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so called non western migrants are being moved out of city blocks. and some syrian asylum seekers are fighting orders to deport them. what are the criticisms justified? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much am jerome? did marks government is being criticized for its plans to eradicate disadvantage neighborhoods. a set of laws, controversially, called the ghetto package, was introduced in 2018. it aimed to transform areas with high rates of crime and unemployment for rights groups say immigrant communities are being unfairly singled out. any area with more than 50 percent of so called non westerners can be put on this list. that's defined as people from outside europe,
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the u. s. canada australia and new zealand. and any dane, with one foreign parent children above the age of one must spend 25 hours a week to learn the danish language and national values away from their families. otherwise, social welfare payments will be cut. the government says these measures will help to integrate foreigners, but the you win and rights group say the policies are racist. some are suing the government, saying the rules violate danish and european laws will bring in our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report from paul reese in copenhagen mohammed as lamb is a danish citizen. he came to copenhagen from pakistan as a 7 year old. his children were born here in the meal. the parking district. but the atlanta family have been disconnected from their fellow danes, labeled by their own government as it leslie, non western, if you are living in the western western county the, than you have the full,
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right. and if you lived in the non western country, then you don't have the same right. and he said, very told what to think about. we can make some kind of law in denmark, in my country, it be safe for all send our kids and our generation to live in denmark, in the, in the future. you know, the separation of citizens into western and non western is part of a raft of measures. the government is brought in to abolish so called ghettos by the year 2030 by then every district in the country must have a population that is at least 50 percent weston. after that, non westerners may only make up 30 percent of the inhabitants. 80 percent of mil to park and residents are from an immigrant background. the danish government can't make people leave areas like milner park and purely on the basis of ethnicity. what it can do is force the housing to be sold off to private investors who then raise the rents. the idea is that mainly people of western extraction assumed to be more
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wealthy, will then be able to move back in my can. fellate fits uneasily into that western profile, but will also lose her home to more affluent tenants. they are gentrifying a whole neighbourhood, and in many other patterns fastened in mach, they are actually right now demolishing, thus, like right, so it sat like papa, how saying that is being violated right now. human rights lawyers are now challenging the policies known collectively as the ghetto packet. i'll leave it for that dear in sca it's basing integration policy on social conditions and crime rates is valid, but we object to removing people from their homes based on ethnicity. there has been positive developments in these residential areas, but the measures against them got more and more intense company omega. the government declined our requests for an interview or a statement, but as it pushes ahead with the controversial ghetto laws. many here in milner paul can wait anxiously to see of their voices will count for anything in the country where they were born or coal home poll, reese al jazeera,
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copenhagen. denmark has been tightening its rules for immigrants and asylum seekers . the government revoked resident permits for hundreds of syrian refugees from damascus, saying the city is now safe to return to rights groups condemned the move and many refugees have sense one their appeal to stay. then mark is also and talked with lawanda to set up an asylum reception center there, similar to what the u. k has done in december as former immigration minister was convicted and jailed for 2 months for ordering. asylum seeking couples to be separated. inger story berg has now started a new political party to defend what she calls danish values. the. all right, let's go and bring in our guests. both are joining us from copenhagen, mom at us. lamb is the chairman of the me on the parking residence association. and for them to see is co founder of almon won't stand an organization campaigning against the so called ghetto laws. a warm welcome to you both and thanks so much
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for joining us today on inside story mohammed, let me start with you 1st. today, you are a danish citizen. i want to ask you 1st, if you ever thought something like this would happen in denmark, and how do you feel that people in denmark are being labeled western or non western . now, it's very difficult to to see in my country in denmark making some kind of laws that you are divine, dividing people into brooks once one group is the people who lives born in the western countries. and those were born in the non western countries and all, most of the kids who are born in denmark, the same category that the parents who are born in the non
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best countries is too terrible to think about. i couldn't imagine in my dream because i born in i lived in denver since i was 7. i couldn't imagine it in my dream. my country denmark, which makes us kind of goes against a human being, is more more to see. it's not our democracy is so more, more look like apartheid. we have known from the south africa mom to tell you got to take about mohammed. let me also ask you, how is this impacting you, your family and your community in me on their parking? what kind of effective that have it all, most of all of us who is living in europe, we are wondering, we have to go, oh them, we have to be several kids have to move to school like this. and the home we are
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living and have left for the many, many decades. there's a lot of memories for all serves as a family or kids who are born go up here. so it's terrible to think about as someone want to remove it from, from our hopes because they don't to, don't want us to live there that we live because our, because our color and our religion and because they don't, don't, don't going to accept us as a danish doesn't matter, we have lived here for a day case study got to figure out for how many neighborhoods have been designated as ghetto areas so far. and from your perspective, how is this impacting the residence of those neighborhoods? because there are many critics of these laws that are saying this is tearing immigrant communities apart. so there are 16 neighborhoods that are affected by the
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so called get to the development plans. so in these neighborhoods we see the development plans include demolition and forced evacuation of residents and the sale of some of the public housing in these neighborhoods. and fatima, you know, many rights groups are saying that that immigrant communities are being unfairly singled out and that these policies are racist from your perspective. are these policies racist? yes, i believe they are. these policies are race or using racism and discrimination to attack public housing and to attack tenants. right. so the motivation behind behind them is to work for the interest of investors, of private investors who are gentrifying large cities in denver. but racism is a big part of these policies, and without the racist stigmatization of stigmatization of these neighborhoods,
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it would be impossible to get these last pat. laws passed into parliament, muhammad, you know, the government, their perspective, they're saying that they aim to transform areas with high rates of crime and unemployment. and they also say that these, these measures, these new laws will help to integrate foreigners. what's your response? when you hear that trust whole is started through the correct what they are saying because the crime is not so high as, as the saying in this areas, or most in hor, denmark of the crime is going don't a so so we can see the. ready arguments is treading on or an us in this an already or years on the other areas in denmark. this is certainly not correct. the most of it we have seen for the last decade,
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it is before 6 month or one year before we are going to have a adoption in denmark. so is the competition between the parties and the politicians. then who can say the worst things against the foreign nurse, the immigrants, the muslims, and those who can say the voice things they get more see in the parliament. and this is the issue going on for the, for, from the take a note. so to all of those things, the a saying, this is not correct. a salt my saw you nodding along to some of them. ahmed was saying, there, did you want to jump in? did you have a reaction to, to his remarks? this laws, if they continued going without being stopped. and they said that very dangerous presidents, because this way you can take away any number of human rights of basic rights in society, from certain groups, by just using these criteria, for example,
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than and one western gram criteria that has played a big part in passing this law, so this is very dangerous and it, it worries me and it creates a lot of fear and anxiety in immigrants and brown working class neighborhoods and work for them. um, you know, the government is saying that the current tenants in these neighborhoods that they are going to be offered alternative accommodation, but that there's not going to be any control over its location, quality or cost that's. that's what i understand from critics of the laws of what's gonna happen to those who refuse to leave. so in danish law, you can contest an eviction, and you can go to court. and this is what some of the residents are doing. they go to court, to fight against this, this eviction is stating that this is a discriminatory law until now we haven't had success into being sports. so residents are taking this higher and higher up,
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hopefully going to the european human rights commission. a mom at, you know, there's another aspect to this story right now. the fact that the danish government decided to take in ukrainian refugees fleeing the war in ukraine and that a majority of denmark, parliament voted to amend the these, these ghetto laws to make exceptions, to exempt ukrainians from these housing restrictions. what does that say to you? because there are many critics that are saying that this proves that these housing laws are discriminatory, or what do you say? this is a one more proof to how the lowest good lawmakers said making the law in denmark, friends, and value come from the country. that's part of the word or which really religion you have of it or you have this major proof on, on the last that meeting of which be groups are you going to take with
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you a lot? so i came, it was my servicing in the conference. i came with this proposal proposal and that maybe they can think about this no, once again, then we can, we can have, you can be we can still live in our homes in the future. but the, the really change the posted off the lo so. so this is a major proof of hold. the good thing is, is going going on in denmark, this day's inn in las vegas for them. i want to ask you about this development to i've read that residence in these areas that have been designated as ghettos that they are. are some of them, at least, are suing the danish government for racial discrimination. from your perspective, how strong of a case do they have especially considering this exemption to the ghetto laws that
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was made for ukrainian refugees? yeah. and so it heard from experts in discrimination and danish law saying that the residents have a very strong case. and so we are very hopeful, however, that they know sports done have a good track record of challenging the parliament. and so we're hoping for the best and, but we think that we might have to take that case higher up in order to, to challenge in east los and especially what we'd seen went with ukrainian rusty, geez, and the way that politicians have talked about them and that some of the exemptions that have been given to them. and i think that it does strengthen the case. and because it shows very clearly that you got treated based on the color of your skin and fatima also this ghetto law. this was enacted by denmark's previous right wing government. why do you think it's now being enforced by the center left social
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democrats? are? are they trying to appeal to right when voters are they trying to shore up support from voters? they believe that they may lose to the right. why is it happening? well, in the social democratic party, it hasn't been social democratic for a long time. and thus it has been losing popularity and using racism to appeal to and to say that part of the population has been away. they used to to regain popularity because they are incapable of a fight thing for the danish low parents system and stuffing that tax from the right wing on the welfare system. so instead they are using discrimination and racism sinful to popularity and collect votes. basically, mama from your perspective, how much more hostile has denmark's policies toward refugees and asylum seekers and
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migrants become in recent years. it's difficult to say because we are going to have had that sion ready soon. so this competition i was talking about before death. i believe that will come again. and before i have a lot of families in denmark and youngsters say, done what this is our country here are we going to live? and our kids are going to grow up and dial again. other generations are going to do here. what no, i'm hearing from lot of youngsters say at the wondering if it would be safe for them to leave all the kids to grow up in denmark and generation to oh, who to, to live in safely in denmark. so no p for people are wandering at, know we have this was our politician make this kind of know what will be the next
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and the next the again so lot of lot of for youngster, i'm not of families are afraid to to think about oh, i'm thinking maybe to, to, to move to another place and leave denmark fatima. let me ask you this when it comes to these ghetto laws, what kind of criteria has to be met in order for somebody to be deemed of non western origin. now, so the criteria is that both parents in originally comes or are born in a non western country. so a person can be born in denmark has been a citizenship and still be categorized as, as so called non western. so this shows that it is about ethnicity. it's not about it citizenship, it's not even about culture or anything. it's about ethnicity. and fatima, let me ask you, do you know how much public support this ghetto law may have?
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i mean of, from your perspective, from what you've seen there as the majority of the population do, do they support these actions or, or is the opinion split? i think it's difficult to tell what the public opinion about this matter is because the media hasn't been talking about it, or if the hasn't been informing the public about it properly. so when, when they talk about that they're fixing these areas and you see a lot of public supports support because people saying, well, there are problems and they're fixing it. but as soon as you mentioned that there is very good, she nonprofit public housing being demolished and being evicted from their homes, then you see people are critical of this the, of these methods. and so it's difficult to just tell what's the public opinion without a proper discussion and information about the issue. mama,
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i know you mentioned a little bit of this earlier but, but, but i just want to ask again in a different way. you know, how worried are you right now about about the future for, for you, for your family, for your children? what do you tell them when, when talking about all this, all we have this, this kind of talk a lot of time. and i'm still, i'm still telling my own kids and lot of other youngsters that then when we are living in denmark, then we are dennis, doesn't matter. you have a dentist, national di on like this. and this is our country a, here we have to live. and here have we have to work for the best of, of, of the country here. must stay. when did this kind of notes are coming and up. and then we are hearing the partition. then really is a attack our hearts and be,
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are trying to push also way. and i say you are not a part of the society. you are not a part of this country. so it, is it really it tech hearts when, when be all of the time is listening, reading and seeing all of this happening all the time. and so i think they're right. not youngster enough. families are wondering if it is that it will be possible safely for them to live here or for their kids to come and coming young generations. so it can be, it can be a difficult for denmark as a, as a country to, to have up people from off site in the future to come to denmark. if we are still having this kind of raise this nose in denmark,
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i fall to my in these laws that, that were pastor. there is also a requirement. the children are from the age of one half to spend at least 25 hours a week. and child care in order to receive mandatory training in, quote, unquote danish values. do we know how many children are undergoing this and, and also what kind of an impact is it having on them? i mean, is, is having a traumatizing effect on the children. actually, we don't know how many children are being subjected to this, and we don't have any numbers on this issue because nobody is collecting any numbers. this is the thing with the so called get to laws at some big experiments. it, but nobody is collecting any data, nobody is actually looking at what's happening in with the people who are affected by these laws. and this is a big problem that people's and that the government is intervening in people's lives without talking to them or looking at how this is affecting them. if
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ultimately let me just ask you my last question here. i want to talk for a moment about the term ghetto because this is a term that has severely negative connotations. the fact that the word ghetto was used in, in crafting these laws. how much does that stigmatize residence in these neighborhoods? yeah, i mean, denmark is the only country that you know us that uses turn ghetto, officially an official document in laws. and so this is very problematic and it's, it's signals due to minorities here in denmark, which direction policies and politics. and our market is going in and the public discourse is jolly. we see it very clearly going into direction. that's very worrying. creating a lot of fear and anxiety online are you're in denver. so the term has moved from the law now. and since the last election,
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but still the content of the law is the saying and the media still uses this word when talking about it. and the signal has already been sent out to people which kind of treatment they can expect, which kind of stigmatization and discrimination, or they're going to stay in this country based on their ethnicity. all right, well we have run out of time. we're going to have to leave the discussion there. thanks so much. all of our guests mohammed us long and full tma to see and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, algebra dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside stuart. you can also during the conversation on twitter, handle that insights from emergent room and the whole team here. uh huh. bye for now. ah
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