actually, we're under the voluntary return. did not choose that. and these safe spaces are safe and are not. they don't provide a future for, for the refugees who are coming back. and we need to remember that when we're talking about where should refugees go. i feel like it's the last thing to think about, refugees. that's been happening, like we're not thinking about the autonomy or refugees, we're not giving them a choice of where they want to live and this should be a human rights issue. this should be that students who were forced to leave their country. and let's also acknowledge that turkey has political agenda and see you and they have forces in syria. so it's one of the major players a lot alongside. so guess the west that you're on, let me bring some thoughts from our audience who are watching this conversation
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right. now laken, thank you for being part of the show. it's really disturbing. syrians are being abused in turkey with cheap salaries and being humiliated in turkey as well as a lot of reaction to layla mohammad. i believe at the moment she is in the hospital getting treatment and she is recovering. thank you for your concern about layla's. she was the, the elderly lady he was kicked in the face. turkey has taken on a big row in the war in syria. what kentucky honestly do to help syrians or the use of a said, explained how many years that turkey has hosted and hosted. well, so in refugees in turkey and then one more thing is really important. i'm going to put this to you, a man. why can't turkey do something more practical, make a public works project where people can actually boost their lives. so this economic problem that is not just impacting turkey, but many countries around the world. maybe the focus should be on the economic
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issue rather than on the syrians over let me to show you something. i know you know this already, but i want to show this to you because i think it's really important to have a look at this. the number of refugees in turkey, about 3600000, the number of refugees being hosted in other places around the world. you can see how generous toki is with hosting refugees. 3.6000000 refugees or syrians in turkey, 84000000 turkish people. so that is lily t than but against a tiny minority seems misplaced. i'm a how about a different economic approach? wouldn't that be more productive than blaming refugees? so we have to say clearly that it's not the took the government policy to blame the fee, geez, but there took a position and expedition the, the left is political parties, which is where we interesting all the cost of what left is called capacity defense,
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refugees and right, being against them in to get the opposite right. being a defending refugee and enough to support his party in turkey. and some squint that small parties, they have mainly to cough and to argument against to government, the economy and the 2nd migration in their, intertwined with each other. so they are much hole if they can push on the migration and economy cause that they can win the election. and therefore, it took us government is in a different position and trying to make arguments in an area wage, not the most best fit, the because it's a white ring the poppy. and here we have also to say that what can to do, i think, point of economical support from the european union, from international and from the united states of america. other countries are still not enough and good to manage to do from new opinions to took your we're not head into symptoms increasing into that. that only expand ok or i guess
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this is just just just gimme just a tiny pause end on something use of can you expand on just a moment just the reason i'm doing this is because we started with an or for story about letting them know how much, i want to close his story that maybe gives us a little bit more hope about a syrian refugee in turkey. this is ahmed story homage was doing an interview in the street and a lot of turkish people gathered around him and started bullying him. this is where i'm going to show you this video. first of all, let's have a look. i let the magicks, let him know to me only let out your lady. uh, she saw yellow a bunch under the colonial. if you had been bought a lot of the you from the thing is in bottom of the your sins, it hasn't been earned. and g, o, u d as in larry o n g one, ali obama little to comment. oh, hold. huntington prisoner meant oakland. just want to play kendall meeting seat of a bundle. are you a turkish businessman saw that video,
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he was so upset by that. he decided that he was going to support and pay our meds, tuition fees. we spent to him a few hours ago, and this is what he said about the attacks and assaults on syrian refugees in cattle. he was much more positive. let's have a luck to call go there to julia to devotee 1000000 love. just so he had a mooted year ish ah, your shock her bottom mama understood, knew the other 2 kidney up the he should be the youngsters church here there. yup. on to the smaller studio, the move to the dish, millennial of love, just in legal records in there to get her boot, perhaps to look the bucket of today. sure, he should be shaking their merger, the consequent to be more amenable. mamma de tom, tennessee moved editor studio removed editor should call gala teacher sharma. i
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know her mama, on immunization the are some of the the only issue in which i was from a village. so let me show you on instagram. this is severe. who is now sponsoring ahmed, he was bullied in the street who left school because of racism. they are working side by side a turkish parson, and a young syrian man at working together in turkey. maybe that is a positive way to end this. show yourself. thank you. i will come back to that fool in the future, show a mer, appreciate you. and sarah as well. thank you for all of your thoughts and your comments on youtube. that wraps up i show for today. thanks for watching. i see next time they get. ah ah, did the young virtuosos racing constables and dominating international competition?
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